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December 26
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5id.',Floor Conferen"cLi'Room,'
1 Call .to Order
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3 Ap#oval of 1,1inute's
4 Tre ur
as eils Report
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orrespondence
-6 C6mmittee,.Rep6rts
: e ,city-- S11r,V y
Budget d Fi n
and ance
Hi s to i a Di stricts
Historic; ric Landmari6
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Public Relations and Community -Education"-
Standards Historic
`Presidential`Report
::Ztaff Report
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7 Md Business.
8. New Business
"The Tike Hai -Coffie";
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HVisitors.
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and Miscell Matters10. Annouhcem,6 6 aneous'
11. _-AdjoU rnmen
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TOTAL BUDGET $11,425.08
Treasurer's Report December 20, 1977
1977
Budgeted
Balance
,Line Item
119.1
Historic Preservation Planner
$8,200.08
$11132.14
212
Postage
.300.00
125.25
213
Travel Expenses
600.00
-0-
215
Books
125.00
125.00
241
Printing, other than office supplies
400.00
31.76
242
Publication of Legal Notices
200.00
-0-
243
Photography and Blue Prints
200.00
-0-
244
Stationery and Printing
100.00
27.35
252
Equipment
50.00
-0-
261
Legal Services
600.00
-0-
263
Technical Assitance
400.00
-0-
371
General Office Supplies
100.00
38.17
570
Dues and Subscriptions
150.00
-0-
$112425.08
$1,479.67
;�low,�trs
December 20, 1977
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been paid and the monies remaining in the Commission's budget at
( the end of 1977 would revert back to the General Fund. Mr. Oxian
then discussed the possibility of hiring Ms. Jeanne Denham from
January until the end of April at a rate of $250.00 per month,
which would total $1,000. He suggested that W. Gaylen Allsop
draw up a contract covering her services to do historical research.
The Treasurer's report and this motion for Mrs. Denham was likewise
tentatively approved.
Ms. Candace Peck then asked Commission's approval to reimburse her
for her travel expenses to undertake the position of Historic
Preservation Planner. The mileage computed at $.13 per mile,
would total $163.50. Mr. Oxian felt there would be no problems
in having this approved but would seek further approval from
Mr. Al Stivers and Mr. Russell W. Rothermel.
Mr. Oxian said he would like to be reimbursed for the postage
he is using in mailing material to home owners. He submitted
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-a bill -for $5.00. --There were -no objections to -this matter.
5. Correspondence
There was no valid correspondence at this time, except that
Mr. Wasielewski asked the staff if any answer had been received
from the White Farm Equipment Company allowing Brian Crumlish
access to their structures. So far, none had been received.
6. Committee Reports
City Survey
Mr. Ted Wasielewski informed the Commission that a meeting
had been held at which time the completion of the survey had
been discussed, and tentative plans for 1978. He said ap-
proximately 250 structures in the superior category, rating
11, 12, and 13 will be carded by the end of December, 1977.
Mr. Oxian then discussed the $8,000 still be be allocated from
Community Development Funds for the city survey. Mr. Wasiel-
ewski mentioned that both John Oxian and Candace Peck had ap-
peared before the Common Council regarding this matter and that
the Common Council had asked and received from C.D. a written
promise that our $8,000 would not be appropriated for the new
Fire Station on Western Avenue, and that a separate appropri-
ation ordinance will be forthcoming for Common Council action
in Janury, 1978. Mr. Oxian then read a memorandum from Carl
Ellison regarding this matter. He also said he will have a
meeting with the Common Council to explain what the Commission
will be doing with these funds. Mr. Oxian read the city survey
budget and explained it to the Commission and Ms. Peck further
explained it. He then discussed possible publications and a
statement which should be revised. There was tentative appro-
val of this statement with corrections.
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Historic Districts
Mr. Ted Wasielewski informed the Commission that W. Gaylen
Allsop, the Commission's attorney, is looking into the legal
aspects of the proposed zoning change in the West Washington
District. Mr Oxian reported that Mr. Allsop was in the process
of drafting an ordinance covering this matter. The basic prob-
lem is that there are four different zoning possibilities for
an historic area. Mr. Oxian advised Mr. Allsop to discuss this :
matter with the Area Plan Commission. Mr. Wasielewski stressed
that there were 10 different zoning classifications that had to
be taken into account. There was a good deal of discussion on --
this matter. Mr. Oxian advised Mr. Allsop to peruse the legis-
lation that was passed in the City of Boston, which -had three
different categories of zoning for historic districts. Mr.
Oxian said the Commission needs more material from W. Gaylen
Allsop and this matter should "hang fire" right now.
Legal
Ms. Candace Peck reported that Charlotte Whittaker had re-
quested copies of the Commission's ordinance and other material
and wanted to set up a meeting at her house on January 12th
regarding the possibility of setting up an historic district in the
North Shore area. It was suggested that Ms. Peck work with bis.
Joann Sporleder.
Ms. Peck said that she had sent a copy of the ordinance as well
as standards to Ms Ellen Kettler, the Midwest legal counsel for
the National Trust. She also said letters should be sent to
residents living in a historic district, giving them an indica-
tion of what it means to live in a historic district. Further
letters should stress the possibility of tax deductions and re�-
habilitation as well as loans that might be applicable. It was
stated that the Tax Seminar in June did not have a tremendous
impact.
Mrs Price then stated that a letter should go out to all proper-
ty owners regarding their willingness to have their home desig-.-
nated as a historic landmark, and outlining the possible tax de-
ductions. Mr. Oxian informed her that letters of permission have
been requested from all potential historic landmark owners since
early 1975, even though our enabling ordinance does not require
it.
Mr. Ted Wasielewski then began an open discussion of historic
landmarks and historic districts and said that approval must
be gotten from 50% of the property owners for permission to
have a district declared historic. Mr. Oxian said he had dis-
cussed this matter with Mr. Allsop and he read Section E. from
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the enabling ordinance. He further stated that Resolution 3 gives
the Commission power to declare a home a landmark without the owner's
-consent: -There was discussion of special interpretations of this
matter.
Mr. Ted Wasielewski expressed some concerns he had regarding the
interpretation of the ordinance and especially in the future --
maintenance_and non -maintenance of structures that are now de-
clared as landmarks. Mr. Wasielewski expressed that the Commis-
sion should proceed with caution in designating further landmarks
and do everything possible to get owner's consent.
Public Relations and Community Education
There was no report from this committee.
Standards and Historic Plan
There was no report forthcoming.
Presidential Report
There was no report from President Oxian.
However, the Commission was informed that John Stamper had sent
the Commission a completed Certificate of Appropriateness on the
No. 7 Fire Station. It was brought to Ms. Sporleder's attention
and it was then forwarded to Mr. DeLee, City Engineer.
Staff Report
Ms. Gilbert asked approval for her to take her accrued six
vacation days, starting December 27 and ending January 4th.
Ms. Candace Peck asked permission to be absent from the office
on December 27th and Mr. Nimtz remarked that there should be no
problem with either -case.
7. Old Busines r. __ _ :_: ti, :,_-.-! _ -_. , - _ - .-
Ms. Candace Peck brought up the problem of the lights on Leeper-
Bridge. She said she had talked with Mr. William Richardson re-
garding the epoxy used on the renovation of the bridge. She said
that perhaps the Commission should wait in designating the bridge a
landmark until the style of the lights is worked out. Mr Oxian
stated that the Darden Bridge has been declared a landmark through
resolution but not by ordinance. Ms. Sporleder made a suggestion
that both the Leeper Bridge and the Darden Bridge be declared local
historic landmarks by ordinance. She said she and Ms. Peck would
try to get some old photographs, showing the exact lights that -
were on the bridge. Mr. Nimtz said there might be some old post-
cards about, and he also know of a painting that depicted the
bridge. He was advised to pursue this further.
Mr. Oxian then informed the Commission that the facade easement
project with the Gollatz house was still being worked on with Mr.
Dillon.
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8. New Business
Ms. Candace Peck announced that it might very will be a good idea for
the Commission to start a Newsletter, informing interested parties of
new tax laws, pertinent information about the Commission, "newsy" bits
of -other perservation groups. She said there was a singularly lack of
communication of all preservation groups. There was general discussion
of what this newsletter would entail. It was remarked that publication -
costs would be used from the State grant of last year. It was also sug-
gested that perhaps a grant could be set-up for this from the Indiana
Commission for the Arts. Mr. Nimtz was highly in favor of starting such
a newsletter.
Mr. Oxian reported that the Commission needs to appoint a new chairman
for the Public Relations and Community Education committee. He said he
would call some of the other members about this matter. He appointed
Joann Sporleder to this committee, as well as appointing her to the
historic districts committee.
b[s. Peck discussed the $12,000 in matching grants for the city survey.
She said that Cambridge, Massachusetts had used revolving funds for --
rehabilitation of houses for exterior work, especially in the replac-
ing of architectural details or ornaments which does not come under any
other rehabilitating work. She said such a Revolving Fund Proposal had
been sent to Community Development for this year.
Mr. Nimtz then informed the Commission that an unveiling of Judge Den-
sey's portrait - who had done significant research of houses and had
shown great leadership in preservation -would take place in the near
future. He instructed staff to get the exact date and location for the
unveiling of this portrait.
Mr. Oxian then informed the Commission and staff that notices of forth-
coming meetings must be prominantly displayed and sent to the media in
accordance with the recently passed "Sunshine Law."
9. Announcements and Miscellaneous Platters
There were no further announcements.
10. Hearing of Visitors
Mrs. Ruth Price then publically thanked the Historic Preservation Com-
mission for its continuing efforts in the preservation movement. She --
said there were some good "vibes" coming from the community. The Com-
mission, nevertheless, most make some concession. She said the Commis-
sion should set up values and solidify community support. She then
spoke of a facade easement program and the impact of the tax reform
act. She felt that "saving" is a function of this preservation group.
11. Adjournment
The December meeting stood adjourned at 9:53 P.M.
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SUBMITTED BY: Russel W. Rothermel, Secretary
DRAFT PREPARED BY: Gertrud C. Gilbert
NEXT REGULAR 24EETING
Monday, January 16, 1978
Note: Room 323, depending
on attendance, otherwise
Council Chambers on 4th Flobr
7:30 p.m.