HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober 1990AGENDA OF THE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING
OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION CCMISSION
Conference Room A, 3rd Floor County/City Building
7:30 p.m. Regular Monthly Meeting
October 15, 1990
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness --(Review)
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes --September 17,1990
B. Treasurer's Report --September 1990
C. Correspondence
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness --(Report)
a. East Wayne Street Parkways -- UID
b. Edgewater Drive Park Trees -- LRD
c. C. of A. Procedure
2. Budget & Finance
3. Legal
4. Historic Districts
5. Historic Landmarks
8. Public Relations & Community Education
7. Personnel
a. Promotion of two staff members
8. Staff Reports
a. Main Street Conference
V. Old Business
VI. New Business
VII. Hearing of Visitors
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
IX. Adjournment
MINUTES
Third Floor Conference Room County/City Building
7:30 p.m. --Regular Monthly Meeting
September 17, 1990
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:37 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Members Present: Mr. John Oxian, Mrs. Janeanne
Petrass, Mr. Odell Newburn, Mr. Jed Eide, Mr. Herb
Herendeen, Mrs. Jean Dennen, Mrs. Lori Dixon -
Director, Mr. James Pastor - Survey Manager, Ms.
Aladeen DeRose - City Attorney.
Members Absent: Mrs. Martha Choitz, Mr. F. Jay Nimtz,
Mrs. Joan Sporleder.
Others Present: Barbara Steele - Southhold
Restorations; Mr. Jon Gochenaur - 63907 Bremen
Highway; Mr. Kevin Boughal - South Bend Tribune.
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1. 1216 E. Wayne St. North --EW
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owner proposed
to install a picket fence of red cedar, 42"
tall, in the back yard by the garage area.
The fence would not come up to the setback
of the house. After some discussion
regarding the exact location of the fence,
Mr. Newburn moved to approve the fence as
indicated on the C. of A.; Mrs. Petrass
seconded. Motion approved.
2. 63907 Bremen Highway --LL
(Tabled from August meeting)
Mrs. Dixon introduced Mr. Gochenaur
(owner). Mr. Gochenaur submitted revised
drawings indicating the details and
dimensions of the new porch. The plan
followed recommendations made by the
commission (via drawings from Mr. Eide)
with the exception of the post style. The
posts are to be square at top and bottom
with a turned section in the center. The
railing was set at 30".
Mr. Eide questioned the lack of opening in
the railing at the front entrance. Mr.
Gochenaur explained that the front door is
not used for entry to the house, as most
persons use the side door off of the
driveway (where the entrance is located on
the porch plan) .
Mr. Gochenaur further stated that the
original porch wrapped around the front to
the south, but that remodeling done since
that porch was removed placed a chimney on
the south side, thus preventing the
construction of such a porch now.
Gochenaurs plan to install rectangular
lattice below the porch floor in front of
the foundation. Mr. Eide recommended that
Gochenaurs seek roofing shingles made
especially for flat or low-pitched roofs.
Mr. Eide further stated that he would
rather see the front opened to permit entry
from that direction. Mrs. Dennen asked if
there were steps leading up to the front
door. Mr. Gochenaur stated that brick
steps had been placed in front of the door
by a previous owner, but that they had been
replaced.
Mrs. Dennen asked if the shutters would be
hinged. Mr. Gochenaur replied that they
would not.
Mrs. Petrass stated that she would like to
see an entry onto the porch in the front.
Mr. Eide asked if the owners felt strongly
about keeping the porch enclosed across the
front, stating that the Commission was
thinking of the appearance from the street
and not the function of the front door as
the main entry. Mr. Gochenaur stated that
he did not feel that strongly about it.
Mr. Eide stated that it would look better
to have an opening in front.
Mr. Eide moved that the plan be approved,
recommending that the steps be retained in
the front rather than putting the railing
all way across. Mrs. Dennen seconded.
Motion approved.
IV. Regular Business
A. Minutes - August 20, 1990
Mr. Oxian made two corrections to the minutes.
Mr. Newburn moved to approve the minutes as
corrected; Mr. Eide seconded. Motion approved.
The proposal was tabled until the
October meeting to allow further input
from the Commission members.
2. Budget & Finance
No Report.
3. Legal
Ms. DeR.ose reported on a letter sent to
Commission members regarding the
Commission's liability for unsafe
structures. She stated that the Commission
is not liable for anything covered by
another agency of the city government
unless the Commission specifically makes
safety factors a condition.
She suggested that the Certificate of
Appropriateness contain a disclaimer to
back up this policy. If safety is made a
condition of the Certificate, then the
Commission is liable. The Commission must
make its decisions based on historic
authenticity, whether safety is a concern
or not.
Mr. Herendeen moved to add a disclaimer to
the Certificates of Appropriateness stating
that the decision of the Commission in no
way indicates the project's compliance with
safety and code standards; Mrs. Dennen
seconded. Motion approved.
4. Historic Districts
a) East Wayne Trees
Mrs. Dennen and Mr. Eide stated that
the district would be getting
approximately forty trees through the
city's neighborhood grant. The trees
are to be planted in the treelawn.
5. Historic Landmarks
a) 723 Park Avenue
Mr. Oxian gave second reading on 723
Park Avenue. Mrs. Petrass moved to
approve granting landmark status; Mr.
Eide seconded. Motion approved.
6. Public Relations & Community Education
No Report
7. Personnel
a) Personnel Committee Meeting
Mrs. Dixon announced that the Personnel
B. Treasurer's Report - August 1990
Mrs. Petrass moved to file the treasurer's report
for audit; Mrs. Dennen seconded; motion approved.
C. Correspondence
Mrs. Dixon submitted the correspondence for
review by the Commission.
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness
a. Mrs. Dixon submitted a draft of a new
Certificate of Appropriateness policy
to the Commission for their review.
The policy would be of greater detail
than existing policy. Mr. Oxian stated
that the adoption of this procedure
would be as an amendment to the
original procedure as stated in the
preservation plan book. He further
stated that we would want to look at
court cases which have been won or lost
because of a commission's adherence to
set policies and procedures. He stated
that he felt that this procedure was
better because it was more detailed
than the existing policy.
Mr. Eide stated that he would put his
comments in writing. Mrs. Dixon stated
that the Commission should review the
proposal and provide the staff with any
comments they wish to make before the
next meeting.
Ms. DeRose requested a copy of the
draft. Mrs. Dixon stated that she
would provide her with such.
Mrs. Petrass asked if the Commission
had a time frame on the current policy.
Mrs. Dixon stated that the Commission
is required to act within thirty days
from the application for a C. of A.
but the applicant did not have a
deadline for submitting an application
in order to be included on the agenda
of the next meeting.
Mr. Eide asked if the proposed policy
corresponded with the building permit
requirements in any way. Mrs. Dixon
stated that she believed the policy was
similar, but would check to be certain.
Committee would be meeting the next
afternoon (9/18/90) and stated that she
would welcome the attendance of any
commission members.
b) Computer Training
Mrs. Dixon requested permission for Mr.
Pastor and herself to attend a training
session on the Q&A Database, which is
the software system purchased by the
Commission for its data filing system.
The price of the training is $129.95
per person, which Mrs. Dixon stated was
a bit steep, but worth the expense if
it allowed the staff to get more use
from the computer more quickly.
Mr. Newburn reminded the staff that
such an expenditure would be an in-line
transfer. Mr. Herendeen moved that the
staff be allowed to make that
expenditure and to attend the
conference; Mrs. Petrass seconded.
Motion approved.
8. Staff Reports
a. Permission to attend IU Conference
Mrs. Dixon requested permission to send
Mr. Pastor to the IU Preservation
Conference in Porter County on October
12 and 13. Mr. Oxian stated that if
approval was given, he wanted a written
report of the conference from Mr.
Pastor.
Mr. Newburn moved to approve sending
Mr. Pastor to the conference; Mr.
Herendeen seconded. Motion approved.
b. Magnetic Signs
Mr. Pastor requested permission to
purchase two sets of magnetic signs for
use on staff cars when performing their
duties for the Commission. He stated
that ID cards do not help much because
most people do not wish to ask the
staff what they are doing, or do not
believe the answer they get. Mrs.
Dixon stated that the Commission should
get two pairs of signs, to accommodate
both sides of two cars.
Mr. Pastor showed sample materials from
the company with the low bid. He
stated that the Commission name is too
long for use. It was suggested that
Historic Preservation Commission be
used, along with the phone number.
Mr. Herendeen recommended that the
Commission go with silk screening,
perhaps with the city and/or county
seal. Mr. Oxian suggested that the
staff check with the city sign
department to see if they have a silk
screen of the seal already on file.
V. Old Business
VI. New Business
a) Photo Processing
Mr. Pastor presented options on how the Commission
might handle its photo processing in the future.
He suggested that the Commission send the film to
Dill's Camera Shop for the processing of the film
to negatives, then contracting with Leigh Booker
(separately contracted from her current contract as
surveyor) to prepare the negatives and develop the
contact prints.
Mr. Herendeen asked about the archival stability of
the photo processing. Mr. Pastor stated that it
would be similar to those which have been processed
in the past, but that none of these is up to the
State standards, which recommend the use of fiber
paper for developing archivally stable prints. Mr.
Pastor stated that it would be more expensive to
have the prints made on fiber paper due to the
method of processing (roll drum).
Mr. Newburn suggested that the records be placed on
microfilm.
Mr. Pastor stated that he could check with camera
stores and other professionals to discern what
difference exists between the archival stability of
resin coated paper and that of fiber paper. If
there is little difference, the savings of the
proposed plan 3 (to have'dills develop the film and
have Leigh Booker develop the prints from the
negatives) would be significant.
VII. Hearing of Visitors
No Report
VIII. Announcements
No Report
IX. Adjournment
and Miscellaneous Matters
The meeting adjourned at 8:46 p.m.
CORRESPONDENCE
a.) Brochure from the National Historical Society
b.) Preservation News September 1990
c.) Light Impressions Fall 1990 Catalogue
d.) The Fidelity Graphic Arts Catalog
e.) Solicitation from Instant Copy
f.) Invitation to attend the dedication of the Leighton Gallery
and Copshaholm
g.) Recycl_ing Today_ Magazine
h.) Southhold Newsletter August/September 1990
i.) Invitation to Southhold"s 30th Birthday, in Indianapolis.
j.) Brochure for "Selling Michiana" conference
k.) Copy of article "Rehab Takes a Fall" from Historic
Preservation Magazine
1.) Second solicitation from Instant Copy
m.) Common_Bond Summer 1990, Vol. 6, No. 3
n.) CRM Bulletin September 1990
o.) PreservationForum Newsletter September 1990
p.) Indiana Main Street Missive. July/August 1990
q.) Preservation Law Updates 1990-33, 1990-35
r.) PLR Advance September 1990
s.) MACIAF Monitor September 1990, October 1990
t.) MACIAF Plan Room September 10, 17, & 24; October 1, 1990
Certificate of Ap.pro.
.ri.ateness_.Procedures
.
All Certificate of Appropriateness (C. of A.) applications
require:
1. List of materials to be used.
2. Detailed written description of project, including
dimensions of the item being constructed or the area
being planted (include manufacturer's brochures, specs,
etc. when applicable).
3. Photograph of site - available from Historic
Preservation Commission.
4. $3.00 Certificate of Appropriateness permit fee.
In addition, the following types of projects require further
information:
S. In-kind replacement requires a list of materials being
replaced as well as a list of new materials to be used.
6. Landscape alterations require a site plan showing the
dimensions of the project area and its relationship to
the main structure(s).
7. All other projects, including reconstruction, new
construction, and replacement which is not identical to
the existing element of the structure or does not
currently exist but is known to have existed in the
past, require all items listed in 1 through 6 above, as
well as drawings in plan and elevation, drawn to scale,
with dimensions specified as appropriate.
An application will be considered complete only when all
pertinent information has been received in the Commission office.
At that time, the application will be placed on the agenda of the
next C. of A. Committee meeting or full Commission meeting,
whichever comes first. The Commission will act within thirty
(30) days after receipt of the COMPLETED application.
All completed applications received before 4:00 p.m. the first
Friday of the month will be placed on the agenda for that month.
All applications received after that time will be placed on the
agenda of the next committee or Commission meeting.
Failure to comply with these procedures may cause significant
delay in your project. To avoid costly delays, we recommend that
Property owners not contract with workers until they have
received all applicable approval.
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS
All Certificates of Appropriateness require the following:
1. Detailed written description of project, including dimensions of
the item being constructed or the area being landscaped. Include
manufacturer's brochures, specs, etc. when applicable.
2. List of materials to be used.
3. Photograph of the site - available from the HPC.
4. $3.00 Certificate of Appropriateness permit fee.
In addition to the items listed above, larger projects which
include additions or alterations to the structures must include
the following:
5. Site Plan showing property lines, setbacks, the new work, existing
buildings, porches, large trees, walks and paved areas, walls,
fences, and any other significant feature of the site. Suggested
scale: 1" = 20'
6. Plan of the proposed work with dimensions and materials noted.
Recommended scale: 1/4" = 1'-0"
7. Elevations of the building showing the existing building along
with the proposed addition or modification. A minimum of two
elevations are required for additions.
Recommended scale:1/4" = 1'-0"
Note: Drawings must be drawn to scale and are best prepared by
someone with experience with this type of drawing.
Optional SuuaortinLr Material:
Any other material which helps describe the project. Examples
include:
Three-dimensional drawings or renderings
Models
Detailed drawings of building ornament
Photographs of similar completed projects or historical examples
Written specifications
An application will be considered complete only when all pertinent
information has been received in the Commission office. At that time,
the application will be placed on the agenda of the next C. of A.
Committee meeting or full Commission meeting. The Commission will act
within thirty (30 days after receipt of the COMPLETED application.
All completed applications received before 4:00 p.m. the first Friday
of the month will be placed on the agenda for that month. All
applications received after that time will be placed on the agenda of
the next committee or Commission meeting.
Failure to comply with these procedures may cause significant delay in
your project. To avoid costly delays, we recommend that property
owners not contract with workers until they have received all
applicable approval.