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Regular Meeting — 7th Floor — County -City Building
Monday, June 16, 2003 7:30 PM
I. CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL
II. PUBLIC HEARING
A. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
1. 2003-0602; 1324 East Wayne Street South; Build a gabled roof onto an
existing flat -roof garage.
2. 2003-0604; 509 Edgewater Drive; Remove modern landscape boxes and
install traditional front yard garden; replace and widen driveway; pave
part of back yard.
3. 2003-0605; 53117 Olive Road; Bury utility cable; replace rotten timbers;
rebuild window; replace broken back steps.
4. 2003-0606; 1344 East Wayne Street South; Build larger addition over
existing enclosed back stoop; reside house.
5. 2003-0609; 1335 East Wayne Street North; Build addition onto back of
house, including (a) convert North facing window into French doors and
build screened shed -roofed porch, (b) remove 2 windows and build shed
roofed addition & portico, (c) enlarge kitchen window into shed roofed bay.
6. 2003-0611; 1045 Riverside Drive; Rebuild deteriorated garage
B. HEARING OF VISITORS
III. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (May)
B. LEGAL REPORT
C. STAFF REPORTS: C. of A. Approvals; Correspondence; Guideline
Booklets; US 31 coordination meeting.
D. COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. River Bank Coordinating Committee.
2. Historic Districts Committee: Proofs of district books.
3. Southhold Awards Committee.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
1. Muessel—Drewery's Brewery Committee Report.
V. NEW BUSINESS
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS & MISCELLANEOUS MATTERS
VII. ADJOURNMENT
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: 06/03/2003
Application Number: 2003-0602
Property Location: 1324 East Wayne Street South, South Bend, IN
Property Owner: Donald and Renee Homing
Landmark or District Designation: East Wayne Local Historic District
Rating: Contributing/10
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
Erected in 1930, this Tudor Revival style home was designed by H.R. Stapp and built by the prolific South
Bend firm Whitcomb & Keller. Only three families have lived at this address: Henry D Hukill, a Bendix
Products Corporation employee, and his wife Mary (1930-1935); Will Welber, a Hungarian immigrant and
well-known merchandizing expert who also was very involved in local associations and his wife Ina Klineman
Welber; and the current owners, Donald and Ina Homing. Constructed solidly in red -brown brick, creamy cast
stone, stucco and timber rake trim, this house has asymmetrical massing, a steep gabled roof that flares near
the gutters, a gabled dormer and entranceway, stone and brick quoins and a double flue chimney elaborated
with decorative brickwork and twin ceramic chimney pots. These elements and other details besides give this
house its Tudor character. In addition, a two -car detached brick garage sits upon the property behind the
house, an arrangement typical of the East Wayne Local Historic District. Only a potion of the garage is visible
from the street. Currently, the garage has a flat roof with a soldier course and stone coping, two brown metal
(?) doors and three lighting lanterns.
Whitcomb & Keller constructed another house in the neighborhood at 301 Sunnyside with the same plan and
exterior details and materials with the exception of the slate roof. Notably, this residence also has a two -car
brick garage, but this structure is capped with a gabled roof.
APPLICATION ITEMS:
3 Sheets of Project Description with diagrarhs of proposed front elevation, overhang, and roof plan
I Sheet of estimated project costs and materials
5 Sheets of photographs of house, garage, and property (in color)
RECOMMENDATION
The present owners, Donald and Renee Homing, propose to add a gabled roof and second -story storage area to
their garage. They have studied the exterior details and scale of their Tudor home and have chosen to include
many of these into the fagade and roof of the garage including the steep gabled and flared roof, stucco and
wood trim, brackets underneath the overhang, and a steel window to match the windows of the house. With
the Homing's attention to the historic features of their residence and the fact that a matching house in the same
neighborhood has a garage with a gabled roof, staff believes this well -studied addition will only add to the
attractiveness and value of the property while following the character of the original structure. Staffgladly
recommends approval for this project.
In the East Wayne district, many of the properties have gabled roofed garages. For the sake of a record of this
idiosyncrasy, the owners and the Commission may want to note the more unusual character of this flat -roof
garage in some form of documentation (ie. archived photos or drawings).
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: 06/04/2003
Application Number: 2003-0604
Property Location: .509 Edgewater Drive, South Bend, IN
Property Owner: Dave Kimble
Landmark or District Designation:
Rating: Contributing/10
Edgewater Place Local Historic District
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
Built in 1924 by the firm Whitcomb & Keller, for Roy W. Fries, a manager for the furniture store, Sailor
Brothers, and his wife, Marie Fries; this residence is apart of the Edgewater neighborhood. The residence sits
on a built up lot overlook the St. Joseph River. The home's and the neighborhood's connection to the river,
one of South Bend's most important natural, cultural, and economic resources, reflects the 1920s trend in
American housing construction and taste for more naturalistic settings for single-family homes outside of and
yet still close to the downtown shopping and commercial districts.
APPLICATION ITEMS:
I Letter with proposed project summaries
I Site plan of proposed driveway re -pavement, includes residence and garages
I Site plan of proposed brick patio
I Sheet with materials specifications and information on "Oxford Tumbled" brick paver patio
I Landscape Plan
RECOMMENDATION
I. Landscaping. To start with, the landscaping, the owner, Dave Kimble, proposes to remove the existing
timber flowerbox and replace this 1980s landscape element with a new garden layout. Many of the
shrubbery and flowering bushes included in this garden plan have historic value contiguous with the date
of the home. Hick's yews (dwarfs) were used in plantings in the 1920s and several varieties of lilacs and
rhododendrons entered the landscape within decades prior to the construction of the residence (From "The
Historic Plant Compendium," The Traditional Garden, 265, 268, 269). Currently, the flowerbox looks
weedy and empty. The addition of flowering plantings, ground covers, and other living materials allowed
to mature over time will add to the attractiveness of the home. The flowerbox is not original to the
property, nor is it of historic importance to the period of this home's significance, the 1920s. A regrade
that does not affect the slope of the yard will improve the drainage of water away from the house and will
protect the house's foundations and wall structure. I
Staff recommends approval of.
1. The removal of modern timber flower box.
.2. The regrade of the flowerbed (as long as it does not adversely affect the raised nature of the
front yard).
3. The garden plan (as long as the majority of the area occupied by it will contain living
material and not just mulch, rocks, or a similar material).
II. Driveway. Mr. Kimble h o requested approval for the repavi�dlld expansion of the driveway
between his home and 517 Edgewater Drive. The current driveway does have many cracks and deep
depressions. It is also imprinted with an interesting square grid pattern, which the owner may choose to
retain in the repaving. However, at this time, staff is unable to recommend approval for the
proposed changes to the driveway.
First, the sizable amount of paving planned for the driveway and the brick paver patio may actually
violate South Bend building code. Secondly, the expansion of the driveway changes the historic and
characteristic view of the home and the property from the street, one that is characterized by a single
width, narrow drive leading to rear the garages. Thirdly, as the owner has found that the modern flower
box is too narrow for his garden plan, the proposed driveway leaves too little space for future foundation
plantings.
Staff would recommend approval if the current proposal pushed the beginning of the tapering of
the driveway to the just behind the steps on the side of the house (see suggested plan). This change
would reduce the amount of added pavement and then not violate code, retain the historic sight lines of
the narrow driveway as viewed from the street, and allow for future plantings that could conceal the rear
pavement. Due to the existence of the rear concrete pad and the tightness between the garages and the
houses, staff understands the possible desires of the owners to have more space for both families' cars to
turn around and/or pass each other.
III. Patio. Lastly, Mr. Kimble proposes to lay a 15' by 15' brick paver patio in his back yard. The
proposed material is not connected to the period of historic significance for this residence and is purely
modern. The patio is not a typical feature of 1920s landscaping design, nor lifestyle. The paver stones
will however compliment the natural paint color chosen by the owners for the exterior of their home. See
material specs for photo. It will be inconspicuous from the street and will not greatly change the historic
character of the home, its scale, and relationship to the lot. Staff would first recommend the application
of grass seed for shaded lawns, but as this is not the proposed plan, staff recommends approval of the
patio at the stated or smaller dimensions as long as the amount of paving does not violate code.
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Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County
125 S. Lafayette Blvd.
South Bend, IN
46601
Application for Certificate of Appropriateness
For 509 Edgewater Drive
To Whom It May Concern: - -- - --
I am applying for a certificate of appropriateness to perform the following
improvements to my home.
Drivewav: The existing driveway is broken up and has a depression in the
middle, which collects large amounts of water. I am proposing to remove the existing
driveway from the sidewalk back to approximately 5' in front of the two garages. I will
replace the driveway with fiberglass reinforced concrete (4000psi), which will also be
reinforced with wire mesh. The footprint of the new drive way will increase in width,
leaving 2'-0" next to 509 Edgewater and 517 Edgewater.
Landscaping: The current landscaping consists of a flowerbox constructed of
landscape timbers. My plan is to remove the landscape timbers and topsoil to leave a 2"
slope away from the house. I would then follow the enclosed landscaping plan for
replanting. The quantities of plants will be reduced, but the types of plants will remain
the same, with the exception of the Canadian hemlock, which would be replaced with
Lilac's. The Hicks Yew's will be dwarfs only.
Patio: The current yard plan consists of spotty grass due to large shaded areas in
the back yard. My plan is to remove the topsoil and grass in an area approximately 16%
0" x 16'-0" and install Paverlock `Oxford Tumbled' paving brick. The footprint would
be according to the enclosed plan.
If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at (574) 532-
2929. Thank you.
Sincefilm
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Application
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Certificate of Appropriateness
Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & SL Joseph County
125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601
Mailing Address: County -City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601
.Phone: 574-235-9-98 • Fax: 574-235-9578 • Email: historic'@micl- an .org
Website: http-.//communitymichiana.org/historic/
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Past Reviews: ❑ YES (Date ofLrst Review)
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❑ National Landmark National Register District (Name)
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STAFF REPORT -
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: 06/05/03
Application Number: 2003-0605
Property Location: 53117 Olive Road — Original German School
Property Owner: Diane Wrobel-Illes & John Illes
Landmark or District Designation: Local Landmark
Rating: Significant
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
Built or remodeled circa 1890, the original structure was once used as a schoolhouse for German Township
children. The schoolmaster resided in the house next door. The original two -room brick schoolhouse featured
Greek revival elements and detailing, including a gabled peak on the front fagade with narrow arched
windows, hand -carved dentil moldings on the entryway, plain frieze, wide eaves, and boxed cornice. Large
windows lit the interior prior to electric lighting. The sturdy materials and detailing used for the schoolhouse
reflect the community's high -regard for the education of their children. The original schoolhouse underwent
changes in 1950 as it was reconfigured as a residence before the structure obtained Landmark status. The
1950s renovations are of historic note as well. Glass block windows, enclosed rooms, and the fishpond in the
kitchen reflect that distinctive architectural era.
APPLICATION ITEMS:
1 Letter of request
1 Drawing of brick stoop (hopefully)
RECOMMENDATION
Regarding the repair of the south side fascia and soffit, the owners have attempted to find an exact match of
the existing lumber, but have not. Unless one knows where lumber of the existing dimensions can be found,
approval should be granted for the repair of this element of the residence. Likewise, the repair of the window,
as it is an in-kind repair should also be granted.
The owners removed the deteriorating brick steps prior to the approval of landmark status for safety concerns.
They would like to replace the steps with a half round configuration in brick. Staff recommends approval per
the consultation of Joann Sporleder, Architectural Historian, regarding typical brick stoops of Greek Revivals
and/or 1950s residences.
Staff agrees that the burial of the power lines connected to the house will increase its handsomeness when
from viewed from the street. If done in a non -intrusive manner, the removal of the power lines will also return
some of the structure's early historical character as the school house most likely did not have electricity to
light the interior. Staff recommends approval.
June 1, 2003
Historic Preservation Commission
Of South Bend & St. Joseph County
County -City Building
227 West Jefferson Blvd.
South Bend, IN 46601-1830
RE: Request for Certificate of Approval at 53117 Olive Rd. — Original German School
Landmark
Dear Commission Members:
We are requesting a Certificate of Approval be granted to us for the following necessary
work:
The south side fascia of the house, and soffit have been damaged by weather and birds. I
have purchased the lumber necessary for the repair. The lumber will be primed and
painted to match the same as existing, however, a seam will be necessary, due to the fact,
that the size we need in length and width, as one piece, is no longer available. We have
purchased the closest match, to the original, as possible within our means.
The electric power line to our house is in the way of this repair. This power line is
unsightly and distracting, (as are the power lines in front of the house), and truly takes
away from this prominent perspective of the house on the street side and the south side.
We have looked into the cost of burying the cable, from the utility pole to our house, and
the cost could range from $1700 - $2000. I ask the commission for help in ways to locate
fmancing for this project.
Also, the window on the southwest corner needs repair. It will need to be rebuilt and
wood may need to be replaced around or at the bottom of the window. This will be done
with materials of the same or equal in strength and durability.
Last of all, on the north side of the house, I removed the brick steps to the back door
entry last year, because they were crumbling beyond repair and dangerous. I wish to
rebuild the steps, and we seek the expertise of Joanna Sporleder for appropriate design.
Sincerely, n n
Diane Wrobel-Illes & John S. Illes
Historic Preservation Board Member and Spouse
STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date:
Application Number:
Property Location:
June 11, 2003
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1344 East Wayne Street South, South Bend, IN
Property Owner: Rita & Kevin Wilson
Landmark or District Designation: East Wayne Street Local Historic District
Rating:
C-9
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
This is a highly interesting house, built in a vernacular cross -gable style with Colonial Revival elements
and a strong influence of the Picturesque and Romantic Movement. It is one of the few houses in the
East Wayne Street district for which the architect is unknown (at least to us). Built in 1925, it was
vacant for a year before Ruth and Anton Peterson bought it is 1927. Ruth was a 1918 graduate of the
Memorial Hospital School of Nursing. She was a director of the County Nurses' Register, active in the
Red Cross, affiliates with the Order of the Eastern Star, and the Order of Amaranth. Anton Peterson,
born February 20, 1882, was president of Peterson Battery and Ignition Co., Inc., with offices at 321-
325 Lafayette. He was a member of St. Joe Lodge 45, F. & A.M., Avalon grotto 48, M.O.V.P.E.R., the
Crusader Lodge 14, Knights of Pythias, and the Modern Woodmen of America.
In 1942, Ruth Peterson, then a widow, sold the house to Viviane and Morton Keeger Jr. Seven
years later the Keegers sold it to the Maud and Fred Brennan, who, in turn, sold two years later to
Caroline and Albert Fehgenfeld, who sold the following year to Janet and Guy McMichael Jr. It was
during this period of rapid transfer and re -transfer of the house from one owner to the next that the
screened back porch with the shed roof was tacked onto the back, and the aluminum siding and
attenuated ornamental (?) shutters were added.
The McMichaels lived there fifteen years. Janet McMichael, born Janet Budd in 1938, was
active in the community and neighborhood for many years. Guy McMichael was a partner of the law
firm of Voor, Jackson, Grant, & McMichael, served as a deputy prosecutor from 1938 to 1942, and was
a Notre Dame Law Professor for 40 years.
In 1966 Kathleen and Sterling K. Stenerson purchased this house from the McMichaels, and
sold it three years later to Judith and Jerome Kearns. Mr. Kearns was then vice president of the St.
Joseph Bank and Trust Co.
Ten years later, in 1976, Judith and Robert M. Johnstone purchased the house. We know little
about them except that Mr. Johnstone was a salesman for White Farm Equipment. They lived here 16
years, until 1992, when they sold to Karon and Ernst Iseli, who sold three years later to the present
owners, Rita and Kevin Wilson.
APPLICATION ITEMS:
1. Build 8 -foot deep by 11 -foot wide addition to the back of the house, where the present 4 -foot
by eight -foot back entry now is, for expanding the kitchen. Two alternative plans for this
have been provided, one of which retains and continues the existing roofline, and one of
which flattens out the slope of the roof above the proposed addition.
2. Remove existing aluminum siding and replace with vinyl siding on entire house.
RECOMMENDATION
The character defining features of this lovely house, which are well displayed in the photographs
submitted by Mr. Van Overburghe, are its front and cross gables with boxed eaves, and the absolutely
regular placement of its windows, which are a vernacular interpretation of the Greek Revival style. The
size, number of windows reflects the picturesque romantic style so admired by fans of Thomas Kinkade
paintings. While we are not able to confirm the rumor that this house may have been designed by South
Bend Mayor Freyermouth, (Architecture firm of Freyermouth and Maurer), we can say that it is a
characteristic of Freyermouth's buildings that they typically had a lot of windows, and a lot of interior
light, as this house obviously does.
The present kitchen requires anyone passing onto the screened porch or out the back door to
squeeze between the oven and the refrigerator to get onto and through the enclosed back stoop. The
proposed addition, encompassing and expanding the enclosed stoop, incorporates it into an expanded
kitchen. The upstairs door and laundry porch would be lost, which is unfortunate, but acceptable. The
existing metal railing and storm door are non-contributing additions.
Option #1, which continues the line of the side gable, including the boxed eave return, is a very
nice design, and does an excellent job of continuing the original romantic design style, except for the
relatively large expanse of blank wall, unbroken by any additional window, at the side back.
Option #2 would create a significantly larger area of blank, windowless wall, and would not
continue the line of the side gable. On the other hand, it would be largely invisible from the front of the
house and from the neighbors. Staff would not recommend approval of Option #2 unless it could be
amended by the inclusion of windows consistent in design with the existing windows in the house.
Replacing aluminum siding with vinyl is essentially an in-kind replacement, and should be
approved. Additionally, I understand from Mr. Van Overburghe that there may be a possibility of
revealing some original window detail presently covered. This should also be approved. The
"ornamental" shutters are not a character defining feature of the house, so when the siding is replaced,
the owners should not be required to retain the shutters unless they wish to.
In summary: Staff recommends (1) approval of the proposed back addition, option one, in
Mr. Van Overburghe's drawings, which expands the back of the house and extends the side gable
down to the first story in back as it is in the front of the house, with the specification (a) that the
design may be altered, at the owner's option, by the addition of a window on the side, and (b) that
one of the existing exterior back doors be reused, and the other two retained, clearly labeled, in
some appropriate storage place.
(2) approval of the proposed siding, provided that the new siding have a reveal that
matches as closely as possible either the existing reveal, or the reveal of the original wood siding,
and
(3) approval of whatever restoration of original window detail the owners find convenient
and feasible in the course of residing.
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Name of PropertyOwner{s}:(.arcs- Kevin and Rita Wilson
Address of Property Owner: 1344 East Wayne Street
Contraetar{s).Name: Gary .Van Overberghe .
Contract CompanyNnme- Van Overberghe Builders•, Inc.-
CaatrattarAddress: 53922 olive Road City: South Bend
Contractor's Phone No: 574-289-0341 - Owner's Phone No: 574-234-:-9975
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STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: 06/09/04
Application Number: 2003-0609
Property Location: 1335 East Wayne Street North, South Bend, IN
Property Owner: Tom & Peggy Jones
Landmark or District Designation: East Wayne Street Local Historic District
Rating: Contributing/ 9
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
This 1928 Colonial Revival home was designed by H.R. Stapp for the real estate firm Whitcomb &
Keller's Sunnymede development. The Jones' red brick residence was built on an ample, wedge-shaped
lot and a half in this planned neighborhood. The property now contains many lovely mature trees
desired by the developers for this pastoral development. In the early decades of the 20t' century,
architects and developers nostalgically returned to many early American home types and styles
(Colonial especially) in the attempt to obtain a more comfortable American lifestyle for the residents.
The Jones' residence is connected to this revival trend as Stapp pulled many design elements from the
Georgian Colonial style. These include a brick exterior common among Southern Georgian colonials, a
symmetrical fagade with a porch -less entryway framed by pilasters and a broken pediment with a
decorative urn motif (a rare Georgian design) and dentil work, flat -arches and cut stone keystones over
all the house's windows and pedimented second story windows (dormer -like) which cut through the
plain entablature and roofline. Two types of shutters can also be found on the exterior of the residence:
slated and a larger paneled type. The original owner, David A. Bickel, was a physician who specialized
in obstetrics. His wife, Mary, raised four children in this house and lived in it until 1973.
APPLICATION ITEMS:
1 Letter including "Description of Proposed Work" ** Work will also include the demolition a portion
of the current cement patio and the removal of the timber landscape boxes.
1 Mortgage Survey
6 Sheets of Photographs (1 on each sheet)
1 Oversized Sheet of Sketched Blueprints (Site Plan, Floor Plan, North and West Elevations)
RECOMMENDATION
The proposed plan calls for the removal of all the rear first story windows, the awning over the back
door, the black metal back door, the metal railing near the back door, timber landscaping boxes, and a
portion of the existing concrete patio to pour foundations for the additions. The architect, Bill Lamie,
also requests approval of the addition of French doors leading out of the dining room into a proposed
screened -in porch, an entry portico with an expanded rear entry hallway, and a bay window to replace
the rear kitchen window. The screened -in porch, entry portico and addition, and bay will all have shed
roofs. Some of the brick exterior will be removed to make way for the new bay window, French door
and entryway hallway. The flat arches and keystones will be covered or removed to make way for the
new rooflines and openings.
Staff reviewed a few guidelines to determine its recommendation for this project: the inconspicuousness
of the proposal "when viewed from a public way" and the compatibility of the project to the historic
character of the site and the neighborhood. Regarding the first guideline, the proposed project is indeed
not viewable from East Wayne Street North, but would be quite prominent to the neighbors on both
sides of the Jones' residence. From a historic preservation standpoint, the second guideline of historic
compatibility is more important in this case and more complicated to access.
The design of the additions is lovely in itself. It has a layering of rooflines as seen from the west
elevation and a rhythm created by the proportional windows in the screen porch and the entry addition.
The proposed porch and portico makes use of the wood pilasters from the front entry as a reference of
the home's Georgian character. Yet, the pilasters are not the only character defining elements of this
home.
The district guidelines ask owners to seek actual historic evidence from the original status of their own
homes when envisioning changes. Instead, many original, defining elements will be removed, covered
or distorted by this addition: the brick flat -arched framed windows, the cut stone keystones, the stone
lintels, and over half of the rear exterior brick structure. The addition sacrifices the stately arrangement
of the rear two-story gabled extension. The visually weaker, less steep roofline of the addition's shed
roofs challenges the residence's rear verticality. The roofline and the additions also change the scale
and relationship of this rather compact and rectangular structure to its lot by extending the home in a
more horizontal and inharmonious manner. It also creates a more formal rear entry that is out of
character with the typical, more functional back entrances of this development. The addition employs
an incongruous roofline slope, window types, and wood construction. It adds a structure of materials of
lesser quality (wood rather than brick) and hides much of the original brick as previously stated.
Furthermore, the plan seeks to add elements that are neither from the Georgian Colonial style nor the
Colonial Revival style connected to this home. Although the architect has argued for the shed roof as a
reference to pent -roofed Georgian Colonials from the middle colonies (Pennsylvania), this is a stretch.
The shed roofs are a design necessity to retain the second -story windows or a comfortable room height
in the additions. Colonials from the middle colonies tended to be of stone materials and the pent roofs
did not project so far beyond the structure as to take on the character of a lean-to. Sun porches are a
common feature among Colonial Revival houses. They tended to have flat roofs, simple yet elegant
detailing and were situated as symmetrical wings off the main block of the home. The French doors and
the bay window, though they are pleasing design elements,.are not in keeping with the period of historic
significance for this residence and its Colonial Revival style. Though this plan does well to seek
Colonial references, they are off the mark concerning this home's character.
Concerning the specific proposals:
Staff recommends approval of the removal of the:
1.) Currently rusty metal railing,
2.) Weather beaten and mossy back awning,
Both are not original to the home and are not connected to the home's period of historic significance.
3.) Modern timber landscape boxes,
4.) And cement patio.
Though not in the proposal, the project would also remove the modern timber landscape boxes and a
portion of the cement patio as seen in the photos. The flower boxes are of no historic significance to the
residence. The patio has an interesting grid pattern that would be easily replicated.
Staff cannot recommend approval of the demolition of the brickwork, flat -arches, stone keystones,
and stone lintels surrounding the:
1.) Existing north and west Dining Room windows,
2.) North Kitchen window,
3.) North window adjacent to the back door,
4.) And the back door.
The windows with their decorative elements are key features of the home's historic character. See
above paragraphs for more information. Staff generally recommends the reused of original materials
and elements in the proposed plan. However, this will not be possible under the current proposal due to
the wood frame construction of the addition and the use of different window types rather than
replacement windows.
Staff cannot not recommend the approval of the construction the following proposed additions.
1.) Screened porch with shed roof,
2.) Entry portico and addition with shed roof,
3.) French doors,
4.) And the bay window with shed roof,
Staff has no opinion regarding the asphalt roof. It does not appear to be original to the residence.
Staff would be more willing to send a favorable recommendation of a proposal that retained and
exposed more of the brick exterior and more of the brick detailing (arch, lintel, and keystone) on the rear
of the Jones' residence. Staff would be willing to recommend approval of a proposal that included some
window changes (French doors, bays) if changes to the rear profile of the house were not so dramatic
and if the brick detailing were retained. Staff applauds the use of the pilasters as a design element and
suggests the design of a less intrusive "out -door room" that employs the pilasters.
Application
—FOR—
Certificate of Appropriateness
Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend do SL Joseph County
125 S. Lafayette Blvd., South Bend, Indiana 46601
Mailing Address: County City Building, South Bend, Indiana 46601
Phone: 574-235-9798 * Fax: 574-235-9578 • "Email: historicOnidhiana.org
Website: http://communitymichiana.org/historic/
A Certified Local Govenunent
OFFICE USE ONLY >>>>2-> DO NOT COMPLETE ANY MIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX>: »> OFFICE USE ONLY
Date Received.7�
p7J Application Number 2_0 3 0(p O9
Past Reviews: [3 YES (oatroftnst Rergew)
Staff Approval authorized by:
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Historic Commission Review Date: ilio �1�1 f}
Local Landmark Local Historic District (Name) rAsr \tt AYH5
National Landmark National Register District Wame)
Certificate of Appropriateness:
Denied [ Tabled 0 Sent To Committee ❑ Approved and Issued
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Address of Property for proposed work:33,E EAS t' V%1�/nf% C-�+r� `��`�
Street Number and Street Name
Name of Property Owner(s): (Please Print) _TIM AhA 1P14-4 Y -1 a n es
Address of Property Owner(s): �?-�' -ar AS"f''V�%Mn 2'►�- ty"�h
Contractor(s) Name:
Contract Company Name:
Contractor Address:
City! Phone:
Current Use of Building: S t�{ r'Ar l
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Type of Building Construction: W rtA Fv-Ame, ^ El,-,rie k
(Wood Frame — Brick — Stone — Steil — Concrete — Other)
Proposed Work: ❑ In-kind ❑ Landscape 1a New f—I Replacement (not in-kind) % Demolition
(mon than one tax may be checked) (f t
Description of Proposed Work: 0& ARAe- P� 4 L-f-
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and/or
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— APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE —
ARCHITECTURE
DESIGN GROUP
June 6, 2003
Karen Hammond -Nash, Director
Historic Preservation Commission
of South Bend and St. Joseph County
125 South Lafayette Blvd.
South Bend, IN 46601
RE: Jones Residence
1335 East Wayne Street North
South Bend, IN 46615
Dear Karen:
Please allow this letter to act as the "Description of Proposed Work" at this site. Our
design is based on our identification of this colonial house style as Georgian.
Proposed Demolition Work:
1. Remove the existing metal awning above the north rear entry door.
2. Remove the existing windows in both the north Dining and Kitchen (See Floor
Plan — These openings will be replaced with a pair of French -style doors and a
bay window respectively).
3. Remove the existing north rear entry door and two adjacent windows (Dining
and %Z Bath) where new Portico/Entry addition attaches.
4. Remove the existing metal railing at rear north entry.
5. Remove the existing asphalt shingles in their entirety from house down to
existing decking.
Proposed Construction Work:
1. Add Screened Porch (12x12) and Entry Portico (10x12); Additions will be
wood frame with painted wood wall panels and 4" exposure lap siding — paint
color will match existing house trim; Wood trim detailing will compliment the
existing trim; Wood columns will compliment the existing pilasters from the
broken pediment at the front of the house (See photographs).
2. Add shed roof (Design for the additions is meant to be reminiscent of the pent
roof which was a typical middle -colonies feature); New roof shingles will be
25 -year asphalt laminated type; Eave will transition into architrave which is
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supported by the columns; Gutters will be avoided if possible, but will match
the existing half -round type.
3. Add new wood entry door/side-lite and wood casement window in new north
Entry.
4. Add new wood double -hung bay window in Kitchen north window; increase
window opening to allow for an 18" high bench set.
Please contact me if you have any questions regarding these alterations.
Thank you very much for your assistance with this project. We are very excited
about this project and feel strongly that the architectural alterations will enhance the
historic character of the home.
Kindest regards,
ARCHITECTURE DESIGN GROUP, INC.
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STAFF REPORT
CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
Date: June 11, 2003
Application Number: 2003-0611
Property Location: 1045 Riverside Drive, South Bend, IN
Property Owner: Mary Ellen and Charles Wilber
Landmark or District Designation: Riverside Drive Local Historic District
Rating: C-9, contributing
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
Built in 1907, this was a grand old house before it fell upon its present hard times. It has a
superb location, with views of Shetterly Park and the river. Developer Fred Keller built it in 1907 or
1090, and in 1910 sold it to Walter Weld, an employee of Singer Co., for $3,900. From 1910 to
1918, Mr. Weld rented this home to Susan and John F. Pool. John Fremont Pool was born in German
Township in 1856, and was chief engineer at the North Pumping Station. The Pools and their son,
Clifford, lived in this house from 1910 to 1923, when they sold it to attorney Roland Obenchain, the
founder of the prominent law firm that bears his name. The Obenchain family lived here for 37
years. In 1961, they sold it to the First Church of the Nazarene as a parsonage for the Rev. Kenneth
Bateman. At that point, it was still a grand and well cared for house. In 1975, the church sold it to.
Mr. and Mrs. Wilber, who continue to own it, and have leased it to various families over the years.
In 1991, the HPC granted a C of A for the installation of a 4 -foot high gothic picket fence. In
December of 1994, South Bend City Code Enforcement legal action required extensive repairs to be
performed by January 1995, and the HPC approved those repairs.
Occasionally over recent years Code Enforcement has initiated action regarding other
maintenance issues not requiring HPC approval.
APPLICATION ITEMS:
1. New garage roof
2. New garage service door
3. Reside garage with aluminum or vinyl
4. Replace garage overhead door, in kind
5. Replace existing garage soffit and fascia, reducing existing two -foot overhang to one
foot.
RECOMMENDATION
Originally, this garage was an unusually stylish and elegant Vernacular Greek Revival gem.
It has a very low hipped roof, two -foot eave overhangs with a wide, plain cornice, bead board siding,
and a large centered side window. While it is much smaller than a modern garage, it was much
larger than most garages of its day, and evidently intended to be an ornamental building.
There is a bump -out on the end of the garage to accommodate the longer cars fashionable in
the 1960s. This is not a contributing feature, and could be expensive to retain. Eliminating it and
restoring the original garage profile in that regard would be appropriate.
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Bead board wooden siding identical to the original is readily available in local lumber yards,
as are all the other materials that would be needed for repairing or rebuilding this garage in its
original form. However, vinyl bead board siding is also available. As the only rational explanation
for the present condition of the property is desperate poverty of the owner, the HPC may feel it
necessary to allow a departure from the usual standards in order to control costs. If the present siding
can be retained with the replacement of selected boards, that may be the cheaper alternative.
However, if total residing is required, then beaded vinyl siding is available cheaper than wood.
Staff notes that in May, the owner of a property neighboring this one requested and received
a C of A for the restoration of her ship -lap wood sided garage, restoring its original roof profile and
retaining its original sliding carriage door. Work on that garage is proceeding, and it will soon look
very nice.
I would recommend that the HPC grant a C of A specifying
(1) that the roof, eaves, and soffit be rebuilt in their existing profile,
(2) that both the overhead and the service door be repaired or replaced with doors of
the owners choice,
(3) that the bead board siding be repaired or replaced in kind, minus the 1960 bump -
out,
(4) that the plain cornice and corner boards be retained or duplicated, and
(5) that the boards over the two window openings be removed and the windows
repaired or replaced with windows of the same size, shape, profile, and dimensions as
the original.
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Application
- for -
Certficate of Appropriateness
Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County
125 South Lafayette Boulevard
Mailing address: 227 West Jefferson Blvd - South Bend IN 46601-1830
Phone: 219-235-9798 Fax: 219-235-9578 e-mail: historic@michiana.org
- A Certified Local Government
OFFICE USE ONLY>»»>DO�NNOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX«««OFFICE USE ONLY
Date Received 6 — //2utlb Application Number. 2003 0,0,//
Put Reviews: RYES (owricvusrut7aq--�?Y��9S ❑ NO
Staff Approval authorized by. C/ Title:
Historic Commission Review Date:
❑ Local Landmark
❑ National Register District al...h
XIAWHistoric DistrictCertificate of Approprlateness:'
❑ Denled
❑ Approved and Issued
❑ National Landmark
❑ Tabled
2002
❑ Sent To Committee
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City Owner's Phone No:
Name of Property Owner(s):rrvNn
Address of Property Owner: / 4/D 7 .
Contractors) Name: hf, G /A
Contract Company Name: /< C /Q
Contractor Address: !�) (J,,� (515-
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Contractor's Phone No: 2 8 5� – G 7 78
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Type of Building Construction: al;�j
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Proposed Work: ❑ Inkind ❑ Landscape ❑ New ❑ Replacement( -vi -kind)
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Demolition
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Owner/Contractor: Fax: e-mail:
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Sipmrof Owner Signature of Contractor
APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE.
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NOTICE
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OF SOUTH BEND AND SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY
HISTORIC DISTRICTS COMMITTEE
WILL HOLD A MEETING IN THE HISTORIC
PRESERVATION COMMISSION OFFICES AT
125 SOUTH LAFAYETTE BOULEVARD
5:00 P.M.
TUESDAY, JUNE 249 2003
AGENDA:
1. REVIEW AND APPROVE COVER DESIGN FOR
REPRINTED DISTRIC7uliT
� GUIDELINE BOOKS:
AST WAYNE STREET VER BEND
iDGEWATER PLACE RSIDE
NORTH ST. JOSEPH STREET ST NORTH SHORE DRIVE
-- 2. -REVIEW -AND APPROVE -TEXT,PHOTOS-&
DRAWINGS FOR SIX REPRINTED DISTRICT
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GUIDELINE BOOKS
Insert into Acknowledgements Section of all 8 revised books (or into another appropriate place
of printer's recommendation), a list of "Historic Preservation Commission members at time of
historic district institution." That will be a slightly different list for each district.
East Wayne:
Joann Sporleder, President
John Oxian, Vice President
Herb Herendeen, Secretary
Odell Newburn, Treasurer
Martha Choitz
Gina DeLaurelle
Charles Hayes
F. Jay Nimtz
Janeanne Petrass
Edgewater:
Ted Wasielewski
John Oxian
Joann Sporleder
Ruth Price
F. Jay Nimtz
Odell Newburn
David Reinke
John Appleton
John Stamper
River Bend
John Oxian, President
Jed Eide, Vice President
Jean Dennen, Secretary
William Welsheimer, Sr., Treasurer
Martha Choitz
Herb Herendeen
Janeanne Petrass
Joann Sporleder
Jewel Van Dalsen
Lincoln Way East
Joann Sporleder, President
John Oxian, Vice President
Charles Hayes, Secretary
Odell Newburn, Treasurer
Martha Choitz
Gina DesLaurelle
F. Jay Nimtz
Michael Beatty
Janeanne Petrass
THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OF SOUTH BEND & ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
MONTHLY MEETING
June 16, 2003
MEMBERS PRESENT:
STAFF PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
MINUTES
7`h Floor, Commissioner's Conference Room
County -City Building, South Bend, IN
Mary Jane Chase, Gerald Ujdak, John Oxian,
Catherine Hostetler, Virginia O'Hair, Diane
Wrobel-illes, Lynn Patrick, Joann Sporleder
Karen Hammond -Nash, Director
John Livingston, City Attorney
Julie Schutte, Assistant Director
Wayne Doolittle, Inspector
Martha Choitz, (illness)
ALSO PRESENT: Don Horning, Gina Delaruelle, Ann
McFadden, Dave Kimble, Bill Lamie
(architect), Gary Van Overberghe, (contractor),
Connie Ziegler, (Weintraut & Associates
Historians, Inc,), Laurie Johnson, (P.E.
Representative for St. Joseph County
Engineering Department)
I. CALL TO ORDER
JOHN OXIAN: Called the meeting to order at 7:38.
II. PUBLIC HEARING
A. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
1. 2003-0602; 1324 East Wayne Street South; Build a gabled roof
onto an existing flat -roof garage.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make a motion that we waive the reading of the history
parts of the C. of A. staff reports.
GERALD UJDAK: Seconds the motion and it passed unanimously.
DON HORNING: (Was present to answer questions from commission members).
(See attached staff recommendation for proposed work to be done).
LYNN PATRICK: I move that we approve application as presented and per staff
recommendation.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
2. 2003-0604; 509 Edgewater Drive: Remove modern landscape boxes
and install traditional front yard garden; replace and widen
driveway; pave part of back yard.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
DAVE KIMBLE: (Was present to answer questions from commission members).
(See attached staff recommendation and attached copy of letter sent to HPC by applicant
for proposed work to be done).
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that we approve the landscaping as recommended by
staff.
VIRGINIA O'HAIR: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that we approve of replacing and widening the driveway
not as recommended by staff, but as applied for by applicant. (paving driveway to within
two feet of houses on both sides all the way to the front of the house).
VIRGINIA O'HAIR: Seconds the motion and it passes. John Oxian abstained
MARY JANE CHASE: I will make a motion to approve the patio only after seeing what
the Building Department has to say.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Seconds the motion and it passes. John Oxian abstained.
3. 2003-0605; 53117 Olive Road; Bury utility cable; replace rotten
timbers; rebuild window; replace broken back steps.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: (See attached copy of letter sent to HPC from applicant).
JOHN OXIAN: Did you check all of the lumber yards to see if you could find an exact
match for your wood siding?
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: I called at least three of them. One of them was Big C
Lumber Company, another company was located near Michigan, and the other one was
Eckler Lahey Lumber Co.
JOHN OXIAN: Eckler Lahey Lumber Co. couldn't get you the lumber?
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: They told me that it would be very costly to get the cut that I
needed, and they didn't know of anyone that would have it. The wood I need is actually
cedar and poplar. I did not purchase the cedar due to the cost. I purchased the poplar
wood instead in the sizes that I needed.- I am going to try and put this wood in so that it
doesn't show any seam coming through. I am asking for any advice that anyone may
have to help me in getting this look. The area that needs to be fixed will be on the south
side of the house. This area will be in the sun, so I want to buy good wood that will last.
Any suggestions that you may have would be appreciated.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: What size lumber are you looking for?
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Eight feet long and sixteen inches broad and an inch -in -a
half thick.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: We have some catalogs at our shop that deal with this
type of historical material. They do a lot of demo as far as old farms, old factories, etc.
These catalogs contain odd sizes of lumber and there is probably planking in there
specific to the size that you need.
I know we had to get some old lumber for a museum in Benton Harbor that was
twenty-four inch board planks that were an inch and three quarters in width that we found
in one of these catalogs. I could bring some of those catalogs in for you. The wood that
is in these catalogs can not be purchased locally; it would all have to be shipped in via
transit carrier. I know that one of the distributors is out of Wisconsin in the Madison
area. They supply all kinds of older styled lumber.
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: I would be interested in looking at these catalogs; however, I
am also looking at the cost that will be involved.
JOANN SPORLEDER: How many pieces do you need in total?
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: I need one sixteen foot by sixteen inch board. I have already
actually purchased all of the other pieces of wood that will be seamed and fitted together.
The larger sized board was the piece I could not seem to find. _
JOANN SPORLEDER: Gary, if you make a rabbited joint on the top and bottom of that
so that it could then be fitted really tight together by using the two eight inch pieces could
that be put together in such a way so that it would end up looking like one larger piece?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: You can use a spline joint. Is it for exterior application?
JOANN SPORLEDER: Yes.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: They have glues that actually create a stronger bond
when moisture is present so that water does not leak in the joint. .
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that application number 2003-0605, which is 53117
Olive Road, (the original German school), be approved as presented. That the splicing or
piecing of the wood be done in such a way, with Gary Van Overberghe's help, so that it
will look like one piece of wood.
JOHN OXIAN: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
4. 2003-0606; 1344 East Wayne Street South; Build larger addition
over existing enclosed back stoop; re -side house.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
JOHN OXIAN: Let me correct something that you stated in your recommendations.
First of all, years ago the commission adopted a policy which stated that if a
person removes the siding on their house, that they have to replace the siding with new
siding that resembles the original siding. Someone also has to be present to make sure
that the original windows and details of the house are preserved. The commission will
then have to give their final approval on the type of siding that is to be installed.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: So, you want me to take the siding off and then stop
work until you get further approval to have the siding reinstalled. So, if I take the siding
off and you decide that I can not put new siding back on; then the owner will have to
incur the extra cost to fix what is underneath the siding.
JOHN OXIAN: Yes, because that is the policy that the commission adopted.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: The siding that is on the house now is dented, tattered,
faded, and looks unkempt as an artificial siding usually does. The owners are trying to
beautify the house with a cleaner look
JOANN SPORLEDER: There wouldn't be any way to match this existing siding and tie
it in together with the new addition and make it look like it is all one continuous piece.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: We can attach new aluminum siding to the existing
siding; but, you are not going to match the color and it is a difficult process to feather in
the new aluminum to the existing aluminum siding.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Then how far out relative to this old wall is this going to be?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: About three foot six inches.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Is there something happening up here; because, basically you
have a partial second floor on the upper level?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: In the existing house back where -that room comes out
there is an existing door on the laundry porch that goes into an empty room with no
closet. What we want to do is underneath the roof that extends down would be to
incorporate a closet in that space.
Option two with the changed pitch of the roof, is so that we can make that second
story room a little bit larger and more usable.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: That existing exterior door on the back of the house can
be installed on that blank wall on the side of the house.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Or you could install a window at the owner's option.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: The reason for expanding the kitchen is to that there
would be more usable space. If you install a window there then you will be cutting down
on your available wall space.
MARY JANE CHASE: Has anyone seen or does any one know what is currently
underneath the siding?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: My guess is that it is some sort of wood lap siding.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Do you know whether it is six inch, or four inch, or two
inch revealed?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: No I do not know.
JOHN OXIAN: You can always change that by making it bigger.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: That is not want the owner proposes to do, so that is not
what I am proposing to you.
JOHN OXIAN: The thing about it is that you are extending the back part here and then
you are leaving a porch back there that was added on at one time. You're also taking off
part of a building which was not added on, unless I am mistaken. So in other words, you
are making a whole new design on one side of the building. If you are going to make one
whole design on one side of the building then either make the stoop larger or put
something on the end which will at least look like what the house originally looked like.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: I can tell you that the front porch area with all the
windows is an addition to the house. So, the front porch is not an original part of the
house either.
JOANN SPORLEDER: What happens to this part of the porch?
GARY VANOVERBERGHE: That area will be tied into the side of the building. There
is a French door from the dining room that leads to out to the screened -in -porch.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Are you planning on having access to that screened -in -porch
from the kitchen?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: No, you will only have access from the dining room to
the screened -in -porch.
MARY JANE CHASE: So, the porch is going to stay then and tie in with the roof line
somehow with what we have seen here?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: It will tie into the side of the addition.
VIRGINIA O'HAIR: How does this look from the neighbor's view on the west side of
that house?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: There is a shared driveway that runs the distance
between the two properties to two unattached garages. From the view of the neighbors, I
could not tell you that; because, I have not been allowed to go onto their property.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Staff did have an opportunity to go out and walk by this
house and there is an existing enclosed stoop on the place where the proposed addition is
to be built. While the full size of the addition is eight by eleven feet; it is in fact, actually
only four feet wider and seven feet deeper than the existing stoop. So, it would not
actually be very much closer to the neighbor's property from our observation.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: I have one more request before you make any approval.
The homeowner called me previously this week about the windows. At some point in the
lifespan of this house the windows will have to be replaced.
If they are going to do the kitchen, then they would like to replace the kitchen
window. Now, I can provide a window of that same style with true divided light done in
either aluminum or wood sash. I brought sample of the window done in an aluminum
clad. The window is also available in a true wood form with true divided light. They
would like to replace the small twin double hung window that is presently there now.
We would use the same window opening that is already there and the window
would be custom made to fit this opening. The molding that is around the window
should be replaced so that it matches the existing trim.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that application number 2003-0606 at 1344 East Wayne
Street South be approved as suggested by staff.
MARY JANE CHASE: Seconds the motion and the motion passes. John Oxian and
Gerald Ujdak abstained.
JOHN OXIAN: I will make a motion that the replacement of the kitchen window be
approved by the commission as presented by the contractor.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Seconds the motion and the motion passes unanimously.
5. 2003-0609; 1335 East Wayne Street North; Build addition onto
back of house, including the following:
(A) convert North facing window into French doors and build
screened shed -roofed porch.
(B) remove two windows and build shed roofed addition & portico.
(C) enlarge kitchen window into shed roofed bay
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
WILLIAM LAMIE: (An architect representing the owners of 1335 East Wayne Street
North). (See proposed work description in attached C. of A.).
JOANN SPORLEDER: (Asked about the purpose for installing a bay window in the
kitchen).
GERALD UJDAK: I would like to make a motion that this be put into the Standards and
Maintenance Committee for an onsite meeting to resolve any and all questions so that this
board can then decide one way or another.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make an amendment to this motion that this not be put
into the Standards and Maintenance Committee; but, that the whole commission have a
special meeting on site and that you explain in more detail the proposed work that is to be
done so that everyone on the commission understands.
GERALD UJDAK: I accept John's amendment that all commission members have a
special meeting on site at the residence.
JOHN OXIAN: Seconds the motion and it passes. Joann Sporleder abstained.
6. 2003-0611; 1045 Riverside Drive; Rebuild deteriorated garage
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
Neither the owner nor the contractor was present to answer questions from commission
members.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make two changes in your recommendation; they are as
follows:
1. That the overhang door be exactly what you have there; except that if the
owner does not want to have windows in the garage door then he does not have
to have them.
2. If they are going to take the boards off the windows, then they either use a type
of wire mess to cover the original glass that is there or replace the original
glass with lexon. Make sure that the mess or the lexon is securely installed so
that it cannot be kicked in or damaged in any way.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I would like to suggest that they put in the screening and soffits
in some appropriate measure all the way around the garage for ventilation so that rotting
does not reoccur.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to amend my motion to include Joann's recommendation
that the screens and soffits be installed to stop rotting from reoccurring.
GERALD UJDAK: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
B. HEARING OF VISITORS
CONNIE ZIEGLER: (Representative for Weintraut & Associates Historians, Inc.).
We are doing an historical impact study for the US 31 changes in St. Joseph and
Marshall County. I am not here so much as to report; but, to ask you questions and try
and answer any questions that you might have regarding this study.
A lengthy discussion was then held between Connie Ziegler and commission
members regarding the historical study that is being done. Commission members
expressed the following concerns:
1. Crofoot farm, which is a local landmark
2. Houses and cemeteries along existing US31
3. Sumption Prairie
4. The ten of routes that are being proposed.
5. Will they also be including incorporated areas into their study.
6. Whether they have used the map that was published by McDonalds that locates
fairly well the structures and farms all over the county that we thought were
significant.
8. Whether they have considered the historic hedge rows that are located on
farms in the county
9. What the east -west span is for all of these proposed routes.
LAURIE JOHNSON: (P.E. representative for the St. Joseph County Engineering
Department). (See photos and proposed work description attached to C. of A.).
About two years ago we were here to get a C. of A. for the rehabilitation project
that we are currently undertaking. Part of that C. of A. included replacement of the
existing rail with what we call a, (Texas T -railing), which is shown in one of the
photographs that has been handed out to you. That was the railing that was to be used on
the bridge. We were also going to maintain three of the approach rails, which are the
curved sections of the bridge. One of these approach rails was also going to be repaired.
While we were doing demolition we noticed that the approach rails were in very
bad condition. If you look at the far right hand side of photograph number one, you can
see what happened during demolition. When this portion was being removed, it began to
pull out other portions of the remaining railing that were supposed to stay there.
When we removed the plaques for restoration more pieces kept falling apart.
These approach rails are in what we call the clear zone of the roadway. This is an area
we have to make sure is protected, to ensure that if a vehicle does hit them that they do
not go over the edge. Given the condition that these railing are in now, they would not
protect a vehicle from crashing into them and going over the edge. As you can see from
these pictures, vehicles have already hit portions of the bridge that have been knocked out
that we are going to have to repair. If while rehabilitating this bridge we happened to do
something that is not sufficient from a design standpoint, and a vehicle happens to crash
into it and someone gets injured then the county would be liable for this. At this point the
county cannot except that liability, so we need to look at doing something about these
approach rails.
I spoke with Karen probably about five weeks ago and brought this to her
attention. We needed to get a revised C. of A. and, also needed to get a revised, (M. O.
A.), which is our Memorandum of Agreement that we have to obtain through Federal
Highway. In the process Karen indicated that the commission might be receptive to
looking at a change to the entire rail, since we have to take off all of the historic portions
of the rail; and that we look at something that more closely resembles the existing rail.
So I was working with a contractor, who is going to build this rail, and with a
designer to come up with something that would meet federal highway requirements, and
would be close to resembling what is already there. The designer came up with a design
and then we had to send it to the contractor for them to give us a quote. We got a price
last week to get this replaced including the end rails.
This morning I met with officials from Indiana Department of Transportation;
because they are the funding source for a portion of this bridge. We had to get them on
board because of the significant over run to the project to replace the rail and then to also
change the window design from what was originally bid. The window design we came
up with was this extended oval opening, which is similar to the existing one. So,
basically what we have done to modify the design and still maintain federal highway
crash standards, is we have changed this gothic style opening to a simple extended oval
with the same opening size, which is six inch by one -foot -ten -inch.
There was a brief discussion between commission members and Lorie Johnson where as
commission members had the following points of concern:
1. Whether or not they can or can not save any of the original approaches that are
presently on the bridge.
2. Where the plaques are going to be located on the bridge.
3. Whether they are going to have lights installed on the bridge, or at least have
the electricity put in place so that lights can be installed at a later date.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I will make a motion to approve of the change to use the
extended oval pattern as presented, detailed and as illustrated.
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Seconds the motion.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Staff would beg for clarification here. Number one there
is the change of the opening shape; but, also I think what Ms. Johnson was interested in is
that the commission previously required that the original approaches be retained. What
she is asking is that the commission approve of the removal and replacement of the
approach rails.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I will make an amendment to my motion that we approve of the
replacement of the approach rails as outlined.
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
III. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (May)
(None)
B. LEGAL REPORT
JOHN LIVINGSTON: There was a question that came up last month about the lawsuit
for Madison School. Right now that litigation has been stalled and is dead from the
standpoint that they did request a temporary injunction that was denied by the judge. So
no action has taken place on that for about eighteen months.
JOHN OXIAN: Are you talking about the Leeper Park parking lot?
JOHN LIVINGSTON: Yes, the parking lot issue. I did talk with a John Strauss, who is
with the school system. I guess when this thing gets straightened out there will—they're
concerned that the lights are in the wrong place, that you were talking about.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Actually the problem is not that the lights are in the
wrong place; but, that the C. of A. did not allow the installation of any lights.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: Well it was clearly on the plan and you can see that when you
look at it.
GERALD UJDAK: Well it was never in any of the paperwork or in any of our actions.
JOHN OXIAN: I informed Mr. Livingston that the legal committee should meet with
him to discuss this matter. We should bring him up to date on what is going on and he
can bring us up to date on what is happening with the injunction. I would also like to talk
to him about the two windows at Madison School.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: From what I have learned, they have been destroyed.
JOHN OXIAN: That was a total violation, and was inexcusable. I want to see legal
action taken against them; or they can find a way to replace them.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: That area is now within the confines of the building. So, we
would have to find out if we would have any jurisdiction over what happened to those
two windows, due to the fact, that they are on the inside of the building.
JOHN OXIAN: That is where the windows were supposed to be. The motion that we
made stated that those two windows that were on the outside were supposed to be saved
for the future. I made the proposal and it was accepted that those windows, since they
were going to be on the inside, should be saved forever; because, there wouldn't be any
more deterioration. Just because they put that addition on does not excuse them from
taking out two windows that were in the C. of A.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: I understand that; but, those windows are no longer around
anymore.
JOHN OXIAN: Then legal action should be taken. If we allow them to get away with .
something like this, then they are going to pull that kind of stunt on us all the time.
JOANN SPORLEDER: There was another legal matter that was brought up last time
relative to the trees in the township park. Someone was going to talk with Pete
Augustino and coordinate what our objection was to cutting down the trees in the Clay
Township Cemetery.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: Did the county cut them down?
JOANN SPORLEDER: We think the person who installed the sign cut them down. Mr..
Augustino is doing some legal action with the township which owns the property. Tom, I
thought, was'going to coordinate the action we have, because it is a local landmark.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: I remember the conversation we had about that. I will have to
find out about this and let you know what is happening with this matter.
C. STAFF REPORTS:
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: There have been eight C. of A's staff approved since the
last commission meeting. They have been mostly in Wayne Street and in Edgewater.
They are all for in-kind replacements, or for maintenance, or removal of scrub trees.
Correspondence of significance is a letter received today from Economic
Development, which I believe has been passed out to all of you. Per your instructions I
attended the US 31 Coordination Meeting. I believe that from presentation of Connie.
Ziegler, you're adequately informed on that. I also spent several hours with the
publisher of the guideline booklets preparing for republishing. We have several books
ready to be printed when there is a vote approving the reprinting from the District
Committee.
JOHN OXIAN: This letter from Economic Development requests that we have some
input into the proposed demolition of Oliver Manufacturing Plant
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: We had input, we said we didn't want it torn down.
They are appealing our decision to the state.
D. COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. River Bank Coordinating Committee
(Nothing to report at this time)
2. Historic Districts Committee: Proofs of district books
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: I talked to Martha about setting up a meeting to make
final approval of the proofs for the district books. Martha has informed me that she is ill
and does not expect to be able to attend or assist in any committee meetings for at least
another month.
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Agreed to set a meeting date in Martha's absence.
3. Southhold Awards Committee
Committee met and selected a location for the Southhold Awards Ceremony. It is to be
held at Tippecanoe Place on July 26, 2003. The program at the ceremony will be about
Historic Wooden Window Maintenance and Repair and will be co -hosted by the Historic
Landmark Foundation of Indiana. The committee will also meet again in July to select
award winners.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
1. Muessel-Drewery's Brewery Committee Report.
(Nothing to Report)
VII. ADJOURNMENT
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Makes a motion to adjourn the meeting.
MARY JANE CHASE: Seconds the motion.
Meeting adjourns at 10:13
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THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OF SOUTH BEND & ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
MONTHLY MEETING
June 16, 2003
MEMBERS PRESENT:
STAFF PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
MINUTES
7'' Floor, Commissioner's Conference Room
County -City Building, South Bend, IN
Mary Jane Chase, Gerald Ujdak, John Oxian,
Catherine Hostetler, Virginia O'Hair, Diane
Wrobel-illes, Lynn Patrick, Joann Sporleder
Karen Hammond -Nash, Director
John Livingston, City Attorney
Julie Schutte, Assistant Director
Wayne Doolittle, Inspector
Martha Choitz, (illness)
ALSO PRESENT: Don Horning, Gina Delaruelle, Ann
McFadden, Dave Kimble, Bill Lamie
(architect), Gary Van Overberghe, (contractor),
Connie Ziegler, (Weintraut & Associates
Historians, Inc,), Laurie Johnson, (P.E.
Representative for St. Joseph County
Engineering Department)
CALL TO ORDER
JOHN OXIAN: Called the meeting to order at 7:38.
II. PUBLIC HEARING
A. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS
1. 2003-0602; 1324 East Wayne Street South; Build a gabled roof
onto an existing flat -roof garage.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make a motion that we waive the reading of the history
parts of the C. of A. staff reports.
GERALD UJDAK: Seconds the motion and it passed unanimously.
DON HORNING: (Was present to answer questions from commission members).
(See attached staff recommendation for proposed work to be done).
LYNN PATRICK: I move that we approve application as presented and per staff
recommendation.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
2. 2003-0604; 509 Edgewater Drive: Remove modern landscape boxes
and install traditional front yard garden; replace and widen
driveway; pave part of back yard.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
DAVE KIMBLE: (Was present to answer questions from commission members).
(See attached staff recommendation and attached copy of letter sent to HPC by applicant
for proposed work to be done).
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that we approve the landscaping as recommended by
staff.
VIRGINIA O'HAIR: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that we approve of replacing and widening the driveway
not as recommended by staff, but as applied for by applicant. (paving driveway to within
two feet of houses on both sides all the way to the front of the house).
VIRGINIA O'HAIR: Seconds the motion and it passes. John Oxian abstained
MARY JANE CHASE: I will make a motion to approve the patio only after seeing what
the Building Department has to say.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Seconds the motion and it passes. John Oxian abstained.
3. 2003-0605; 53117 Olive Road; Bury utility cable; replace rotten
timbers; rebuild window; replace broken back steps.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: (See attached copy of letter sent to HPC from applicant).
JOHN OXIAN: Did you check all of the lumber yards to see if you could find an exact
match for your wood siding?
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: I called at least three of them. One of them was Big C
Lumber Company, another company was located near Michigan, and the other one was
Eckler Lahey Lumber Co.
JOHN OXIAN: Eckler Lahey Lumber Co. couldn't get you the lumber?
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: They told me that it would be very costly to get the cut that I
needed, and they didn't know of anyone that would have it. The wood I need is actually
cedar and poplar. I did not purchase the cedar due to the cost. I purchased the poplar
wood instead in the sizes that I needed. I am going to try and put this wood in so that it
doesn't show any seam coming through. I am asking for any advice that anyone may
have to help me in getting this look. The area that needs to be fixed will be on the south
side of the house. This area will be in the sun, so I want to buy good wood that will last.
Any suggestions that you may have would be appreciated.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: What size lumber are you looking for?
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Eight feet long and sixteen inches broad and an inch -in -a
half thick.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: We have some catalogs at our shop that deal with this
type of historical material. They do a lot of demo as far as old farms, old factories, etc.
These catalogs contain odd sizes of lumber and there is probably planking in there
specific to the size that you need.
I know we had to get some old lumber for a museum in Benton Harbor that was
twenty-four inch board planks that were an inch and three quarters in width that we found
in one of these catalogs. I could bring some of those catalogs in for you. The wood that
is in these catalogs can not be purchased locally; it would all have to be shipped in via
transit carrier. I know that one of the distributors is out of Wisconsin in the Madison
area. They supply all kinds of older styled lumber.
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: I would be interested in looking at these catalogs; however, I
am also looking at the cost that will be involved.
JOANN SPORLEDER: How many pieces do you need in total?
DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: I need one sixteen foot by sixteen inch board. I have already
actually purchased all of the other pieces of wood that will be seamed and fitted together.
The larger sized board was the piece I could not seem to find.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Gary, if you make a rabbited joint on the top and bottom of that
so that it could then be fitted really tight together by using the two eight inch pieces could
that be put together in such a way so that it would end up looking like one larger piece?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: You can use a spline joint. Is it for exterior application?
JOANN SPORLEDER: Yes.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: They have glues that actually create a stronger bond
when moisture is present so that water does not leak in the joint.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that application number 2003-0605, which is 53117
Olive Road, (the original German school), be approved as presented. That the splicing or
piecing of the wood be done in such a way, with Gary Van Overberghe's help, so that it
will look like one piece of wood.
JOHN OXIAN: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
4. 2003-0606; 1344 East Wayne Street South; Build larger addition
over existing enclosed back stoop; re -side house.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
JOHN OXIAN: Let me correct something that you stated in your recommendations.
First of all, years ago the commission adopted a policy which stated that if a
person removes the siding on their house, that they have to replace the siding with new
siding that resembles the original siding. Someone also has to be present to make sure
that the original windows and details of the house are preserved. The commission will
then have to give their final approval on the type of siding that is to be installed.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: So, you want me to take the siding off and then stop
work until you get further approval to have the siding reinstalled. So, if I take the siding
off and you decide that I can not put new siding back on; then the owner will have to
incur the extra cost to fix what is underneath the siding.
JOHN OXIAN: Yes, because that is the policy that the commission adopted.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: The siding that is on the house now is dented, tattered,
faded, and looks unkempt as an artificial siding usually does. The owners are trying to
beautify the house with a cleaner look
JOANN SPORLEDER: There wouldn't be any way to match this existing siding and tie
it in together with the new addition and make it look like it is all one continuous piece.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE : We can attach new aluminum siding to the existing
siding; but, you are not going to match the color and it is a difficult process to feather in
the new aluminum to the existing aluminum siding.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Then how far out relative to this old wall is this going to be?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: About three foot six inches.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Is there something happening up here; because, basically you
have a partial second floor on the upper level?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: In the existing house back where that room comes out
there is an existing door on the laundry porch that goes into an empty room with no
closet. What we want to do is underneath the roof that extends down would be to
incorporate a closet in that space.
Option two with the changed pitch of the roof, is so that we can make that second
story room a little bit larger and more usable.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: That existing exterior door on the back of the house can
be installed on that blank wall on the side of the house.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Or you could install a window at the owner's option.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: The reason for expanding the kitchen is to that there
would be more usable space. If you install a window there then you will be cutting down
on your available wall space.
MARY JANE CHASE: Has anyone seen or does any one know what is currently
underneath the siding?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: My guess is that it is some sort of wood lap siding.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Do you know whether it is six inch, or four inch, or two
inch revealed?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: No I do not know.
JOHN OXIAN: You can always change that by making it bigger.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: That is not want the owner proposes to do, so that is not
what I am proposing to you.
JOHN OXIAN: The thing about it is that you are extending the back part here and then
you are leaving a porch back there that was added on at one time. You're also taking off
part of a building which was not added on, unless I am mistaken. So in other words, you
are making a whole new design on one side of the building. If you are going to make one
whole design on one side of the building then either make the stoop larger or put
something on the end which will at least look like what the house originally looked like.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: I can tell you that the front porch area with all the
windows is an addition to the house. So, the front porch is not an original part of the
house either.
JOANN SPORLEDER: What happens to this part of the porch?
GARY VANOVERBERGHE: That area will be tied into the side of the building. There
is a French door from the dining room that leads to out to the screened -in -porch.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Are you planning on having access to that screened -in -porch
from the kitchen?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: No, you will only have access from the dining room to
the screened -in -porch.
MARY JANE CHASE: So, the porch is going to stay then and tie in with the roof line
somehow with what we have seen here?
G-,aY VAN OVERBERGHE: It will tie into the side of the addition.
VIRGINIA O'HAIR: How does this look from the neighbor's view on the west side of
that house?
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: There is a shared driveway that runs the distance
between the two properties to two unattached garages. From the view of the neighbors, I
could not tell you that; because, I have not been allowed to go onto their property.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Staff did have an opportunity to go out and walk by this
house and there is an existing enclosed stoop on the place where the proposed addition is
to be built. While the full size of the addition is eight by eleven feet; it is in fact, actually
only four feet wider and seven feet deeper than the existing stoop. So, it would not
actually be very much closer to the neighbor's property from our observation.
GARY VAN OVERBERGHE: I have one more request before you make any approval.
The homeowner called me previously this week about the windows. At some point in the
lifespan of this house the windows will have to be replaced.
If they are going to do the kitchen, then they would like to replace the kitchen
window. Now, I can provide a window of that same style with true divided light done in
either aluminum or wood sash. I brought sample of the window done in an aluminum
clad. The window is also available in a true wood form with true divided light. They
would like to replace the small twin double hung window that is presently there now.
We would use the same window opening that is already there and the window
would be custom made to fit this opening. The molding that is around the window
should be replaced so that it matches the existing trim.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that application number 2003-0606 at 1344 East Wayne
Street South be approved as suggested by staff.
MARY JANE CHASE: Seconds the motion and the motion passes. John Oxian and
Gerald Uj dak abstained.
JOHN OXIAN: I will make a motion that the replacement of the kitchen window be
approved by the commission as presented by the contractor.
JOANN SPORLEDER: Seconds the motion and the motion passes unanimously.
5. 2003-0609; 1335 East Wayne Street North; Build addition onto
back of house, including the following:
(A) convert North facing window into French doors and build
screened shed -roofed porch.
(B) remove two windows and build shed roofed addition & portico.
(C) enlarge kitchen window into shed roofed bay
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
WILLIAM LAMIE: (An architect representing the owners of 1335 East Wayne Street
North). (See proposed work description in attached C. of A.).
JOANN SPORLEDER: (Asked about the purpose for installing a bay window in the
kitchen).
GERALD UJDAK: I would like to make a motion that this be put into the Standards and
Maintenance Committee for an onsite meeting to resolve any and all questions so that this
board can then decide one way or another.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make an amendment to this motion that this not be put
into the Standards and Maintenance Committee; but, that the whole commission have a
special meeting on site and that you explain in more detail the proposed work that is to be
done so that everyone on the commission understands.
GERALD UJDAK: I accept John's amendment that all commission members have a
special meeting on site at the residence.
JOHN OXIAN: Seconds the motion and it passes. Joann Sporleder abstained.
6. 2003-0611; 1045 Riverside Drive; Rebuild deteriorated garage
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: (See attached staff report).
Neither the owner nor the contractor was present to answer questions from commission
members.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make two changes in your recommendation; they are as
follows:
1. That the overhang door be exactly what you have there; except that if the
owner does not want to have windows in the garage door then he does not have
to have them.
2. If they are going to take the boards off the windows, then they either use a type
of wire mess to cover the original glass that is there or replace the original
glass with lexon. Make sure that the mess or the lexon is securely installed so
that it cannot be kicked in or damaged in any way.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I would like to suggest that they put in the screening and soffits
in some appropriate measure all the way around the garage for ventilation so that rotting
does not reoccur.
JOHN OXIAN: I would like to amend my motion to include Joann's recommendation
that the screens and soffits be installed to stop rotting from reoccurring.
GERALD UJDAK: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
B. HEARING OF VISITORS
CONNIE ZIEGLER: (Representative for Weintraut & Associates Historians, Inc.).
We are doing an historical impact study for the US 31 changes in St. Joseph and
Marshall County. I am not here so much as to report; but, to ask you questions and try
and answer any questions that you might have regarding this study.
A lengthy discussion was then held between Connie Ziegler and commission
members regarding the historical study that is being done. Commission members
expressed the following concerns:
1. Crofoot farm, which is a local landmark
2. Houses and cemeteries along existing US31
3. Sumption Prairie
4. The ten of routes that are being proposed.
5. Will they also be including incorporated areas into their study.
6. Whether they have used the map that was published by McDonalds that locates
fairly well the structures and farms all over the county that we thought were
significant.
8. Whether they have considered the historic hedge rows that are located on
farms in the county
9. What the east -west span is for all of these proposed routes.
LAURIE JOHNSON: (P.E. representative for the St. Joseph County Engineering
Department). (See photos and proposed work description attached to C. of A.).
About two years ago we were here to get a C. of A. for the rehabilitation project
that we are currently undertaking. Part of that C. of A. included replacement of the
existing rail with what we call a, (Texas T -railing), which is shown in one of the
photographs that has been handed out to you. That was the railing that was to be used on
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the bridge. We were also going to maintain three of the approach rails, which are the
curved sections of the bridge. One of these approach rails was also going to be repaired.
While we were doing demolition we noticed that the approach rails were in very
bad condition. If you look at the far right hand side of photograph number one, you can
see what happened during demolition. When this portion was being removed, it began to
pull out other portions of the remaining railing that were supposed to stay there.
When we removed the plaques for restoration more pieces kept falling apart.
These approach rails are in what we call the clear zone of the roadway. This is an area
we have to make sure is protected, to ensure that if a vehicle does hit them that they do
not go over the edge. Given the condition that these railing are in now, they would not
protect a vehicle from crashing into them and going over the edge. As you can see from
these pictures, vehicles have already hit portions of the bridge that have been knocked out
that we are going to have to repair. If while rehabilitating this bridge we happened to do
something that is not sufficient from a design standpoint, and a vehicle happens to crash
into it and someone gets injured then the county would be liable for this. At this point the
county cannot except that liability, so we need to look at doing something about these
approach rails.
I spoke with Karen probably about five weeks ago and brought this to her
attention. We needed to get a revised C. of A. and also needed to get a revised, (M. O.
A.), which is our Memorandum of Agreement that we have to obtain through Federal
Highway. In the process Karen indicated that the commission might be receptive to
looking at a change to the entire rail, since we have to take off all of the historic portions
of the rail; and that we look at something that more closely resembles the existing rail.
So I was working with a contractor, who is going to build this rail, and with a
designer to come up with something that would meet federal highway requirements, and
would be close to resembling what is already there. The designer came up with a design
and then we had to send it to the contractor for them to give us a quote. We got a price
last week to -get this replaced including the end rails.
This morning I met with officials from Indiana Department of Transportation;
because they are the funding source for a portion of this bridge. We had to get them on
board because of the significant over run to the project to replace the rail and then to also
change the window design from what was originally bid. The window design we came
up with was this extended oval opening, which is similar to the existing one. So,
basically what we have done to modify the design and still maintain federal highway
crash standards, is we have changed this gothic style opening to a simple extended oval
with the same opening size, which is six inch by one -foot -ten -inch.
There was a brief discussion between commission members and Lorie Johnson where as
commission members had the following points of concern:
1. Whether or not they can or can not save any of the original approaches that are
presently on the bridge.
2. Where the plaques are going to be located on the bridge.
3. Whether they are going to have lights installed on the bridge, or at least have
the electricity put in place so that lights can be installed at a later date.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I will make a motion to approve of the change to use the
extended oval pattern as presented, detailed and as illustrated.
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Seconds the motion.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Staff would beg for clarification here. Number one there
is the change of the opening shape; but, also I think what Ms. Johnson was interested in is
that the commission previously required that the original approaches be retained. What
she is asking is that the commission approve of the removal and replacement of the
approach rails.
JOANN SPORLEDER: I will make an amendment to my motion that we approve of the
replacement of the approach rails as outlined.
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Seconds the motion and it passes unanimously.
III. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (May)
(None)
B. LEGAL REPORT
JOHN LIVINGSTON: There was a question that came up last month about the lawsuit
for Madison School. Right now that litigation has been stalled and is dead from the
standpoint that they did request a temporary injunction that was denied by the judge. So
no action has taken place on that for about eighteen months.
JOHN OXIAN: Are you talking about the Leeper Park parking lot?
JOHN LIVINGSTON: Yes, the parking lot issue. I did talk with a John Strauss, who is
with the school system. I guess when this thing gets straightened out there will—they're
concerned that the lights are in the wrong place, that you were talking about.
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Actually the problem is not that the lights are in the
wrong place; but, that the C. of A. did not allow the installation of any lights.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: Well it was clearly on the plan and you can see that when you
look at it.
GERALD UJDAK: Well it was never in any of the paperwork or in any of our actions.
JOHN OXIAN: I informed Mr. Livingston that the legal committee should meet with
him to discuss this matter. We should bring him up to date on what is going on and he
can bring us up to date on what is happening with the injunction. I would also like to talk
to him about the two windows at Madison School.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: From what I have learned, they have been destroyed.
JOHN OXIAN: That was a total violation, and was inexcusable. I want to see legal
action taken against them; or they can find a way to replace them.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: That area is now within the confines of the building. So, we
would have to find out if we would have any jurisdiction over what happened to those
two windows, due to the fact, that they are on the inside of the building.
JOHN OXIAN: That is where the windows were supposed to be. The motion that we
made stated that those two windows that were on the outside were supposed to be saved
for the future. I made the proposal and it was accepted that those windows, since they
were going to be on the inside, should be saved forever; because, there wouldn't be any
more deterioration. Just because they put that addition on does not excuse them from
taking out two windows that were in the C. of A.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: I understand that; but, those windows are no longer around
anymore.
JOHN OXIAN: Then legal action should be taken. If we allow them to get away with
something like this, then they are going to pull that kind of stunt on us all the time.
JOANN SPORLEDER: There was another legal matter that was brought up last time
relative to the trees in the township park. Someone was going to talk with Pete
Augustino and coordinate what our objection was to cutting down the trees in the Clay
Township Cemetery.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: Did the county cut them down?
JOANN SPORLEDER: We think the person who installed the sign cut them down. Mr.
Augustine is doing some legal action with the township which owns the property. Tom, I
thought, was going to coordinate the action we have, because it is a local landmark.
JOHN LIVINGSTON: I remember the conversation we had about that. I will have to
find out about this and let you know what is happening with this matter.
C. STAFF REPORTS:
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: There have been eight C. of A's staff approved since the
last commission meeting. They have been mostly in Wayne Street and in Edgewater.
They are all for in-kind replacements, or for maintenance, or removal of scrub trees.
Correspondence of significance is a letter received today from Economic
Development, which I believe has been passed out to all of you. Per your instructions I
attended the US 31 Coordination Meeting. I believe that from presentation of Connie.
Ziegler, you're adequately informed on that. I also spent several hours with the
publisher of the guideline booklets preparing for republishing. We have several books
ready to be printed when there is a vote approving the reprinting from the District
Committee.
JOHN OXIAN: This letter from Economic Development requests that we have some
input into the proposed demolition of Oliver Manufacturing Plant
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: We had input, we said we didn't want it torn down.
They are appealing our decision to the state.
D. COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. River Bank Coordinating Committee
(Nothing to report at this time)
2. Historic Districts Committee: Proofs of district books
KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: I talked to Martha about setting up a meeting to make
final approval of the proofs for the district books. Martha has informed me that she is ill
and does not expect to be able to attend or assist in any committee meetings for at least
another month.
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Agreed to set a meeting date in Martha's absence.
3. Southhold Awards Committee
Committee met and selected a location for the Southhold Awards Ceremony. It is to be
held at Tippecanoe Place on July 26, 2003. The program at the ceremony will be about
Historic Wooden Window Maintenance and Repair and will be co -hosted by the Historic
Landmark Foundation of Indiana. The committee will also meet again in July to select
award winners.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
1. Muessel-Drewery's Brewery Committee Report.
(Nothing to Report)
VII. ADJOURNMENT
CATHERINE HOSTETLER: Makes a motion to adjourn the meeting.
MARY JANE CHASE: Seconds the motion.
Meeting adjourns at 10:13