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Home My WebLink AboutSeptember 1999AGENDA OF THE AUGUST 1999 MONTHLY MEETING of the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION 7th Floor County -City Building County Commissioners Conference Room Monday, September 20, 1999 7:30 PM 1. Call to Order II.Public Hearing A. Certificates of Appropriateness 1. 1999-0902 - 1608 Devon Circle, window replacement, etc. 2. 1999-0910 - 1307 E. Wayne St. No., window replacement. 111. Regular Business A. Approval of Minutes (May, June, July 19 8L 26, August) B. Treasurer's Report (see attachment) C. Correspondence D. Committee Reports 1. Historic Districts 2. Historic Landmarks a. 302 W. Washington, Peoples Church, 1 st reading 3. Standards and Maintenance a. 549 River Ave - greenhouse b. 1130 E. Wayne - addition c. 713 LaSalle - porch 8L fire exit E. Staff Reports 1. C of A Staff Approvals (none) 2. Legal 3. Miscellaneous activities 8L Grants VI. Old Business 1. 1999-0518 - 803 N. Notre Dame 2. Commission member still needed for IUSB Fest 9/25/99 V. New Business 1. The director requires a vote to allow him to travel to Indianapolis on September 21 st-22nd and to attend the Cornelius O'Brien Conference from 9/23/99-9/26/99 VI. Hearing if Visitors VII. Announcements and Miscellaneous Matters VIII. Adjournment HPC Meeting September 20, 1999 Please sign your name, address and telephone number. Take an agenda. Welcome ............................... . 1 i M VfU o,,4,,63'�,.�e -330122 cher e i2�%. Z $ �i - .�3,i1 2 U vt K -V -F='! .ST. x. 235;- 27Cy 4. 0 6 Xn c -k swa wank 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Application Number: Property Location: 1999-00902 1608 Devon Circle Property Owner: Wellington & Andrea Jones Landmark or District Designation: LL Rating: S/11 Survey Number: 141-59-37261 Key Number: STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT Andrew C. Weisburg, owner and manager of the Oliver Hotel Corporation, purchased lots 19, 20 and 21 of the Jefferson Heights Addition in December of 1924. The Jefferson Hieghts Addition was eventually replatted, becoming the Tuxedo Park Addition, which instituted a $20,000.00 building minimum. Mr. Weisburg hired popular architect, Ernest W. Young, to design this house for them which the resided in until 1935, at which time it was sold to Ivar Henning. Mr. Henning was the president of the South Bend Bait Company. Ivar resided in this house until his death in 1950 at which time the property was inherited by his wife, Helen. Mrs. Henning continued to live there until 1954 when she sold the house to the South Bend Osteopathic Hospital, Inc. The hospital converted the house into offices for its staff, and continued to utilize the house until 1975. The hospital began a large expansion program in 1975 which placed the house in jeopardy, however, the hospital was able to find a buyer for the building who was willing to move the house from its existing location. The house was sold to Thomas G. Podell, a local bricklayer and subcontractor for $1,800.00. Mr. Podell purchased lots eight and nine of of Devon Place and subsequently moved the house to those lots in 1976. Mr. Podell sold the house to the current owners, Wellington and Andrea Jones, in 1978. PROPOSED CHANGE(S) The Applicant wishes to replace six double hung windows with Pella aluminum clad casement windows with custom muttin pattern, installation of a range hood vent, installation of two condenser units, addition of electrical lines and the installation of gable roof vents. REFERENCE TO GOVERNING STANDARDS: Restoration: Rehabilitation: Xa The Preservation Guidelines for Local Landmarks: Group `B" Standards C. Renovations C.2. Construction and Style All work should be done in the architectural style and in a technique compatible with that of the original structure. Change that alters, removes, or covers existing significant stylistic detail shall not be permitted. A change which adds detail of another style will not be permitted. C.3. Material Additions and improvements involving any new material in the landmark should be of the same material as the original. It should be the same size and texture. An alternative material may be allowed if it duplicates the original. 2 RECOMMENDATION The owners are proposing to make various alterations to the property at 1608 Devon Circle, thus, the staff finds it easier to make recommendations one issue at a time. 1. The owner proposes to replace existing double hung window located on the west elevation, see photos one and two lower right window, with a Pella aluminum clad window with custom muttin pattern of two wide and four high. The proposed replacement window will not alter the existing window opening, however, it will not be identical to the original muttin pattern of six over six. The staff finds the proposed replacement window to be acceptable as a very close alternative to the existing window which is not easily visible from the street. The staff recommends approval of the replacement of the first story west elevation kitchen window as seen in photos one and two. 2. The owner proposes to install a 3/14" x12" range hood vent to the west elevation, 3' to 4' left of kitchen window. The staff finds the proposed vent to be acceptable since it will be painted to match the existing siding and will not be very visible from the street. The staff recommends approval of the proposed range hood vent. 3. The owner proposes to replace five double window units with Pella aluminum clad insulated glass windows each with custom muttin patterns. Four of the windows are currently leaded glass formed into a diamond pattern, which the owner is proposing to replace with the above mentioned Pella windows. Each would contain custom wood muttins designed to match the existing diamond patterns. They are also proposing to replace a set of windows located in the peak of the east elevation which currently has a non -original wood muttin diamond pattern. The staff recommends approval of the replacement of the non -original window located in the upper gable, east elevation, (see picture five). However, the staff has some trepidations about the proposed replacement for the four leaded glass windows. One set is a prominent feature of the front facade of the house and is very visible from the street. The owner is proposing to make the wood muttins as thin as possible to get as close as possible to the existing pattern as well as to paint the wood to resemble the lead. The staff has doubts about the appearance of the proposed wood muttins and wishes to not make a recommendation until after the Commission discusses this issue. 4. The owner is proposing to replace an existing double hung window, as seen in picture number six on the second level, with a Pella casement window with matching muttin pattern. The staff recommends approval of the replacement of the existing double hung with the proposed Pella aluminum casement window with matching muttin pattern. 3 RECOMMENDATION 5. The owner proposes to install two condenser units in the rear of the house. The staff recommends approval of the installation of two condenser units in the rear yard, set behind the bushes seen in picture number four. 6. The owner proposes to run electrical conduit and condensate line from the basement up the rear exterior to the attic. They will hide the lines by covering them with a wood box painted to match the siding which will be hidden behind the existing downspout. The staff finds the proposed installation of conduit, condensate line and cover box to be acceptable and recommends approval. 7. The owner proposes to install gable end vent fans with lowered gable vent intakes in all of the peeks. The contractor has assured the staff that the proposed vents will be roughly half the size of the one in picture 10. The staff recommends approval of the installation of the vents in the two gables with brown siding. The staff does not recommend approval of installation of the vents in the front gable or the lower east side gable, both, of which contain stucco and half timbers. In order to install the vents a portion of the half timbers would either have to be removed or covered over, thus, altering a significant stylistic detail of the house. Specifically the lower gable on the east side of the house has a wood carving or finial located at the very peak of the gable, see photo number 13. The staff feels that the owner may be able to work out a compromise for the front gable, but, does not believe a vent can be installed into the lower east gable without removing significant details. 0 Van Overberghe Builders, Inc. General and Carpentry Contractors 53922 01ive Road South Bend, Indiana 46628 Phone (219) 289-0341 Fax (219) 289-1408 Page 1 of 2 S.4.. , L. 2, 1999 To: Hstoical C.ormission of St. Joseph County Re: 1608 Devon Circle South Benc( Indana Our company has contracted with the arulers of said property to ccrYplde three ircjects to said property subjecttothe accA ,.. r-,bGons and approved bythe Hstorical Commission. Project 1- l4tchen Rernodel The H. J ldchen remodel caAs for the sink to be moved from is eDdsting location to below the window on the west elevations (see picture nunber one &-qtr bottom right wind*. This window is cura* a double hungwindow and because if is ager; is in need of replacing UIQ are proposing to replace this windowwwth a Pella aluminum clad,.=--�=,,mxwindow with acustan muffin pattern. The custon pattern isto match an e.>dsting muffin pattern in picture number three. This window faces the front of the house and has been replaced with approval from your office dx t two years ago. Furthermore, picture number one and ton also shams aw indowthat has been previously replaced (see upper right doubleWnd*. Thiswindow also has the same custom muttin pattern as picture numt)er three The edericr himwill match the eDdsting. The house sets at the ourve of a horseshoe street, and because of the anile ofthe housa; thewest elevations is not realty visible from the street (see picture number eigtt). Becausethe process ofreplacingthewindows has previously been approved we ask fcryour approval to replace thiswindow in the above mentioned process` We are also asking to install a 3114" x 17 range hood vent to west elevations. This vent will allow the cook top to be vented to the ekericr. The hood will be painted to match sidng (see picture number nine). The hoodwill be placed apprmdmately 3 to4' left ofthe Kichenwindo w and about T higher. Project 2 Project two consists of replacing five double window ur is two upper units on the east elevation, one ulpper urns on the north elevation avid two upper units on the south elevation. These windahs can be seen on pictures nuftxx four, five, and six The upper right window unit an nurrtx r Rxr and the upper left tow window units of number five have leaded glass formed in a damrnd patten (see picture number seven). We are proposing to build custom wood muttins to match this pattern. The upper left window unit in picture number five has a wood nxttin that does not match the original. M ere proposing to change thisto nrlatcl the a dsting The upper left window in numbs far will be changed with alike window and mxttin pettem to match pattern shown in picture number four. The upperright window unit in picture number six will be replaced Wth a .. =. L window with a custom multin pattern as shawl in picture number far. Thiswind3w is now a double hung. All windows will be finished on the eDderio to m e ch a fisting AU units will be Pella alurrinum clad with insulated glass` Van Overberghe Builders, Inc. General and Carpentry Contractors 53922 Olive Road South Bend, Indiana 46628 Phone (219) 289-0341 Fax (219) 289-1408 Project 3 Page 2 of 2 Prcject ntmtxy three consists of installing air condtioningto the er&e house. We are asking a nurrber of tanswith this prcject. Wei will be inlstalling two air handers- one in the I.a i and one in the attic space. TherePae, we will need two condEnser units in the rear of the house They will set behind the bush in lower left caner of picture nunnber four. We will need to run an electrical lain and conduit Ines from the Y up the rear ekerior of the house and into the attic. This is proposed to be done by renes ing a dmuispout, running the lines to the attic, then coning Ines with a wood bcK installing the doomspo t over the box (see picture numbs four). We will need to install a gable end vent fan with lowered gable vent intakes in all the peeks of the house (see picture numbs five, eight and ten). This is deeded in order to rerrxve the emess heat built up during the summer months. These ventsWU be painted to match the easting surfaces in color. Atherrnoetat located in the attic will control the fan. Thankyou for considering our proposal. I will be avAlable at the meeting Monday September 2Q 1999 at 7:00 p.m to answer any gaesticnsyou may have. ThankYal, Timotiiy Van QABrbaghe Project Manager h�K+^ ti� � F * 1. • ♦. Y. f.�l. rIwo '� r -• .ladc�r."l INN K,, 2 At _/" �` l :��/ .. 11 t 4 •w+� tit 'j • . •�i +!• 1�0� \1 ere& c-.nc.6\L 4 at-� . E)CW)W' ve,-A- STAFF REPORT CONCERNING APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS Application Number: Property Location: Property Owner: 1999-0910 1307 East Wayne Street North Pam Bickel Landmark or District Designation: Rating: C/9 EW-LHD Key Number: 18-6105-3736 Survey Number: 141-57187-5-597 STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT Developers, Whitcomb and Keller, built this H.R. Stapp designed house in 1928, selling it to Nelson and Clarissa Ault in 1929. Mr. Ault worked at the Roper Furniture Company in Mishawaka until he began his own photo business in 1919, Ault Camera Shop. Nelson Ault was a master photo finisher with two store locations, one at 309 S. Michigan and the other at 122 S. Main Street. Mr. & Mrs. Ault resided at this residence until 1937 when they sold it to Sigmund and Bessie Welber. Mr. Welber was born in Hungary, immigrating to the United States in 1908. He and his brother, William, owned and operated several department stores in Ohio and New Jersey prior to purchasing the Robertsons Brothers Department Store from the George Roberston Estate in 1932. Sigmund Welber held many managerial positions in the company until his brother died in 1947 at which time he took over his position as president. Mr. Welber resided here until 1943 when he sold the house to William and Jewel Reitz. Mr.Reitz was a tool engineer and later a sales engineer for the South Bend Tool and Die Company. Mr. & Mrs. Reitz lived in this house until 1992 when they sold the property to Todd Livingston. Mr. Livingston sold the house to the current owner, Pamela Bickel, in 1999. PROPOSED CHANGE(S) The Applicant wishes to remove nine windows and replace them with custom Pella windows. REFERENCE TO GOVERNING STANDARDS: Restoration: Rehabilitation: The Preservation Guidelines for East Wavne street Local Historic District: b)... The Guidelines for the East Wayne Street District follow the Rehabilitation Model... II. Existing Structure C. Windows and Doors II.C. Prohibited Original doors, windows and hardware shall not be discarded when they can be restored and re- used in place. Inappropriate new window and door features such as aluminum insulating glass combinations that require removal of the original windows and doors shall not be installed. RECOMMENDATION The owner is proposing to replace nine windows through out the home with Pella aluminum clad, double hung, insulated glass windows that a previous owner had begun to install, without a Certificate of Appropriateness. The present owner wants to use the same windows (see photos) with muttin patterns that will match the originals. The staff finds the replacement windows to be acceptable as long as the muttin patterns match the originals, including the attic windows which have a division of six, the staff recommends approval. 2 +,.� � .,.tiµ., Jr". ,, ux. • 4-�+'' M _. •�"�-�# .; + �^= T' �*Y .,{ [�r'�s M'�Yr'^k"•^�},�,��'•�' y"yi•��. •fit a"Y �.'�d '+��k ` M • Y ✓ 14 .,, tom' " � `�f�a ` ,�ti,.�!`•� ��tF� .i lr.l�at{ to t > • `. I LJ Ii � J a' 3 o � 9 s7�Jlna�p� /i d.J 1a/Q)J4 .M "M - I to 4l So�Tf11:� APPLICATION `AMM SS,UNfgf FOR �"�\,�,M,� a o H CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS a yN 1865 Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County 227 West Jefferson Blvd - RM 1123 — South Bend IN 46601 Phone: 219-235-9798 Fax: 219-235-9578 e-mail: historic@michiana.org A Certified Local Government OFFICE USE ONLY»»»DO NOT COMPLETE ANY ENTRIES CONTAINED IN THIS BOX«««OFFICE USE ONLY Date Received Past Cases: YES ❑ (date of last case) Zoning Type: Signature of Administrative Person if Approved by Staff. Historic Commission Review Date: ❑ Approved ❑ Denied ❑ Sent To Committe Date Certificate Issued: ❑ Local Landmark ❑ Name of Historic District: Address of Proposed Environmental Change: City, Name of Property Owner(s): Address of Property Owner: Contractor(s) Name: Contract Company Name: Contractor's Telephone Number: Current Use of Building: (Print) Application Number NO ❑ Lot Size ❑ National Register Listed Township: (Street Number and Street Name) (Vacant - Single Family - Multi -Family - Commercial - Government - etc.) Type of Building Construction: (Wood Frame - Brick - Stone - Steel - Concrete - Other) Proposed Work: ❑ New ❑ Building Addition ❑ Landscape ❑ Demolition (Completion of Seperate Form Also Required forThis) Description of Proposed Work: Signature of Owner Signature of Contractor INDIANA UNIVERSITY SOUTH BEND September 14, 1999 J. Edward Talley Historic Preservation Commission County -City Building, Room 1123 South Bend, IN 46601 Dear Mr. Talley: OFFICE OF This letter is to confirm your participation in the third annual Volunteer COM141umw LINKS Fair, which will take place at NSB on Saturday, September 25, from 12 Administration Building noon to 3 p.m. I'm very excited about the Volunteer Fair this year ® because it will take place the same day as IUSB Fest. Post Office Box 7111 The IUSB Fest will attract several thousandcam eo le to us because of P P P NT�B the numerous and wide variety of events happening throughout the day. Too, we've opened up the Fair to the entire community. An advertisement X6634-7111 will run in the South Bend Tribune the week before the Volunteer Fair (including Sunday) announcing the event and encouraging everyone in Michiana to take advantage of the opportunity to learn what they can do to make their community a better place in which to live. We will provide tablecloths, table signs and name tags. The Fair will take place in Wiekamp Hall (on Mishawaka Avenue across from Potawatomi Park). I would advise that you park in the parking garage adjacent to the building as two walks and a parade will be taking place that morning originating from or across the street from our campus and parking elsewhere could be a challenge. You can register and set up as early as 11:00 a.m. We ask that you have your tabled manned the entire three hours as I've gone to great lengths to publish Fair hours — we don't want to miss anyone who is interested in volunteering! Light refreshments will be provided. If you haven any other questions, please give us a call or e-mail me at qiordan(a�.iusb.edu. I look forward to seeing you on the 15a' and invite you to come early and stay late to participate in other things that are happening on campus that day. 219-237-6543 Fax: 219-239-5002 Sincerely, 6 Administration Building 1700 \lishawaka Avenue Pamela S. Jordan Post Office Box 7111 Director ---i Bend, Indiana X6634-7111 219-237-6543 Fax: 219-239-5002 MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING of the HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION Monthly Meeting 7:30 p.m. Monday, August 30, 1999 Corrected 10/4/99 County Commissioner's Conference Room 7th Floor County -City Building I. Call to Order John Oxian, president of the commission, brought the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. II. Roll Call Commission members present were: John Oxian, Catherine Hostetler, Ron Zmylso, Adrian Fine, Kari Gallagher and Richard Helmus. Commission staff present was: Ed Talley, Director, Rhonda Saunders, Assistant Director and Aladean DeRose, consul. Also attending the meeting were: Sue Spink, Greg Trytko, Jennifer Moorehead, David Tribble and David Hoath. III. Public Hearing A. Certificate of Appropriateness Applications 1. 1999-0518 - 803 Notre Dame Ave., fountain rehabilitation Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. He also noted that the project leader, Ms. Moorehead, was present. Ms. Moorehead stated that during the initial investigation of the project it was discovered that the fountain and park were actually located on a different piece of property than the firehouse. The firehouse is located in the Sorin Addition and the park is located in the Hudson Addition, which has caused the city to require the Northeast Neighborhood Center to obtain a separate lease for the park. Ms. Moorehead also noted that because of city concerns the council has decided to rehabilitate the fountain, without making it operational. She further noted that the Northeast Center wants only to rehabilitate the fountain and add the benches to the park at this particular time and will possibly add the proposed foliage at a later date. Mr. Oxian asked if the proposed fence would be erected now. Ms. Moorehead stated that the fence would not be put up now, the only thing being proposed for immediate work is the fountain and the benches. Mrs. DeRose asked who the actual owner of the property is. Ms. Moorehead stated that the City holds the title to the land. Mrs. DeRose asked if the City had approved the proposed work. Ms. Moorehead stated that Pam Meyer was okay with proposed project, however, she has referred the project to their legal department. Mrs. DeRose stated that the Commission could not vote on the application without written approval from the owner. Corrected 10/04/99 Ms. Moorehead asked if the Commission could give approval with the condition that the Northeast Neighborhood Center gets a signed lease from the City. Ms. DeRose stated that the Commission could approve the application in principal only. Ms. Gallagher stated that the Commission could give verbal feed back to Ms. Moorehead so she would not have to come back to answer questions next month when the application comes before the Commission again. Mrs. DeRose again stated that the Commission could not give a Certificate of Appropriateness to anyone but the owner. Mr. Oxian stated that the next Commission meeting will be in two weeks. Ms. Moorehead stated that she would make sure that Mrs. DeRose would receive a copy of the signed lease by the Historic Preservation Commission's next meeting. Mrs. Hostetler moved to give preliminary approval to the application until owner approval has been obtained. Mrs. Gallagher seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 2. 1999-0721 - 1501 East Wayne, landscaping. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. He also noted that the owner, Mr. Axelberg, was present with his designer. Mr. Fine stated that he had met with the owner to discuss the project. He went on to note that there were two areas of concern, one, the hedgerow and two, the -type of material proposed for the rear yard fence. Mr. Axelberg noted that the reason the project has been proposed is to give their daughter a safe play area. He also noted that they would like to install a wrought iron gate between the brick pillars located between the house and garage and that he would like to install a black coated chain link fence from the sunroom to the rear property line and hide it with plantings and shrubs. Mr. Fine stated that since the proposed fence sight was so visible from the street that a different, more decorative, fence may be more appropriate. Mr. Oxian asked what type of changes were being proposed for the driveway. Mr. Axelberg stated that currently the driveway is a straight shot onto Twyckenham Street. He further noted that adding a turn around and shifting the path of the driveway would make getting out onto Twyckenham safer. Mr. Axelberg asked if the other concern was the solid hedgerow. Mr. Fine stated that East Wayne Streets requirements for open flowing lawns might be in conflict with the proposed hedgerow. There was some discussion over where the hedgerow would go. Mr. Axelberg stated that it would start at the rear property line and go to the corner of East Wayne and Twyckenham, cut across the front of the house to the driveway and continue north from the other side of the driveway. Mr. Oxian recommended that the fence and the hedge be approved, stating that the hedge would hide the fence. Mr. Axelberg noted that a higher hedge would be located next to the fence to hide it and give privacy to the proposed patio. He further noted that a lower hedgerow would be used around the property line to lower sound pollution. Mr. Axelberg asked if a prefabricated storage barn could be placed in the farthest northeast corner of the property. Mrs. Hostetler asked if it would be temporary structure. Mrs. Gallagher asked if a foundation would be laid for it. Mr. Axelberg stated that no foundation would be laid, thus, making the shed a temporary structure. Mr. Fine stated that plans for the shed would have to be submitted to the Commission. 2 Corrected 8/27/99 Mr. Oxian moved to approve the curved driveway and turnaround, the installation of a hedgerow from the driveway to the corner of Twyckenham and East Wayne then to the end of the property line, the erection of a black coated chain link fence from rear of house to property line, the erection of a storage shed in the farthest northeast corner with final details approved by the director, the installation of a brick patio with blue limestone retaining wall, a hedgerow around -part of patio for privacy and the installation of one wrought iron gate in the arch pillars between the house and garage. Mrs. Gallagher seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 3. 1999-0728 - 1636 Lincolnway West, sign, door and windows. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. Mr. Talley noted that the owner was not present. He also noted that a permit was issued by the Building Department for the signs with out the Commissions approval. He further stated that the owner had also replaced a damaged exterior door with out a permit. Mr. Oxian noted that the owner had erected two free standing signs, one on the east side and one on the west side of the building. He further noted that the recovering of the windows would be an improvement over the existing damaged metal covers. Mrs. Hostetler moved to approve the application as recommended by staff with the addition of a second sign that was also erected with out a Certificate of Appropriateness. Mr. Helmus seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. He further noted that the owner, Ms. Spink, was present with her contractor. Mrs. Gallagher asked what type of foundation would be installed for the greenhouse. The contractor stated that it would depend on what type of foundation the Building Department requires for such a structure. The contractor also noted that the green house would be constructed of wood timbers, but, the type of roof had not yet been decided upon. There was some discussion over if the greenhouse roof would attach to the house above a window located in the affected wall. Ms. Spink stated that she would like to make the roof gambrel in style so it would attach above the window to allow future plans of removing the window and replacing it with sliding glass doors. Mr. Talley noted that what the owner had submitted to the staff and what they presented to the Commission were two different projects. Mr. Oxian stated that since there are areas within this project that have not been solidified. Mr. Zmyslo stated that a full set of plans with all of the construction details is still needed before he could approve the application. He went on to explain why it is so important that the Commission receive the detailed plans. Mr. Zmyslo moved to give the application tentative approval and place it into the Standards and Maintenance Committee for final approval of the details. Mrs. Hostetler seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 3 5. 1999-0805 - 1130 East Wayne, rear addition. Mr. Talley presented the staff report. He noted that the owner, Stephan Fredman, was present with his designer. The designer gave a presentation describing various aspects of the proposed addition, including the reuse of any brick that would be removed from the house. Mr. Oxian asked what the owner intended to do with the brick located on the exterior of an existing unfinished rear porch. The designer stated that the brick would be used as a wainscotting on the new addition. Mr. Oxian asked if the addition was going to be taller then the existing house. The designer stated that some alterations were made to the plans to lower the addition so that it is in scale with the rest of the house. Mrs. Gallagher asked if the east side view and front view of the house would change. The designer stated that the views would not change, in fact they are only tearing down the porch and extending it five feet. Mr. Fine noted that the concept was acceptable, however, there was a lot information missing from this application and thus it should be placed into committee. There was some discussion over what type of windows were being proposed for the addition. Mr. Zmyslo also expressed concern over the lack of details included with this application. Mr. Oxian suggested that the application be tentatively approved with the final details to be approved by the Standards and Maintenance Committee. Mr. Fine moved to give tentative approval to the application with the final details to be approved by the Standards and Maintenance Committee. Ms. Gallagher seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 6. 1999-0806 - 713 LaSalle, rear porch and fire exit. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. He noted that the owner, Naomi Cassifer, was present. Mr. Oxian stated that the finials should be removed from the porch posts. Ms. Cassifer stated that the finials would not be on the porch posts. She further noted that she had not seen the sketches that were submitted by her contractor. Mr. Oxian asked what was going to be used for the deck of the roof. Ms. Cassifer stated that it currently had a rubber roof. Mr. Zmyslo stated that according to the drawings a wood deck would be erected on top of the existing rear porch roof with the weight of the deck on the porches outer walls. There was some discussion over the fact that the wood deck would have a slight over hang. Mr. Talley noted that a new rubber roof would not with stand people walking on it so a wood deck would protect the roof and allow the addition of a railing. Mr. Zmylso again stated that the applicant had not submitted enough information concerning the size of the deck, stairs, posts, materials and how the structure would be attached to the house. Mr. Oxian suggested that the application be placed into committee. Mr. Zmyslo moved to place the application into the Standards and Maintenance Committee with tentative approval to the over all concept. Mrs. Gallagher seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 7. 1999-0807 - 524 North St. Joseph, demolition. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. He also noted that, Rita Kopczynski, head of the Near Northwest Neighborhood Association, was present as well as a structural engineer. Mr. Talley stated that this application was a resubmittion of a denied request made at last months meeting. 4 Corrected 10/4/99 Ms. Kopczynski gave a presentation outlining the fact that the association would take a great loss if it rehabilitated this property. She further noted that many of the foundation problems were caused by improper soils and would be extremely costly to repair. Mr. Oxian asked if the figures for the appraisals of the houses took into consideration all repairs. Ms. Kopczynski stated that the appraisals did include repair of the houses and were given to the association by their construction manager. The structural engineer gave a presentation concerning the deterioration of the house. He emphasized the deterioration of the south foundation wall and the fact that it was moving inward, which is seriously jeopardizing the entire structure. He further noted that the floor joists were running the wrong way and were heavily supported by a center chimney which is currently sinking into the soft soil beneath it also causing the house to sag. He noted that this could be corrected by lifting the chimney and giving it a more solid foundation or by leaving the chimney alone and supporting the house through other means. He stated that there is noway the house would sell as it stands today with out addressing the deterioration of the foundation. Mr. Oxian asked how many support beams are currently supporting the house other then the chimney. The engineer stated that the house rests on the exterior foundation walls, the chimney and one interior foundation wall which runs part of the width of the house. He further noted that as the house settled the owners had installed a couple of jacks for further support. Mr. Zmyslo asked if the house was lifted and new foundations poured would the existing soils located under the house be able to support the structure or would the same problem occur again. The engineer stated that the soil was a definitc.;probjem alai that he would recommen4,thAA soil engineer inspect the soil to determine if the soils could support the weight of a house before addressing other problems. There was discussion over the soil problems under the house. The engineer stated that a soil engineer would probably recommend that all of the foundation be removed and new soil be placed under it. Mr. Oxian asked how much of the foundation should be replaced. The engineer stated that the entire south wall would need to be replaced as well as installing new footings for the chimney. He further noted that the major difficulty with this type of work is that it has to be done under an existing structure. There was some discussion over the figures submitted by Ms. Kopczynski. Mr. Oxian stated that according to Ms. Kopczynski's figures it would cost at least $25,000.00 to repair the houses major structural faults. The engineer stated that he felt this figure was low for the necessary work. He noted that he would place the figure closer to $35,000.00. Mrs. Gallagher stated that she would have to abstain from the vote because of her husbands position with house owner, Memorial Hospital. Mrs. Hostetler asked how much money Memorial Hospital was planning to contribute to this project. Ms. Kopczynski stated that the Hospital was contributing $125,000.00. Mrs. Hostetler asked why Memorial Hospital had capped the project. Ms. Kopczynski stated that the hospital did not cap the project, ect, the Near Northwest Neighborhood Association only asked the hospital for $125,000.00 and the hospital agreed to supply it. There was some discussion over the regulations concerning demolition in the City's Preservation Plan. Mr. Oxian noted that the Commission should follow these procedures and regulations. He also noted that the Council Attorney uses the State Preservation Law in regards to demolition and thus the Commission should also use these regulations in making their decision. 5 Corrected 10/4/99 Mrs. DeRose noted that the Commission does not follow the State Statute because the Commission was in existence prior to 1977 and thus the Council Attorney cannot use the statute. There was some discussion over the fact that if the Commission likes the State Statute then the Commission should amend the Preservation Plan to adopt it by ordinance. Mr. Talley noted that he has been investigating new options for he new Preservation Plan. There was some discussion over the fact that the current demolition requirements are much more stringent then the State Statute. There was some more discussion over the fact that the Commission left the door open for re -submittal because the denial was made based upon the lack of information. Mr. Fine stated that it was a denial clearly based on the fact that there was not enough information, which would allow Ms. Kopczynski to submit a new application. Mr. Talley stated that the staff was under the opinion that the Commission had denied the application, but, would entertain the subject again with more information. He then read pieces of the minutes from the July meeting. Mrs. Gallagher stated that a motion would have to be made to alter the Preservation Plan either allowing or not allowing applicants who have been denied to resubmit. There was some discussion over whether or not rehabilitation is economically feasible and whether or not the owner purposely ran the property down. ms. Kopczynski stated that memorial Hospital was not responsible fore the foundation damage caused by bad soil. There was some discussion over the fact that the wealth of the owner does not necessarily make the project economically feasible. Mrs. DeRose asked the engineer if a new house was placed on the site would it experience the same problems. The engineer stated that the design of the existing house was incorrect for the soil located at this sight, causing the deterioration. Mrs. DeRose stated that since the house was designed and constructed wrong the deterioration was then no fault of Memorial Hospital. She further noted that the commission should make tonights vote their final decision to give the applicant time to appeal. Mr. Zmyslo asked if the applications were the same of different. Mrs. Saunders stated that the applications were different. Mr. Zmyslo stated that since the major part of deterioration was due to soil problems then it was not the fault of the owner and that the cost of rehabilitation would make the project economically unfeasible. There was some discussion over at what point a project becomes economically unfeasible. Mr. Zmyslo further noted that if the house was rehabilitated someone, whether it be the current owner or a future owner, would take a large loss. There was some discussion over the affect removal of this house would have on the streetscape. Mrs. DeRose asked what the plans for the land would be if demolition was approved. Mrs. Kopczynski stated that once the house is demolished the land would be marketed with the house next door as a yard. She further noted that the lot is not big enough to install another house on. Mr. Fine asked if it would be feasible to stabilize the house, then sell it. Mrs. Kopczynski stated that there is still a considerable amount of interior and exterior damage which would leave a lot of sweat equity for any potential buyers. Mr. Zmyslo moved to approve demolition of the house, based on the presentation given by the engineer, the enormous level of deterioration, the enormous cost of rehabilitation, with the stipulation that the house be thoroughly documented with drawings and photographs of the interior and exterior prior to demolition. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed with Mrs. Gallagher abstaining. 6 8. 1999-0811 - 947 Riverside Drive, ice guard. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. He also noted that the owner, Dr. Tribble, was present and that the structure was erected prior to applying for an application. Dr. Tribble noted that the condenser unit was damaged by icicles last winter. Mr. Oxian asked if the structure would be permanent. Dr. Tribble stated that he initially intended the structure to be mobile, moving it to the back yard in the summer, however, the structure turned out to be too heavy. Mr. Oxian asked if there were no gutters on the house. Dr. Tribble noted that the house had a gambrel roof with gutters, however, the previous owner did not vent the soffits so there is no way to prevent icicles from forming. Mr. Fine moved to approve the application as a temporary structure until the roof can be properly repaired and the guard is no longer needed. Mrs. Hostetler seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 9. 1999-0812 - 710 Cushing, rear yard fence. Mr. Talley presented the staff report and circulated photographs. Mr. Zmyslo moved to approve the application. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. B. Proposed Local Landmark, 2nd reading 1. 14600 Adams Road - Harris Prairie Cemetery Mr. Talley presented the staff report. Mr. Oxian noted that he would like a listing of any veterans or historically significant individuals who are buried in this cemetery. The Commission moved to send the nomination to the County Council. III. Regular Business A. Minutes 1. May, June and July Mr. Oxian suggested the Commission members review the minutes and send the corrections to the staff so the Commission could vote on them at the next meeting. B. Treasurer's Report None. C. Correspondence None. D. Committee Reports 1. Historic Districts None. 2. Historic Landmarks None. 3. Standards and Maintenance Committee Mr. Fine noted that there were numerous applications referred to the committee which should not have been brought to the Commission until all required information had been presented. 7 Corrected 10/4/99 E. Staff Reports Mr. Talley noted that the Certificate of Appropriateness permit has been updated and soon the staff will also revise the application. Mrs. DeRose noted that she has sent down the revision regarding 701 E. Pennsylvania. Mr. Talley noted that he will attempt to complete the grant application for Save Americas Treasures by its September 1, 1999 deadline. Mr. Fine noted that the projects had to receive an official designation from Save Americas Treasures to be eligible for funds. Mr. Oxian noted that the Commission needs to come up with a project for next years grant. IV. Old Business Mr. Oxian noted that a stop work order has been placed on the house at 982 Riverside Drive. V. New Business 1. Budget 2000 Mr. Talley noted that the Executive Committee has approved the budget for 2000. He also noted that the County Commissioners were in favor of the proposed budget. Mr. Fine moved to approve the submitted budget. Mr. Zmyslo seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. Mr. Talley noted that the Commission members need to send letters of support to the County Council for the budget. 2. Permit Fee for CoWs Mr. Oxian stated that after numerous discussions with various City and County Officials he has decided that the Commission needs to increase the fees for Certificates of Appropriateness applications to $5.00 for Staff approved permits and $10.00 for large projects, like, additions. Mr. Oxian moved to increase the application fee from $3.00 to $5.00 and $10.00. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 3. New Deadline for CofA Applications Mr. Oxian reported that the existing application deadline does not allow the staff enough time to properly investigate applications. He stated that the commission needs to change the deadline from the first Friday of every month to the last Friday of every month for the succeeding month. Mrs. Hostetler moved to alter the application deadline for Certificate of Appropriateness applications from the first Friday of every month to the last Friday of every month for succeeding months meetings. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. 4. IUSB Fest 9/25/99 Mr. Talley noted that a Commission member is needed to man the Commissions booth at the Indiana University Volunteer Expo on September 25, 1999. He further noted that the Commission has already received two requests for internships for this fall. Mrs. Hostetler moved to approve the internships. Mr. Zmyslo seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously. VI. Hearing of Visitors Corrected 10/4/99 None. VII. Announcements and Miscellaneous Matters Mr. Zmyslo stated that the Commission would be receiving his resignation with in the next few weeks, because, his family is relocating to Indianapolis. VIII. Adjournment Mr. Oxian adjourned the meeting at 10:45pm. Passed by the Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend and St. Joseph County, Indiana, this day of '1999. BY: President Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend and St. Joseph County, Indiana t ATTEST: Secretary V X