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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 2002NOTICE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND AND SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WILL HOLD A MEETING IN COMMISSION OFFICES AT 125 SOUTH LAFAYETTE BOULEVARD AT 3:00 P.M. TUESDAY, JULY 29 2002 AGENDA I. CALL TO ORDER II. PROPOSED M OE SCHOOL PARKING LOT PLANS & SETTLEMENT VIII. ENFORCEMENT MATTERS & PROCEDURES IV. NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE GRANT FOR OUR //NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION PROJECT v- RESOLUTION OF APPRECIATION FOR INTERN SERVICES VI. ADJOURNMENT .41 Regular Meeting — 7th Floor — County -City Building Monday, July 15, 2002 7:30 PM I. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL Introduction of new members II. PUBLIC HEARING A. CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS 1. 2002-0607; 1402, 1404, & 1406 Lincolnway East; re -level foundation; replace all siding; replace all windows; repair chimney. 2. 2002-0705(b); 1512 East Wayne Street; Plant two Sunset maple trees. 3. 2002-0708; 909 Riverside Drive; Demolish wood frame garden house. 4. 2002-0709; 1067 Riverside Drive; back yard fence. 5. 2002-0711; 1332 East Wayne Street South; widen driveway. 6. 2002-0115; 215 Hammond Court, install privacy fence. B. LOCAL LANDMARKS, SECOND READING 1. 130 Park Lane, South Bend, The Junior League House C. HEARING OF VISITORS III. REGULAR BUSINESS A. LOCAL LANDMARKS, FIRST READING 1. 53117 Olive Road, South Bend, The Old German Schoolhouse 2. 1820 Portage Avenue, South Bend 3. 411 Lincolnway West, South Bend 4. 619 Sherman Street, South Bend 5. Lion House, Potawatomi Zoo, 500 South Greenlawn, South Bend B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES C. STAFF REPORTS: 1. Director's Reports: C. of A. Approvals; Correspondence; I.U.S.B Art & Architecture class project. 2. Inspector's Report 3. Legal Report, PANA Settlement Proposal 4. Intern's Report regarding proposed German Twp. Historic District IV. OLD BUSINESS: A. Election of Standing Committees V. NEW BUSINESS VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS & MISCELLANEOUS MATTERS 2 �� A. Kessler historic landscape seminar; Chapin Park Garden Wal VII. ADJOURNMENT SOUTH BEND & SAINT JOSEPH COUNTY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION JULY 15, 2002 MEETING GUESTS: PLEASE SIGN THIS LIST SO YOUR PRESENCE CAN BE NOTED FOR OUR MINUTES lloA4N �syti y � � � �� �� 1 p't' o °p�� o� . �. 2323 West 59th Street - Chicago, Illinois 60636 - Phone 773/737-4500 June 14, 2002 Historic Preservation Commission South Bend, Indiana 46601 Dear Karen, It was a pleasure speaking with you on the phone this afternoon. I would like to point out that Lang Exterior, Inc. Is celebrating their 50th Anniversary in the window manufacturing industry! Also, we are the only company to offer 29 different color combinations in our custom-made vinyl windows. Our products, each and every one of them are custom made to fit existing window openings. I'm sure Lang Exterior, Inc. Will be more than able to accommodate the needs to restore your historic landmark. Please find brochures and color samples to hopefully help make the final decisions in your window purchasing. Feel free to call with any questions you may have.. Sincerely, , ina Carlson h Customer Service Representative . :.. STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFIATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Application Number: 2002-0607 Property Location: 1402) 1404, & 1406 Lincolnway East, South Bend Note: this is one building. Property Owner: Robert C. Schafer, Personal Representative of the Estate of Mabel F. Schafer Landmark or District Designation: Local Historic District — Lincolnway East Rating: Contributing - 9 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT The original front part of this house was a Queen Anne or Free Classic farmhouse, built in about 1882, and built according to some of the better building and design practices of the day, but not under the direction of an architect. Not too many years later, perhaps 1�90, according to indications in the City Directories, a duplex addition was added on to it. There were several other additional rooms patched on thereafter. The original porches are gone. The earliest clear record of ownership shows Eva & Carl Beal owning the house, and living in the 1404 portion in 1927. Mr Beal was manager of the Ludwig Auto Supply Company. In the 1930s, the Beals transferred co -ownership of the house to Alta & Oscar Ludwig. Mr. Ludwig was the owner of Ludwig Auto Supply. The Ludwigs rented out their portion of the house, and never lived there. In 1938, the Beals and Ludwigs sold the house to Tower Federal Savings & Loan Assoc., which owned it for six years, renting out apartments in it. Mr. Schaffer informs me that by 1944 the house was becoming run-down, and depressing neighboring property values, so his parents, who lived next door (and were incidentally the owners of a local dairy), purchased the house, had it covered with gray asphalt siding, and performed some other repairs, to keep its appearance up. They continued its use as an apartment house. At the time that this area became a historic district, his widowed mother was the sole owner. It was she who caused a large piece of plywood to be nailed over the upstairs hall/stair window, just after the decision was made to become a historic district, and that piece of plywood remains there to this day. Mabel Schafer died in 1983, and her son Nelson, who was first representing her estate, has also died. The surviving son, Robert, has now become personal representative in place of his deceased brother. He is actually living in one of the apartments in this house. RECOMMENDATION. A. Staff recommends approval of the leveling of the foundation, provided only that all aspects of the South Bend Building Code be followed. B. Staff recommends approval of the replacement siding exhibiting the same reveal as that originally found on the front, or oldest, part of the house. The existing siding is already artificial, and is an appalling variety of different styles in very bad condition. That said, we are worried about the proposed method of installation. Mr. Schafer proposes to install new vinyl siding over the top of the existing siding, most of which is seriously deteriorated asphalt. There is also some vinyl, and, I believe, some artificial stone siding on various portions of the house. Mr. Schafer's thoughts are, first, that the triple layer of siding will give very good insulation, and save on utility bills, and, second, that he wishes to avoid the cost of tear -off and disposal of the huge amount of heavy asphalt siding involved. I inquired of the Building Department inspectors whether this would receive their approval. It might, but might not. Their concerns would be, first, whether the plan called for insulation panels, firing strips, or both, to provide a flat surface for the new siding, and second, whether the proposed method of fastening would be adequate to hold through three layers of siding into the supporting structural members. At least the artificial stone might need to be removed. A second concern is that this proposed installation would result in such a deep layer of siding that, not only will the window trim be deeply covered, they will be much recessed as well. C. Staff recommends approving replacement all the windows in the house, including the one that has been boarded up, provided that the following conditions are met: (1) The sizes and shapes of the original window openings should be preserved, and the windows sized to fit the entire opening; not filed in with extra stuff between the actual window and the existing wall; (2) All windows in the front portion of the house, or visible from Lincolnway East, should be one pane over one pane, OR two -panes over two -panes; (3) All portions of the window sashes or frames visible from the exterior, including any storm or screen windows, should be either painted, or colored as described in the Lang Manufacturing brochure submitted with this Application; (4) There should be an exterior trim frame of the same breadth as on the original windows, i.e., 4" to 5", around the sides and top of each window. If this cannot be done by exposing the original frame, then it should be done by installation of new exterior trim, stained or painted in a color of the owner's choice. Staff is aware that vinyl replacement windows are not routinely approved. However, in this case, several of the windows to be replaced are already vinyl windows, and those that are wood are covered with mill -finish aluminum storm windows. D. Staff recommends that when the siding and windows are replaced, the shutters existing on some of the windows be removed and NOT replaced. E. Staff recommends approval of the chimney repair, specifying the use of high -lime, low Portland content mortar on all portions of the chimney made with brick manufactured prior to 1930. �4 Application -for- Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 South Lafayette Boulevard Mailing address: 227 West Jefferson Blvd - South Bend IN 46601-1830 Phone: 219-235-9798 Fax: 219-235-9578 e-mail. historic@micWana.org A Certified Local Government OFFICE USE ONLri»»>DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOXa«__OFFICE USEONLY ---7--5- Date Received /2002 Application Number. 2002- G 7L.S Past Reviews: ❑ YES (ou-EaFt,s7REnrs9 ❑ NO Stats Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: ❑ Local Landmark ❑ National Register District (mm.): XLocai Historic District (x_). Certificate of Appropriateness: ❑ Denied ❑ National Landmark ❑ Tabled ❑ Sent To Committee ❑ Approved and issued 2002 Address of Property &17 jr}�or proposed work: j � . V GZ V Xf,City: _C's[ ,l y� Cr Owner's Phone No: / 5 � Name of PropertyOwner(s):mx,Nn 1✓&t lor,lL/ jj i"-• Z( /'t01Cr 711,D j / ` Address of Property Owner : 5 1 I�UQ '�l?(' G G� /Gt ! 7(-,11a L I Vj `�� �i j.✓ Contractor(s) Name: t l� , f �Q (C' r A c v S h Contract Company Name: Ma ��' r n c Lv S,k , �,S �" �C; eve r -/ /lGt <: Contractor Address: �` I (xtP /�( City: V-' t rR e e k` Contractor's Phone No: Current Use of Building: (Sinlie f'a/nuAW&F—1y-Commercwl-Gov�wv-lndusmai- D'acanr-ec Type of Building Construction: /�'/� / c (Weal Frame -Bnek- Stone -Steel -cmn ere -Gtherl Proposed Work: ❑ Inkind l=1 Landscape ❑ New ❑ Replacement(noti -kind) (mon than one box may be chedked) ❑ Demolition ( Description of Proposed Work: )) I /7l (' t;f e t? /j�% S Ull.S�' i21 Qll)1 F �ffC'S (��%/iYG1Cll1?Ct f!IG �� T 1�1�/1 C7°�Ct r'eA rttt-�j J e/Contractor: Fax: MY 1 2 33 - 9G'Uq e-mail: kis o e nU rnrsespond wnh oo,* oonnnee dw g e)f, 4!6 Signature of Owner Signature of Contractor / J APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE. I V 4 // S+ r -e c>..1. /c'ur1� r I (. r- vv 61 1. � A o 1) j t,) S e t � 0 L -I C' r Application - for - Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 South Lafayette Boulevard Mailing 4ddress: 227 West Jefferson Blvd - South Bend Iti 46601-1830 Phone: 219-235-9798 Fax: 219-235-9578 e-mail: historic,t_imichiana.org A Certified Local Government OFFICE USEONLY>> »>DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN TI[IS HOX«««OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received 7—_9 2002 Application Number: 2002- =3 Past Reviews: I YES (D.trEOF[ASTREviEm ❑ NO Staff Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: ❑ Local Landmark ❑ National Register District a;_o Local Historic District ny e): , Certificate of Appropriateness: ❑ Denied ❑ Approved and issued ❑ National Landmark Address of Property for proposed work: Tabled Sent To Committee 2002 ' SNen hSwer ind Srra Ntroe) City (I Owner's Phone No: ^? 3 3 - 7-D —T Name of Property Owner(S):^wn / it i1v V e n P `� � ' a�u � Ce C Address of Property Owner: Ajy-YZ 0 _ Contractor(s) Name: Contract Company Name: Contractor Address: City: Contractor's Phone No: Current Use of Building: O �Grl + .i vl iii 3rd t ,-iDU'+: C Q (Single Famdy-MwIt M—1y-CoMMrram-GovernMew-I.dean,*-Vacant-eta " i (''(i'J Type of Building Construction: W -00(.1W-00(.1- 4-116i 'C_._ i5k2,i VLtt (Woad Frdme- 8nak . StoneC—ete- GM-) Proposed Work: ❑ Inkind ❑ Landscape ❑ New Replacement(nat;n-rind) (Mort than one box may be checked) ❑ Demolition Description o`f Proposed Work: + � 1 CGl `� 60 U1 0 - 1 u `p�Om RA k f S t� ! C/ttrt (+-2 1� i C' i T - CY��r� -fin O�wn�er/Contractor: Fax: e-mail: ?hiee(fi�et wia cormpond Mdrwdy, onedenggee i _�:.•Cil.,�i1.-J1.,,1(�u...x.-wc.r.�.;d'ti�s�/��c(Or Signature ofOwner \ / - Signature of Contractor APPLICATION REQVMEMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE. C'C�Cun17//I g to sb e -A 5 1 � t t .i� *• i t r /� .' o "�t''` ..�♦�iL'�i.. Y` i �, -} ���, •t.. ,'; vaa fes: - . •, ��� y -1 ���;:- \ � ��4i►. *.�`> Y' � � �-� i. y fit' tp� -r / �c;„'%� t�,�F � '' t �� r � r � �,�. `'sa �� �: � Y�����.i L � �: !'.y♦i • �' � t. `y �.i.:"�'•,-',. ""'-�„!'�--c�:�'� ..:y,����t� ^:t`'`.. \ lis',`, s ti ' .�,/'r- .•Sa.{a��n41- ••.^"' � j "j '+3!'.:`• T Tv-` ` tK. 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Z.F:.as• - A _ 4W 1�1 nu. fi".t , �• '�"s,7 u�{fr/.%. ��w'f+••'Zi+: f ..., �. -n!�� Application -for- Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 South Lafayette Boulevard Mailing address: 227 West Jefferson Blvd - South Bend IN 46601-1830 Phone: 219-235-9798 Fax: 219-235-9578. e-mail: historic@michiana.org A Certified Local Government OFFICE USE ONLY»»»DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX«««OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received 7— 9 2002 Application Number: 2002- 0-709' Past Reviews: ❑ ,YES (DATEOFLAS7REVIE"' ❑ NO Staff Approval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: ❑ Local Landmark ❑National Landmark ❑ National Register District 1Na a ): Local Historic District (Nam,): Certificate of Appropriateness: ❑ Denied ❑ Tabled ❑ Sent To Committee ❑ Approved and issued 2002 Address of Property for proposed work: % 0 � 7 M 12-slb tZ �fc. /'SrnerNanbc andSrnnNa,n� City I/ 7/-t � `�� nOwner's Phone No:� � �✓r %{�_ Name of Property Owner(s):,rmNn fes( 0 /'114-N Address of Property Owner: I D 6 % R I l l Pz S(b 6/2 Contractor(s) Name: S'CU V 9 L G r� M Contract Company Name: <<C�\/`(C� Contractor Address: vZo23 % 7��/LJS 21J City: Contractor's Phone No: a % ) — q,�-W G } Current Use of Building: .. .. (Single Family - btuLd-Family - Commercial - Go—mad - Industrial- Vacant - etc Type of Building Construction: (Wand Frame - Brick -Stone - Sted - Concete - Other) Proposed Work: ❑ Inkind ❑ Landscape ❑ New ❑ Replacement(nat;n-kind) (more than me boz may be checked) ❑ Demolition Description of Proposed Work: C �N<< iLhlGtE I=T - 1 -FI t.-Gt KI 7 T�flS i l /('1 rz • J— ' lri0 e/ L hi j— t l,<—fi t o /Li�46t 1 T I T, C 1414 I N N 1 �C �' r,- /-j C, F Lr--l7-1-f SL67rzS .F TyIS 1S oe0 -7D71,-idLfz b0i,IN p4kT or. 71fz :., F 4c-fz- 7a lS 17'l2U/ I-% F' -/ TUI C,tft 1 N- �(/Yl< S GC O er/Contracto Fax: e-mail: �ffice will coespondi my one designee) rl Wor ignature of Owner // Signature of Contractor APPLIVCATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE. I Application - for - Certificate of Appropriateness Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 125 South Lafayette Boulevard Mailing address: 227 West Jefferson Blvd - South Bend IN 46601-1830 Phone: 219-235-9798 Fax: 219-235-9578 e-mail: historic@tnichiana.org A Certified Local Government OFFICE USE ONLY»»»DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX«««OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received —�� 2002 Application Number. 2002- 0%// Past Reviews:r ❑ YES (DATEOFL9STREl?EWl ❑ NO StaffApproval authorized by: Title: Historic Commission Review Date: ❑ Local Landmark ❑ National Landmark ❑ National Register District (x—,): Local Historic District (Nam,): O Certificate of Appropriateness: ❑ Denied ❑ Tabled ❑ Sent To Committee ❑ Approved and issued 2002 i Address of Property for proposed work: 13?joZ Eti5� Wk—lV{c S+' Srn � Number o+d So-eer NaneJ ' City : �QJj-IA 13c�d Owner's Phone No: 25x`1 Name of Property Owner(s):rFRINn < ��f. z 4���t/ ` K+ 1�7 �✓i � Address of Property Owner At, A1+nJc Contractor(s) Name: 3J_A,., VA,d A,41 Contract Company Name: SD�,� �_/o✓ol C��,r✓cf��l Contractor Address: -) r; 9 clS e_, 12' 2 City: �o�tln i3c� d Contractor's Phone No: a 3 2 — a012 Current_UseofBuilding: (Single Family - Nulti-Family = Coentnerdal- Govaement-Industrial - Vacant -etc.. Type of Building Construction: W, o fir. w,c ¢ ! -+q4 P (Wood Frame - Brick -Stone -Steel - Con�ete�Otha) Proposed Work: ❑ Inkind ❑ Landscape ElE New Keplacement(norin-kind) (more than one box may be checked) . ❑ Demolition Description of Proposed Work: P, rP j, drrvcwvy - ./1�✓\NCP J -'✓)4 [I c�+ 1-,/,�O�oW i.✓cIIS 1/ TO fryl.cc ���-,►�)Id �,,✓/�„f wc11c C71,rs Is »ot vrsr6l� �'�+ S�rz�cf� Owner/Contractor: Fax: /1 e-mail: (This office will cor pond ml only one dengneeJ �� &/or Signature of Own Signature of Contractor APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED ON REVERSE SIDE. MAY -13-2002 12:38 HP1 JUHN WPKD UUNUKLIL 41,11 zliz zolz 41Je4hOVY 'y P P. 03 MAY -13-2002 i i r 12:37 PM JOHN WARD CONCRETE 219 262 2012 PROPOSAL JOHN WARD CONCRETE, INC, Residential & Commercial Flatwojrk, Walls & Excavation 25295 STATE ROAD 2 SOUTH BEND, IN 4661.9 574-232-2012 (Phone) 574-232-5456 (Fax) PROPOSAL SUBMITTED TO: CffR 8/K9LLY CRAFT DATE: 05/13/02 STREET: 1332 EAST WAYN.E STREET CITY, STATE AND ZIP'CODE: SOUTH -BEND, IN 46615 TELEPHONE NO: 574-289-7989 FAX: 574-2933402 WORK: 574-293-3677 We hereby propw to lumilth malcriala and lshor nmzwry for the complation of: PEAR OUT AND REMOVL FRONT PORCH AND STEP, SIDEWALK ANT) DRIVRWAY .SAW CLrr CITY SIDLWM.K AND REMOVR APPRtIX FOUR SECTIONS TEAR OUT AND REMOVE CITY APPROACH AND SAW CUT CURD A7' hACH SIDE RF;PLACF NLW 6' x 4' FRONT PORCH - ONF, 4' STEP — S v \nIc Vt 4 Jc L,/1 ✓�n7 �� WIDEN FRONTSIDEWALK AT PORCH AND FLARE O(TI FO DRIVEWAY . NEW DRIVEWAY TO BF I7' WIDK x 33' LONG NEW CITY WALK AND APPROACH TO BE SAME WIDTH AS Pr.:R CITY STANDARDS ALL CONCRETE 4" THICK WIWIREMESH FRONT PORCH ANIS WALK'IY) DE RK: IARRED TO FOUNDATION 44l" EXPANSION WHERE DRIVE MF:I::TS GARAGE FI OOR AND CITY WALK HAND TOOL CONTROI. JOINTS LIOHT BROOM FINISH - LIMESTONF MIX PROVIDE AND INSTAL. ,TWO 24"GALVANIZED WINDOW WELLS ALL DEBRI$ TO HF. REMOVED TOTAL X4,270.00 N(YiT: FOR AN ADDITIONAL 200 SQ FT SIDU PARKING AREA, ADD $640.00 TO PROPOSAI- WE PROPOSE; hereby to fttrnlah matrrlala att4 14bor - ciomplete In accurdmlee with thR above. gWdficatimu, 1Pf the tum of: Four Thuusunil `Itiru Hundred Seventy unit 001100 dollgirs ($ 4.270.00 } All rrurtetiat Is guaranteed to be as sptxllfed. All woek to be completed tri it substantial workumnllku autnner accordtng to ap"Mratktns snhmittod, per standard pr+wticeit. Any alteration or 4eviallun froin above spac[Ccatforts invotvfng C11" COMA will be ciecuted uaiy of oro writttat oidcm -md WJI hca-mne an cstrst cturge over and above the esttmatc. All agreements comtingelit upon strikes, accldritts or dclkiyir beyond our control. Owner to carry fire, tornado and other necessary Insurance. Our woriucrs tire. IbIly covered by NYorktrren's Compensation Insurance. AuthoriudRlpnatnrrt! --- (Yate: This Proposal may he withdraws by us if not accepted wtf)in 30 days. TERMS ARE ONB-IIALF MOWN (2,.135.00) WITII BALANCE D11F. UPON COMPLETION OF JOB. A FINANCE (-IIARGF, ()F 1-112116 PER MONTH (18% PER ANNUM) WH,I. RE ADDY.0 TO AIA, PAST DUE ACCOUNTS. C.'OI.j,YX-TION FEES, COURT' COSTS, AND ATTORNEY F YES WIIA, DE THtr RESM)NSIDELITY OF THE CUSTOMER. CUSTOMER SHALL INSPFk'T'THR GOODS ANDIOR SERVICES SUPPLIED UNDER THIS AGItERMENT IMMEDIA'i EXY UPON DELIVRRY ANVIOR COMPLETION. CUSTOMER'S FA;LURE TO GIVE N(YFICE OF ANY CLAIM WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OP DELTVF.RY ANDA)RC'OMPLETION SHALL EX)NSTTTUTY,, AN UNQUAI'ArIErD A(Y'NPTAN(7E OF SU( -.'R GOODS AND A WAIVER OF ALL CLAIMS OF ANY KIND WITH RESPECT THERZTO. ACCEPTANCE OF PROPOSAL - The above prices. xpecifitcaiiomt and cuudtttons are satts&cto y and art hereby accepted. Yen are authorised to du the-ork as specified. Payment will be made res ewtilutd above. Date of aceeptnnoe; Hiptature 61puture ..... . . . . . 14; r� 1820 Portage. North side, July 12, 2002 pm -, Unt UP- ��•t,,s'..t "a.;."` - .:.rte--=,�;w`^ ;'�`'. ,--:'.s- ' :,� _ra _ q,,. - „ Front, right side. 200 block Navarre St. looking to the East. July 11, 2002 On Navarre St. looking to the South. tAl ,m Addition to South side of home. July 14, 2002 Same addition. _.....-.. - - -- Vii: - — .-•- ..-� t- ; .• - ��'�.`'�'^. -.fit _ _. 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CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS 1. 2002-0607; 1402, 1404, & 1406 Lincolnway East, South Bend KAREN HAMMOND NASH: Last month the Commission approved the portion of the application relating to leveling of the foundation, and repair of the chimney, and approved the removal of the artificial stone siding, and the installation of replacement siding, provided that the replacement siding be matched to the original wood siding that would be revealed when the artificial stone siding was removed. The Commission tabled until this meeting two remaining parts of the application as follows: 1. Application to rc-sidc other than the portion as covered by the artificial stone, :vhich is concrete. 2. Replacement of the windows in the house, including the one that is boarded up. As to those, the stafl'recommends approval of replacement siding exhibiting the same reveal as that originally found on the front, or oldest, part of the house. Mr. Shafer I— proposes to install new vinyl siding over the top of the existing asphalt siding, which was placed on top of the original wtwd The asphalt is most seriously deteriorated There is some existing vinyl, the artificial stone previously mentioned, and possibly also some aluminon. GERALD UJDAK: Is the Petitioner here? KAREN HAMMOND NASH: He is not. He called me this afternoon to say that he had been detained out of town and would not be able to be here. GERALD UJDAK: All right, Tom, we can then proceed without him, correct? THOMAS BODNAR: Oh yes. JOHN OXIAN: I still go back to my own original proposal that the artificial stone be removed. Unless he goes back to the original wood siding, the vinyl siding should be exactly the same width as the original wood siding, and should be put over the artificial or asbestos or whatever you want to call it siding. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: That recommendation that the siding on the entire house match the siding on the original front, was communicated to Mr. Shafer and he understands and communicated his agreement JOHN OXIAN: Somebody wants to second my ---- MA I HA CHOl l Z: i am not sure 1 understood the motion, frankly. GERALD UJDAK: State the motion again, please. JOHN OXIAN: I want the artificial stone siding removers. MARTHA CHOITZ: Which is where actually? JOHN OXIAN: In front of the house. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: The house originally had a front porch, and when the porch was removed., the siding was put on the front walls that had been adjacent to the original 1860 porch. GERALD UJDAK: Oh, I see, look, Joann, there is a small, small area on the first floor. JOHN OXIAN: I want that remo-,ted, unless the gentleman goes back to the original wood siding, thari I want him to cover the rest of the asphalt siding with the same width as the original wood siding. MARTHA CHOITZ: And do we know what that is? Z JOHN OXIAN: Not yet, but he has to take out a piece and find out what it is. Then that will be the width of siding he should put on, bid, in vinyl siding. KARF,N UAMMOND NASH: Actually last month, the Commission already approved the removal of the artificial stone, with the installation of siding over the remaining portion of the house remaining being tabled. My understanding is that it was tabled because Mr. Shafer was not to be here then either. We then didn't know whether we had his agreement that the vinyl siding be the same reveal as the original reveal, and he has connnwnicated to me his agreement on that pointy We still don't know what the original reveal is; because he was waiting until all of these matters were resolved before removing the artificial stone. . GERALD UJDAK: Most likely this reveal is probably a four inch siding. Is vinyl siding made in a four inch? KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: It is made in double four. The actual piece is eight, but the reveal is four. JOANN SPORLEDER: I will second the motion, just so we can talk about it. JOANN SPORLEDER: I think when you say the original siding; you are talking about the original wood siding? JOHN OXIAN: Right. Whatever the xvidth of the siding underneath is, Joann. JOANN SPORLEDERj There is a possibility it could be any number of kinds of siding. If it is some of the ship -lap siding, which was also often used on thatstyle house, it is impossible to replicate that; they just don't do that type of siding in vinyl. There's also the possibility thatwhatever the original siding was, it might be the two-inch siding which is not obtainable in vinyl. You can get something close, like three-inch— the double three-inch Is there hurry about, is he trying to do it in this year's building season? KAREN HAMMONDNASH: Yes, he is. He's running under a couple of pressures: First, he would like to do it during this year's building season. Second, lie is the executor of an estate that has the dubious lionor of being the longest open estate in the entire history of SL Joseph County. Ile would like to close it, and the transfer of property requires bringing it up to code. MARY JANE CHASE: Last month you talked aboa removing the stone; and not the asphalt, and then putting on the vinyl siding. We thought that this might be too thick for going around the windows. It might also go on the frames of the windows. So I think we talked about; with the asphalt, there are two reasons that it could cause damage ---First, if 3 there's moisture in some of the bad wood underneath it could cause deterioration. Second, it could be thicker than the window frames. GERALD UJDAK: Mary Joie, Mary Jane, they have so much siding on that house now-, they will end up having to put---- JOANN SPORLEDER: J -channeling around it. GERRY UJDAK: There won't even be enough—they're going to have to build a frame house, and then put the J -channel because; otherwise, there will be leaks all over the place. MARY JANE CHASE: Well, that is what the point is in removing the asphalt. We're asking him to replace something without removing the asphalt first. JOHN OXIAN: Do you know what the cost is going to be? Because, then you bring in the Environmental Impact; that's when you bring in all .minds of environmental regulations. MARY JANE CHASE: I know, John, the point is we need to be aware of that possibility for those windows. JOHN OXIAN: I know, right, but the reason I ha -w gone this route; is because, of the asbestos, and because of all the environmental problems it is going to create if he has to remove all of that. That would be— GERALD UJDAK: John, the asphalt siding, I doubt if it had asbestos, it had a wood fiber in it. KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Many of them did have asbestos; but, Mr. Shaffer's understanding is this one does not. GERALD UJDAK: It is a wood fiber, it may have even been manufactured right here in South $end. KAREN HAMMOND-NASH. The challenge -with removing it is not that there would be an especially hazardous waste issue; but, that there would be so much of it, that the tipping fee for dumping it would be significant. GERALD UJDAK: The use of asbestos for that type of siding would probably have been more expensive than the use of wood fiber. So, I doubt if this is asbestos. Yes, there is asbestos siding, though. MARTHA CHOITZ: Something like this is going to cost anyway, this is something you all should really wonder about. Another dung for you to wonder about is, having the ,shadow lines back on the moldings; that is going to cost you money. I know--- a y JOANN SPORLEDER: Are they going to ask him to do that? Because, quite frankly, it. looks like to me that when this asbestos siding, or whatever this stuff was called, asphalt siding, was put on; that the trim around the windows, and all the trim work underneath the eaves, has either been removed or covered up, So, what. would have been, in my opinion, the original cornice work over the windows, most likely, and the barge board or fascia -board that would have gone around underneath the eaves is no longer there. If you were expecting to do something more significant with the windows which were already seriously compromised, I don't see any point in getting into a big hassle about it. GERRY UDJAK: Well you are the author of the motion. JOANN SPORLEDER: I think if we are going to allow the vinyl siding, then we should allow the vinyl siding; quite frankly, that seems like a good approach. If he can't figure out how to get it done properly, because of all of these things, then he will just have to come back to us and we will have to figure out something else. But, I think you are wise to suggest that at least the narrow, or what would be the appropriate width of siding for that style of house. But, might have been the original; but, if it happens to be that shift - board, or whatever that siding is called, there is no way they can replace that. KAREN HAMMOND-NA.SH: So, if I understand this motion, it's that we approve the removal of the stone, and approve leaving the rest of the asphalt siding at the owner's option, and that the entire house be sided in vinyl, matched as closely as possible to the reveal of the original siding. JOHN OXh N: That's right_ JOANN SPORLEDER: I had seconded that motion. GERALD UJDAK: Any other comments? All those in favor say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carries unanimously. GERALD UJDAK: Ok, next part, windows. KAREN FLA& IOND-HASH: Mr. Schafer proposes to replace all of the windows in the house, including the one that has b"boarded up for approximately 15 years; with replacement vinyl windows. There are twenty-six windows. Mr. Schaffer has been in touch -with a manufacturer's representative and a contractor regarding the replacement of the windows. Mr. Schaffer has been given an estimate. Additionally the manufacturer of the windows has sent some color brochures and samplcs of availablc trim colors. The manufacturcr of the windows informs me that this manufacturer does not have any stock windows or any standard size windows. Their standard method of operation is they get the measurements and they build to suit. The windows are extremely thick, the panes are approximately an inch thick. Their photos would seem to indicate that they have, however, the appearance of ordinary windows. There are a variety of mutton -style available. The manufacturer says those are routinely W custom made. Staff therefore recommends approving the replacement of all the windows in the house; providing the following conditions are met: 1. That the sizes and shapes of the original window openings be preserved, and the windows sized to fit the entire opening_ 2. That all the windows on the front portion of the house, or visible from Lincolnway East, should be one -pane over one -pane, or two -panes over two -panes. 3. All the portions of the window sashes or frames be visible from the exterior, including any storm or screen windows, be colored as described in the manufacturing brochure submitted with this application. 4. There should be an exterior trim fame of the same breadth as the existing windows; Which, I estimate, to be between four and five inches, around the sides and top of each window. If this cannot be done by exposing the original frame, then it should be done by installation of new exterior trim, stained or painted in a color of the owner's choice. Staff is aware that vinyl replacement windows are not routinely approved. However, in this case, several of the existing windows are already vinyl, and those that are wood are covered with mill -finished aluminum storm windows. JOHN OXIAN: So which one of these are you helping him to decide to have? [Examining manufacturer's samples provided.] KAREN HAMMOND NASH: I believe that his proposal was plain white. Not the wood grain; but, just a plain flat white. JOHN OXIAN: Is he going to use white vinyl siding? KAREN HAMMOND NASH: I have not spoken with him about color, I do not Know. JOHN OXIAN: What color is he picking for his siding? I think we should have something to do with the color of his siding; and I think: we should have something to do with the color of his windows. I mean, you can come up with some ridiculous looking colors on siding, and you could come up with some ridiculous window colors; white like that. WAYNE DOOLITTLE: There is vinyl siding, they put a chimney on the exterior of the house and boxed it in the front with vinyl siding, you can see it in the bottom of the pictures. The color of the vinyl siding is white. MARTHA CHOITZ: If the vinyl windows are going to be white, than would suggest we urge him to get a soft color of some sort for the rest of the house, because matching white is not going to work. GERALD UJDAK: Let's leave that up to the staff to svork out. t KAREN HAMMOND-NA.SH: And the recommendation is that the windows be white with the siding being an off-white, or a soft color that is not too dark or too bright_ JOANN SPORT,RDF.R: I will make the motion. Someone come up with a motion that says what we need to have said, Torn, I am looking at you. I know that he can't make a motion; but, he can at least frame up the words to it. TOM BODNAR: That part of the motion which involves siding, I think the only thing that you said to change is the color. So as to the staff recommendation be approved with the exception of the windows shall be a soft white or a similar subdued color. JOANN SPORLEDER: I will make that motion that staff recommendations as stated on Item C be approved; with using a soft white for then color of the windows and a soft pastel color, not pink or blue, for the rest of the house. MARY JANE CHASE: I will second the motion. GERALD UJDAK: Is there any further discussion? If not, all those in favor say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carries unanimously. JOANN SPORLEDER: I move that the chimney repair be approved as it is stated in Item E, with the additional condition that the National Register and National Trust Standards be used for the mortar. JOHN OXIAN: I will second the motion. GERALD UJDAK: Any further discussion`? If not, all those in favor say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carries unanimously. GERALD UJDAK: Item number two. 2002-0705(b); 15 12 East Wayne Street; the planting of a couple maple trees. KAREN HAMMOND HASH: Dr. Wheeler has called tie this afternoon. She is in California at a medical conference. She had intended to leave early to get to this meeting but her plane was delayed, so she called me from the airport and asked the if it was necessary that she attend, and I told her no. I discussed with her the reaction of the city forester to her proposal. The city forester is in agreement with the applicant that one or two trees in this location of the tree lawn would be appropriate. However, the forester pointed out what is also said in our Guidclinc Book for Wayne Strcct Neighborhood, that most of the trees originally planted on Wayne Strut were trees that provided a higher rather than a lower shade canopy. The trees originally planted tended to branch out. at a higher level than the maple trees do. The forester indicated that his preference for this location consistent with the guidelines in the Wayne Street Booklet would be English Oak, Pin Oak, American Ash or disease resistant American Elm. However, it is the policy of both the Parks Department and the Historic Preservation Commission to give some considerable deference to the homeowner's preference. The recommendation of staff in this instance would be to approve the application. The application must also specify a list of four different species of trees, including the Sunset Maple that the owner proposed; but, also including tree+; that branch out not quite so low. Specifically, American Ash, disease resistant American Elm, English Oak, Pin Oak. JOHN OXIAN: I will make a motion for what you just stated. MARTHA CHOITZ: I second the motion. JOANN SPORLEDER: The only question I have, which apparently the forester has answered, there are no overhead wires here to be contended with. GERALD UJDAK: No, there are not. GERALD UJDAK: Are there any other comments or questions? Apparently not, ok, time for a vote. All those in favor say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carried unanimously. JOHN OXIAN: I have a question, Gerald. Last month we asked that legal action be taken against the contractor, involving Doctor Wheeler. Has a letter or anything been sent; since, we asked that the ACC in cooperation with the Building Department? I haven't seen any letter. KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Doctor Wheeler informed me that the contractor did receive a letter from the Building Department. JOHN OXIAN: Ok, then, what happened? KAREN HAMMOND NASH: The contractor said that pending legal action he wasn't going to talk to her anymore. It wasn't exactly a helpful response on his part, but, the Building Department got his attention. JOHN OXIAN: You lost me. What do you mean`? Whose attention did lie gel, the contractor's attention? KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: Apparently, the Building Department's attorney got the contractor's attention. JOHN OXIAN: So, what's going to happen then, nothing`? KAREN ILA1vlMOND NASH: Dr. Wheeler has cancelled her contract for the additional replacement windows and has hired a carpenter by the name of Charles Kirkpatrick to repair the remaining wood windows, rather than replace them. She has indicated to the contractor that she wants her wood windows back; and has been promised that she will PI get them back, apparently through the legal counsel. Her wood windows will be restored to her. I believe that when she assesses their condition, and talks to another contractor, she will either, restore the original wood windows to the front and live with the ones in the back, which are not as visible from the street, or she may seek replacement of all of them. GERALD UJDAK: Going on to item number three. 2002-0708; 909 Riverside Drive; demolish a wood frame garden house. Karen, fill us in. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: The garden house issue here is the ship4ap or Dutch lap potting shed type garden house that is in the comer of a very large formal garden. The garden has a nice view of the Saint Joseph River. This potting shed, garden house, when it was originally built, it was nicely designed and attracti-ve, a person working in it or sitting in front of it would have had a lovely panoramic view of the formal garden and the river. However, the present owners have not been able to keep up with its .maintenance. Our records have reflect that they have put $20,000 or $30,000 into repairs and partial replacement of the slate roof on their house; and a substantial amount of money put into repairing the replacement of the decorative stone walls in the front of their house. They have maintained most of their house beautifully; but, this garden shed has just completely gotten away from them. In normal circumstances, statf would say that this potting shed is a valuable, and even a character defining, or assist in being character defining element of the yard and garden and should be retained; however, our inspector's observation seems to indicate that it is dilapidated enough; that if we wanted to retain it we should have started some enforcement action earlier, an enforcement action indeed would have been difficult on a homeowner who would have done so much to heighten the rest of the property. So statY reluctantly and sorrowfully would consent to the owner's request to demolish the potting shed. JOHN OXIAN: I disagree. First of all this is a situation in which you allow this to happen; it is the same thing that happened at Oliver School. This is neglect by the property owner to purposely allow this to deteriorate. Now, just because she spent money to fix her roof or whatever else she did, fine and dandy, but, that has nothing to do with this. I don't know how long she has been the property owner there; I most likely wouldn't leave it on her, but, this is inexcusable. The excuse of saying that they spent money to fix the house up; and allowing something else to fall down is wrong, and it just doesn't add up. What you're doing is allowing something to --- GERALD UJDAK: Karen, do we have any idea ofhow long this current property owner has resided there? KAREN HAMMONDNASH: About ten years. GERALD UJDAK: It took more than ten years for this thing to rot. This has been rotting for probably forty years. JOHN OXIAN: I disagree with you there, Gerald. 7 GERALD UJDAK: Forty years, maybe even fifty years. JOANN SPORLEDER: Is this potting slued connected to anything? KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: No, it sits in the corner of the yard.; there's a fence running on either side of it JOANN SPORLEDER: Is it a back corner or—in this picture you can see the house back- there ackthere so what's happening? WAYNE DOOLITTLE: Actually that is the side of the alley; that is Dushane Court. The alley runs from the right to the lett; it is Dushane Court, it runs right across here. MARTHA CHOITZ: It's the tiny little narrow street that goes to that house. You can hardly see that house from anywhere else. JOANN SPORLEDER: I suggest [move] we table this until we have more information. One, I would like an opinion about the condition of the roof; especially those boards, it doesn't sound like all that serious a problem to me. GERALD UJDAK: Wayne, have you been there? Tell use your impression. WAYNE DOOLITTLE: The shed is in deplorable shape. GERALD UJDAKE: Is there termite damage? WAYNE DOOLITTEL: Not that I could tell. It is just age. It is so covered, the picture on the back taken from the yard, this is inside. You can't see it, because it is so overgrown with brush. I didn't venture any further than I did. This is the door to the side, this is inside the yard WAYEN DOOLrI7LE: There is so much poison ivy there, that I was too reluctant to go any closer in No, I ventured in about six feet and determined that there was more poison ivy than I really wanted to get into. You can't see it from the yard. Karen and I were discussing it, as gardeners, it is something we would love to have to work with; but, they're not home most of the time and so they wantto tear it down and put up a fence in its place. MARY JANE CHASE: Well, I am a gardener too, and I really don't think that I would want to work in that sort ofthin& WAYNE DOOLITTLE: The whole garden, the whole yard is overgrown and unattended. The whole back yard, so. 10 MARTHA CHOITZ: It used to be all in ivy. WAYNE DOOLITTLE: It used to be a very pretty garden. GERALD UJDAK: Now, it is full ofpoison ivy. WAYNE DOOLITTLE: They have a very large poison ivy or something growing up the tv tower. You first have to get to it,, you first have to get rid of all the debris or overgrowth that is there to get into it, to see what its going to look like for repair. The roof is overgrown, and the whole place is overgrown, except for the alley. JOHN OXIAN: I second the motion. [Joann's Motion. GERALD UJDAK: Any questions or comments? All those in favor of the motion say aye. All those against say nay. Ok, it gets tabled. GERALD UJDAK: Ok, item number four. 2002-0709; 1067 Riverside Drive; back yard fence. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: The homeowner here seeks to make a four -foot chain link fence two -feet taller, and make it a six-foot chain link fence. Staff has no particular problem with that; we recommend approval of that. He also seeks to put vinyl slats diagonally through the chain link fence to block the view of the alley from the house. The staff does have a problem with that because; of the experience with the vinyl slats in the fence tend to weather, to break, and to appear dirty. Staff, however, would be willing to recommend approval of placing wooden slates on a diagonal to the chain link; if that might be done—staff wouldn't recommend approval of those either, they also tend to look dirty, weathered, and to rot. If the first part of the application is granted, the homeowner in thatcase would wish to take down the six foot wooden privacy fence. Staff would always, as a matter of policy, reconunend approval of the removal of the six foot fence. An alternative proposal that staff would also be willing to approve, if it met the Homeowner purposes, would be to extend a post to the chain link fence up six feet and then run wooden fence between them rather than the chain lint:, if that would alter the viewing purposes. JOHN OXIAN: I will make a motion that your suggestion on the type of fence, with the black color, of the larger squares, with the inserts being straight up and down; and that they be of a metallic nature to match the color of the fence as close as possible. The removal of the wood fence and removal of the old four foot chain link fence. JOANN SPORLEDER: I second the motion. GERALD UJDAK: Any further discussion'? All those in favor say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carries unanimously. 11 GERALD UJDAK: Next item, number five. 2002-0711;1332 East Wayne Street, South; widen driveway. KAREN HAMMOND HASH: The applicants are seeking to replace an in kind concrete crumbling stoop and also are two earthen window wells with plastic covered over them; he wants to make those concrete and put grating over them. He also seeks to widen his driveway. The replacement of the deteriorated concrete stoop with a new concrete stoop with the same material, as of course, as something by itself can be automatically staff approved. Staff would also recommend approval of the concrete and iron grate window wells. That leaves the issue of widening the driveway. Staff reports that in the entire East Wayne District, almost every garage is a two -stall garage; and almost every driveway is a single width driveway. Those that are not single width, were originally single width and were widened mostly before the neighborhood became an historic district. Staff does not recommend approval of widening the driveway, for the reason that if too many driveways in the East Wayne District were widened the green and the rural appearing character of the neighborhood would be altered. The homeowner currently has a sixteen -foot garage door and a twelve -foot driveway. What the homeowner is seeking to do now, is to expand his twelve -foot driveway to a seventeen - foot driveway. He is seeking to add an additional five feet to his driveway. GERALD UJDAK: Somebody make a motion to -- JOHN OXIAN: I would like to make a motion that we table this until next month, when the applicant is here. I would then like to know his reason for widening the driveway, and why he wants to make the driveway wider than the garage door. KAREN-HAMMOND NASH: With the exception of widening the driveway, which is to be tabled until next month; is staff authorized to approve the rest of the recommendation? GERALD UJDAK: Is there a second to this motion? GERALD UJDAK: Ok. I will second the motion then. Ok, all those in favor then say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carried unanimously. GERALD UJDAK: Ok, the last one. 2002-0115; 215 Hammond Court, install primacy fence. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: This is an amendment of an earlier application. The applicant applied in January to install a six-foot dog-eared top cedar fence around his back yard. At that time the back yard had an open picket fence across the backyard. The commission had a special meeting at which they considered the application. The difficulty with the application was that there was already an existing six-foot tall privacy fence on either side of the back yard. The Building Department's, Jim Marco, indicated to me that the department does not ordinarily approve of putting two solid fences back to back to one another; on account of the difficulties that it gives to the maintenance. He stated that when this is done, it becomes impossible to maintain either fence. He lQ suggested that usually the alternative was that the neighbors agree on one fence. The neighbors then would have to decide who the fence belongs to, and if one of them will maintain the fence; or they will both share in maintaining the fence_ The alternative solution would be to install the fences enough in from one another so that either a lawnmower or weed -whacker could be run in between them; so that both fences could be maintained. If that is planned to be done, Jim Marco, would have recommended putting the posts on the inside of the fence. The applicant indicated at the special meeting that his preference would be to take down the neighbor's fence which is dilapidated and to substitute her own. The commission granted her a Certificate of Appropriateness to install her own fence across the back of the back yard and across the front of the back- yard; ackyard; and to install her fence in place of the neighbors' fences on either side. This is conditional upon the commission receiving written approval from the neighbors for the removal of their fences and the installation of her fence. The neighbors didn't consent, so the commission simply approved the fence in the areas that were under the applicant's control. This matter was on the agenda in February, in case the applicant might wish to amend her application. She did not do this, sono action was taken in February. The applicant on Friday did amend her application seeking to install a dog-eared solid board privacy fence on either side of her backyard. Her fence would be far enough in from the other fences to allow for maintenance. She is also present. GERRY UJDAK: Please state your name? HEIDI THATCHER: Hi, my name is Heidi Thatcher, I would like it if you put the post on the inside of their fence, and that you put my fence on the inside of the yard, so that if any kind of maintenance needs to be done it will be easy to get to. There wouldn't be maintenance issues because I would have full access to the fence. If the fence is on the inside and however it deteriorates I would be right there. So, if there is any work to be done I don't have to go on the other side of the yard and I don't have to get between the posts; it's on the inside of my post on the inside of my yard. The problem is I have two large dogs, I have a German Shepard and a Black Labrador, and I love my dogs. My Black Labrador loves everybody; but, my German Shepard doesn't like everybody. The whole point is I want to get my fences up along the sides so that my dogs are my responsibility, I take care of them and so they don't become anybody else's problem. I also don't want my dogs to irritate the little girls next door. I can't let my dogs outside when the girls are outside, and that is not fair to either my dogs or the little girls next door. JOHN 4XIAN: I would go along with your putting up a fence under one condition; and that is that you leave enough room between your fence and your neighbor's fence so that you can go in between where you can repair your fence from either side. I would even make a motion to allow you to put up those two, but, you are still going to have to have some room between your property line and your fence so that you can go back there and do whatever you need to do. Usually the Building Department recommends at least a foot of space. 13 More discussion was held between Heidi Thatcher and the commission regarding where she will be installing her fence and the amount of space that will be left between her fence and her neighbors' fences. JOHN OXIAN: I will go back to it and make my motion that your Pence—you can put up the type of fence that you propose to install; but, that it be one foot in from your property line. For your sake, I would say go with his recommendation. JOHN OXAIN: I made the motion, who will second it? GERALD UJDAK: I will second the motion. GERALD UJDDAK: Are there any questions? Ok, all those in favor of the motion say aye, all those against say nay. Motion carries unanimously. GERALD UJDAK: Ok, we are done with the Certificates ofAppropriateness. JOHN OXIAN: I have one question under the C. of A.'s. What has happened with 1732 East Wayne Street, from last month? KAREN HAMMOND HASH: Remind me what the recommendations were? JOHN OXIAN: Recommend that they install vinyl siding, soffit and facade be denied or if the owners have information showing ---- KAREN HAMMOND-NASH: They have withdrawn their application. An expert from the Historic Landmarks Foundation went over to their house; and told them that everything easy and obvious had already been done. So it wasn't obvious where there was a Iack of ventilation or a moisture problem and it is recommended that they do some more serious and thorough research to trying and develop the source of the problem. After they have found out what the problem is, than they can come back here for a solution. JOHN OXIAN: Going to Local Landmarks; 130 Park Lane; the Junior League House. JOHN OXIAN: We at last have the consent ofMernorial Hospital. They gave it once and withdrew it, and now it's back again. I would like to have a motion to send it down to Council. GERALD UJDAK: I second that motion. JOHN OXIAN: Those in favor say aye. Those against say nay. Motion carried unanimously. JOHN OXIAN: Ok, under Local Landmarks these are all up for first reading. Virginia, I would like to assign you number five to follow up on that one with the Potawatomi Zoo. Iq That is the one we might have a problem and I would like you to be on top of that. I am going to put you on Landmarks Committee with me. 1 JOHN OXL4N: The other one I would like to go to is, Martha took a tour of 1820 Portage Avenue. I would like her to give a report on that MARTHA CHOITZ: Gave a report on her tour of 1820 Portage Avenue. Discussion was then held among Commission members about how the property was being presently taken care of by the owner the upcoming public auction that was going to be held on August 10`x' to sell the property at 1820 Portage Avenue; and the important historical value of the house and what steps should be taken to make it an historical landmark. JOHN OXIAN: Moving on to the appro4-al of the minutes. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: We moved too quickly to regular business. Hearing of the Visitors was moved up on the agenda because we knew that we were going to have a visitor, and we do have one. GERALD KLINE: I am here representing myself, as a resident of the West North Shore Historic District. I am here to ask you, as a government body, for your support and your assistance in resolving a problem property in our district. If you have not examined the property at 117 West North Shore Drive; I sincerely encourage you to do so. The property owners there have done nothing since they got the property. When they got it I can assure you the exterior was in mint condition; because, the prior owners had it painted whether it needed it or not on a regular schedule. It is now rotting the wood; you can see the results of lack of care everywhere. It's my opinion, which is shared by other people in the district. Actually, I think that if any of you had to live next door to such property; would be very concerned about your own property value. I for one, having lived in my home for thirty one years am not about to have something that would be bulldozed by the prior code enforcement officer. Receive no action whatsoever. If, as one of you has suggested, it is because of this owner, if he is the owner, and I am not sure he is, he is part of an old -boy network. I think it is time that you and I contact our networks, because, I intend to do just ihaL So, perhaps, Mr. Bodnar, you would be willing to explore fellow attorneys; and ask if this person is a part of an old -boy network, and, therefore; is not subject to the codes that every one of us is subject to. I would appreciate your checking; because, he is an attorney, according to the phone book. After listening to Gerald Kline, commission members had a lengthy conversation about the property Iocated at 117 West North Shore Drive:. The important points of that conversation are as follows 1. Who are the present owners of the property? 2. The past and present condition of the stated property, and the constant lack of .maintenance to the property by the owners. 15 3. Past and present action being taken by Code Enforcement towards the owners for the condition of their property. . 4. What possible future steps can be taken by the commission to assist in making stupe the owners continue to maintain their property according to the guideline:, that have been established for home that are located in historical neighborhoods and districts. After the commission had completed their lengthy discussion; John O,xian then proceeded to inform Gerald Kline that he would be getting a letter and a copy of the petition this week regarding the property at 117 West North Shore Drive. JOHN OXIAN: Going back: to approval of the minutes; does anybody have any additions or corrections to the minutes? The May minute are only partially completed, the rest of it will be completed by next month. The other thing I would like to do is have Tom read the minutes and tell me how much of this he thinks should be shortened; so that the person that is transcribing the minutes doesn't put down every word that is said. JOHN OXIAN: Will someone make a motion to approve the minutes? GERALD UJDAK: I will make a motion to approve the minutes. VIRGINIA O'HAIR: Seconds the motion. JOHN OXIAN: All those in favor say aye. All those against say nay. Motion carries unanimously. JOHN OXIAN: Staff reports, back: to you Karen. KAREN HAIv1MOND HASH: In regards to the correspondence with phone calls and letters regarding 117 West North Shore Drive, I think the commission is adequately informed on this matter. I.U.S.B. Art and Architecture class commences August 2. Dr. Cunningham's art and architecture class is going to be studying methods for doing architectural surveys. The class will be doing an architectural survey on a portion of the proposed National Registry of Historic District of LaSalle Street. JOHN OXIAN: Regardingl246 East Jefferson Boulevard, has a letter been sent to this individual for all the wort: that has been done without a C. of A.? I see you dropped one of, has he or she sent the application back? KAREN HAMMOND NASH: We have not rceci-m1 an application. JOHN OXIAN: Well, I think—we should wait another week and then we should send a letter stating that if you do not respond then we will be taking appropriate action. Now going to the one at 325 Sunnyside that has missing iron work, this one should also be receiving a letter unless you dropped off a C. of A. stating that we want the iron work /6 to be restored to their proper locations where they were removed from. If this is not dune then we will take the appropriate action. Now this one back here, on 23 what is going on with this one? Is this a state highway putting in an access road or who is? Is this the one we gave permission for? KAREN HAMMOND NASH: We were expecting to receive an application to remove two large sycamore or catalpa trees from the front of faire house, which is a local landmark. We in fact did receive an application; but, it was then ,withdrawn. We are expecting that it will be resubmitted for at least the removal of one of those sycamore trees. Discussion was held among commission members regarding the access road on 23, and the application that was submitted for the removal of a least one or two of the sycamore or catalpa trees in front of a farm house that is presently a local landmark. JOHN OXIAN: Do not give staff approval for the removal of the two sycamore or catalpa trees. Inform them that this is a local landmark area and that they have to come in and get approval from the commission first before or if any action will be taken on this matter. Regarding the matter with Franklin Street; I would still like to have legal action taken against the people across the street, since nothing is being done on Franklin Street. They have violated their C. of A., it has expired everything else. I feel the same situation is happening there as is happening on West North Shore Drive. They still have not put any railings on the porch. They are currently violating all the rules and regulations. I would Iike to see legal action taken as soon as possible. JOHN OXIAN: Let's go to the legal report on the PANA Settlement Proposal. A discussion was held among commission member: regarding the past and present information on the PANA Settlement Proposal. Commission members also discussed what has been done already and what is currently being done to settle this matter. JOHN OXIAN: Going an to number four of the staff= reports. KAREN HAMIVIGND HASH: Intern's report regarding the proposed German Township Historic District. We received an additional twenty-eight signatures added to the original petition. The challenge in dealing with this is while some of the houses are farm houses from the late eighteen and early nineteen hundreds, most of the older houses have been significantly altered and many of the signatures are from people who own much newer houses. So determining a period of historic significance and determining a rational set of boundarics for the district is going to be an interesting talent. The other matter of Indian burial mounds; the person from the department of archaeology, who had hoped to come the first of this month and do a survey, was not able to come after all. I am hoping we can schedule him to come at some later date. Diane actually has access to a ----- 17 DIANE WROBEL-ILLES: It is a large abstract that shows eighty acres of cemetery/burial grounds. It is dated in a tiny map on the bottom. It is extensive reading, and I have not read all of it, but, there are some things that I did note and my friend is being so good as to copy it and give it to us tomorrow. JOHN OXIAN: What I want to do is put that into the District Committee, since most of the work has been done. The only thing I think: you should do now is do a district with an historical aspect of who were property owners of this area, We have made landmarks that didn't rate, because, certain people lived there. That could also be a part of the reason to set up a historic district or to even make landmarks. I thunk- we should, if need be, it could be like a multiple resource district, which we could do. There are many ditlerent ways of doing a district. I think since a lot of the work has been done, now is the time for you, Martha, to go ahead and try and do this. Let's see how close these properties are, and if they are all connected then we can just go with a regular historic district or otherwise if the houses are spread out too much then we will have to go with a multiple resource district. Aller John had finished his comments, there was further discussion between commission members on the matter of the proposed German Township Historic District. JOHN OXIAN: Let me give you the committee assignments. On the Budget and Finance Committee I am still keeping Mary Jane Chase as Treasurer and Chairman, and Gerald Ujdak, and I, John Oxian, are still on that committee also. On the Executive Committee we already know who is on that committee. On the Historic District Committee, Martha Choitz is Chairman, and Catherine Hosteler is Vice -Chairman, and Mary Jane Chase and Diane Wrobel-Illes are also on this committee. If you do not want to be on the committee please tell me. We already know who is on Landmarks Committee, the two of us. Gerald Ujdak and I, John Ox ian, are on the Legal Committee. 61 Southhold Awards Committee, Martha is Chairman, Mary Jane Chase, Catherine Hosteler, Virginia O'Hair are also on this committee. (I am changing the position of Chairman from Martha Choitz to Virginia O'Hare. On Standard and Maintenance Committee Catherine Hosteler is Chairman, Martha Choitz, Joann Sporleder, and Gerald Ujdak are on that committee. JOHN OXIAN: Is there anything under new business? KAREN HAMMOND NASH: I simply gave each commissioner a copy of the proposed restoration plan for the Oliver Street Pumping Station. It's not a landmark, it's not a district, but, they sought our input and as you can see the principal change they want to make is to drop the window sills below the present stone sills. JOHN OXIAN: I also found a picture which shows -,%fiat the building originally looked like when it was first built. KAREN HAMMOND NASH: Fort Wayne is going to be hosting a two-day symposium on George Kessler design historic landscapes. Aller Kessler worked for South Bend, he was hired to do a similar park and boulevard system in Fort Wayne; which, Fart Wayne is in the process of restoring.. It will be September e and 9", which is this Sunday and Monday. WAYNE TX-)OI IT`i"f .R: The Chapin Park Garden Walk i, this Saturday- MARTHA CHC}ITZ: Wednesday, July 20' is the museum's Art and Architecture tour of the facilica and the museum. The tour stats at 4:30 pm. KAP HAMMOND NASH: Mary Jane Chase raised the question of the photograph of the Narvarre Street that's in the meeting packet. An issue has been raised regarding the legality of angle parking in the city and apparently someone caused that problem because there is angle parking on Narv-arre. MARTHA CHOITZ: I move to adjourn the meeting. GERALD UDJAK: I second the motion. Meeting adjourned at 10:04 P. 19