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• of south bend and st. joseph county
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MINUTES
Third Floor Conference Room
7:30 p.m.
August 20, 1990
ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING
south bend, indiana 46601 (219) 284-9798
County/City Building
Regular Monthly Meeting
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:37 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Members Present: Mr. Jed Eide, Mr. Herb Herendeen, Mrs. Martha Choitz,
Mr. John Oxian, Mr. F. Jay Nimtz, Mr. James Pastor -
Survey Manager, Mrs. Lori Dixon -Director, Ms.
Aladeen DeRose-City Attorney's Representative.
Others Present: Mr. Michael Blair, Ms. Cynthia Maravolo, Mr. Dean
Maravolo, Mr. David R. Vaugh, Mr. Kevin Boughal-
South Bend Tribune.
Members Absent: Mr. Odell Newburn, Mrs. Jean Dennen, Mrs. Janeanne
Petrass, Mrs. Joann Sporleder.
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
1. 619 Edgewater
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owner had been provided forms
from the DNR for their permission -to install a pier. The
resident requested some form of guideline for what type
of structure would be permissible.
Mr. Oxian recommended that the owner develop a plan for
the structure, then present it to the Commission or a
committee thereof. Then, the Commission would be backing
the plan that he would submit to the DNR.
Mrs. Choitz asked about the size intended by the resident.
The resident stated that he would like to get into deeper
water, and construct a pier and deck -like structure which
would have a drawbridge so that uninvited persons could
not obtain access to his boat and equipment, but he needs
to find out how far into the waterway before he can design
the pier.
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Mrs. Dixon requested that the resident find out from the •
DNR what dimensions they will permit, draft up a plan,
and present it to the committee.
The resident asked if he could have any size or materials
approved by the DNR which would not be approved by the
HPC. Mr. Oxian stated that we needed a plan to approve.
Mr. Herendeen stated that no reasonable plan would be
denied, but the- HPC: must, review it(,under the guidelines
of the District.
Mr. Blair (the resident) mentioned that he had requested
that the owner (Kevin Smith) not proceed with the plans,
approved by the HPC, to install a pipe railing along the
top of the boat launch. Mr. Oxian stated that the reason
a pipe railing was decided upon was that Mr. Smith originally
did not want to install any type of barrier between the
street level and the launch. He further stated that the
Commission did not want a possible law suit if someone
fell over the edge and hurt themselves on the launch which
was approved by the HPC.
A citizen asked what was to stop a citizen from falling
anywhere along the shoreline. Mr. Oxian pointed out that
the HPC has had nothing to do with any other shoreline
in the district except for those which had b EP"'brought
before the Commission for Certificates of Appropriateness. •
Mr. Blair asked that if he planted a hedge or shrub of
approximately 3ft., would that be acceptable. Mr. Oxian
stated that the Commission had suggested shrubbery originally
but the owner did not approve that suggestion. Mr. Herendeen
suggested that the owner make a written proposal, complete
with drawings, and the Commission will review it.
2. 615 Edgewater
The owner requests permission to install a deck along
the river bank, constructed of landscaping timbers, as
per the drawings submitted. The plans include a retaining
wall of the same material. The plan would fall with the
lay of the land. Mr. Oxian discussed the plan with the
owner, reviewing the drawing submitted. The shoreline
would not change, according to the owner, but the retaining wall
would be built up against the slope of the shore.
Mr. Eide reviewed the drawing while Mrs. Choitz asked
about protective barriers similar to those required of
619 Edgewater (see 1. above). The owner stated that they
would be happy to continue whatever 619 Edgewater installs
as a barrier.
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Mr. Eide stated that if the drop is more than 30 inches,
• some barrier must be installed of at least 42 inches.
Ms. DeRose stated that the HPC's purpose is not to determine
safety. Mr. Herendeen asked if the HPC could make a disclaimer
regarding the safety of the project. Mr. Oxian stated
that it is within the Commission's ordinance, it is stated
that the Commission must take into account public safety
and welfare.
Mr. Eide made suggestions to the draftsman and owner of
the property regarding changes to the plan which would
make it more aesthetically pleasing and safer for the
persons using it. These changes were incorporated into
the plan.
Mr. Oxian recommended that the HPC wait for DNR approval,
but approve the deck in concept, with the alterations
suggested by Mr. Eide. Mr. Herendeen moved that the deck
be approved upod:.. the .dondTttion, . that the deck meets all
safety requirements and DNR approval. Mrs. Choitz seconded
Mr. Herendeen stated that if any of Mr. Eide's suggestions
are varied from, the property owner is to notify the Commission.
Motion approved.
3. 553 & 549 River Avenue
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners proposed to construct
• a privacy fence between their two garages and recommended
to the Commission that the application be approved.
Mr. Nimtz moved that the application be approved as submitted.
Mrs. Choitz seconded. Mr. Oxian asked how high the fence
would be, and Mrs.. Dixon reported that it would be six
feet tall. Motion approved.
4. 63907 Bremen Highway
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owner's wanted to add a porch
to the house. The porch will wrap around the north and
east 'sides. Mrs. Dixon submitted the drawings of the
porch, supplied by the owners, to the Commission for discussion.
Mr. Oxian stated that he would like to know what the original
porch looked like. Mr. Nimtz asked if the HPC had such
a record. Mrs. Dixon read a former C. of A. stating that
the former porch would be removed and replaced with a
stoop.
Realizing that the new owners were not aware of the structure's
architectural past, Mr. Herendeed moved that the application
be tabled and that the owners be notified of the Commission's
decision (that the porch is not in keeping with the Italianate
style of the house), and given guidelines, photographs,
etc. from which to develop a new plan. Mrs. Choitz seconded.
• Motion approved. Mrs. Dixon stated that she would explain
the Commission's reasons for tabling the proposal and
offer assistance in developing a new plan.
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes --July 16,,1990 •
Mr. Oxian asked that Part IV, D, 7, b be amended to state that
Mr. Oxian was to speak with the Research Assistant and determine
whether or not the letter submitted to the Executive Committee
was, in fact, her letter of resignation.
Mr. Nimtz moved to approve the minutes as amended. Mr. Herendeen
seconded. Motion approved.
B. Treasurers Report
Mrs. Dixon stated that she would have a full budget report
and grant projections later. Mr. Herendeen moved to approve.
Mss:i(Choitz seconded. Motion approved.
Mr. Nimtz asked why the HPC returned grant monies in the last
year. Mrs. Dixon stated that the office was under -staffed
thus leaving some of the monies allotted for personnel unexpended.
C. Correspondence
See Page 8
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness (Reports)
.h. 405 W. Wayne
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners planned to install
an air conditioning compressor along the side of •
the house, toward the rear, not to be visible from
the street. She spoke to Mr. Oxian about the project
before approving it.
b. 729 Cottage Grove
The owner proposed to replace an aluminum garage
door with a wooden tri -paneled door, for which staff
approval was given.
C. 509 Edgewater Dr.
The owner proposed to replace roofing on the body
of the house in-kind with 3 -in -1 shingles to match
roofing on the porch. Proposals for new guttering
and fencing were .tabled by the staff until further
information was provided by the owner.
d. 1425 E. Wayne
The owner proposed to remove roofing and replace
in-kind. Mr. Oxian approved the C. of A. while Mrs.
Dixon was out of the office.
e. 344 S. Sunnyside
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners proposed construction
of a new fence behind shrubbery (at setback of house).
This was also staff approved. •
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2. Budget & Finance
• a. Community Development Block Grant Proposal
Mrs. Dixon reported that, at the Commission's direction,
she had turned in a proposal for $13,650 in grant
funding from the city and that the Commission should
hear something on it within the next two months.
3. Legal
a. New City Attorney's representative.
Aladean DeRose introduced herself as city attorney
representative to the HPC.
4. Historic Districts
No Report
5. Historic Landmarks
a. 723 Park Avenue
Mr. Oxian gave first reading on the landmark request.
Mr. Oxian further reported -that the' -properties at 1533
Lincoln Way West and 119 LaPorte Ave. had been declared
local landmarks at the last Common Council meeting. He
also reported that the owners of the Cunningham House
had filed forms for facade easement. Mr. Oxian met with
the Auditor of the County and they sent the forms on to
the state tax review board.
6. Public Relations and Community Education
No Report
7. Personnel
a. Report of Committee Meeting
The Commission will be writing a proposal for an
plc internship program. Mr. Oxian also stated that he
would like to see better guidelines for writing histories
of structures on the survey cards.
8. Staff Report
a. Bi -Monthly Report
Mrs. Dixon stated that the Bi -Monthly Report (see
page 10) was brief due to the large amount of time
spent finishing the grant. Mr. Pastor will be providing
bi-monthly reports in the future.
V. Old Business
1. Trees on Lincoln Way West
Mr. Oxian reported that an ordinance would be sent to the County
Council seeking landmark status for the twelve or so large
oak trees along Lincoln Way West.
2. Trees on Edison
Mr. Oxian reported that only two trees along Edison would be
removed, rather than the nine as originally reported. Mrs.
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Dixon reported that she has asked the architect on the project
to supply the Commission with a letter designating which trees
are to be removed.
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3. Bricadx Stnreetl3wi i (-(i i ) <: i i 1 ( c :; i y , ( : .: ,J 1:
Mr. Oxian reported that the c1ty sent a letter the the HPC •
stating that no brick street exists under Edgewater
Mr. Herendeen asked if the HPC could not take some kind of
action to preserve Colfax Avenue before something happens to
it. Mrs. Choitz suggested that the Commission take similar
action as with the trees.
4(. Streetlights
Mr. Eide asked about the Streetlight committee's recommendations.
Mr. Oxian stated that he had been responsible for the delay
in action of that committee. The Committee proposed specific,
poles, fixtures, and bulbs. There was disagreement on tyre
f'o means o4 financing, so the committee decided to submit their
"recommendations for fixtures, etc. first, then submit a second
proposal regarding financing.
VI. New Business
No Report
VII. Hearing of Visitors
No Report
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
No Report
IX. Adjournment •
Mrs: Herendeen moved to adjourn. Mr. Eide seconded. Motion approved.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
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August 6, 1990
Katherine Humphries
Dept. of Administration & Finance
14th Floor, County/City Bldg.
South Bend, IN 46601
Dear Ms. Humphreys:
At the recommendation of Jon Hunt, I am again writing to request
funding for the Historic Preservation Commission within the city
budget. As per your letter of February 1, 1990, I realize that
the city has a very tight budget structure, but I would like to
place our organization into the hat in the off chance that monies
should become available as the 1991 budget process is reviewed.
We will continue to apply for Community Development monies until
we are notified that the city will be able to offer funding from
its own budget.
Thank you for your consideration of this matter.
Sincerely,
Lori A. Dixon
Director
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• August 7, 1990
John Leszczynski, Director
City Engineering
13th Floor, County/City Bldg.
South Bend, IN 46601
Dear Mr. Leszczynski:
I am writing in regard to the sewer replacement project on
Edgewater Drive. It is our understanding from John Fisher that,
if any bricks are under the existing pavement, it would be too
costly to replace them under the new roadway. The Certificate of
Appropriateness granted for the project stipulates that the brick
is to be re -used under the roadway, or at least salvaged. We
have heard rumors that the contractors will receive the brick for
their use on other projects. This was not our intent in
approving the original Certificate of Appropriateness.
Therefore, we request, as has been the agreement between our two
offices in the past, that the brick be salvaged and retained by
the city for use in the repair of existing brick streets
elsewhere in the city.
We would appreciate a letter from your office acknowledging such
an agreement or explaining why such an agreement is not possible.
Thank you for your assistance and cooperation.
Sincerely,
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John H. Oxian
President
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Karl T. Stevens, Superintendent
Dept. of Parks & Recreation
301 S. St. Louis Blvd.
South Bend, IN 46617
Dear Mr. Stevens:
We have received reports from residents in our historic districts
that the forester for the parks department has been granting
permission to remove trees from areas within historic districts.
Please ask your forester to keep in mind that property owners
(and the city, on public lands) must obtain a Certificate of
Appropriateness for any tree removal, even those which are
obviously beyond saving. The purpose of such permits is
two -fold: first, to retain a record of the plantings in the area,
and second, to avoid any conflict between the commission and the
residents. If residents are allowed to remove trees which are
believed to be dead without a permit, we may soon have residents
removing trees because only one branch is dead. If we required a
permit of the second, but not the first scenario, the residents
could claim that our decisions were arbitrary and unfair.
Therefore, please remind your forester of the Certificate of
Appropriateness policy. If you have any questions regarding the
boundaries of our local historic districts, please contact our
office.
Thank you for your cooperation.
Sincerely,
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John H. Oxian
President
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND AND ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
• Room 1123 County City Building
South Bend, Indiana 46601
Phone (219) 284-9798
August 8, 1990
Ken Herceg
Ken Herceg & Associates, Inc.
425 N. Michigan St.
South Bend, IN 46601
Dear Mr. Herceg:
I spoke with your associate, Mr. Keller, last week regarding the Edison Road project.
Specifically, we discussed the new plan to route the widening around the several
large trees between'Ironwood and Rosemary.
The Commission has asked that I request a letter from you, or Mr. Keller, stating
that the current plan is to retain seven of the nine trees and giving an approximate
location of the two trees to be removed.
We appreciate your assistance and look forward to hearing from you in the near future.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
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Lori A. Dixon
Director
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• HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION OF SOUTH BEND AND ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
Room 1123 County City Building
South Bend, Indiana 46601
Phone (219) 284-9798
August 10, 1990
Wanda Baxter -Potter
EIS Environmental Engineers, Inc.
1701 N. Ironwood Dr.
South Bend, IN 46635
Dear Ms. Baxter -Potter=
Our records do not indicate the existance of any historic sites
within the Proposed affected area. We do, however, show an
historic property listed on the southwest corner of the
intersection.of Douglas Rd, and St. Rd. 23 (see .survey card
• enclosed)_ Unless the project will affect the,a�orementioned
property, it does not seem that the project will impact historic
Properties listed with the Historic Preservation Commission of
South Bend and St. Joseph County.
Thank you for contacting our office regarding the EA. If you
have any questions, please contact Lori Dixon at 284-9798.
Sincerely,
*Lri A. Dixon
Director
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City of South Bend
Joseph E. Kernan, Mayor
Department of Public Works
John E. Leszczynski, Director
August 10, 1990
Mr. John Oxian
Historic Preservation Commission
11th Floor, County—City Building
South Bend, IN 46601
Dear Mr. Oxian:
Thank you for your letter about Edgewater Drive sewer. Our records and
actual construction indicates that Edgewater Drive was never a brick
street and no bricks have been uncovered.
If we can be of further assistance, please give me a call at your
convenience.
JEL:slc
Engineering
Michael Meeks, P.E.
284-9251
FAX (219) 284-9171
Sincerely,
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John E. Leszczynski
Director
County -City Building • South Bend, Indiana 46601 • 219/284-9251
Environmental Services
John J. Dillon, Ph. D.
277-8515
FAX (219) 277-8980
Equipment Services
Phil St. Clair
284-9316
FAX (219) 284-9007
Transportation
Bill Penn
284-9444
FAX (219) 284-9007
Water Works
Joseph Agostino
284-9322
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AGENDA OF THE REGULAR
MONTHLY MEETING
OF THE
HISTORIC PRESERVATION CCMMISSION
Conference Room A, 3rd Floor County/City Building
7:30 p.m. Regular Monthly Meeting
August 20, 1990
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness --(Review)
1. 619 Edgewater - ED r`
2. 605 Edgewater - ED
3. 553 & 549 River Ave. - ED
IV. Regular Business
A. Approval of Minutes --July 16, 1990
B. Treasurer's Report --July 1990
C. Correspondence
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness --(Report)
a. 405 W. Wayne - LL
b. 729 Cottage Grove - LL
• c. 509 Edgewater Dr. - ED
d. 1425 E. Wayne - EW
e. 344 S. Sunnyside - EW
2. Budget & Finance
a. Community Development Grant proposal
3. Legal
4. Historic Districts
5. Historic Landmarks
a. 723 Park Ave. - 1st Reading
6. Public Relations & Community Education
7. Personnel
a. Report of Committee Meeting
8. Staff Reports
a. Bi Monthly Report
V. Old Business
VI. New Business
VII. Hearing of Visitors
VIII. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
IX. Adjournment
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STAFF REPORT
• Mike Blair, resident
619 Edgewater Dr.
South Bend, IN 46618
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PROPOSAL
Part I: The resident proposes, with the owner's permission, to
install a pier at the site of the boat landing (constructed under
a previous c. of a.).
Part II: The owner also proposes
of the boat landing, rather than
previously requested.
planting shrubbery along the top
installing a railing, as was
STANDARDS
Environment:
Recommended•
If erosion control efforts become necessary to preserve the
riverbank, they should involve processes and materials
consistent with the natural beauty of the banks. The
development of boat landings, access points, scenic overlooks
or terraces should be done in such a way as to avoid
obstructing the view of the river and its banks.
Prohibited:
In erosion control
concrete, concrete
unsightly material
efforts to preserve the riverbank, poured
slabs, concrete building blocks or other
shall not be used.
RECOMMENDATION
The staff recommends that the owner be permitted to install the
pier, pending approval of the state Department of Natural
Resources (resident will be required to show proof of approval
from DNR prior to receiving signed Certificate of
Appropriateness).
The staff further recommends that the owner be permitted to
install shrubbery along the top of the boat launch, rather than
the railing approved earlier, to provide a barrier between the
street and the drop-off of the boat launch. This shrubbery
should be no taller than three feet and shall be installed as
soon as possible.
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Cynthia Maravolo
615 Edgewater Dr.
South Bend, IN 46618
PROPOSAL
The owner proposes to construct a deck (see plan drawing) along
the edge of the riverbank, using 4x4 landscaping timbers.
STANDARDS
Environment:
Recommended:
If erosion control efforts become necessary to preserve the
riverbank, they should involve processes and materials
consistent with the natural beauty of the banks. The
development of boat landings, access points. scenic overlooks
or terraces should be done in such a way as to avoid
obstructing the view of the river and its banks.
Prohibited:
In erosion. control efforts to preserve the riverbank, poured
concrete, concrete slabs, concrete building blocks or other
unsightly material shall not be used.
RECOMMENDATION
• The staff recommends that the owner be permitted to construct the
deck, pending approval from the state Department of Natural
Resources, providing that the deck is not readily visible from
the street. Owner will be required to provide proof of approval
from DNR prior to receiving signed Certificate of
Appropriateness.
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STAFF__._REPOR7.
553 & 549 River Ave.
South Bend, IN 46618
PROPOSAL.
The owners of the'se two properties propose to construct a 6'
privacy fence between their two garages along the alley. The
materials used will be 6" wolmanized lumber, squared off at the
top.
STANDARDS:
Recommended.
New site work should be based upon actual knowledge of the past
appearance of the property found in photographs, drawings and
newspapers. New site work should also be appropriate to existing
surrounding site elements in scale, type and appearance.
RECOMMENDATIONS.
The staff recommends that the property owners be permitted to
construct the fence, upon meeting all requirements of the
building department. The majority of the property owners in that
area of the district have privacy fences along the alleyway, so
such a fence would be in keeping with similar elements in the
distric.
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0 JULY 1990 EXPENDITURES
GRAN7.5_
M. Wikman
July
1-14,
1990
455.00
J. Pastor
July
1-14,
1990
576.92
L. Booker
July
1-14,
1990
500.00
S. Booker
July
1-14,
1990
447.00
M. Wikman
July
15-27,
1990
487.00
J. Pastor
July
15-31,
1990
576.92
L. Booker
July
15-21,
1990
250.00
COUNTY
Mailing
June,
1990
21.15
Supplies
June,
1990
88.62
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• REPORTS ON APPROVED C. OF A.s -- JULY/AUGUST 1990
1. 405 W. Wayne -- LL
Property owner requested permission to install an air
compressor for a new central air conditioning system along
the west side of the house to the rear. Upon consulting with
Mr. Oxian, permission was granted.
2. 729 Cottage Grove -- LL
Property owner requested permission to replace fiberglass
garage door with three -panel wooden door of same size. Upon
review of standards, permission was granted.
3. 509 Edgewater Dr. -- ED
Property owner requested permission to replace roofing on the
body of the house with a light green 3 -in -1 shingle, to match
the porch roof. This is part I of a three-part c. of a. The
other two parts will go before the Commission upon receipt by
the staff of the appropriate information.
4. 1425 E. Wayne St. -- EW
Property owner requested permission to replace roofing on
house (three -tab asphalt) and replace in-kind. Mr. Oxian
approved this in the director's absence.
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5. 344 S. Sunnyside -- EW
New property owner requested permission to install 3 1/2'
picket fence to the south, west, and north of the house in
order to contain their dogs. The fence will, for the most
part, be concealed by shrubbery along the south and west, but
visible to the north. Upon review of the standards,
permission was granted.
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• Bi -Monthly Report
In the past two months the following has occurred.
- The survey and planning grants were completed and
submitted to the State.
- James Pastor was promoted to the position of Survey
Manager.
- Mary Wikman resigned as Research Assistant.
- The Community Development grant proposal was
submitted.
- The staff was reviewed for new contracts.
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AGENDA OF THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE MEETING
OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
OF SOUTH BEND AND ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Interview of Staff for Promotion
a) Suzanne Booker
IV. Discussion of new positions
a) Internships
b) Data Entry/Clerical staff
V. New Contracts
VI. Adjournment
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• M E M O R A N D U M
T0: HPC MEMBERS
FROM: LORI DIXON, DIRECTOR
RE: AUGUST MEETING
DATE: AUGUST 15, 1990
We will meet on August 20th at 7:30 p.m. at our usual place.
The Personnel Committee will need to be here at 7:00 p.m. to
interview Suzanne Booker (you will recall that Ms. Booker was
unable to attend the interview session earlier this month), and
to discuss a few other details. I have enclosed an agenda for
the committee meeting for those members to whom it pertains.
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CORRESPONDENCE
tiNgwsle�ter
from YWCA
Historic Preservation News, July 1990
C.
Light Impressions Winter 1990 catalogue
d.
CEWA advertisement for aerial photographic services
e.
1990 ed. Sec. of the Interior`s Standards for Rehabilitation
f.
Maciaf reports: July 23, July 30, August 6,
g.
Preservation Law Reporter comprehensive summary of 1989 cases
and new developments
h.
Light Impressions Midsummer 1990 catalogue
i.
Forum Newsletter, June 1990
j.
CareerTrack seminar brochures: "How to Make Presentations
That Win Approval"; and "How to Give Exceptional Customer
Service".
k.
Preservation Law Announcements and Updates: Nos. 1990-23, 24,
25, 26
1.
Maciaf Newsletter
M.
Tenex Computer Express flyer
n.
Preservation Forum Magazine, Summer 1990
o.
Preservation Press catalogue, Fall 1990
p.
Community Resource Center notice of Winter Wonderland
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Festival
q.
The Mortar Board, Vol. 1, No. 4 (St. Joseph Valley Masonry
Contractors)