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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 1976historic preservation comm Ission =of south bend an d st. Joseph count ., . .-...._;::_..:•,, :.-:..._:,�;. ,,• ; -, ROOM T 1123 :COUNTY CITY BUILDING south bend, Indiana 46601 (219.284-9798) ,A Y .RegularMeeting, .Tuesday; A Z : I.%,,j1916;- r 8':t?O:p.m. 63rd. Placer - Conference Room Order ?Ball Cal] - '' ;:.' _ : ; A.ppxbval of Minutes -_ k. Tres surerIs Report Corre . spon,dence _ Committee Reports ' H� 'or ,-, .. . rxc I�istrzcts >, - :::.Hi storie •: Zanc3..marks - Public Relations and Ed1iC8tioI2 v.:. Presiderntial Report '` -: - - :, staff- Re - port: Z.: Olci =: Busyness Plaques Auto TouraMa P -Tea Receptioxi -' Ms, June Haad]:ey, Public Relations Exec: - MCDona3dts 8.. New Basins -- 9:;::; Hear) `o =Nisi- f to .10:: ; Annciuneements :arid MisceJUAneoizs Matters -- 11. Add ourrurient .HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TOTAL BUDGET $11,425.00 ,Treasurer's Report May 11, 1976 1976 ,Line Item Budgeted Balance 119.1 .Admin. Sec'ty/Research Assistant $4,000.00 - 0 - 212 Postage 300.00 187.01 213 Travel Expenses 600.00 600.00 215 Books 150.00 1+2.55 241 Printing, other than office supplies 400.00 361.10 242 Publication of Legal Notices 200.00 200.00 243 Photography and Blue Prints 400.00 313.01 244 Stationery and Printing 125.00 105.15 252 Equipment 50.00 15.00 261 Legal Services 600.00 600.00 371 General Office Supplies 100.00 83.43 570 Dues and Subscriptions 150.00 116.00 263 Technical Assistance (Survey) 4,350.00 4,350.00 $11,425.00 $7,073.25 May ll.. 1976 Page 2 Ruth Price. -Ms. Price brought the Commission up-to-date on what was happening in historic preservation throughout the state. She remarked that federal funding was suspended in the State of Indiana. She said that several grants-in-aid would -- not be allowed. She mentioned that the state is afraid of im- pact statements and that the cause of historic preservation muse have state-wide support, perhaps through a state-wide lobby. Mr. Smith then thanked Ms. Price for acquainting the Commission with these facts. Mr. Rinderle next introduced, Jane Hoadley who is the Public Relations Director of McDonald's Restaurants. She spoke about the possibility of distribution of the Auto Tour Guide through the McDonald's Restaurants. She informed the Commission that it would be advertised in the store bulletins, posters and newspapers, as well as on radio spots. The maps would be distributed by request only over the counter. She said that she had not as yet talked to the Operations Manager as to the cost. Mr. Nimtz asked what would be McDonald's attitude about other com- mercial enterprises distributing these maps. Ms. Hoadley said there would be no problem. It was asked whether McDonald's would cover part of the production costs added to the cost of printing an extra 15,000 maps. Mr. Nimtz suggested that perhaps some guidance in - this area could come from the County Attorney's office. Ms. Da- visson made a motion that Al Stivers continue the responsibility of talking with the County Attorney's office as to the legality of the Commission's letting McDonald distribute the maps. He is also to negotiate with McDonald's as to the production costs, subject to approval by the Commission. Mr. Nimtz seconded this motion and it passed unanimously. Ms. Hoadley said distribution of the maps would be during the last week in June. Mr. Nimtz made a motion that the Commission will look with favor on any other commercial enterprises that desire the same type of arrangement -- as is made with McDonald's if such arrangement is made. Ms. Spor- leder seconded this motion and it passed unanimously. Mr.. Nimtz then said he had discussed with Brian Crumlish the mat- ter of the copyright on the map and Mr. Crumlish stated that it - was at the suggestion of the printer and that it was not for per- sonal gain or aggrandizement. It is up to the Commission to use this map and make whatever arrangement it wishes for its use. 4. Treasurer's Report Ms. Davisson distributed the new treasurer's report showing the balances remaining in the various line items. She then submittedfor approval for payment the following bills: Duplicating charges for April $1.60 Postage charges for April 7.86 Business Systems 6.24 Schillings 13.03 Gertrud Gilbert 10.35 Mr. Oxian made a motion that the report be accepted and the foregoing bills be approved for payment. Mr. Stivers seconded. this motion and it passed unanimously. May 11, 1976 Page 3 5. Correspondence Ms. Gilbert read a letter that she had written to a Dr. F. A. Turfler regarding his suggestion for a possible utilization of the East Mill Race along the St. Joseph River. There was - a discussion about the proper procedure for incoming and out- going correspondence. It was decided that correspondence of any importance should be taken up with the chairman of the appropriate committee. Next, a letter from Mr. Michael H. Setzer, General Manager of Transpo was read and Mr. Smith suggested that a copy be sent to Mr. Patrick McNamara. 6. Committee Reports Budget and Finance There was no report from this committee at this time. Historic Districts Mr. Ted Wasielewski infozmed the Commission that he had called a meeting on Monday to take a look at the proposed widening of Chapin Street. He mentioned that two Commission members were present, plus two staff members. It was suggested that he outline a letter, incorporating ideas on this subject from Commission members. Historic Landmarks Mr. Oxian reported -that the County Council had passed all three ordinances designating landmarks. He said that Councilwoman Velma Torzewski was very complementary and - appreciative as to what the Historic Preservation Commis- sion was doing. Mr. Oxian stated that the Amendment to the Ordinance would be on the agenda of the Area Plan Commission meeting on the 18th of.May. He also stated that he has received 6 or 7 more letters from homeowners desiring that their homes be declared landmarks. He spoke about the property'at 25618 Quinn Road in North Liberty. The owner wishes that the site be listed as an historic landmark but also vrould like the zoning changed so that she could use one of the houses as a comnercial enter- prise. She wants to sell produce there and also use it as a bakery. The owner wants to restore the original house to its original design. Mr. Rinderle added that the, -barn -on this property had the first automated feeding system in the county. Mr. Oxian made a motion that all three structures be de- clared an historic landmark with the addition that the Commission should support the owner in rezoning. Mr. Ted Wasielewski seconded this motion and it passed unanimously. May 11, 1976 Page 4 Mr. Oxian then spoke about a home which was situated next to'the'Osteopathic Hospital and; is now being -moved to a new location. The owner, Ms. Janet Che]miniak wants the home declared a.landmark. It was discussed, however, that the new location must first.be ascertained and then the building surveyed. The owneis'already received the standards' and gave their approval to have the home declared a landmark. Mr. Oxian made a motion that a letter be sent to George Po- dell and Ms. Davisson seconded it. It passed unanimously. Mr. Oxian spoke about the possibility of setting up guide- lines for the Review Board and Mr. Smith suggested that a meeting be held of the Landmarks Committee to pursue this subject. Legal Committee Mr. F. Jay Nimtz had no report except -to say that the -Amend ment would be on the agenda of the Area Plan Commission meet- ing on May 18th. A copy of this amendment was given to Mr. Parent of the Common Council and Mr. Catanzarite of the County Council. Mr. Oxian remarked that the City Attorney has written up an amendment concerning the time of demolition of a landmark from one year to five years. Mr. Richard Dombrowski of the Common Council and Mr. Tom Catanzarite of the County Council are sponsoring the amendment. Public Relations and Education Ms. Davisson itemized the following points in her discussion at this meeting: The presentation by Ms. Ruth Price regard= ing historic preservation and impact statements in the State of Indiana; the Commission's priorities in view of the City Survey, the Plan, the position of the Consultant; the pro- cedures for defining guidelines; and a discussion by Al Stivers about the -Auto Tour Mag. Ms. Davisson remarked that there were no established pro- cedures governing the Commission. She stated that these must be viewed consistently to be effective. She recommended that John Oxian and the Committee make recommendations in this area and bring these before the Commission at the next meeting. She stated that the Committee has met several times informally to establish what the priorities of the Commission actually are. The Committee recommended that the top priority is the City Survey and also the Historic Plan. Ms. Davisson then made a motion that the Commission terminate the position of Consultant at this date. Joanne Sporleder seconded this motion. All Commission members present voted "aye" with the exception of John Oxian who voiced a "nay" May 11, 1976 Page 5 vote. The motion passed. There was discussion about the possibility of advertising for an architectural historian or an architect. Mr. Oxian stated that a corresponding position be created in the next two months and definite guidelines and authority be.set forth. Mr. Al Stivers then discussed the Auto Tour Map and.submitted a bill for production costs for this map from the firm of Crumlish/S-oorleder & Associates. He read,a letter from them explaining - the various costs (see Appendix A). Mr. Al Stivers made a motion that the bill-in'the amount of $421.00 be ap- proved for payment. Mr. Oxian seconded it. Ms. Sporleder - abstained.from voting and the motion was passed. Mr. Rinder- le explained that the initial cost was $225.00 but that did not include the artwork or the narrative on the back of the map. Ms. Davisson suggested that the Commission write a letter to Crumlish/Sporleder commending the firm for the fine work they did on the map. Mr. Oxian then spoke about the Tea Reception for homeowners to be held on Sunday,, May 16 at Tippecanoe Place.. It was stated that Mr. Smith would make a welcoming speech., after - which Mr. which -Mr. Oxian would make some remarks about landmark desig- nation and hopefully get some questions from the participants. Ms. Dtvisson made a motion that expenditures be approved for the reception. Mr. Stivers seconded it and this motion passed unanimously. Presidential Report Mr. Smith commented on iie possibility of changing the meeting time back to Monday. It was suggested that staff inquire as to the most suitable time from other Commission members. Mr. Smith then informed the Commission that the County CETA program had author- ized a 5% raise for Gertrud Gilbert. He then spoke about his meet- ing in Indianapolis. He stressed that the staff should send the rest of the survey cards to Mr. Ganz and check for the grant as soon as the Commission can - get the bills together for the matching. grant of $5,000. Mr. Ted Wasielewski made a motion that the - Treasurer review the itemized bills that will be sent to Indiana- polis for the matching grant. Mr. Stivers seconded this motion and it passed unanimously. Staff Report Mr. Rinderle reported that the Commission received a number of requests for names of architects and/or contractors who do re- storative work. It was suggested that the Commission should send -- out a form to such contractors to see if theywouldlike to be in- cluded on such a list. Mr. Oxian made a motion that such a letter be referred to the Standards Committee. Ms. Sporleder seconded it and it passed unanimously. Ms. Kopezynski then spoke about the possibility of putting to- gether a packet giving homeowners ideas for restoration. She May 111 1976 Page 6 x: would include the Old House Journal reference index, the brochure, "How to Look at Your Tmrn,",a bibliography and other helps. She was advised to compile a sample packet for Commission members to peruse. Mr. Rinderle spoke about a homeowner on Fir Road who was fear- ful of a possibl encroachment of the Toll Road. He called the Highway Department and was told there were no plans in this area. Mr. Rinderle then told the Commission that since his position was being terminated, he would like to say how much he enjoyed working with the Commission and wished the Commission luck in its endeavors and hoped through this work that more people would become aware of the need for preservation. He said that Mr. - Oxian had asked for a list of endangered homes and he would sub- mit this list to him. Ms. Davisson then made a motion that the Commisbion duplicate the upgraded homes on the County Survey and make them available to libraries and colleges. Mr. Oxian seconded this motion and it passed unanimously. Mr. Smith then declared that the Commission was indebted to Mr. Rinderle for his work with the Commission. 7. Old Business Plaques Mr. Oxian made a motion that the Commission purchase twenty (20) plaques as-per.the quotation in the letter from Lakeshore Markers for landmarks declared in the County. Ms. Joanne Sporleder seconded this motion and it passed unanimously. There was a discussion as to whether the Commission were going to donate these markers to the- homeom ers. It was stated that the Commission would pro- bably give these markers to owners of landmarks. Auto Tour'. Map - Tea Reception This item was taken up previously. 8. New Business. There was no new business at this time. 9. Hearing of Visitors The remarks of Ms. Ruth Price and Ms. Jane Hoadley were recorded previously. 10. -..Announcements and Miscellaneous Matters There was an announcement that there will be a Park Avenue May 11, 1976 Page 7 Association "Tour of Homes" on June 6th. 11. Adjournment Mr. Al Stivers made a motion to adjourn. Ms. Joanne Sporleder seconded this motion and it passed unani- mously. The meeting was adjourned at 10:38 p.m. SUBMITTED BY: Russell W. Rothermel, Secretary DRAFT PREPARED BY: Gertrud C. Gilbert NEXT REGULAR MEETING Monday, June 1976 :Tu oe zI , VRI C Conference Room 323 3rd Floor - County/City Building 8:00 p.m. we t Pppex-,atkx rA crumlish/sporleder and associates architecture planning urban design 511 west Colfax south bend, Indiana 46601 219-234-8300 member firm • design International incorporated May 11, 1976 Mr. Jack Smith, President Historic Preservation Commission Room 1123 County -City Building South Bend,.`IN 46601 Dear Mr. Smith: Enclosed is our invoice for the services required to produce the map of the historic structures of St. Joseph County. The project was a pleasant one, and we enjoyed working with the commission in this attempt to produce a usable, informative, and attractive map. On the enclosed statement, you will find that we are billing the commission for some work over and above the original scope of services. While it was implied that we should perform this extra work, it was not formerly agreed upon with the commissioners. If you feel the total amount billed is beyond your budget or unfairly requested, please accept that amount as donated services. Sincerely, riaCru*mlish klw ,Enclosure nw"s 'e'eA�