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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober 1985historicpreservation commission • of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 1219 284-97981 M I N U T E S Special Meeting MACOG Conference Room October 3, 1985 County/City Building 1. Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. 2. Roll Call MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. John Oxian, Mrs. Martha Choitz, Mrs. Janeanne Petrass, Mr. Odell Newburn, Mrs. Joann Sporleder, Ms. Karen Kiemnec, and Ms. Elizabeth Straw. MEMBERS ABSENT: Mr. Michael Beatty, Mrs. Gina DeLaruelle, Mr. Charlie Hayes, and Mr. F. Jay Nimtz. • ALSO PRESENT: Mr. Carlos Medley, South Bend Tribune Reporter; Mr. & Mrs. Marty Kleva, 16479 Brick Road; Mr. Richard Bennett, 1017 Riverside Drive; Mr. J. Edward Talley, 1075 Riverside Drive. 3. Riverside Drive Liaison Committee Ms. Kiemnec read a letter from Mr. J. Edward Talley (see Appendix A) requesting a change in rules to allow a renter to serve on the Liaison Committee. The Commission discussed the matter and referred it to the Legal Committee. Mrs. Sporleder recommended that the neighborhood could go.ahead with their vote for the Liaison Committee if they wished to. 4. Environmental Impact Statement a. 16479 Brick Road The Commission reviewed Mr. & Mrs. Marty Kleva's plans to develop the property north of their landmark home at 16479 Brick Road. Mr. Newburn made a motion to approve the plans for the new construction as presented provided that neither the new house or the driveway for it come within eight feet of the proposed property line for Lot 2. Considering that the legal description of the property will be changed to exclude Lot 1, 3 & 4, the Commission did not require specifications on the construction of the house. Mr. Oxian seconded, motion passed. • Special Meeting - Minutes October 3, 1985 Page 2 5. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters Ms. Kiemnec distributed the new Historic District brochures. Mr. Oxian made a motion to adjourn; Mr. Newburn seconded. The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m. APPENDIX-- 10-85 September 26, _1985 J. Edward Talley 1075 Riverside Drive South Bend, IN. 46616 Mrs. Joann Sporleder Historic Preservation Commission Of South Bend and St. Joseph County .1123 City -County Building South Bend, IN. 46503 Dear Chairwoman Sporleder= ..This letter shall place into writing, a request for change, regarding the qualifications for membership, on'a Historic District Liaison Coxtmittee. The specific area for which I am requesting a change concerns a member being a property owner. i Due to the fact that the present election proceedures require a person to be ,a property owner, I am'excluded from taking an active role in this local historic district. Even though I have been nominated for the Liaison Committee, I have been informed that because i am not an owner, I am ineligible to run. Because I am not familier with the reasons for the restriction concerning ownership, and in the event those reasons suggest a possible lank of interest on the part of a 'renter', I submit a list of projects initiated and/or currently in progress due to the interest and energy of this 'renter'; i 1 Based upon cx►nversations with south .Bend'Park officials, MAOOG and South Bend Hoard of Public Works, a meeting was convened with Riverside Drive. residents which resulted in our two ,petitions concerning the fishing and park maintenance. This meeting was attended by Historic Commission members Mrs. Choitz, and Mr. Oxiam; Rebecca Carey of MAMG; Liz from the office of Historic Preservation, and members of the Riverside Drive Steering Committee. 2. Meeting with supervisors of the street lightingdepartment of Indiana and Michigan which resulted in the correction of all outages of street lamps on 'Riverside Drive. 3. Currently establishing a meeting with I &`M and Public Works, to address the 'swapping' of street lamps from non -historic areas, to specific historic areas, so as to make all lighting conform within said historic districts. This meeting is slated to include John Oxian, Mrs. Choitz, Karen Kiemnec, Brian Crumlish and residents of this and other local historic districts. The same meeting will also address the establishment of a 'stockpile' of older fixtures and parts so that replacements can be assured in future years., 4. Reporting our first violation of the guidelines. on Golden Avenue.,,, 5e initiating the re -erection of stop signs, etc., along Riverside Drive. 6. Conducting a general clean-up of the historic district in, co-operation with South Bend Code Enforcement, Salvation Army and residents. 7. Monitoring the affects of these and other factors on the residents of the district', and acting as information person with the , Near Northwest Neighborhood Association, as a member of their board, for progress and activity reports from the new historic district. it is obviously my desire to be eligible for the Liaison Ccmnittee, so I respectfully submit this request to you. Thanking you in advance for your attention in this mutter. Respectfully, Edward Talley preservation commission ,historic of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 (219 284.9798) KI n T 1 f F The Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend & St. Joseph County will hold a special meeting on Thursday, October 3, 1985 at 7:30 p.m. to discuss work on the landmark site at 16479 Brick Road. The meeting will take place i -n the MACOG Conference Room on the 11th floor of the County/City Building. L� • historicpreservation commission • of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 (219 284-9798) N O T I C E The Historic Preservation Commission of South Bend and St. Joseph County will hold a special meeting on Thursday, October 3, 1985 at 7:30 p.m. to discuss work on the landmark site at 16479 Brick Road and the Riverside Drive Historic District. The meeting will take place in the MACOG Conference Room on the 11th floor of the County/City Building. historicpreservation commission. • of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 1219 284-97981 M E M O R A N D U M FROM: Karen L. Kiemnec, Director DATE: Historic Districts Brochure SUBJECT: October 4, 1985 Enclosed please find copies of a brochure just published by the Historic Preservation on South Bend's Residential Historic Districts. If you would like extra copies • to distribute, please contact our office. C preservation commission ,historic of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 (219 284.9798) M I N U T E S Regular Meeting Third Floor Conference Room October 21, 1985 County/City Building 1. Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 7:32 p.m. 2. Roll Call MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. John Oxian, Mrs. Martha Choitz, Mrs. Janeanne Petrass, Mr. F. Jay Nimtz, Mr. Charlie Hayes, Mrs. Joann Sporleder, Ms. Karen Kiemnec, and Ms. Elizabeth Straw. MEMBERS ABSENT: Mrs. Gina DeLaruelle, and Mr. Odell Newburn, Mr. Michael Beatty ' ALSO PRESENT: Ms. Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune Reporter; Mrs. Margaret Wickizer, owner of 60717 Locust Road; Mr. Thomas Lykowski, contractor; Mr. Jerry Hubner, owner of 1216 Lincolnway East; and Mrs. Eugenia Schwartz, Assistant City Attorney. 3. Approval of Minutes Mr. Oxian made a motion to approve the September 16 minutes as mailed; Mr. Hayes seconded; motion passed. Mrs. Choitz made a motion to approve the minutes of the Special Meeting on October 3; Mr. Hayes seconded; motion passed. 4. Treasurer's Report Mrs. Petrass made a motion to approve the treasurer's report as sent; Mr. Oxian seconded; motion passed. 5. Correspondence a. Preservation News, October, 1985. b. Mailings from the National Trust on an Easement -Holding Organizations Meeting at the National Trust Annual Meeting. c. Card and Gift Catalog from the Library of Congress. d. Internship Notice from the Indiana Department of Natural Resources, Division of Historic Preservation. • e. New brochures from HLFI: Locating Hoosier Landmarks, The Indiana Historic Sites & Structures Inventory, and The National Register of Historic Places in Indiana, Summary of criteria and procedures. f. Mailing from HLFI on their tour "Chicago Architecture and More." g. Newsletter from COPAR, No. 20, October 1985. h. South Bend's Urban Enterprise Zone Newsletter, Volume No. 2, Fall, 1985, contains an article on the Commission's Industrial Building Project. i. Southhold Newsletter, Volume 15, No. 4, October, 1985. j. The Old -House Journal, October 1985, Vol. 13, No. 8. 6. Committee Reports Mrs. Choitz made a motion to rearrange the order of the agenda in order to accommodate visitors; Mr. Hayes seconded; motion passed. a. Budget & Finance Ms. Kiemnec reported that the Division of Community Development has recommended funding in the amount of $7,000 for 1986 for the HPC. The Commission's request was for $9,600. b. Historic Districts 1) Riverside Drive a. Review of Ratings V'� The Commission discussed the reevaluation of ratings in a, Riverside Drive. Mr. Nimtz made a motion to send the list of ratings to the Liaison Committee for comment and to complete the standards booklet without the list of ratings; Mr. Hayes seconded; motion passed. The matter of whether or not to notify owners in districts of rating changes was sent to the Historic District Committee. b. Liaison Committee Mrs. Choitz announced the results of the Liaison Committee Election in the Riverside Drive Historic District. The residents who received the highest number of votes were Mr. Richard Bennett, Ms. Violet Rohrer, and Mr. Brian Crumlish. 2 E Ms. Kiemnec read the Memo from Mrs. Schwartz regarding her interpretation of the Riverside District Standards (see Appendix A). c. Riverside Standards Books The Commission discussed the cost of the Riverside Standards books. Mrs. Schwartz advised the Commission that the charge must reflect the cost of producing the publication and no more. Mr. Nimtz made a motion to ,Fwfigure the cost of printing the Standards book and round it off to the nearest quarter to determine the price; Mr. Oxian seconded; motion passed; Mr. Hayes voted nay. 2) Edgewater Place a. Review of Standards The Commission asked Ms. Kiemnec and the members of the Commission from Edgewater Place to review the standards and make a recommendation to the Historic District 0 Committee. c. Historic Landmarks 1) Darden Bridge Ms. Kiemnec reported that a grant to partially fund an engineering study for the Darden Bridge was applied for. It was the Preservation Services Fund of the National Trust for Historic Preservation and a response should be received within the week. 2) 504-508 East LaSalle - Second Reading Ms. Kiemnec reported that the owner of J.C. Lauber was contacted to see if he would agree to including the corner building (502 E. LaSalle) in the landmark designation. He consented. Mr. Oxian made a motion that the Commission recommend 502, 504-508 East LaSalle to the Common Council for landmark status; Mrs. Choitz seconded; motion passed. 3) 16479 Brick Road - Report and First Reading Ms. Straw gave a report on 16479 Brick Road indicating that the owners would like to have the legal description changed to include only the property immediately surrounding the landmark 0 house and outbuildings (approximately one and a half acres, see Appendix B). Mr. Oxian made a motion to accept the report and to hold first reading on the amendment to the ordinance; Mrs. Choitz seconded; motion passed. 4) (52060) Quince Road - Report Ms. Straw gave a report on (52060) Quince Road (see Appendix C). Mr. Oxian made a motion to refer possible landmark designation to the Landmark Committee; Mrs. Choitz seconded; motion passed; Mr. Hayes voted nay. d. Legal Mr. Nimtz read the minutes from the October 14 Legal Committee (see Appendix D). Ms. Kiemnec reported on the Certified Local Government Program. She asked permission to pursue funding which is available for CLG Program and to have the final draft of the grant, which is due November 15, reviewed by the Executive Committee. Mr. Nimtz so moved; Mr. Hayes seconded; motion passed. e. Public Relations & Community Education • Ms. Kiemnec distributed copies of the Historic District Brochure. She also requested permission to pursue funding for a downtown brochure which will include buildings in the Multiple Resource Area and public art and sculpture. Mr. Nimtz so moved; Mr. Hayes seconded; motion passed. • f. Environmental Impact Statement 1) 815 Arch Ms. Kiemnec reported that a Certificate of Appropriateness had been issued for 815 Arch for two new casement windows in the second floor dormer. 2) 60717 Locust The owner of 60717 Locust Road, Mrs. Margaret Wickizer, requested permission to have the two piers at the end of the driveway of her landmark house rebuilt. Mr. Oxian made a motion that the Commission recommend the rebuilding of both piers. They required that the mortar be matched to that of the house; the mortar be a soft mortar according to a formula indicated by the Commission; the piers be cleaned with a mild solution with no acid content; that no sealer be used; and that the joints be well sealed but not raked. Mrs. Petrass 4 �J seconded; motion passed. 3) 1346 Lincolnway East Mrs. Sporleder explained the items applied for in a Certificate of Appropriateness by Mr. John Bourthoumieu, the owner of 1346 L.W.E. They include: paving the rear parking lot with asphalt, constructing a pent roof on the rear facade, and erecting a 4' x 5' sign in the front yard. She recommended that these items be approved. She also recommended that the steps which were constructed without a Certificate of Appropriateness be allowed to stand with the following conditions: the tops of the handrails would be changed to meet the porch handrails, the lattice work on either side and under the steps be framed, and the steps be painted a dark blue. Mr. Hayes so moved; Mr. Nimtz seconded; motion passed. 4) 1216 Lincolnway East Mr. Hubner, the owner of 1216 Lincolnway East, asked permission to erect turned balusters on the front porch • instead of square balusters as suggested by the State Historic Preservation Office. He also asked that the Commission draft a letter to the state office indicating its support of the turned balusters. Mr. Oxian so moved; Mrs. Choitz seconded; motion passed. • 5) 605 Edgewater Drive Ms. Kiemnec received an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness to install an anodized aluminum storm door on the front of 605 Edgewater which had previously had a silver aluminum door. Mr. Oxian made a motion to approve the door; Mrs. Choitz seconded; motion passed. Mrs. Choitz made a motion to return to the original order of the agenda; Mr. Nimtz seconded; motion passed. g. Staff Report 1) Small Town Survey Ms. Kiemnec reported that the County Summary Report should be returned from the printer by next week. She further reported that the printing of the book came to $17.18 per copy. The Commission made the decision to charge $18.00 per book. 5 11 2) Survey Update Ms. Straw presented a proposal for the next areas to be updated for the survey. They include Harter Heights, the Northeast neighborhood, and the Near East. The Commission agreed with her proposal. 3) Computer Workshop Ms. Kiemnec asked permission for Ms. Straw to attend a November 9 & 10 Apple Computer workshop in Chicago. Costs will be minimal, only gas and food, not to exceed $30. The Commission agreed. 7. Old Business Mr. Oxian requested that the staff inspect 736 Bronson in the Edgewater Historic District for work without a Certificate of Appropriateness. 8. New Business Mrs. Choitz expressed her concern for continued absenteeism of some Commission members. Mrs. Sporleder indicated that she would contact those members who had missed frequently. Ms. Kiemnec reported that she had gotten a report that work had been done without a Certificate of Appropriateness at 1232 L.W.E. She reported the matter to the Building Department who informed her that deteriorated portions of the steps were replaced to match the original. She indicated that a Certificate of Appropriateness was not needed for such work. 9. Hearing of Visitors No report. 10. Announcements & Miscellaneous Matters Ms. Kiemnec reported that a new book has been received entitled, Facade Stories, Changing Faces of Main Street Storefronts and How to Care for Them. Mr. Nimtz made a motion to adjourn; the meeting was adjourned at 9:35. 6 1� FROM: APPENDIX "A" 10-85 CITY ATTORNEYS OFFICE INTER -OFFICE MEMO KAREN KIEMNEC EUGE NIA S. SCHWARTZ C DATE: OCT. 21, 1985 SUBJECT: INTERPRETATION OF RIVERSIDE DISTRICT STANDARDS This is to confirm our conversation October 14, 1985, concerning the legal interpretation of the current Riverside Historic District standards pertaining to voting and serving on the neighborhood liaison committee for that district. The standards require both voters and liaison committee members to be homeowners. There is a provision for a land contract buyer to be a voter, provided that the homeowner gives a written proxy to that land contract buyer. There is no mention in the standards of renters, either as voters or as members of the liaison committee. Due to the above silence in the official documents of the district, it is the opinion of Kevin Butler and myself that renters may not vote and may not serve on the liaison committee under the current standards for that district. There is no ability under the current standards for a property owner to give his proxy to a renter in order to enable him to vote, nor is there any provision for a power of attorney to be given to a renter to enable him to vote. Changes in procedures and standards currently in place, which have previously been adopted by the Historic Preservation Commission, may be changed by the Commission by following the same procedures used by the Commission to adopt those procedures or standards originally. A requirement in the standards that they be reviewed by the Commission "at least every five years" does not prevent the Commission from reviewing, and, if they wish, changing those procedures before five years. The Commission can make that review and make any changes at any time, as long as that action occurs within the five year period. The question was asked whether a power of attorney could be required instead of a proxy from the property owner to enable his renter to take part in an historic district election, whether as voter or as candidate. That decision would be up to the Commission, and would not require any authorization by any other • body, such as a bank. e 0 Karen Kiemnec Oct. 21, 1985 Page 2 In summary, there is now no provision which would allow a renter to participate in the Riverside Historic District as voter or committee member. Any change enabling a renter to participate would require the Commission to amend its standards in the same way it originally adopted them, and the decision.is a policy decision for the Commission to make. If you or any Commission member has further questions about this matter, please don't hesitate to contact me or Kevin Butler. ESS/clt/37 cc: Kevin Butler - APPENDIX n8x 10-85 historic f south 16479 Brick Road ° = preservation commission bend and st� °oseph county Marty Q Sue K\eva' owners of 16479 Brick Road have requested that the legal des- cription of the Landmark property be amended to include only a 1.5 acre tract immediately surrounding the residence. The 1.5 acre tract includes the house and all outbuildings and follows fence lines on the property' The tracts of land that the owners are requesting be deleted from the Landmarks designation contain no structures and are heavily covered with small trees and underbrush. The Landmark Committee recommends that the legal description for 16479 Brick Road be amended to include only the 1.5 acre tract surrounding the house (as per attached plans). Submitted by: John H. 0xian' Chairman Gina DeLaruelle Janeanne Patrass o � N � •7 t _ i 20 N 94'CS D '00 "� X 46.O' - In t N, .2.3E -s 90 "a 'oo"W, .546.01 O j1� tis 4 ��„rnpororr�. (n i i'1'j7rtur!4'rf .ri'�1'�et7fro ' `� i t V 40 • • APPENDIX "C" historic preservation commission 10-85 of south bend and st. joseph county Site Inspection Report Date October 16, 1985 Planner K. Kiemnec & E. Straw Participants Description Address (52101) Quince Road A brick Italianate farmhouse located on Quince Road adjacent to the Toll Road. Only the east and south facades are visible from Quince Road (north facade is obscured by trees). Remarks This house is continuing to deteriorate. The roofs are in very poor condition and several of the windows are broken. The roof over the main portion of the house has a large hole on the south side that has been covered by corrugated sheet metal. A chimney near this section has completely fallen down. The roof over the one story porch on the east facade is beginning to collapse. Although the roofs are in bad condition, the cornice and brackets, which appear to be of pressed tin, are in good condition. Many of the windows have closed wooden shutters which are in a variety of stages of deterioration. There are several broken windows and some appear to be boarded up on the interior. The entrance on the east side has been barricaded by corrugated sheet metal. Although the roofs are in very bad condition, the house does appear to be sound. The brick walls appear to be in very good condition with only a few areas requiring tuck -pointing. APPENDIX "D" *historicpreservation commission of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 (219 284-9798) LEGAL COMMITTEE MEETING Present: Joann Sporleder, John Oxian, F. Jay Nimtz, Chairperson Eugenia Schwartz, Kevin Butler, Karen L. Kiemnec, and Elizabeth Straw October 14, 1985 12:00 noon - LaSalle Hotel 1. Liaison Committee,Membership The attorneys indicated that as it now stands, a liaison committee member must be a homeowner. To change that, each set of standards would need to be changed according to its own procedures. In Riverside, a review must be done "at least every five years" so that any time between now and five years, a review can be held. The results must then be voted on by the neighborhood. The attorneys pointed out that unless the current Preservation Plan were changed, a renter could then serve on the liaison committee but not vote with the neighborhood. 0 2. Advertisement of Meetings Ms. Schwartz recommended that notification of committee meetings be posted and sent h..' to the media. A form letter with the appropriate information could be devised and sent. ,". Small Town Jurisdiction �V'kr. Butler suggested that a list of options for small towns wanting a historic land- mark ordinance be drawn up. Services contracted for or offered by the Historic �\ Preservation Commission would be included. Mr. Butler will meet with Ms. Kiemnec to devise the list to be presented to the small towns. 4. 16479 Brick Road In order to change the legal description on the landmark at 16479 Brick Road, Mr. Butler suggested that the Commission needs to go through the regular ordinance process, i.e., a report from the staff, 1st and 2nd reading, and a recommendation to the council. 5• 52060 Quince Road To bring 52060 Quince Road before the County Council for landmark status again, Mr. Butler suggested we go through our entire landmark procedure again (for poorly maintained and endangered buildings). He also recommended checking with the county attorney, Mr. Terry Crone, on the status of the receivership program for the county and to check the County Council minutes for the meeting at which landmark status was denied. • Legal Committee Meeting Page 2 October 14, 1985 7. Certified Local Governments Ms. Kiemnec explained that there is money available in grants to help local governments become certified. The funding must be allocated by 12/31/85. She suggested that the Commission request a proposal from Mr. Butler to research the issue of becoming a CLG & give us a recommendation. The committee agreed. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION BUDGET $3,500 Treasurer's Report as of October 2, 1985 LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR 1985 CURRENT BILLS 212 Postage 213 Travel 214 Mileage Allowance. 215 Books 220 Conference Expenses 241 Printing 242 Landmark & District Administration Cost (+$12.00 Quietus (1143) 243 Photography 244 Stationery & Printing 252 Equipment 26.1 Legal Services 263 Technical Assistance 265 Publication of Legal Notices 360 Office Supplies 570 Dues 571 Subscriptions $ 150.00 200.00 200.00 100.00 200.00 50.00 31'2.00 250.00 25.00 75.00 900.00 560.00 50.00 400.00 50.00 TOTAL $ 3,734.63 SMALL TOWN SURVEY $ 7,450.00 HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND $18,500.00 (Dept. of Interior, Community Development, and County Commissioner Grants) $ 13.14 10.05 -0- -0- -0- 4.66 25.27 -0- -0- -0- 14.00 -0- -0- 34.16 -0- $ 101.28 479.63 $4,043.98 YEAR TO DATE $ 122.67 166.29 200.52 82.95 180.00 36.45 304.12 175.56 -0- 67.15 293.50 401.25 57.62 368.12 30.00 39.00 $ 2,525.20 $ 5,952.82 $15,240.86 BALANCE $ 27.33 33.19 -0- 17.05 20.00 13.55 7.88 74.44 25.00 .23 606.50 321.38 -0- 31.88 20.00 11.00 $1,209.43 $1,636.98 $3,259.14 historicpreservation commission of south bend and st. joseph county ROOM 1123 COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, indiana 46601 (219 284-9798) / C'/ N 0 T I C E There will be a special meeting of the St. Joseph County Board of Commissioners and the Historic Preservation Commission staff on Tuesday, October 29, 1985 at 11:00 a.m. regarding: The Certified Local Government Program and The St. Joseph County Summary Report - A Publication on the Historic Sites and Structures for the County.