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Lori,
Attached is a revised description for the C of A requirements. I
did not re -type the info at the bottom of your sheet but that info
should also be included. I think this is an important issue and
should be discussed at the next meeting by the Commission.
Thanks, �,n
M E M O R A N D U M
TO: NPC Members
FROM: Lori Dixon
RE: September Meeting
DATE= September 11, 1990
Find enclosed the necessary information for our meeting Monday.
We will be having a Personnel Committee meeting on Tuesday at
1:00 to interview Suzanne Booker and potential staff members (see
agenda).
I am also enclosing notes regarding Procedures for C. of A.
applications, Computer training opportunities, and a request for
James Pastor to attend the IU Preservation Conference.
I look forward to seeing you Monday.
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ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING
south bend, indiana 46601 (219) 284-9798
AGENDA OF THE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING
OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Conference Room A, 3rd Floor County/City Building
7:30 p.m. Regular Monthly Meeting
September 17, 1990
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness (Review)
1. 1216 E. Wayne Street Nor.th--EW
2. 63907 Bremen Highway --LL
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes --August 20, 1990
B. Treasurer's Report --August 1990
C. Correspondence
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness
�.. h�clfct Procedures for C. of A. Applications
2. Budget.& Finance
3. Legal
4. Historic Districts
5. Historic Landmarks
a. 723 Park Avenue --2nd Reading
6. Public Relations & Community Education
7. Personnel
a. Personnel Committee meeting on 9/18/90
b. Computer Training
8. Staff Reports
a. Permission to attend IU Conference
V. Old Business
VI. New Business
- A. Photo Processing
VII. Hearing of Visitors
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
IX. Adjournment
STAFF REPORT
Jeff Hyatt
1216 E. Wayne St. North
South Bend, IN 46615
PROPOSAL
The owner proposes to install 122 ft. of 42" [%fight, 2-1/2" spaced
picket fence around approximately 20% of the yard in back of the
house, with one gate made to look like the fence. Materials
include western red cedar 1x4 dog-ear topped pickets,2x4
stringers & gate. Wolmanized red pine 4x4 posts set in 2' cement
(see specs from Schuell Fence, enclosed).
STANDARDS_
New site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past
appearance of the property found in photographs, drawings, and
'newspapers. New site work should also be appropriate to existing
surrounding site elements in scale, type, and appearance....
Fences shall not extend forward beyand the setback line of the
house.
RECOMMENDATION
The staff recommends that the owner be permitted to install the
fence in his backyard. It would not detract from the site or the
neighborhood, and would be largely obscured from street view by
the house.
STAFF REPORT
Connie Gochenaur
63907 Bremen Hwy.
South Bend, IN
PROPOSAL
The owner proposes to build a porch which would wrap around the
east (front) and north sides of the house. This petition was
tabled at the August 1990 meeting because the style of porch in
the drawings submitted by the owners was not in keeping with the
simple Italianate style of the house.
STANDARDS
Additions to landmarks should not detract from the original form
and unity of the landmark and should not cover singular examples
of architectural detail. Additions to landmarks should be added
in a manner that does not disrupt the visible unity or overall
appearance of the site. The proportions, materials and rations
of the existing structures should be carried through i the
additions.
All work should be done in the architectural style and in a
technique compatible with that of the origianl sturcture. Change
that alters, removes, or covers existing significant stylistic
detail shall not be permitted. A change which adds detail of
another style will not be permitted.
RECOMMENDATIONS
Since the August meeting, the owners have been provided with
pictures, drawings, and written explanations of the
characteristic Italianate porch. The owners have expressed an
interest in utilizing the suggestions made by Mr. Eide, with a
few alterations in the post style. They are to submit drawings
in plan and elevation to the Commission for approval. The staff
recommends that, if the posts and other architectural details
meet the criteria for the Italianate style, the project be
approved.
historicpreservation commission
of south bend and st. joseph county
Third Floor Conference Room
7:30 p.m.
August 20, 1990
I. Call to Order
The meeting was
II. Roll Call
Members Present:
Others Present:
Members Absent:
III. Public Hearing
MINUTES
ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING
south bend, indiana 46601 (219) 284-9798
County/City Building
Regular Monthly Meeting
called to order at 7:37 p.m.
Mr. Jed Eide, Mr. Herb Herendeen, Mrs. Martha Choitz,
Mr. John Oxian, Mr. F. Jay Nimtz, Mr. James Pastor -
Survey Manager, Mrs. Lori Dixon -Director, Ms.
Aladeen DeRose-City Attorney's Representative.
Mr. Michael Blair, Ms. Cynthia Maravolo, Mr. Dean
Maravolo, Mr. David R. Vaugh, Mr. Kevin Boughal-
South Bend Tribune.
Mr. Odell Newburn, Mrs. Jean Dennen, Mrs. Janeanne
Petrass, Mrs. Joann Sporleder.
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1. 619 Edgewater
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owner had been provided forms
from the DNR for their permission to install a pier. The
resident requested some form of guideline for what type
of structure would be permissible.
Mr. Oxian recommended that the owner develop a plan for
the structure, then present it to the Commission or a
committee thereof. Then, the Commission would be backing
the plan that he would submit to the DNR.
Mrs. Choitz asked about the size intended by the resident.
The resident stated that he would like to get into deeper
water, and construct a pier and deck -like structure which
would have a drawbridge so that uninvited persons could
not obtain access to his boat and equipment, but he needs
to find out how far into the waterway before he can design
the pier.
Mrs. Dixon requested that the resident find out from the
DNR what dimensions they will permit, draft up a plan,
and present it to the committee.
The resident asked if he could have any size or materials
approved by the DNR which would not be approved bylthe
HPC. Mr. Oxian stated that we needed a plan to approve.
Mr. Herendeen stated that no reasonable plan would be
denied, but the,,HPC< must, revtiewl,tt(�under the guidelines
of the District.
Mr. Blair (the resident) mentioned that he had requested
that the owner (Kevin Smith) not proceed with the plans,
approved by the HPC, to install a pipe railing along the
top of the boat launch. Mr. Oxian stated that the reason
a pipe railing was decided upon was that Mr. Smith originally
did not want to install any type of barrier between the
street level and the launch. He further stated that the
Commission did not want a possible law suit if someone
fell over the edge and hurt themselves on the launch which
was approved by the HPC.
A citizen asked what was to stop a citizen from falling
anywhere along the shoreline. Mr. Oxian pointed out that
the HPC has had nothing to do with any other shoreline
in the district except for those which had?'be brought
before the Commission for Certificates of Appropriateness.
Mr. Blair asked that if he planted a hedge or shrub of
approximately 3ft., would that be acceptable. Mr. Oxian
stated that the Commission had suggested shrubbery originally
but the owner did not approve that suggestion. Mr. Herendeen
suggested that the owner make a written proposal, complete
with drawings, and the Commission will review it.
2. 615 Edgewater
The owner requests permission to install a deck along
the river bank, constructed of landscaping timbers, as
per the drawings submitted. The plans include a retaining
wall of the same material. The plan would fall with the
lay of the land. Mr. Oxian discussed the plan with the
owner, reviewing the drawing submitted. The shoreline
would not change, according to the owner, but the retaining wall
would be built up against the slope of the shore.
Mr. Eide reviewed the drawing while Mrs. Choitz asked
about protective barriers similar to those required of
619 Edgewater (see 1. above). The owner stated that they
would be happy to continue whatever 619 Edgewater installs
as a barrier.
Mr. Eide stated that if the drop is more than 30 inches,,
some barrier must be installed of at least 42 inches.
Ms. DeRose stated that the HPC's purpose is not to determine
safety. Mr. Herendeen asked if the HPC could make a disclaimer_
-- --regarding- the safety-of-the project.— Mr. Oxian stated
that it is within the Commission's ordinance, it is stated
that the Commission must take into account public safety
and welfare.
Mr. Eide made suggestions to the draftsman and owner of
the property regarding changes to the plan which would
make it more aesthetically pleasing:and safer for the
persons using it. These changes were incorporated into
the plan.
Mr. Oxian recommended that the HPC wait for DNR approval.,
but approve the deck.in concept, with the alterations
suggested by Mr. Eide. Mr. Herendeen moved that the deck
be approved upoft:;-.thel):dbnd*tion;:that, the deck meets all
safety requirements and DNR approval. Mrs. Choitz seconded
Mr. Herendeen stated that if any of Mr. Eide's suggestions
are varied from, the property owner is to notify the Commission. -
Motion approved.
3. 553 & 549 River Avenue
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners proposed to construct
a privacy fence between their two garages and recommended
to the Commission that -the application be approved.
Mr. Nimtz moved that the application be approved as submitted.
Mrs. Choitz seconded. Mr. Oxian asked how high.the fence
would be, and Mrs.. Dixon reported that itwouldbe six
feet tall. Motion approved.
4. 63907 Bremen Highway
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners wanted to add a porch
to the house. The porch will wrap around the north and
east 'sides. Mrs. Dixon submitted the drawings of the
porch, supplied by the owners, to the Commission for discussion.
Mr. Oxian stated that.he would like to know what the original
porch looked like. Mr. Nimtz asked if the HPC had such
a record. Mrs. Dixon read a former C. of A. stating that
the former porch would be removed and replaced.with a
stoop.
Realizing that the new owners were not aware of the structure's
architectural past, Mr. Herendeed moved that the application
be tabled and that the owners be notified of the Commission's
decision (that the porch is not in keeping with the Italianate
style of the house), and given guidelines, photographs,
etc. from which to develop a new plan. Mrs. Choitz seconded.-
Motion
econded.Motion approved. Mrs. Dixon stated that she would explain
the Commission's reasons for tabling the proposal and
offer assistance in developing a new plan.
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes --July 16, 1990
Mr. Oxian asked that Part IV, D, 7, b be amended to state that
Mr. Oxian was to speak with the Research Assistant and determine
whether or not the letter submitted to the Executive Committee
was, in fact, her letter of resignation.
Mr. Nimtz moved to approve the minutes as amended. Mr. Herendeen
seconded. Motion approved.
B. Treasurers Report
Mrs. Dixon stated that she would have a full budget report
and grant projections later. Mr. Herendeen moved to approve.
Mrs.i(Choitz seconded. Motion approved.
Mr. Nimtz asked why the HPC returned grant monies in the last
year. Mrs. Dixon stated that the office was under -staffed
thus leaving some of the monies allotted for personnel unexpended.
C. Correspondence
See Page 8
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness (Reports)
d. 405 W. Wayne
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners planned to install
an air conditioning compressor along the side of
the house, toward the rear, not to be visible from
the street. She spoke to Mr. Oxian about the project
before approving it.
b. 729 Cottage Grove
The owner proposed to replace an aluminum garage
door with a wooden tri -paneled door, for which staff
approval was given.
C. 509 Edgewater Dr.
The owner proposed to replace roofing on the body
of the house in-kind with 3 -in -1 shingles to match
roofing on the porch. Proposals for new guttering
and fencing were :tabled by the staff until further
information was provided by the owner.
d. 1425 E. Wayne
The owner proposed to remove roofing and replace
in-kind. Mr. Oxian approved the C. of A. while Mrs.
Dixon was out of the office.
e. 344 S. Sunnyside
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners proposed construction
of a new fence behind shrubbery (at setback of house).
This was also staff approved.
2. Budget & Finance
a. Community Development Block Grant Proposal
Mrs. Dixon reported that, at the Commission's direction,
she had turned in a proposal - for $13,650 in grant____.___
-- - -- - -- ---- ----------
--- -----funding_from the city and that the Commission should
hear something on -it within the next two months.
3. Legal
a. New City Attorney's representative.
Alndean DeRose introduced herself as city attorney
representative to the HPC.
4. Historic Districts
No Report
5. Historic Landmarks
a. 723 Park Avenue
Mr. Oxian gave first reading on the landmark request.
Mr. _Oxian further•'reported-_that the'. properties at 1533
Lincoln Way West and 119 LaPorte Ave. had been declared
local landmarks at the last Common Council meeting. He
also reported that the owners of the Cunningham House
had filed forms for facade easement. Mr. Oxian met -with
the Auditor of the County and they sent the forms on to(
the state tax review board.
6. Public Relations and Community Education
No Report
7. Personnel
a. Report of Committee Meeting
The Commission will be writing a proposal for an
internship program. Mr. Oxian also stated that he
would like to see better guidelines for writing histories
of structures on the survey cards.
8. Staff Report
a. Bi -Monthly Report
Mrs. Dixon stated that the Bi -Monthly Report (see
page 10) was brief due to the large amount of time
spent finishing the grant. Mr. Pastor will be providing
bi-monthly reports in the future.
V. Old Business
1. Trees on Lincoln Way West
Mr. Oxian reported that an ordinance would be sent to the County
Council seeking landmark status for the twelve or so large
oak trees along Lincoln Way West. -
2. ' Trees on Edison
Mr. Oxian reported that only two trees along Edison would be
removed, rather than the nine as originally reported. Mrs.
Dixon reported that she has asked the architect on the project
to supply the Commission with a letter designating which trees
are to be removed.
3. Brick>;Street_pc r i (,('i i J t, i i ) c• (-.; i.), ( , ; ,
Mr. Oxian reported that the city sent a letter the the HPC
stating that no brick street exists under Edgewater
Mr. Herendeen asked if the HPC could not take some kind of
action to preserve Colfax Avenue before something happens to
it. Mrs. Choitz suggested that the Commission take similar
action as with the trees.
4,. Streetlights
Mr. Eide asked about the Streetlight committee's recommendations.
Mr. Oxian stated that he had been responsible for the delay
in action of that committee. The Committee proposed specifics
poles, fixtures, and bulbs. There was disagreement.on -the-
�`" means—of—financing, so the committee decided to submit their
recommendations for fixtures, etc. first, then submit a second
proposal regarding financing.
VI. New Business
No Report
VII. Hearing of Visitors
No Report
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
No Report
IX. Adjournment
Mr. Herendeen moved to adjourn. Mr. Eide seconded. Motion approved.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
CORRESPONDENCE
a. CarrerTrack Seminars brochure
b. Preservation Law Update 1990-29,-30,-32,-34
c. HLFI brochure concerning tax incentives
d. Information on the National Trust Conference
e. The Alliance Review, Summer 1990
f. Design Competition notice from Central Atlanta Progress Inc.
g. Indiana Preservationist, Sept./Oct. 1990
h. Historic Preservation, Sept./Oct. 1990
i. MACIAF Plan Room
j. League of Historic American Theatres membership brochure
k. Notice of DNR grant application deadline
1. Flyer on Indiana Main Street'Conference
m. Brochure on IU Preservation Conference
ID
historicpreservation commission
of south bend and st. joseph county
ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING
south bend, indiana 46601 (219) 284-9798
AGENDA OF THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE
OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Tuesday, September 18, 1990 Location to be Announced
I.. Call to. -Order
II. Roll Call
III. Interviews
A. Suzanne Booker for position of Architectural Surveyor II
B. Elaine Lawson for position of Architectural Surveyor III
IV. Discussion of Guidelines for Staff
V. Adjournment
Computer Training
Our new software is more complicated than anticipated. The
manuals are helpful, but do not answer some of our job -specific
questions. I have contacted the Tandy Business Center, which
sold us the software. They provide one -day training seminars
which last from 10AM to 5pM. Unfortunately, these seminars cost
$130.00 per person. We have significant funds in our budget to
cover the cost of such training for two staff members, as we have
not attended many conferences this year (nor do I see us
attending more than one or two).
While we are capable of reading the manual and implementing the
Processes described therein, we believe that hands on training
would speed up the process and allow us to utilize the full
capacity of the software sooner.
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ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING
south bend, indiana 46601 (219) 284-9798
September 12, 1990
Honorable Commissioners:
We request permission for James Pastor to attend the Cornelius O'Brien Conference on
Historic Preservation in Porter County, IN on October 12 & 13, with food, lodging,
registration and mileage not to exceed $160.00.
Sincerely,
ri A. Dixon, Director
storic Preservation Commission
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ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING
south bend, indiana 46601 (219) 284-9798
September 12, 1990
Please be advised that your petition for a Certificate of Appropriateness will
be reviewed on Monday, September 17, 1990 at.7:30 p.m. at the regular monthly
meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission. You, or your designee, should
plan to attend to answer any questions which the Commission may have regarding
your project. The meeting will.be held in Conference Room A, on the 3rd floor
of the County/City Building, South Bend, Indiana. If the Commission has requested
additional materials or information from you, please bring them to the meeting.
Sincerely,
The Historic Preservation Commission
Notes from Personnel Committee Meeting
September 18, 1990
Members Present: John'Oxian, Jean Dennen (acting on behalf of rest
of.committee members), James Pastor -Survey Manager,
Lori Dixon - Director.
Members Absent: Martha Choitz, Joann Sporleder, Odell Newburn
Mr. Oxian and Mrs. Dixon (Director) interviewed Suzanne Booker, with the
intention of promoting her to the position of Architectural Surveyor.
Ms. Booker indicated her interest in the position and has demonstrated
the necessary skills for the job. Mr. Oxian and Mrs. Dixon agreed to
promote her, pending appropriate approval from the County Commissioners.
Mr. Oxian and Mrs. Dixon interviewed Elaine Lawson, with the intention of
promoting her to the position of Architectural Surveyor III. Ms. Lawson had
assisted the staff on a temporary basis during the completion of the last
survey and has demonstrated the necessary skills for the job. Mr. Oxian
and Mrs. Dixon agreed to promote her, pending approval of the County Commissioners.
Mr. Oxian, Mr. James Pastor (Survey Manager), Mrs. Dennen, and Mrs. Dixon then
discussed guidelines for the staff regarding hours of service and policies for
vacation time. Mr. Oxian stated that he felt the hourly contractual staff
should have a clause in their contracts allotting five (5) vacation days
per year. Currently the hourly staff has no vacation time designated.
Mrs. Dixon and Mr. Pastor agreed to this addendum to the contracts.
The hours of employment stated on the contracts are 9:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.
Monday through Friday, or as otherwise arranged with the Commission (in order
to accommodate school schedules). Mrs.0Dixon,:stated:that there had been
some problem with the staff coming in at all hours. Mr. Oxian suggested that
anincentive should be included in the policy whereby tardiness results in
decreased wages for the day in half-hour increments. Mr. Pastor and Mrs. Dixon,
as well as Mrs. Dennen all agreed that such penalties ought to be effective.
Mr. Pastor stated that some controversy exists over the necessity of returning
to the office at the end of the day for those staff members in the field. Mr.
Oxian suggested that the staff members meet and designate one person to bring
materials back to the office and that the materials must by in the office
no later than 4:25 every day, as the office closes at 4:30. All agreed that this
would be a reasonable policy, but that ALL materials must be in the office,
regardless of whether one person or all staff members individually bring them in.
The policy for hourly staff was later. typed by Mrs. Dixon per this meeting and
distributed to.the staff, the County Personnel office,and to Mr. Oxian and
members of the Personnel Committee; effective September 20, 1990.
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