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`south bend, indiana 46601 (219,284-9798)
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1. Cali -to Order:
2 =Roll Call-
:3. Approval. of Minutes _
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�+. - Treasurer s - Report
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5. Corresparidence
Committee: Reports - _
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_Budget ' and. Finance
- . Historic DistrictsJ.
_ HistoricLandmarks'.
Legal
. - Public Re1.at ions ,arid Education'
"Presidential ,Re ort
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-_ Kresge Union Station _ Resolutions
Humanities Meetings:Re rt
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Historic-Prese'rvatiori Week'
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Resolutxoxis #1 an
Nomination -and Survey Forms
Annual Report
AGENDA
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8. New Business
9. Hearing of Visitors
10. Announcements and Miscellaneous Matters
11. Adjourment
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$8028 each, totaling $2+.78 for theCommission's approval for
payment. Mr. Rothermel ma v _ _
ed that these Iexpenses -be approved.
Mr. Stivers seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
5. Correspondence
President -Smith distributed copies 'of the Indiana: Preserva-
tionist and -brought -to the attention of -the Commission the
many references to South Bend -and Mishawaka in its pages.
He felt this was excellent exposure and publicity for the
cause of historic preservation in this area.
Ms. Schlereth reported'on a telephone conversation she had
r had with Marsha Mullin. She is - a'graduate-'student in Museum
Science and is -on the College Work'Study Program at Teras -
Tech University. She had asked about-the.possibility of work-
ing for the Commission during this summer. The'Commission
would be obliged to pay only 200 of her full:salaxy or approx-
imately $250. After some discussion -of how valuable-her're�
search could be'to-the Commission, particularly to`-the�-Land-'
marks' Committee doing work similar to'what Ms. _ Ryan had been --
doing, it 'was moved by Mr. Oxian that she" be qr_e' d. - Ms: Spor-
leder seconded the motion and it was- passed`unanimously`.- It'
was suggested that a contract be drawn-iip and that her salary
could be paid from contractual services.
Ms. Schlereth reported that the Mayor's office had -forwarded
a letter from the Department of the Interior;- 'informing the `-
Commission of Community Development Block Grant and 701`Plan-
ning funds which might be used for the purpose of financing a
local survey. Ms. Schlereth stated that she discussed this -
communication with Mr. Hojnacki. He stated that he -could -not -
commit any Community Development funds until d
he offi-
cial approval of the city's proposal from Washington: -He also
directed her to see Mr. George Kruse in the-MACOG office; con-
cerning 701 funds. This, -Ms. Schlereth reports._shie did,'and
Mr. Kruse stated that it was the-city's`701 Planning funds
which the communication was referring to. Under the federal
guidelines, the city has to include provisions for -historic
preservation in the use of 701 Planning --funds, and Mr.' Kruse`
stated he would inform the mayor of thiswhenhe- returned his
review of their proposal (which'did not include -any allocation
for historic preservation). Mr. Niiitz stated that he -would
take the communication from the -Department of the'Interior-with'
him and talk with the mayor about getting some funds allocated.
Ms.-Schlereth'reported that -letters, copies of'the "position
papers," and programs had been sent to Congressman Bradenias,-
Senator-.Hartke and Senator Bayh regarding'the-forthcoming
Urban Conservation meetings-. She felt that they would -b6 --
interested in seeing how thie funded 'grant -from the Indiana- -
Committee for the Humanities is being spent in the community.
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President Smith referred to a letter, dated April 23, from
Wendy Causon Schlereth regarding her contract termination
and resignation as of June 30, 1975. Mr. Smith had many
fine things to say about the value Ms. Schlereth has been
to the work of the Commission. He referred to the favorable
interview with Dr. Lois McMahon who was interested in the
position under the same contractual basis as Ms. Schlereth.
It was agreed that she be considered for the position.
6. Committee Reports
Budget and Finance
Mr. Oxian announced that he wants to call a meeting with -
Messrs. Stivers and Catanzarite in order to draw up a bud-
get which will be submitted to the County and City and ar-
ranged to set a date following this evening's meeting.
Historic Districts
Mr. Nimtz reported that the attendance at the Firehouse
meetings was somewhat sporatic, but the response of those
in attendance had been of interest. He had no further
report.
Historic Landmarks
Mr. Oxian reported that Mr. Braden of the Oddfellows
Association wants their building declared an historic
landmark. He also wants 905 West Colfax and 1205 Foster
equally designated. The latter building should be so
considered because it was the first totally electric house
in the area. Mr. Nimtz felt there was nothing historically
significant about the Colfax property. The Committee will
investigate the Oddfellows building and make recommendations.
Legal
The Legal Committee had nothing to report.
Public Relations and Education
Ms. Schlereth reported that the public information flyers
which the Commission had printed were distributed before -
the last meeting in Chapin Park and would also be distri-
buted before the second meeting at St. Paul's Church.
Presidential Report
President Smith had nothing to report.
Consultant's Report
Ms. Schlereth reported that -the typewriter is"in need
of repair. She requested approval of such repair.
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Ms. Sporleder so moved. Mr. Nimtz seconded and the motion
was unanimously approved.
Ms. Schlereth announced that the land use and zoning maps
drawn up by Crumlish/Sporleder were received and she showed
them to the Commission.
7. Old Business
Crumlish/Sporleder
Mr. Oxian reported that Crumlish/Sporleder were favorable to
working in conjunction with Mr. Gaede from the very beginning
of the survey for the county. Mr. Oxian remarked that they
felt it was a good idea to get an outside perspective. They
will draw up a contract for the use of the $5,000 to start the
survey of the county, and a tentative contract for $25,000 for
a survey of the city. There will be another meeting on Thurs-
day at 5:00 p.m. with Crumlish/Sporleder and officers of the
Commission.
Kresge -Union Station
Mr. Oxian reported that the results of the Common Council meet-
ing was "we win one and we lose one." The National Bank sent
a lawyer to the Council meeting to protest a declaration con-
cerning the site of the former Kresge building. The matter
was tabled.
Action on the resolution to declare the Union Station an histor-
ic landmark was favorable. Terry Miller was the only dissenting
vote to a motion made by Mr. Nemeth and seconded by Mr. Parent.
Historic Preservation Week
President Smith announced that there would be an awards luncheon
at Tippicanoe Place Tuesday, May 13th, and urged Commission mem-
bers to attend. He suggested that the Commission might pick up
the cost of the luncheon for any Commission member who wished to
attend.
Mr. Smith was heartened by the fine attendance at the Junior
League's Showcase House on Navarre Street. He also said there
was a good response on advance ticket sales for the Tour of
Homes sponsored by Southhold Restorations, Inc.
Plaques
Mr. Smith said he had been in touch with the Michigan City Prison -
and they would like to see some examples of plaques which the Com-
mission might wish to use to designate landmarks. He said he is -
in favor of a plaque similar to the one on the old American Bank
Building. Mr. Oxian said Mrs. Ruth Price had several slides of
Historical Plaques. Ms. Sporleder said the Commission should
look into the ones done in Michigan for the Centennial which
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were done in porcelain. Michigan City still would like to
know exactly what the Commission has in mind before they
estimate possible costs.
Annual Report
Mr. Stivers read a list of accomplishments of the Historic —
Preservation Commission over the past year which Ms. Schler-
eth had gleaned from past minutes. Mr. Oxian added that —
Commission members had attended two conferences. Ms. Schler-
eth suggested that an 82tt x 10" sheet of paper, folded into
thirds, be used, along with sketches of the four landmarks
which the County Commissioners approved by resolution. There
was some discussion on who should receive a copy of the an-
nual report. Mr. Smith instructed Mr. Stivers to prepare a
prototype for the next meeting.
Humanities Meetings
Ms. Schlereth distributed copies of the flyers announcing
the ICH meetings for West Washington, and noted that the
only change was that Father Kennedy would not be present
for the May meeting, but would be on the program in June
instead.
Darden Road Bridge
Ms. Sporleder expressed concern over the increasing deter-
ioration of the Darden Road Bridge. She said she and Mr.
Oxian would try to talk to Mr. Larrison about the bridge.
Nominations and Survey Forms
Ms. Sporleder had nothing further to report on a possible
survey form. She asked if the Commission should suggest
a form for Crumlish/Sporieder's use during the survey or
if the Commission should adopt the form which they use.
Mr. Smith said they would discuss this with Crumlish/
Sporleder at the meeting on Thursday.
Resolutions #1 and #2
It was suggested that the resolution numbers be changed --
to #2 and #3, given the fact that the Commission has al-
ready passed one resolution. Mr. Smith noted that there
has been no action on these resolutions and suggested they
be tabled. Ms. Schlereth urged that they be given serious
consideration since they have been pending for several
months and the Commission was still operating without any
official procedure. Ms. Sporleder said that the procedure
for designating an historical landmark is cumbersome.
After some discussion, it was decided that the districts
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and- landmarks- committees would report'baek on their
respective resolution at the next meeting.
8. New Business
Consultant Replacement
After d, discussion about the gizalif ications of Lois
McMahon, Mr. Rothermel moved that'she be hired at
half salary for the last two weeks `in June-aftd at
full salary starting July 16t. `Mr.- Oxian'seconded
this motion and the motion was passed unanimously.
It was agreed that she be hired'on the same con-
tractual basis as Ms. Schlereth.
9. Hearing of Visitors
Mrs. Riedle, of the Northwest'-Pi-6perty'O�iriers Asso-
ciation, spoke about a trash pick-up'in_the Park
Avenue area. Mr. Smith suggested that Mrs; Ri6dle
invite Mr. Jena, president of the -Northwest Property
Owners Association, to attend a Commission meeting.
10. Announcements and Miscellaneous Matters
There were no announcements.
11. Adjournment
Mr. Nimtz moved that the meeting by adjourned. 'Mr.
Rothezmel seconded the motion and it pass ed- unani-
mously. The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
SUBMITTED BY: Russell Rothermel, Secretary
DRAFT.PREPARED BY: G. Gilbert, Administrative Assistant
NEXT REGULAR MEETING
Monday, June 9, 1975
Conference Room C; Room 610'
6th Floor, County -City Building
7:30 -p.m.
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Special Meeting to resolve this discrepancy. The amount.,-
for
mount,for 11 weeks, would be $26+.00. Since the Commission ap-
proved $250.00 for Ms. Mullin's services, this was only
$1+.00 above that amount. Mr. Nimtz moved that this agree-
ment to pay 30% be approved, subject to the County Commis-
sioners' approval of Ms. Mullin's inclusion under Workman's
Compensation. Ms. Davisson seconded the motion and it was
passed unanimously.
It was decided that Ms. Schlereth, and later, Ms. McMahon,
be authorized as agent to sign Ms. Mal.lin's payroll time
sheets. It was further discussed that she work with the
Historic Landmarks Committee in the capacity of Research
Assistant.
4. Discussion of Neighborhood Preservation Workshops
A brochure from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban
Development, announcing a series of workshops, was passed
around to Commission members. The nearest workshop is to
be held in Chicago on June 16th and 17th. No Commission
member expressed any intention of attending.
5. Discussion of letters from Brian Crumlish
Mr. Oxian read a letter to the Commission which Brian Crum-
lish wrote to the Commission, dated May 28, 1975, regarding
the County Survey. There were two slight changes from pre-
vious discussions with Mr. Crumlish and the Executive Com -
mittee: 1. Mr. Crumlish is aiming for an August 1 comple-
tion date, but the proposal reads completion by September lst.
2. Crumlish/Sporleder will bring in the Cleveland consultant
for only two (2) meetings. Any additional trips would have to
be funded by the Commission at a rate of $200. per day plus -
expenses. Mr. Nimtz moved that the Commission accept the pro-
visions outlined and directed the Executive Secretary to pre-
pare a letter for Mr. Smith's signature to Crumlish/Sporleder
informing them of the acceptance of their proposal. Mr. Ro-
thermel seconded the motion. Messrs. Rothermel, Nimtz, Ox-
ian, and Stivers and Ms. Davisson voted aye. Ms. Sporleder
abstained.
Mr. Oxian next read a letter from Brian Crumlish to Mr. Wil-
liam Hojnacki, dated May 28, 1975, in regard to the City
Survey. Mr. Rothermel moved that it be sent to Mr. Hojnacki.
He also moved that copies of both letters be sent to the
Common Council and the letter regarding the County Survey be
sent to Mr. Hojnaeki. Mr. Stivers seconded this motion. The
motion was passed with Ms. Sporleder abstaining.
It was then decided to call a Special Meeting for the Commis-
sion to meet with Mr. Gaede, the consultant from Cleveland,
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when he'is'brought in by Crumlish/Sporleder at the'end
of the second week of June. Ms. Davisson moved that a
Special Meeting be called. Mr. Stivers seconded the
motion and it was passed unanimously.
6. Discussion of Ordinance
Ms. Sporleder asked what was being done about drafting
anew ordinance. Mr. Nimtz responded that it had been
tabled until after the primary elections.
7. Discussion of Guests for West Washington Meeting
Mr. Oxian reported that Mrs. Riedle had talked to him
about inviting two gentlemen from mortgage companies to
attend the next West Washington tAiin meeting. He stated
that at the last meeting much of the discussion from the
floor was about financing and these two men could perhaps
clear up some questions and problems. It was decided
that since the roster of speakers had already been decided
upon, these gentlemen.eould perhaps enter into the discus-
sions informally but could,not be dficluded on the program.
8. Discussion of Budget
Mr. Oxian declared that with the approval of Mr. Catan-
zarite he prepared a budget for both the City and the -
County. He quoted figures of $1+,000 for the City bud-
get: $4,000. for half the salary for the Administrative
Secretary and Research Assistant and $10,000. for Tech-
nical Assistance for a City Survey. His budget for the
County amounted, to $11,355.00 - $70.00 less than this year.
He submitted an itemized budget listing those items in which
there was an increase and one item that had a decrease from
this year (attached). Mr. Nimtz moved that the budgets, as -
outlined by Mr. Oxian, be approved and submitted to the pro-
per authorities. Ms. Sporleder seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
9. The meeting was adjourned at 7:55 P.M.
SUBMITTED BY: Russell Rothermel, Secretary
DRAFT PREPARED BY: Gertrud Gilbert, Administrative Assistant
PROPOSED BUDGET FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FROM ST. JOSEPH COUNTY
1975
Line item requested Budgeted
1976
1976
Proposed Budget
119.1
Adm. Secy Research Asst.
$3,600.00
in. 5% $180.
$3,780.00
212
Postage
300.00
300.00
213
Traveling Expenses
500.00
in. 20% $100.
600.00
215
Books
150.00
150.00
241
Printing, other than office supplies 400.00
400.00
242
Publication of Legal Notices
50.00
in. 300% $150.
200.00
243
Photography and Blue Prints
400.00
400.00
244
Stationery and Printing
125.00
125.00
252
Equipment
50.00
50.00
261
Legal Services
600.00
600.00
371
General Office Supplies
100.00
100.00
570
Dues and Subscriptions
150.00
150.00
263
Technical Assistance (Survey)
5,000.00
de. 10% $500.
4,500.00
(we asked for $50,000.00)
$11,425.00
$11,355.00
in.= increase
de.= decrease