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AGENDA OF THE REGULAR MEETING
of the
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Special
meeting County Commissioner's
"7:30
p.m. Conference Room
Monday,
June 30, 1997 7th Floor County City Bldg.
I.
Call to Order
II.
Roll Call
III.
Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1) 1041 Riverside Drive - Storm door replacement
2) 631 Lincolnway East - rear yard fence
3) 1615 East Wayne Street - window replacement
4) 1129 Riverside•Drive - replacement of garage door(s)
5) 1325 East Wayne Street South - patio deck
B. National Register nominations
1) South Michigan Street Historic District
2) Colonial Gardens Historic District
3) Wenger Farmhouse
4) Children's Dispensary/Hansel Center
IV:
Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes
1. May 19, 1997
B. Treasurer's Report
C. Correspondence
D. Committee Reports
1. Budget & Finance
2. Historic Districts
a. Project Access
3. Historic Landmarks
a. Status of recommendations to Common Council
1) 1631 Lincolnway West
2) 804 N. Lafayette -*Madison School
3) 32132 S.R. 2, Olive Twp. - Studebaker Clubhouse/Bendix Woods
5. Standards & Maintenance
E. Staff Reports
1. C of A Staff Approvals
a. 1309 East Wayne Street South - In-kind roofing replacement
2. Legal
3. DHPA Grant status
a. 1996-97
b. 1997-98
4. Blake Gardens
V.
Old Business
VI.
New Business
A. First Reading for Local Landmark Designation
1. 216 S. St. Louis (828 East Jefferson Blvd.)
VII.
Hearing of Visitors
VIII.
Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
IX.
Adjournment
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FINANCIAL REPORT
` HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
January 1 thru June 30, 1997
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Expenses
1/1/97 Balance fwd from county
County appropriation
to date - Director Salary 11100.00
to date - Asst Director salary 7916.00
to date - received from county
to date - received from CDBG
to date - office & grant expenses 6118.26
to date - received from grant sources
25134.26
Revenue
218.22
3500.00
11199.00
7916.00
7231.25
29965.47
BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS FOR REMAINDER OF YEAR
R -E Available from County
Projected office expenses
Current Balance in CDBG
Projected Admin Asst salary
Recent claim on DHPA grant
4831.21
,1750. 00
3081.21 available
10302.00
8652.00
1650.00 available
4718.00 available .
TOTAL available for closing out this year's
special projects and initiating next year's.............$9449.21
• MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
of the
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Monthly Meeting County Commissioner's
7:30 p.m. Conference Room
Monday May 19, 1997 7th Floor County -City Building
I. Call to Order
John Oxian, President of the commission, brought the meeting to order at 7:30
p.m.
II. Roll Call
Commission members present were: John Borkowski, Martha Choitz, Adrian Fine,
Catherine Hostetler, John Oxian, Janeanne Petrass, J. Edward Talley, & Jerry
Wiener.
Commission staff present was: David Duvall, Director, Melody VanZant,
Administrative Assistant and Aladean DeRose, Counsel.
Also attending the meeting were: Dolores Saylor, Marcy Kauffman, Michael
DePay, Joe MacHatton, Pete DeKever, Nancy TenBroeck, William Cochrane, Roland
Kelly and Steve Hubner.
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1) 1997-0421, 717 Lincolnway East - Construction of Storage Shed.
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and distributed photographs. The owner
• was not present. Mr. Oxian recommended making a motion to approve the
building for TEMPORARY use until change in ownership or until an appropriate
style building is presented or constructed by the owner. Mr. Borkowski moved
that the commission approve the application. Mrs. Hostetler seconded the
motion. The motion passed with one nay vote from Mr. Talley.
2) 1997-0501, 519 Edgewater Drive - Replacement of concrete driveway.
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff .Report and distributed photographs. He noted
that the owner, Mr. and Mrs. Cochrane were present. He also noted that the
driveway was a shared driveway and that the neighbor, Mrs. TenBroeck, had
written a letter stating her approval to have this driveway reconstructed.
Mrs. Choitz made a motion to approve the application. Mr. Borkowski seconded
the motion. The motion passed with one nay vote from Mr. Talley.
3) 1997-0502, 1325 East Wayne Street South - Install a new black chainlink
fence to the rear yard.
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and distributed photographs. He noted
that the owner, Mr. Kelly, was present. Mr. Kelly stated that he was the
second owner of the home. Mr. Borkowski moved for approval of the
application. Mr. Talley seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
4) 1997-0502-2 - 621 Lincolnway East - Construction of rear porch deck.
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and distributed photographs. The owner,
Mr. MacHatton, was present but had to leave early. This was a code
enforcement issue. While the staff recommended approval, it was suggested
that the home owner consider wrapping the skirting all the way around to the
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rear of the house for consistency, but also noted, this was not mandatory.
This was explained to Mr. MacHatton before he left the building and the owner
agreed with our recommendations. Mrs. Hostetler made a motion to pass the
motion. Mrs. Petrass seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
5) 1997-0502-3, 1.6581 Chandler Boulevard Construction of new detached
• garage.
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and distributed photographs. He noted
that the owner, Mr. DeKever, was present. Mr. DeKever stated that the garage
would be a miniature version of the house. Mr. Oxian noted that the house
should be surveyed.for our records due to the fact that this house has more
than historical significance. Mrs. Hostetler made a motion for approval of
the application. Mrs. Petrass seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously.
6) 1997-0502-4, 1208 Lincolnway East - Removal of front exterior stairs (1st
issue) and construction of 2 story rear porch (2nd issue).
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and distributed photographs. He noted
that Steve Hubner was present representing the Owner.
In the midst of the Staff Report the meeting was interrupted by County -City
Building security personnel and instructed to leave the premises due to the
possibility of a bomb being in the lobby. The group remaining at this time
caucused in the adjacent parking lot and determined to reconvene at the nearby
offices of the HPC's attorney. The group so assembled and resumed
consideration, the only absenting member being Mrs. Choitz. Mr. Duvall
completed reading of th Staff Report and the Mr. Oxian instructed the
commission to consider the separate items of this application as follows:
1st issue: Remove the front stairs and restore the front,of the house to the
original style by putting siding on the front where the stairs are now and
• installing a fixed sash landing window where the stairway door is now.
Mr. Talley moved for approval of the 1st issue. Mr. Borkowski seconded the
motion. The motion passed unanimously.
2nd issue: Remove the back porch and replace with a porch similar to that of
1216 Lincolnway East. This would provide a second egress which is required by
the fire Marshall and building code. Mr. Wiener made a motion to approve the
2nd issue. Mr. Talley seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
B. Second Reading for Local Landmark Designation
1) Studebaker Proving Grounds Clubhouse - Bendix Woods County Park
32132 S.R. 2, Olive Township, New Carlisle, In.
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and distributed a photograph. He noted
that Dolores Saylor and Marcy Kauffman, Friends of Bendix Woods and Michael
DePay, Studebaker Drivers Club, were present. Ms. Saylor spoke about the Park
Board being very adamant about closing the building. She stated that Mr.
Mercantini was present during a meeting held to close the park and that Mr.
Mercantini would not give assurance that the building would not be closed
Ms. Saylor said she and Friends of Bendix Woods needed all the help they uld
get to save the park. Mr. Oxian stated that if this was to ed, that
there would be a need for more people to appear before the Common uncil to
speak in favor of this for Landmarking. He noted that the fission it
could fight the Park Board, but, we would still need the backing of the
public. Mr. Duvall stated that the Common Council most likely would not
address this situation until possible July, 1998. Mr. Talley asked if the
issue was for Local Landmarking. Mr. Oxian confirmed that the issued was for
• Local Landmarking. Mr. Borkowski made a motion to declare the building for a
Landmark. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
• Mr. Talley asked Ms. Saylor if the impression she got from the parks
department was to simply close the building. Ms. Saylor said that at the
meeting she attended, that Mr. Mercantini said he had someone who would buy
the building. Ms. Saylor stated that it was the park board who wished to
• sell. Mr. Duvall mentioned that in a poker game the issue had come up about
selling the building from Mr. Mercantini. Mr. Mercantini said that if they
were to sell it then it would be with protective covenant. He also seemed to
indicate that the park land itself could not be sold. The sale of the
building would either be sold without the land, which was a possibility, or it
would indicate a removal of the site. Mr. DePay added that one of the issues
brought up during the meeting with Mr. Mercantini regarding the closing,of the
building was that it cost around $10,000 a year to heat that building and .that
was way out of line with all the rest of the buildings even though Mr.
Mercantini had no data to back that up from the other buildings, per square
foot, to show a comparison. Mr. Talley mentioned that this was like Madison
.School issue. Mr. DePay went on to say that even though the money was there
to fix the heating system, it was as though that money was not an option. He
said that it was said that "They are not in the Historical business, either".
Mr. Talley said that they were and that they were there to act as caretakers
for us, and not a separate corporation without ties to the people. Mrs.
Choitz mentioned that federal and state money went into the park system in
1967, and there is a nature preserve which has some covenant. Mr. Talley
stated that the Commission felt that the building has a value to be declared a
Local Landmark which places some restrictions on it officially, but
unofficially, the Friends have our support and sympathy. It's unfortunate that
the caretakers have lost site of the original direction of the park commission
itself.
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes
. 1. April 21, 1997 - 1997-1998 DHPA GRANT
Mr. Oxian stated that the counter proposal was that we do the whole survey.
Mr. Duvall stated that he was trying to say that they were counter proposing
our proposal - the alternative to doing one township at a time, and we may
wish to counter propose in the future to do something else. Plus, they have
already told us that we could not do the survey for this year. Mr. Oxian said
that they could do that for the following year. Mr. Duvall agreed. Mr.
Talley made a motion to approve the minutes. Mr. Wiener made a second. All
present approved except Ms. Hostetler and Mr. Borkowski who abstained due to
the fact that they were not present.
B. Treasurer's Report
Nothing to report.
C. Correspondence
Nothing to report.
D. Committee Reports
1. Budget and Finance
Mr. Duvall stated that the Committee needed to get together to discuss both
the budget and employment issues.
2. Historic Districts
A. Project Access
Mrs. Hostetler reported on Lincolnway Project Access, April 29 and 30. She
• stated that the attendance was very low.Mr. Duvall mentioned that one of
those nights a tornado watch was out which might have had something to do with -
the attendance. Regarding a staff report he said he had received two forms
for persons interested in the River Bend liaison group and East Wayne had
provided their list of liaison members'. Edgewater Place needs a third
volunteer.
Mr. Talley said he needed to check, but felt his term had ended with the
Riverside Committee.
3. Historic Landmarks
A. Status of recommendations to Common Council
1. 1631 Lincolnway West - Sold
2. 804 N. Lafayette - Madison School
Mr. Oxian and two Councilmen appeared before the school board to speak. The
issue was again coming before the board this very evening. Mr. Oxian
suggested to Ms. DeRose that the section of the Historic Preservation Plan, of
South Bend on Public Historic Resources Policy be changed to include all
public or quasi governmental agencies. The issue had arisen in connection with
Madison School which is owned by the School Corporation , not South Bend or
St. Joseph County. Ms. DeRose suggested that she and Mr. Oxian talk about
this later.
5. Standards and Maintenance
Nothing to report.
E. Staff Reports
1. C of A Staff Approvals
A. 304 S. Twykenham - In-kind landscaping plant replacement.
B. 231 S. Eddy Street/1029 E. Wayne Street - In-kind repair and replacement
of stucco.
2. Legal
A. Appeal of 1995-1201, 1414 East Wayne Street - Front Yard Fence.
• Ms. DeRose distributed to'all members a copy of a letter she submitted to the
Common Council on the Lackman case and asked all members to read it and if
anyone had any comments to let her know so she could get it to the Common
Council by Wednesday of this week with the administrative record which is the
requirement on appeal.
Mr. Talley stated that Ms. Lackman had sent a letter to Roland Kelly, David
Varner, East Wayne Street Liaison Committee and Mr. Talley. Mr. Talley said
he has attempted twice to contact David Varner to find out the reason for his
receipt of one of the letters and he has yet to receive a phone call from Mr.
Varner. Mr..Oxian suggested that Ms. DeRose look at the letter.
Mr. Oxian spoke of the response from the editorial of the South Bend Tribune
which was included in the monthly package and urged all to read the response.
Mr. Oxian also mentioned that he had wrote a letter to the council stating
that he was not at the original Lackman meeting and did not want to be used as
a scapegoat.
Mr. Duvall provided each member with a Proposed Amendment to the Powers and
Duties section of the Ordinance which he felt was simply a matter of cleaning
up some out-of-date language in the Ordinance with no effect on Powers and
Duties, per se.
Mr. Oxian suggested that the same clean up should be done with the County
otherwise there would be two different Ordinances. Ms. DeRose concurred.
3. DHPA Grant Status
A. 1996-97
B. 1997-98
• Mr. Duvall Stated that he had received a draft of the Leeper Park nomination
to the National Register from Malcolm Cairns. And, the Westerly Group planned
to be in town again to complete, field work in the East Bank area in the
coming week. The Colonial Gardens, South Michigan Street, Wenger Farmhouse,
and Children's Dispensary nominations have been received and will be on the
June agenda.
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4. Blake Gardens
Mr. Talley inquired about the status of Blake Gardens. Mr. Duvall replied
that he understood that a permit had been filed with the Army Corps of
Engineers but that no hearing had yet been scheduled. Ken Fedder had written
indicating that the Owners had agreed to use the HPC's proposed wording on the,
plaque.
It was also mentioned that 828 E. Jefferson Street which had been engulfed by
Weiss homes had been made available for sale. An individual plans to purchase
the house and move it to a vacant lot across St. Louis Street from Howard
Park.
V. Old Business
No old business was considered.
VI. New Business
Mr. Talley inquired- about 1003 Riverside Drive where he had observed
landscaping work without the necessary COA. He mentioned that Cornerstone
Realty is selling the home.
He also asked whether- the alteration of manholes in Leeper Park had been
confirmed. Mr. Duvall indicated that Carl Littrell had responded to his
inquiry that the existing manholes were simply being raised to correspond with
the pavement levels.
Mr. Talley also expressed concern about the eligibility of a liaison person
(Ann Bockenkamp) who has not applied for a C of A for a door installed.
The committee suggest sending her another C of A application.
VII. Hearing of Visitors
All visitors wishing to address the commission had been heard earlier.
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
Nothing to report
IX. Adjournment
Meeting was adjourned•at 9:30 p.m.
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• MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
of the
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Regular Monthly Meeting County Commissioner's
7:30 p.m. Conference Room
Monday June 16, 1997 7th Floor County -City Building
I. Call to.Order
John Oxian, president of the commission, brought the meeting to order at 7:45
p.m. as a committee of the whole in the absence of a quorum.
II. Roll Call
Commission members present were: Martha Choitz, Adrian Fine, Catherine
Hostetler, & John Oxian
Commission staff present was: David Duvall, director and Aladean DeRose,
counsel.
Also attending the meeting were: Gary Derbin, Mr. & Mrs. Wm. Albright, Linda
,Fitschner, and Bob Rousled.
III. Public Hearing
(The committee of the whole determined on the advice, of counsel that the
commission could constitute a quorum by contacting an absent member by
telephone for limited consideration of the COA application of the Albrights
who were in attendance. All other official business was deferred to a future
date.)
• A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1) 1997-0528 - 1721 East Wayne Street, replacement windows
Staff presented the Staff comments with supporting photographs, noting that
the applicants -and their contractor, Gary Derbin, were present. Mr. Durbin
presented a sample of the proposed window type.
Mrs. Choitz moved for approval of the COA. Mrs. Hostetler seconded the motion.
Mr. fine noted that he felt the sandwich muntins (between two panels of glass)
created a significant alteration but that in this case the selected windows
were not as.character-giving as the French doors and that the existing storm,
panels presently obscured the effect of the muntins. On balance he felt the
sandwich muntins created an effect truer to the original than interior muntin
systems and felt the replacement was appropriate. Mr. Albright stated that he
felt the French doors were irreplaceable with beveled glass, etc. Mr. Oxian
noted that there had never been an application to replace French doors. Mrs.
Albright noted that the French doors were problematic for thermal efficiency
and Mr. Oxian agreed, stating that many new homes still featured French Doors
although they were not greatly improved in energy efficiency. Mr. Duvall
concurred in this. The motion passed unanimously with Mrs. Choi,tz contacting
Mrs. Petrass by telephone for her vote.
in the absence of a Quorum Mr. Oxian indicated that a special meeting would
need 'to be called with the consensus being that the June 30 would be
convenient and would meet the requirements of the ordinance for timely review.
In reviewing the necessity of meeting the 45 day review requirement and
available dates, both Mr. Duvall & Mrs. DeRose indicated that they would. be
. away on July 21, the regularly scheduled date for the July meeting. It was
agreed to resolve the date of the July meeting at the June 30 meeting.
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IV. Regular Business
In reviewing minutes for May 19, 1996, Mr. Oxian corrected that the Studebaker
Clubhouse Local Landmark designation was to be recommended to the County
Council, not the Common Council. He further noted that on comment in
discussion of the Studebaker clubhouse attributed to Mrs. Choitz must have
been made by someone else as Mrs. Choitz had left the meeting when it
relocated to'Mrs. Derose's offices..
Mr. Oxian asked whether Mrs. DeRose was going to'address the issue of amending
the Preservation Plan regarding the definition of publicly owned resources.
Mrs. DeRose indicated that she was not certain of the. advisability of such a
change and that she and he should meet to discuss the matter. He also
indicated that he felt the code should. be amended to increase the 45 day
review requirement to 60 days . His rationale was that such a change would
allow time to table or refer an application to a committee for at least one
month without requiring a waiver of the limit. He noted that the present time
frame did not allow sufficient time for commission members to visit project
locations before the Public Hearing in many cases. Mrs. DeRose indicated that
she tended to agree but felt that it might be difficult to get passed by
council. Mr. Fine & Mrs. Choitz agreed that the commission needed to consider
the pros & cons of such a change. Mrs.'DeRose noted that if such a change were
made in city code that the Staff would have to draft*a similar ordinance for
the county as she could not work on county business as a city employee. Mr.
Oxian noted that a review of the county ordinance was in order as some other
changes had been recently made and were presently being made in city code
which would make it at variance with county code and that the two should be
retained as similar as possible.
Mrs. Choitz reported on Project Access that future planning should provide for
meeting jointly with Riverside Drive and West North Shore owners at a combined
meeting. Mrs-. Hostetler noted that summer was not a good season for such
meetings. Mrs. DeRose observed that the initiation of Project Access had been
very helpful in the HPC's public relations.
Being unable to conduct other business, the meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
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• MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
of the
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Special Monthly Meeting County.Commissioner's
7:30 p.m. Conference Room
Monday June 30, 1997 7th Floor County -City Building
I. Call.to Order
John Oxian, president of the commission, brought the meeting to order at 7:35
p.m.
II. Roll Call
Commission members present were: Martha Choitz, Adrian Fine, Catherine
Hostetler, John Oxian, Janeanne Petrass, Joann-Sporleder, & Jerry Wiener.
Commission staff present was: David Duvall, director.
Also attending the meeting was: Donald Sporleder
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1) 1997-0521 - 1421 Riverside Drive - Storm door replacement
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and circulated photographs noting that
this application was after the fact and that the photographs indicated the
proposed condition. Mrs. Choitz moved to approve the application with a
recommendation that the storm door be painted white. Mr. Fine seconded the
motion.
Mr. Oxian observed in regard to the after the fact nature of the application
that the applicant was one of the Liaison representatives from this district.
Both Mrs. Sporleder and Mrs. Choitz indicated that they felt that fact to be
irrelevant to the issue of this application. Regarding the issue of color
noted in the Staff Report, Mrs. Sporleder felt that the commission could only
recommend that the door be painted in accordance with the general color
scheme. Mr. Oxian agreed that the commission did not regularly regulate color
,and therefore should not in this instance.
The motion passed unanimously.
2) 1997-0530 - 631 Lincolnway East - rear yard fencing
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report and circulated photographs. After. some
discussion to make the plan exhibits clear Mrs. Hostetler moved to approve the
application. . Mrs. Sporleder seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously.
3) 1997-0604 - 1615 East Wayne Street - Window replacement
Mr. Oxian asked if all information was available for this application. Mr.
Duvall responded that he had still not received a reply from the contractor as
to whether the weight of muntin grid could be mixed with this line of windows.
,Having so noted, Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Report. In the absence of the
final information on the availability of muntin systems the Mr. Oxian
suggested that the matter should be referred to Standards & Maintenance
Committee. Mr, Fine asked if the windows were beyond repair. Mr. Duvall
responded that this determination, was very subjective especially with regard
. to the issue of proper weatherization, and that he had not had an opportunity
to make such a determination.
Mr. Oxian asked how many windows were affected by the transom issue. He then
asked how obvious from the street this characteristic was. Mr. Fine indicated
that he believed them to be quite obvious. Mr. Oxian wondered why interior
storm windows would not be effective in this case. He suggested so
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maintaining the historic windows at the front and allowing -the replacement
• windows elsewhere in the building. Mr. Duvall Mr. Duvall indicated most
windows had the transom condition but that the contractor had only prepared
the alternative drawing for the window group at the front as an example.
Mr. Fine inquired about the proposed muntin system in the Eagle window line
and whether they were sandwiched between the glass or were placed on the
interior. Mr. Duvall indicated that the muntins in this design were located
inside the interior panel of glass. Mrs-. Choitz indicated that this would
create a hard shine reflected on the glass and resulting in significant loss
of the visibility of the muntins.
Mr. Fine indicated that he felt these windows to be the primary
character -giving feature of this house and of this district. He felt that the
windows could be repaired and provided with storms. He asked how the air
conditioners were to be handled. Mr. Duvall stated that the plans indicated
that certain of these windows could continue to accommodate the window air
conditioners. Mrs. Choitz recalled this having been an issue when the Hickeys
replaced their metal windows.
Mrs. Sporleder indicated that she felt these existing windows to be very
problematic because the commission was presented with the issue of attempting
to preserve a feature which to her sensibilities had been defective in concept
of original design. Shefinds the steel casement sash to be ineffective from
the vie of energy conservation and personal comfort and problematic for
maintenance of operation. Mr. Fine disagreed, indicating that he has this
type of window in his own home and finds them comfortable with the use of
interior storm windows. Mrs. Choitz noted that when she had investigated the
Hickey's windows she was made aware of much colatteral damage to plaster and
woodwork which resulted from condensation on this type of window in winter.
She wondered whether other window suppliers would be able to better replicate
the desired appearance in a replacement window. Mr. Fine indicated that where
he had performed the necessary repairs on his windows, they have performed
much better while the windows at his home not yet rehabilitated did evidence
this sort of condensation. Mr. Oxian asked whether theinterior storm issue
had been discussed with the owner. Mr. Duvall indicated that he had not
discussed this with the owner. Mr. Oxian indicated that he felt the
possibility of interior storm windows or an alternate supplier should be
discussed with the owner. He proposed to refer this application to a committee
for further investigation of alternatives. Mrs. Choitz stated that she and her
husband had once sold a home with this type of window because they could no
longer tolerate them but could not find a suitable replacement window. Mr.
Fine moved that the application be table and referred to Standards &
Maintenance Committee to meet with the owner and attempt to find an
alternative. Mr. Wiener seconded the motion. The motion passed -by 6 to 1 vote
with Mrs. Sporleder voting no.
Mr. Fine inquired whether a waiver of the statutory limit was required. Mr.
Duvall indicated that the committee would have some period to act before the
waiver requirement, and that he could provide a waiver form when he contacted
the owner to -report the results of this hearing.
Mrs, Sporleder resumed a more general discussion of finding a satisfactory
policy for window replacements. Mr. Oxian observed that the commission had
approved most window 'replacement applications. She recalled that the Hickey
windows had been an unpleasant episode even though they were ultimately
• approved. Mr. Duvall observed that though several window replacements had been
approved since he was with the commission, all except the Hickey's and one
modern house which replaced Pella with the same had been wood double hung.
Mrs. Choitz indicated that residents didn't seem to recognize the profound
difference that single sheet glass makes in the appearance of their houses and
that we should collect photos for comparative purposes.
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5) 1997-0-521 - 1129 Riverside Drive - Garage Door replacement.
• , Mr. Duvall presented the Staff report and circulated photographs and product
literature. Mr. Oxian noted that he had antique garage doors on his garage
repaired and they have continued to be problematic for proper operation. He
indicated that he believed he would someday need to replace his doors. Mrs.
Choitz indicated that the outswinging garage doors which were custom made for
her daughters residence had performed and weathered well. Mr. Duvall indicated
that he had been perplexed that the doors seemed to be wider than the area of
wall for them to return against, making him wonder how to'fully open them.
Mrs. Choitz asked whether the aperture of the door would require alteration to
accommodate the replacement door. Mr. Duvall indicated that the reason for the
owner' s' selection of the flush door design was because it allowed for custom
cutting to fit the opening. Mr. Fine asked whether there were lites proposed.
Mr. Duvall indicated that there were not.
Mrs. Hostetler move for approval of the application. Mrs. Petrass seconded the
motion. - Mr. Fine suggested that there may be an issue of color here. Mr.
Duvall indicated that the door would be paintable. Mrs. Choitz observed that
the product literature indicated availability in white, almond, and brown. Mr.
Oxian asked what the size of the door was. Mr. Wiener estimated that it was
about 14 feet. Mrs. Choitz asked whether it was a. one car or two car garage.
Mr. Duvall indicated that it was a spacious garage with space for a workshop
and featuring a mechanic's pit and a vegetable cellar.
Mrs Choitz called the question. The motion passed 5 to 1 with Mr. Oxian
abstaining. Mrs. Sporleder explained her no vote indicating that she felt this
door was character -giving to the property and noting that the house was highly
rated. Mr.: Duvall indicated that there were two issues in the application and
• that retention of the doors and installation the new door were not necessarily
in conflict as they were not in the same plane. Mr. Oxian asked how you could
approve the new door while rejecting the removal of the historical doors. Mr.
Duvall indicated that the original doors could simply be left in the open
position. Mrs. Choitz indicated that the doors could be replicated by a
competent carpenter. Mr. Duvall noted that the owners had considered a west
coast supplier of customized doors which had proven -economically prohibitive.
Mr. Oxian indicated that he presumed the owners to be interested in the
convenient operation of automatic overhead doors.
5) 1997-0624 - 1325 East Wayne Street- - rear yard deck
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff Repot and distributed photographs and plans.
Mrs. Choitz moved to table the application and refer it to the Standards &
Maintenance committee for consideration upon receipt of more detailed
information. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
B National Register Nominations
Mr. Duvall indicated that the commission had received four nominations to the
National Register of Historic Places which required consideration by the
commission as a Certified Local Government.
1) South Michigan Street Historic District
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff report and distributed documentation materials.
He further noted that the nomination was requestedby the HPC in accordance
with the 1993 Summary Report of the Indiana Historic Sites and Structures
Inventory for South Bend.
• Mr. Fine moved that the commission recommend this nomination to the Mayor, the
SHPO and the State Historic Preservation Review Board for inclusion in the
National Register. Mrs. Choitz seconded the motion. Mr. Oxian inquired as to
where the consultant found the information on storefront divisions. Mr. Duvall
indicated that he could not speak for the consultant's sources other than as
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expressed in the bibliography of the nomination. Mr.' Oxian wondered whether
• some of the guesswork in the nomination was based on.current observation of
the buildings or photographic evidence, and that he would abstain. Mr. Duvall
indicated that he could inquire of the consultant about her sources. There was
much discussion about the locations of Bungalow Pies and Inwood's. Mr. Fine
indicated that the information was probably taken predominantly from city
directories which might show a record at slight variancg to the exact
chronology of events. There was subsequent conversation attempting to recall
the location of the grocery which is mentioned in the text but not identified.
Mr. Oxian called the question. The motion passed with 5 yes votes and 2
abstentions, Mr. Oxian and Mrs. Sporleder.
2) Colonial Gardens Historic District
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff report and distributed documentation materials.
He further noted that the nomination was requested by the HPC in accordance
with the 1993 Summary Report of the Indiana Historic Sites and Structures
Inventory for South Bend.
Mrs. Choitz moved that the commission recommend this nomination to the Mayor,
the SHPO and the State Historic Preservation Review Board for inclusion in the
National Register. Mrs. Hostetler seconded the motion.
3) Wenger Farmhouse
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff report and distributed documentation materials.
He further noted that the nomination was requested by the HPC in accordance
with the 1993 Summary Report of the Indiana Historic Sites and Structures
Inventory for South Bend.
• Mrs. Sporleder questioned whether the owners had been made aware of the
nomination. Mr. Duvall stated that they had received both a letter of
notification and an agenda for this meeting. He indicated that the ownership
was to be in transition as the city had plans to and has made offer to
purchase the building as part of the acquisitions for the new park being
developed in this vicinity but that this purchase had not yet come to
fruition. Staff has the assurance of the Dept. of Redevelopment as to the
intended course and the nomination was a result of planning for access to
funding.for the restoration of the building by the city. Mr. Oxian indicated
that this had been under consideration for over 10 years and that he had
directed Mr. Duvall to proceed at this time to enable use of the current CLG
funding in processing the nomination. Mr. Fine asked whether the acquisition
was planned by purchase or immanent domain. Mr. Duvall indicated a purchase
offer had been made. Mr. Oxian indicated that the property was now under
control of the you Wigfall and this may have affected the planned
purchase. Mr. Fine asked whether the interior photographs were available. Mr.
Duvall indicated that documentation of the interior had been difficult due to
its having been full of stored junk, but that the one interior photo submitted
with the application was available. He then circulated the photo. Mr. Fine
asked if the owner had provided the interior access. Mr. Duvall indicated that
he had been to the site with a code enforcement employee who had access. Mr.
Oxian noted that this house had been declared a Landmark without the owner's
consent.
Mrs. Choitz moved that the commission recommend this nomination to the Mayor,
the SHPO and the State Historic Preservation Review Board for inclusion in the
National Register. Mr. Fine seconded the motion. The motion passed
• unanimously.
4) Hansel Center
Mr. Duvall presented the Staff report and distributed documentation materials.
He further noted that the nomination was requested by the HPC in accordance
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• with the 1993 Summary Report of the Indiana Historic Sites and Structures
Inventory for South Bend. He added that this nomination was initiated by the
Hansel Center for the purpose of leveraging future funding for improvements.
Mr. Oxian noted that there was an interesting secondary structure at the rear
of the. property. Mr. Duvall noted that this was a carriage house which may
have been related to an earlier dwelling but that there was no record found of
such a building. He noted that there is a gap of nearly 2 decades in the
Sanborn Insurance map records for the city during the early Twentieth Century.
Mrs. Choitz moved that the commission recommend this nomination to the Mayor,
the SHPO and the State Historic Preservation Review Board for inclusion in the
National Register. Mrs. Petrass seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously.
IV: Regular Business
A. Minutes
Mr. Duvall noted that there had been corrections made to the May minutes at
the previous meeting which was without a quorum but that he had not had
occasion during the intervening period to revise those or to prepare the
minutes from that meeting. He indicated he would have all minutes prepared for
the July meeting.
B. Treasurer's Report
Mr. Wiener indicated that he would. have a second Quarter report for the July
meeting.
C. Correspondence
Mr. Duvall noted no correspondence to report which was not covered in some
other item of business.
D. Committee Reports
1. Budget & Finance
Mr. Oxian reported having met with County commissioner Beverly Crone in which
he had discussed, establishing the HPC as a separately funded agency. She had
agreed to suggest such a change and He had directed Mr. Duvall to send a
letter to her confirming this intention. He had also discussed the creation of
a fund dedicated to matching grant funding from other sources. Other items
which had been discussed at this meeting were salary funding; the Studebaker
Clubhouse, whereby the commissioners are in agreement regarding the need for
maintenance; and the old courthouse for which $200,000 of funding has been
secured..
2. Historic Districts
Mrs. Choitz reported that there was a need to establish a meeting date in the
early Fall for West North Shore and Riverside Drive. Regarding the proposal
for a South St. Joseph Street District, a preliminary meeting has been
scheduled to discuss the necessary process. Mr. Duvall noted that the Ballots
had been distributed for the River Bend Liaison election which will be tallied
before the next meeting.
3. Historic Landmarks
Mr. Oxian 'reported that
1631 Lincolnway West - has been sold and Code Enforcement has provided a
reprieve for improvements by the new owners.
The Studebaker Clubhouse has been submitted to the County Council for
Landmark designation by ordinance.
804 N. Lafayette - Madison School - He met along with Mr. Duvall with Mr.
Stahley and Mr. Jasiewicz of the school administration and agreed to a four
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• month period of delay in this recommendation to provide for discussion and
definition of the affects of Landmark designation of this site.
He also indicated that there would be first reading at the next meeting for
the Tower Building, 216 West Washington and two houses on West LaSalle Street.
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4. Standards & Maintenance
Mr. Fine indicated that he had no report but that he would need to schedule a
meeting in the near future to consider the COAs referred from this meeting.
E. Staff Reports
1. Mr. Duvall reported Staff approval of a COA for:
1309 East Wayne Street - roofing replacement
2. There was no legal report.
3. DHPA Grants
Mr. Duvall reported that the DHPA had granted an extension of one month for
the 1996-1997 projects due to schedule delays which were the fault of the
SHPO. He indicated that the RFPs for the 1997-1998 work had not yet been
prepared.
4. Mr. Duvall reported that a DNR floodway-permit application had been filed
for the Blake Gardens site but as of yet no Army Corps of Engineers hearing
has been scheduled.
V. There was no old business
VI. New Business
A-1) There was a first reading of the recommendation to declare the building
being moved.from 828 East Jefferson to 216 S. St. Louis as.a Local Landmark.
Mr. Duvall noted that this move was complicating the boundary considerations
of the Howard Park District nomination. Mr, Oxian added that Staff was trying
to assist the new owner in difficulties with the zoning of the intended site
to facilitate the move.
VII. Hearing of Visitors
Mr. Don 'tporleder addressed the commission regarding the feasibility and
desirability of restoring the roadway beneath the North Michigan Street Bridge
in Leeper Park -for use by cyclists and pedestrians. Mr. Duvall noted that this
should be included in the Historic Preservation Plan for which grant funding
has been secured for the coming year.
Mr. Oxian noted that a COA application fro restoration of windows at the North
Pumping Station is anticipated and that he will abstain from voting this issue
at the Water Works Board t assert his views at the HPC.
Hearing no more business, Mr. Oxian adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.
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