HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 1997•
Regular monthly meeting
7:30 p.m.
Monday, March 17, 1997
AGENDA OF.THE REGULAR MEETING
of the
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
County Commissioner's
Conference Room
7th Floor County City Bldg.
1997-0304 - 1028 East Wayne Street (LL) - Gutter installation
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes
1. February 24, 1997
B. Treasurers Report
C. Correspondence
D. Committee Reports
1. Budget & Finance
2. Legal
3. Historic Districts
a. Project Access
4. Historic Landmarks
a. Status of recommendations to Common Council
1) 501 West Colfax
2) 513 Harrison Avenue
3) 1637 Lincolnway West
4) 804 N. Lafayette - Madison School
b. Bendix Woods National Register site
5. Standards & Maintenance
6. Preservation Week 1997
E. Staff Reports
1. C of A Staff Approvals
none
2. DHPA Grant status
a. Notification of listing for St. Casimir Parish National
Register Historic District
b. 1996-97
c.•1997-98
V. Old Business
A. 1202 Lincolnivay E. - COA application for demolition of carriage house
VI. New Business
VII. Hearing of Visitors
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
IX. Adjournment
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CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS STAFF REPORT
APPLICATION --1997-0304
• PROPERTY -- 1028 E. Wayne Street
South Bend, IN
OWNER -- Family Children's Center
DESIGNATION -- Local Landmark
RATING -- S/11
STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE/HISTORIC CONTEXT
Lot 2, Lister's Subdivision of,Cottrell's large lot 23 was purchased by Sorden
Lister in 1881, as part of a tax sale of lots 1-6. The following year Lister
erected this one and one-half story gable front cottage on this site, and a
similar house on the adjacent lot to the east. Lister used both of these
houses as income property. Sorden Lister belonged to one of the early pioneer
families in St. Joseph County, arriving from Delaware in the 1830's. He
served as a First ward councilman, and postmaster. He also operated a bootery
at 77 Michigan Street. In 1898, Lister sold the property to his daughter and'
son-in-law, Mr. & Mrs. Edwin C. McDonald for $1,000. McDonald, a prominent
South Bend photographer, sold -the house to William McHenry in 1913. The first
owner occupant of the house was Oliver S. Platt. The City Directories give no
indication of Platt's occupation. Apparently he was involved in real estate.
His name appears frequently in the deed indexes for real estate transactions
• throughout the teens and twenties.. Platt and his wife, Eliza bought the house
in 1923. They lived there until the late 1930's when Platt began to rent the
house. Gregory and Daniel Berry acquired the house in the 1970's. The home
was converted into a counseling center. This house was restored and
designated a landmark in 1980.,
PROPOSED CHANGE
The owner requests replacement of front porch gutters.
STANDARDS
The Preservation Guidelines for Local Landmarks state:
Group B Standards
B. Treatment
Treatment shall be defined as any change of surface materials that will not
alter the style or original form. Such improvements include reproofing,
glazing, or landscaping lawns and may involve a change that can potentially
enhance or detract from the character of the landmark.
C. Renovation and Additions
2. All work should be done in the architectural style and in a technique
compatible with that of the original structure. Change that alters, removes
or covers existing significant stylistic detail shall not be permitted.
RECOMMENDATION
In initial telephone contact with Staff, the applicant indicated that they
wished to install gutters at the front porch to prevent ice build-up on the
front steps which had presented a hazard. Staff determined from survey
photographs taken in 1988 that gutters had existed at that time and indicated
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS STAFF REPORT
that a Staff approval for in-kind replacement would be appropriate. However,
upon receiving the application and visiting the site it was discovered that no
gutters presently existed and a small pediment which historically had diverted
water from the area of the,steps was now missing. This led to a search of the
COA files. On November 21, 1991, a certificate of appropriateness was given to
Mr. John Palmer for reroofing the house. What was stated on the certificate
was "Replace roof to resemble original" with the exception of going from
T -shingle -to 3 -block shingle. Apparently, when the porch roof was then
reconstructed, the pediment was eliminated from the project leading to the
present drainage onto the steps. No gutters now exist at the porch. The roof
edge which appears to have' re -used or reproduced historical mouldings as
required in the previous COA has no gutter board or easy method for installing
one. The documentation for the 1991 COA is fairly extensive and the Agenda for
the December HPC meeting implies that the issue was referred to committee. It
may be that the Standards and Maintenance Committee verbalized permission to
eliminate the pediment without recording it to the file, but not such record
was found.
The staff recommends that the Owner replace the pediment that once was over
the porch entry. Study of the files for COA #1991-1121 does not indicate that
removal of the pediment feature was approved by the commission. This pediment
was not only decorative but directed the rain away from the area of the porch
steps. If the Owner desires to install gutters, half -round type troughs would
be the only type applicable without alteration of roof -edge and trim
conditions.
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
of the
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Monthly Meeting County Commissioner's
7:30 p.m. Conference Room
Monday February 24, 1997 7th Floor County—City Building
I. Call to Order
John Oxian, President of the commission,.brought the meeting to order at 7:30
p.m.
II. Roll Call
Commission members present were: Richard Bullene, Catherine Hostetler, John
Oxian, Janeanrie Petrass, J. Edward Talley, & Jerry Wiener.
Commission staff present were: David Duvall, Director, Melody VanZant,
Administrative Assistant and Aladean DeRose, Counsel.
Also attending the meeting were: Mrs. Peg Luecke, -Jim Jasiewicz, and Carl
Litrell.-
III. Public Hearing
A. Proposed Local Landmark Designation
• 1) 801 North Lafayette — Madison School
Mr. Duvall presented the staff report. Mrs. Luecke spoke both as a parent and
as a member of the Park Avenue Neighborhood Association. In this capacity, she.
worked closely with Hebard and Hebard Architects as a parent liaison to
Madison Renovation Committee in 1994, to come up with a. renovation plan, which
has been postponed by the South Bend Community School Corporation. She
believes the plan to be viable and worth while to declare as a Landmark as an
integral part of the neighborhood.
Mr. Jim Jasiewicz, Director of Buildings and Grounds for the South Bend
Schools, was concerned about air intakes being installed as per state code.
Holes would have to be cut into the buildings exterior in order to allow for
an air exchange which would change the looks of the building. His concern was
whether the commission would allow them to cut into the building, -provided
they take care to keep the color of the air intake the same as the interior so
as not to draw attention to the alteration of the exterior windows where these
intakes would be positioned. Mr. Jasiewicz stated that without the remodeling
as per code, then, the building would not be allowed to operate as a school.
Mr. Oxian acknowledged that the state law precedes the commissions decision,
and the commission, too, must abide by the state laws. Mr. Oxian, also
referred to Fred Holycross who dealt with this issue when he was director, and
who had a lot of input on this subject of permissible alterations to the
school. Mrs. Luecke was concerned about the commission being receptive to the
idea of a design addition in the inner center courtyard area which she felt
was needed along with the present courtyard, which she felt would help for
expanding classrooms and other facilities. Mr. Oxian stated that Fred
• Holycross had agreed to this idea earlier and he doubted that the commission
would over rule that idea now. Mr. Talley made the remark that the commission
would, in no way, wish to do anything that might cause the closure of that
school. Mr. Talley agreed with. Ms. Luecke that the school was an intrical
part of the neighborhood. Mr. Talley moved to recommend the Madison School as
a Local Landmark. Ms. Petrass seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously.
• B. Certificates of Appropriateness
1) Blanket COA for street identification and traffic control signs
Mr. Duvall read the Staff report and circulated photographs. Mr. Carl Litrell
presented the signs in question. Ms. DeRose stated that she was opposed to
handing out a blanket order for a COA. However, she felt that the ordinance
called for some flexibility .as long as there was a strict interpretation of
the ordinance. She stated that all markers that presently exist which may be
changed in the future could be identified under the 'COA, and that the COA make
it clear that there be no deviations from the signage currently being used.
Should such markers deviate from said COA, then, a new COA should be required.
Ms. DeRose stated that the traffic signs are a state issue. -An identification
of where they are presently located should be noted in case of future
replacement, in which case a new COA should be sought, but, as far as
installing new ones, that, again is an issue of the state. Mr. Duvall asked
Ms. DeRose about the duration of the COA. Ms. DeRose suggested that a new
blanket COA be requested annually, provided no changes be made from the
original COA, and that the renewed COA could be performed by Staff. Mr. Oxian
suggested a standards and maintenance committee to approve later requests
rather than having the whole committee involved every time a question comes up
or a request is made where approval must be met. The committee would be on
call for .any .questions and decisions to be- made. Mr. Litrell made a
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demonstration of how the street signs would be mounted on poles rather than
directly on the posts with metal bands which they are currently being mounted
on now. A UtChannel pole was used in the demonstration. Ms. DeRose asked
Mr. Litrell to identify every location, or potential location, where these new
poles would be placed. Two COA's were discussed. One for traffic control and
one for street signs. Mr. Talley stated that the new traffic control signs
were larger than the old signs. Mr. Oxian questioned whether the new traffic
control signs, when being replaced, would remain the same size they are now
(i.e. 12 x 18) or would they be the size of the new signs (i.e. 18 x 24).
Mr. Litrell stated that the low bidder makes the new signs, but, they are
going to become uniform. Ms. DeRose suggested giving the bidders parameters
on the signage to meet uniformity. Ms. DeRose asked to have a temporary COA
so that the few streets that need street names on them now could be placed on
"U" channels, temporarily. Mr. Oxian made a motion to have temporary approval
to put up the street signs on the "U" channel and that a committee be formed
to address all aspects of the blanket COA. Mr. Talley seconded the motion.
The vote was unanimous. Mr. Oxian and Mr. Talley will be on the sign
committee.
Mr. Litrell asked for permission to speak on another subject. He.reported on
the US 33 Michigan Street bridge over the river. The Indiana Department of
Transportation does an annual survey and every six years an underwater survey
for all bridges in its jurisdiction. 1994 report showed a bit of scour. 1996
report showed little or no difference so the Engineer was not concerned at
this time to replace the bridge, but suggested the bridge possibly be placed
on a replacement list in the next 15 years. Also, working with the Army Corps
of Engineers on erosion control for protection of public facilities, Mr.
• Litrell stated that Riverside from Vassar to Golden would be eligible and on
Northshore from Iroquois to approximately 500 feet to the west downstream.
Mr. Litrell continued to report on the condition of Ohio street. Mr. Litrell
noted that both brick and concrete were covering Ohio street. He stated that
the increased activity on the street does not match the condition of the
pavement. He said that he could not afford to brick the whole thing. The
curb on about half the sides (on both sides of the street) needs to be
replaced. Where the brick and asphalt meet, the material looks to be raveled.
Asphalt is the choice for covering the surface in order to provide 'a durable
surface for the new uses of the street. Mr. Oxian thanked Mr. Litrell for
this information and told him that the committee would. meet regarding the
signage issues real soon.
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes
1. February 3, 1997
Mr. Oxian noted that on page two,, second from bottom paragraph, the word
"Discreet" was questioned. Mr. Duvall suggested striking the word "discreet"
with Mr. Oxian's approval. Also, under COA, 521 River Ave, third sentence
from the end, regarding glass blocks. The sentence looks as though we have
approved glass blocks on basement windows. Mr. Oxian stated that we have
never approved glass blocks and asked Mr. Duvall to review' the tape. And,
under Historic Landmarks, last sentence, he noted that packets were sent to
developers — only letters were sent. Lastly, where "Mr. Oxian had indicated
where he had met with the attorney for the owner and had received assurance of
the Powerhouse".... should be stated "the owner of the former Oliver factory
Powerhouse", or the new owner's name should be stated. Going to "hearing of
visitors", Mr. Talley corrected Mr. Duvall's entry of 20" to 20'. On the list,.
of attendees, Ken Fedder's name should be added. Mr. Duvall asked anyone if
• they could recall who approved and seconded minutes. It was agreed that John
Borkowski made the motion and Adrian Fine seconded. Ms. Hostetler motioned
for the amended minutes be approved and Mr. Talley seconded the motion. The
motion passed unanimously.
B. Treasurer's Report
Mr. Wiener, treasure, stated that there was no report.
C. Correspondence
Mr. Duvall indicated that the commission had several pieces of correspondence
in: 1) namely one from Ken Fedder of Allen, Fedder, Herindine and Coles with
regard to Blake Gardens property, affirming their intention to create a
monument to that property, affixed to the remaining landscaping feature which
is still in place. 2) Tim Hernley, of Barnes and Thornburg, regarding Oliver
Powerhouse, affirmed their estimating cost to demolishing the powerhouse far
exceeds any benefit which might be derived therefrom, in the foreseeable
future, and therefore, there is no intention to pursuit demolition. 3) A
letter from Bill Derrah which provided a map of census tract and requested
identification of areas which are designated for Local Landmarks, Potential
Historic Districts and Proposed Historic Districts. Mr. Oxian suggested
reporting those properties that ranked 11, 12 and 13. He also stated
reporting the Conrail bridge over walnut. 4) The Park Avenue Neighborhood
regarding markers noting entry and exit of Park Avenue residence area.
5) Finally, Historic Landscape workshops are being held April 3 and 4 in
Memphis, TN., May 1 and 2 in Omaha, NE, and June 26 and 27 in Salt Lake City,
UT., sponsored by Alliance by Historic Landscape Preservation and The National
• Center for Preservation Technology and Training. Cost is minimal.
Correspondence out was the normal.
Mr. Talley requested a full engineer report on the wall intended to receive
the plaque for Blake Gardens in response to Mr. Fedder's letter. Mrs.
Hostetler felt they were evading the issue.
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D. Committee Reports
1. Budget & Finance
Mr. Oxian stated there was no business to report
3. Legal
There was no new legal report.
4. Historic'Districts
Status
Mrs. Hostetler reported that the Project Access meetings were scheduled to
resume March 18 at First United Methodist Church -at 7:00 p.m. for River Bend
Historic District. Also, for Lincolnway. East Historic District at Newman
Center on April 29 and 30.
5. Historic Landmarks
Status of Local Landmark Recommendations
Mr. Duvalt'reported he had sent a letter to the owner at 501 West Colfax
regarding his request to the Common Council to resume consideration as a
Historic Landmark. Mr., Oxian inquired about 513 Harrison Avenue and Mr.
Duvall stated it was on the last agenda of the Common Council for Area Plan
report. On 1631 Lincolnway West, Mr. Oxian states that the wife of the owner
has been spoken to and she relays messages to her husband. Mr. Oxian has yet
to hear from her husband.
6. Standards and Maintenance
Mr. Fine, chair, indicated he had no additional reports.
7. Mr. Oxian asked Mr. Duvall whether he has done anything regarding the Geyer
residence and Mr. Duvall indicated that he had sent formality letters to
Mr. Geyer but has -not heard any more about this case.
8. Preservation Week 1997
Mrs. Hostetler stated she had sent out letters to all people who are to be
involved, to meet March 12 at noon for lunch at the Probst House. There, it is
hoped,,that ideas can be shared. The theme this year is "Preservation Begins
At Home", in hopes that people will become involved within their community.
Perhaps the Mayor can do presentation awards at places like the State Theater;
having Historic District featured in newspapers, television; and historic
landmark identification just to name a few. Maybe having the' Hometown section
in the South Bend Tribune dedicated to the historic districts and the
significance of historical places in our area, were all ideas suggested by
Mrs. Hostetler..
E. Staff Reports
1) C of A Staff Approvals
a. Leeper Park had an approval for in-kind replacement of five trees, two were
Ginkos, two were Maple and one was a Tree of Heaven. Mr. Duvall stated that
the -Staff approved in-kind replacement of two Ginkos and two Maples but said
the Tree of Heaven was illegal and was not required to be replaced.
2) DHPA Grants
a) 1996-97
1. Regarding the DHPA Grant status, Mr. Duvall reported that consultant
contract agreements had finally been approved by the DHPA and these contracts
had been duly executed. The work is generally underway. Mr. Duvall has not
heard from the Leeper Park Nomination consultant as of yet, but the Westerly
Group has been in contact with us through correspondence.
The various small project such as the -Children's Dispensary, Colonial Gardens
District, the Wenger Farmhouse and the South Michigan District are all pretty
well underway, and he -expects to get the Wenger Farmhouse Nomination real
soon. Mr. Duvall had the opportunity to enter the Wenger Farmhouse building
with the code enforcement last week. The house is in rough condition, full of
trash along with historical material such as interior trim.
1997-1998 Grant
We have -received the letter of approval for the DHPA grant of 1997-1998. We
were the last to be approved. We asked for $20,000 to be funded but only
received $17,225.00.
DHPA Staff felt they needed to reduce the proposed work, and deleted the
county resurvey. The letter of approval was for republication of our
neighborhood guidelines, a preservation plan for Leeper Park and a National
Register Nomination for the St. Joseph County Infirmary. The DHPA indicated
that we could start our county survey bidding on township by township basis.
Mr. Talley wanted to know-how long this might take doing it their way. Mr.
Oxian said in his opinion it would be a waste of money and time. He felt the
survey should wait until the following year. Mr. Oxian has told Ms. VanZant
to take survey cards now and physically look at the landmarks in the county
and document what is there, what is not, etc., and that would be significant
for now, then do the survey later, all at one time.
V. Old Business
• Mr. Oxian stated that we received the National Register recognition for the
North Pumping Station which was brought up before the board of water works.
Mr. Oxian asked Mr. Duvall to see what it would cost to get a.plaque.
Mr. Oxian inquired about the propane gas tanks in Edgewater Place. Mr. Duvall
said he sent another letter to the owner stating he was sending a copy to our
legal staff to request preparation of a legal complaint. Ms. DeRose stated
that by the time there would be a hearing on an injunctive relief it would be
April or May. Mr. Talley stated that he understood that the tanks were there
only to give relief during the winter. Ms. DeRose said forceful removal
before the climate suggest they be removed would not happen.
Mr. Talley asked what the reply was from Economic Development for extension of
1997-1998 funds from Mr. Jon Hunt. Mr. Duvall stated he had sent a letter and
since had a telephone conversation in which he told Mr. Hunt that he would
need to speak with Mr. Oxian. Mr. Oxian had called Mr. Hunt and was waiting
for a reply.
Mr. Talley reported on the Madison Center meeting. He stated that the
proposed solution should reduce the noise was down by 50%, a baffle is to be
installed which would take another month and then the noise should be gone.
The neighbors were happy. Perhaps in another month, if that is the solution,
the commission should dropa note for a job well done.
VII. New Business
A. Committee Appointment
Mr. Oxian noted changes in the committee assignments as follows:
Standards and Maintenance - Adrian Fine (Co -Chair), Martha Choitz, Catherine _
Hostetler (Alt.), Joann Sporleder, Ed Talley and Father Bullene.
. Historic Districts - Martha Choitz (Co -Chair), Catherine Hostetler (Co -Chair)
Janeanne Petrass, Adrian Fine. Other remaining committee members shall remain
the same.
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
Mr. Talley would like to move ahead with Landmark Designation at Highland
Cemetery and the Horse trough, in front of the Charles Martin Youth Center.
Mr. Oxian stated he wanted to have a committee, meeting on this. Mr. Oxian
said that Mr. Duvall had something he had in mind. concerning Riverview and
Highland.
Mr. Talley asked everyone to review ,the proposed new stationery. Mr. Oxian
stated that Mr. Duvall would need to have a title of Director under his name.
All eight committee members should be recognized at the bottom of the page
along with the title of Architectural Historian as a ninth member. Father
Bullene suggested moving the names closer together, centering the letterhead
more. Mr. Wiener suggested a new type style to make the letterhead stand out.
Mrs. Hostetler made a motion that the letterhead be approved and Mr. Wiener
seconded the motion. The vote passed unanimously.
IX. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
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