HomeMy WebLinkAbout November 1990e
l
le d /ole,V X111 Ilev X e v %7,,4/
t -
7:30 p.m.
Regular Monthly Meeting
November
19, 1990 , ` i -
�Y'•. r f C G Cr a�n r v
x .
,
I.
Call to Order
II.
Roll Call
AGENDA OF THE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING
III.
Public Hearing''
-
OF THE
p✓
-z=
v
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
IV.
Regular Business
c '" ` ° r ^�'; .° `, r•sd ' « ;°` " , F
//J
/,`
Conference Room A, 3rd Floor County/City Building
7:30 p.m.
Regular Monthly Meeting
November
19, 1990 , ` i -
�Y'•. r f C G Cr a�n r v
I.
Call to Order
II.
Roll Call
ap,�
III.
Public Hearing''
-
1, 0,
A. Certificates of Appropriateness --(Review)
1. 1077 Riverside Dr. — RD
IV.
Regular Business
c '" ` ° r ^�'; .° `, r•sd ' « ;°` " , F
A. Approval of Minutes --October 15,1990
B. Treasurer's Report --October 1990
C. Correspondence
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness --(Report)
a. 1021 Riverside Dr. — RD
b. C. of A. Procedure
•
2. Budget & Finance
a. Request to purchase office equipment
3. Legal
4. Historic Districts
5. Historic Landmarks
6. Public Relations & Community Education
7. Personnel
8. Staff Reports
a. Main Street Conference
b. DHPA National Register Workshop
V.
Old Business
VI.
New Business
A. Goals and Objectives for 1991
VII.
Hearing of Visitors
VIII.
Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters
IX.
Adjournment
C:
•
11 MINUTES
Third Floor Conference Room County/City Building
7'30 p.m. --Regular Monthly Meeting
November 19, 1990
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:39 p.m.
II. Roll Call
Members Present: Mr. John Oxian, Mrs. Joann Sporleder,
Mrs.Janeanne Petrass, Mr. Herb Herendeen. Mrs. Martha
Choitz, Mrs. Lori Dixon - Director, Mr. James Pastor -
Survey Manager, Ms. Aladean DeRose - City Attornev.
Members Absent: Mr. Odell Newburn. Mr. F. Jay Nimtz,
Mr. Jed Eide, Mrs. Jean Dennen.
I.II. Public Hearing
A. Certificates of Appropriateness
No Report
IV. Regular Business
A. Minutes - October 15, 1990
Mrs. Sporleder stated that some grammatical errors
existed in the minutes and that perhaps they should
be proofed and corrected. Mr. Oxian stated that,
in the top paragraph on page 5, the grammar is
especially poor. He also stated that the
procedures were to be both written and followed.
rather that simply written, as stated in the
minutes. He also stated that, on page 6, last
paragraph, the first sentence does not read well.
Mrs. Sporleder suggested that the minutes be
summarized.
Mrs. Petrass pointed out that the full minutes are
of benefit to those who had been unable to attend a
previous meeting. Mr. Oxian remarked that the
longer version is also a better record of the
proceedings than an abbreviated version would be.
Mrs. Sporleder suggested that the motions be made
to stand out from the remainder of the discussion,
or indexed in some way. Mrs. Choitz suggested
keeping a separate tally of motions on the computer
and deleting them as the task involved is
• completed. She stated that this process works well
for her in other organizations with which she is
affiliated.
Mrs. Sporleder stated that an index would also save
Page 2
•
time in reviewing what actions have been taken on a
particular subject in the past.
In an aside, Mr. Oxian requested that the staff
take approximately six (b) Polaroid photographs of
the existing bronze plaques to be shown to
potential bidders for the contract. as discussed in
the October meeting.
Mrs. Sporleder moved to accept the minutes as
corrected; Mrs. Petrass seconded. Motion approved.
B. Treasurer's Report - October, 1990
Mrs. Sporleder asked about the method of reporting.
Mrs. Dixon stated that, until the ledger is set up
on the computer. -she is simply photocopying the
ledger book for the Commission members.
Mrs. Sporleder asked how much money remained in the
budget for 1990. Mrs. Dixon reported that as of
November 5, 1990, the auditor's office reported a
balance of $30,203.92. She further reported, in
response to Mrs. Sporleder's questions, that any
expenditures to come out of that budget must be
encumbered by December 14th, with the remainder of
the money to revert back to the County.
Mrs. Sporleder asked if the Commission had any
notion of how the money might be encumbered. Mrs.
Dixon replied that the Commission would not be able
to encumber all of it because it did not have
anything to expend that much money on. Some of the
money, hopefully, would be expended on office
equipment (coming up in a later portion of the
meeting).and supplies.
Mrs. Dixon then made a brief explanation of the
reason so much money was remaining. Mrs. Sporleder
asked that, at the December meeting, an overall
explanation of the budget for 1990 and 1991 be
provided to the commission.
Mrs. Choitz moved to accept the Treasurer's Report:
Mrs. Petrass seconded. Motion approved.
C. Correspondence
Mrs. Dixon submitted the correspondence for review
by the Commission. •
D. Committee Reports
1. Certificates of Appropriateness
a. 1021 Riverside Dr. -- RD
Mrs. Dixon reported that the owners had
•
Page 3
submitted a C. of A. application, which
had been staff approved at the
recommendation of Mr. Oxi.an, to remove
the asphalt shingles from their home to
reveal the original clapboard. The
application further stated that any
deteriorated clapboard would be replaced
in-kind'and the entire facade would be
stained. The Commission members reviewed
the photographs and application.
b. C. of A. Procedure
Ms. DeRose provided the Commission with a
revised C. of A. procedure document. The
document changed on1v in a few matters:
the statements regarding control of paint
color were removed. The notification
clause was clarified to indicate
compliance with the Open Door Law. and
the statement regarding placing stop work
orders on a proiect was clar.ifed to
indicate that the Building Commissioner
is the person who places stop work
orders.
Ms. DeRose stated that she sent a copy of
the proposed procedure to the legal
advisor for the Common Council and that.
on the advise of. the Council and the City
Attorney, she spoke to the Council's
legal advisor who stated that the Council
had not had the opportunity to review the
procedures. She did not expect them to
have a problem with them, but suggested
that the Commission wait to act upon the
procedures until the Council had reviewed
them more carefully.
Mrs. Sporleder asked, once the procedures
are in place. what does the Commission do
with them. Ms. DeRose stated that the
Commission, through its rule-making
authority, would vote on them as its
rules and regulations. Thew should then
be available at the office of the
Commission and should be sent to anvorie
who requests them.
Mrs. Dixon stated that thev would be sent
• initially to all owners residents of
local landmarks and properties within
local historic districts.
Mrs. Sporleder asked if a process had
ever been established through the
Page 4
.0
Auditor's office which would notify
property owners when they purchase a
property within a historic district or
which has been desiPnated a local
landmark. nor. O..ian stated that the only
process which went through was that the
Recorder's office was notified and that
the Recorders office keeps a list of
landmarks in order to notify property
owners as they come in for information,
etc.
Mr. Oxian pointed out that the reason the
landmark/district status was never
recorded on the deed is that the
Commission never had the money to do so.
He stated that perhaps the Commission
should expend the money at this time to
have them recorded once and for. all.
Mrs. Sporleder stated that another set of
procedures will need to be set which
would assure that the person who is
buying a property in a historic district
is notified of that fact, so that the
Commission is assured that the new owner
is aware of the status of their property
at the time of purchase.
Mrs. Choitz asked if Mrs. Sporleder meant
that the Recorder's office is to notify
the HPC that there is a new owner on the
property. , Mrs . Sporleder statedt
that was her intended implication. Mr-.
Choi.tz then remarked that -,he dial not
think that there was anvthing in the
procedure of. the .Recorder's office which
would allow them to do that.
Mr. Oxian reported that David Chapleau.
formerly of the City Attorney's office,
had at one time stated that it is the
responsibility of the property owner to
be aware of the status of their property,
and not the responsibility of the
Commission to notify the property owners.
Mr. Oxian suggested that he talk to the
Recorder's office to find out how the
deed could be tagged or marked regarding is
the status of the property.
Ms. DeRose stated that. if the status of
the property is put in the deed. it is
Page 5
•
deemed as appropriate notice to the owner
as a matter of law.
Mr. Oxian called for a motion to encumber
money to put a flag on the deeds of every
property of local landmark or local
district status.
Mrs. Petrass so moved; Mrs. Choitz
seconded. Motion approved.
Regarding the C. of A. procedures, Mr.
r
Oxian sua ested that, at the
recommendation of Ms. D>Rose. that the
Commission postpone any motion on the
procedures until the December meeting t.
allow the Common Council adequate time to
review the proposed procedures.
c.
Tree on Lincoln Way East
Mr. Oxian reported that n tree in the
Edgewater Historic District, in front of
an establishment callod "Phil's Place" is
dead. He s"wested that the owner be
contacted to remove the tree and plant
something else or to do something; with
the dead tree. He believes the address
is 725 or 723 Lincoln Way East.
Mrs. Sporleder asked what would be the
grounds for the staff contacting the
owner; what should the staff say to the
owner.. Mr. Oxian stated that the HPC can
ask the owner to remove the tree. They
can not be forced to because the
maintenance clause is not yet in the
ordinance.
Mrs. Choitz reminded the Commission that
it is not dealing with hazards or other
matters pertaining to public safety. The
appearances would be the Rrounds upon
whish the HPC's recommendation would be
based.
Mrs. Dixon Stated that the owner could be
informed that he is welcome to remove the
tree if he so desires. as lona as he
contacts the Commission for the
•appropriate
hermit.
Tn an aside. Mr. Herendeen asked how the
sewer pro ,ect in Edgewater Place had
t"rned out. Mrs. Dixon stated that it
had been completed, but that she had not
Page 6
0
noticed the details of curbint*. etc. the
last time she was in .the neighborhood
2. Budget & Finance
a. Request to purchase office equipment
Mrs. Dixon reported that she had taken it
upon herself to order some supplies for
the cominb vear. some of which had
alreadv been received i.n the office. She
nrovlded a list for tete perus=l of the
Commission.
Mrs . 'Di von then renlle-ted tPP rf:V ��. on
larver office equinment, to he f„nded
from the 1990 btadc-et . She Provided a
list. with estimated Prices_ to the
Commission members. She reported that
the County PurchasinF7 agent would be able
to procure the listed items at a greatly
reduced price from those on Mrs. Dixons
list. The items include: a vc-rtable
drafting table. a small supply cabinet
for survey/photographic supplies, a file
cabinet. a computer station (with lock).
two small single -pedestal. desks, a new
desk.for the director (who is currently
using the secretary's desk --not
convenient once a new secretary is
hired) . and four chairs.
Mrs.; Choi.tz remarked th.=it the chairs
should be comfortable. Mr. Herendeen
added that. while the Commission has the
money. it .Mould spend the extra few
dollars to p.rnv.ide romfort..ahle chair, for
it:s staff.
Mr. Her.endeen moved to apprnve rhe
expenditure of monies for the office
equipment listed: Mrs. Sporloder
seconded. Motinn approved,
Mrs. Choitz asked what the total amoi.tnt
would he. Mrs. Dixon stated that tier
estimates came to $1.731.0o,
3, Legal
a. Maintenance Ordinance
Mr. Ox.ian reported that the maintenance
ordinance should be coming before the
Council within the next couple of weeks.
(See Section D. Part: I.h. - C. of A.
Procedures)
4. Historic Dist.•.ict
5. Historic Landmarks
a. Landmarks Pending
•
Mr. Oxian reported that the two most recent
structural landmarks should also be coming,
before the^r" i3neil soon. The landmar.l
regarding trees on Lincoln Wav west was
tabled at the lastc"60"tneil meeting until the
HPC is notified of the opinion of the State
Department of Transportation. He further
stated that all of the trees were on public
right-of-way. so the commission would not
have to get owner consent.
In an aside. Mr. Oxian stated that several
recent court cases have declared that owner
consent cannot be an important priority in
the declaration of landmarks. The Commission
must follow its guidelines, which do not
include owner consent as a factor to be
considered.
h. Public Relations & Community Education
Mrs. Sporleder stated that she had spoken
before the Forever Learning Institute. She
concluded that it went well.
7. Personnel
a. Research Assistant
Mrs. Dixon reported that she. Mr. Oxian,
and Mr. Pastor interviewed a candidate
for the position of Research Assistant.
The candidate. Mr. Fred Hnlvcross. seemed
quite qualified. with a bachelor's in
history and a master's in American
studies. Mr. Holveross's contract with
Historic Landmarks Foundation of Indiana
expires on November 31. 1990.
Mrs. Dixon stated that she had suggested
to Mr. Holvcross that the Personnel
Committee may require a second interview.
but that such an interview was at the
discretion of the Commission.
Mrs. Sporleder asked if the position was
part-time or full-time. Mrs. Dixon
replied that the position is full-time
(approximately 30 hours per week).
Mr. Oxian stated that Mr. Holvcross had
agreed to develop a set of guidelines for
the research process, so -that anv fl.iture
researchers working for the Commission
would have a set of procedures from which
to work. He has also worked with the
state form and survev manual.
Mr. Oxian stated that. if the Commission
went with the recommendation of himself
Page 7
and the administrative staff. Mr.
Holveross could begin work with the
Commission more quickly.
Mr-. Oxian called for a motion permittinE�
the Commission to contract with Fred
Ho�lveross. Pending favorable
recommendations from references. for the
position of Research Assistant.
Mrs. Sporleder so moved: Mr. Herendeen
seconded.
Mrs. Sporleder asked how the pos.iti.on had
been advertised. Mrs. Dixon stated that
the position had been advertised through
the County Personnel office. as well as
through the local newspapers.
Motion approved.
8. Staff Reports
a. Main Street Conference
Mrs. Dixon reported that she had attended
the Indiana Main Street. Conference and
found the information very useful.
Mrs. Sporleder asked if the Conference
had provided information on how to
implement design on main street. Mrs.
Dixon stated that the conference provided
some such information. particularly in
regards to public improvements.
b. Mishawaka Commission
Mr. Herendeen asked if the HPC would not
be able to provide information to the
Mishawaka Commission. if it is
established. Mrs. Dixon stated that the
staff would be happy to provide anv
information which Mishawaka would
request. Mr. Herendeen also suggested
that the staff find out who the contact
person is. should the Commi,:sion be
established.
e. DHPA Meeting;
Mrs. Dixon clarified the abbreviation
DHPA as meaning Division of Historic
Preservation and Archaeology, or the
State Office. She stated that she
regretted not coming before the
Commission to request permission to
attend. but that she did not have more
than ten -days notice that the meeting was
to take place. She stated that she had
spoken to Mr. Oxian about it. It is
Page 8
0
� J
•
required that someone in the office be a
qualified professional. Since she is
currently the only one who meets the
remainder of the standards set for such
status by the state and federal
governments. she and Mr. Oxian fele it
necessary for her to attend.
Mrs. Sporl.eder asked Mrs. Dixon to
explain the Qualified Professional status
and requirements. Mrs. Dixon explained
that a Qualified Professional must meet
the 36 C.F.R. 61 federal requirements for
a master's degree in history,
architecture, architectural history.
archaeology. or historic preservation and
two years experience. The state further
requires that a giialif..ied professional
attend a workshop specifically designed
for qualified professionals once every
eighteen months.
V. Old Business
a) Magnetic Signs
Mr. Pastor reported that the Commission had
received the magnetic sins ordered and provided
them for the Commission's inspection. Mrs. Dixon
stated that some kind of carrying case may be
necessary to carry the signs to and from the office
so that they are not damaged.
V1. New Business
a). 1991 Goals and Obectivps
Mrs. Dixon requested that the Commission members
determine what they would like to see accomplished
in 1991. Mrs. Dixon will then take these ideas and
devise a work plan for the Commission.
She also reported that she had submitted two grant
proposals for 1991-92. One will continue the
survey of the city. The other will fund the
development of guidelines and standards for the
identification and protection of historic landscape
features, as well as for the computerization of
records.
Mr. Oxian asked about the amounts of the two
grants. Mrs. Dixon stated that she had originally
intended to ask for $35.000 in federal funds for
the survev grant. but that the state had placed a
$30,000 ceiling on the amount of funding per
request. The other grant requests $12.000 in
federal funds.
b. Cemeteries
Page 9
VII.
VIII.
Mr. Oxian asked Mr. O-x-� to send copies of his
report from the Cornelius O'Brien Conference to
other Commission members, as many might find that
information of interest.
On a related note, Mrs. Sporleder asked if the
matter of the cemeterz along Cleveland Road would
be coming up soon. She expressed fear that the
trees and enclosing wall would be destroyed by the
road widening project.
Mrs. Choitz stated that the township trustee had
informed her that the road widening nould not
disturb the cemetery. Mrs. Dixon stated that it is
a felony to dig up braves. Mrs. Choitz felt_ that.
such things are not so important to those planninp.
the project.
Mrs. Sporleder requested that the staff take a look
at the plans for the Project to see how it will
affect the cemetery.
Mrs. Sporleder and Mrs. Choitz discussed the fact
that some of the trees in the cemetery had already
been removed. Mrs. Sporleder reported that the
township trustee had given permission to trim the
tree, but the "trimming" resulted in its removal.
The tree had been hanging over the right-of-way.
rather than being within the cemetery itself., so
the trustee had given permission for its trimming.
Mrs. Sporleder stated that the same thing is
happening along Juniper and Douglas Roads, along
Notre Dame property. She did not feel that there
was any hope of influencing anyone on that project,
whereas some influence may be possible on the
Cleveland Road project.
Mr. Oxian stated that the only wav the Commission
can have a direct sav in the effects on the
cemeteries is to make them landmarks.
Hearing of Visitors
No Report
Announcements and Miscellaneous Matters
No Report
Page 10
0
LA
IX. Adjournment
Mr. Herendeen moved to adjourn. The meeting adjourned is
at 8.52.
CLU C -LC; �( �
�Xr~NI?J7IP ..
�NCi.�M,( 4: Ui.IeKFE'NDF[7 .:Cllt4tiG.4M8�G&D..
.c,>u PPS-iEJ .:PES`-�;i�NEL_. TF'�/>�; Gi, .. ✓C.I�EJ
..
_ 3 _.
i
r
r
113201.:
J. z�q
r { :
7349
:
r :
p
_..
3s� 2 i 25
3 14z9 0�
i
I
3cs5
I
,
I
� I
0
•
CJ
Preliminary Schedule of Meetings
for the
Historic Preservation Commission
1991
7h
FC)C-_> I4cl.-U51 of 1
OtJ laC---t=�O�
Jan.
21
Jan.
11
Feb.
18 (Presidents' Day)
Feb.
8
Mar.
18
Mar.
8
Apr.
15
Apr.
5
May
20
May
10
Jun.
17
Jun.
7
Jul.
15
Jul.
5
Aug.
19
Aug.
9
Sep.
16
Sep.
6
Oct.
21
Oct.
11
Nov.
18
Nov.
8
Dec.
16
Dec.
6
7h
EQUIPMENT NEEDED BY H.P.C.
•
Approximate
Item
List Price
Sale Price
Drafting Board (Q6-38GC-124)
$
63.20
$
44.24
(18x24 parallel rule)
Storage Cabinet (TE -1442 -BK)
$
150.00
$
105.00
File Cabinet
252.00
$
176.40
4 -drawer (MY -01517-..-)
Computer Cart (SF -CPT -AO)
$
369.00
$
258.30
Single Pedestal Desk (1!'!
$
310.00
$
217.00
(MF -01110)
Administrative Desk
$
499.00
$
349.30
Desk Chair (HN-5815-NN10)
$
128.00
$
86.60
Arms (HN -5892)
$
26.00
$
18.20
i
•
CORRESPONDENCE
a. Information from the National Center for Preservation Law
b. PANA Newsletter, Aug./Sept. 1990
C. Information from St. Joseph Valley Masonry Contractors
d. Mortar Board from St. Joseph Valley Masonry Contractors
e. Brochure on Federal Projects and H.P. Law workshops.
f. Invitation to Southhold Recognition Day
g. Invitation to MOVE breakfast meetings.
h. Information from the Office of Maritime Preservation
i. Common Ground
j. Indiana Preservationist, November/December 1990
k. Fall Newsletter, NIHS
1. St. Joseph Valley Record, Fall, 1990
M. Notice of an audiovisual program available from NTHP
regarding Tourism and Historic Preservation
n. Invitation to renew membership to HLFI
o. MACAIF Newsletters for Oct. 8, 15, 22. 29, Nov. 5
•
•
7q
DHPA NATIONAL REGISTER WORKSHOP
November 7, 1990
The DHPA workshop consisted of two halves. The morning was spent
discussing the results of the NPS audit of the state office and
how private contractors and contracting organizations should
write contracts which will use grant funds, The afternoon
session reviewed the National. Register- forms and what type of
information should be entered into the various catagories.
The information was of great value and will assist the commission
in its future contracting needs and National Register
nominations.
LJ
C7
•
The Division's Fall Workshop
will include a number of diverse
topics, ranging from updates from
the National Register section
to current guidance to federal
subgrantees from the National
Park Service.
Our morning session will begin
with an introduction by the new
director of the DHPA, Dr. James
Glass. For many professionals,
this will be your first
opportunity to meet Dr. Glass
and hear his views on the role
of the division.
The National Register section
of the Division will present
an update on the findings of the
Round III National Park Service
Program Audit conducted in April
of 1990 and how the audit will
affect the Division's National
Register policy. Current issues
with nominations will also be
discussed.
Many preservation consultants
serve as contractors on projects
being funded with DHPA grants.
In such cases, bidding and
contracting methods must meet
state and federal standards.
The Grants section will provide
information on these rules and
suggestions on formulating
proposals and writing contracts.
The afternoon session will be a
special orientation session for
registrants who have not previously
attended a DHPA National Register
workshop. It will acquaint them
with the DHPA National Register
Policy as well as instruct them
on general National Register polices
and procedures.
Professionals who wish to be
included or maintain their standing
on the DHPA list of Qualified
Professionals are reminded that
they must attend a DHPA National
Register Workshop at least once
very 18 months.
If you plan to attend this workshop,
please fill out the attached form
and return it to the DHPA no later
than October 31, 1990.
There is no registration fee.
However, a donation of $5 for the
morning session or $10 for the
morning and afternoon sessions is
requested to cover workshop
expenses.
d
� o
A�
IA
a
. ; 00
w ►.LS
ani
41
i -w U
°
;
a0
i