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Call to Order
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Approval of Minutes-
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Corre sporidence
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Johrisoii/J`ohnson & Roy
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Budget & :Finance -1
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Historic Landmarks Coibtittee
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Caucus Meeting Report
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'Humanities --Proposal._°-
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Terms of._Agpointment ;
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Community_ Development Funds
Plaques
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Sure ey_. Inventory;' Forms'
Junior_League;Ad
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Coii�nittee 'Appointments
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He"aring of Visitors:" Building Department
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Announcements & Miscellaneous
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Adjournment
historicpreservation commission
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February 10, 1975
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Mr. Dunfee's recommendations were that an amendment to the existing
ordinance should be the Commission's highest priority, particularly
that portion which deals with proper use, and enforcement.
Upon questioning from Mr. Oxian, Mr. Dunfee stated that recommendations
from the HP Commission to either the Common Council or the County Council
to declare individual buildings historic landmarks need to be adopted in
ordinance form by the legislative body, using the legal description of the
property or building. It would only be subject to the needs of acquiring
certificates of appropriateness if the property were then zoned HP.
Upon questioning from Ms. Davisson, Mr. Dunfee explba.ned that the Com-
mission does not have anything to say about use. The Commission would
act on a certificate of appropriateness for physical changes, but the -
use stipulations are contained in the ordinance and not set by the Com-
mission. Mr. Johnson then went on to explAin that the Area Plan Commission
was now in the process of redrafting the entire zoning ordinances, and
consideration of this problem of use would be taken up. One method would
be that of employing an over -lay system, -the other would be categories
such as HP Residential -1, HP Residential -2, HP -Commercial, etc., such as
is now used in New Orleans. Mr. Dunfee then stated that as the ordinance
reads now it would be virtually impossible to create -a district, partic-
ularly n in the W. Washington area, since virtually every use other than
residential is illegal.
Mr. Dunfee went on to recommend that the Commission go before both the
Common Council and County Council and report on what has been done so
far, what will be done in the future (priorities and timetables) and
what the Commission wants them to do. Along with this should be the -
Commission's recommendation for an amendment'to the existing zoning ord-
inance and a recommendation for the establishment of the first district.
5. Treasurer's Report
Ms. Davisson reported that the Commission needs to approve payment of
$.16 that was over -spent in 197+. She also stated that we needed to
decide if the Commission wishes to stay with the line -item budget (minus
$50,000.00) that was originally draim up. Mr. Oxian moved that we
use that line -item budget as our guide. Ms. Sporleder seconded the
motion and it passed unanimously. Ms. Sporleder moved that the $.16
be approved for payment, Mr. Oxian seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
6. Correspondence
14s. Schlereth next read the correspondence, beginning with a letter
from Mr. Robert Gaede, dated 15 January 1975, thanking the Commission
for the opportunity to speak with them last month and expressing his
desire to work with the Commission.
A letter was next read from Johnson/Johnson & Roy Inc., dated 28 January
1975 informing the Commission that Mr. Richard Frank is leaving JJ & R
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but the firm plans on continuing its work in historic preservation.
Ms. Schlereth reported that a flyer had been received announcing
Smithsonian Workshops in Museum Administration forSpring, 1975.
A flyer had also been received from the National Trust announcing
their program of Youth Awards in Historic Preservation.
Pds. Schlereth next read a letter from Ms. Margaret Langford of the
Harter Heights and Neighbors Association, dated February 8, 1975,
informing the Commission of a proposed amendment to the South
Bend Municipal Codes concerning A -Residential zoning definitions.
Enclosed was a copy of a petition filed by Roger Parent.
7. Reports
Presidential Report
Mr. Smith reported that an executive committee meeting
had been held prior to this regular meeting and that
he had asked all'the officers if they would be willing
to serve another year.
Mr. Smith also stated that he would like to get the
regular meetings moving along more rapidly and one way
of doing this would be to have the committees do more
work, for them to have monthly meetings and to then
come to the regular meetings with committee recommendations.
Mr. Smith stated that he would also like to see more
detailed Treasurer's reports.
Reports to the press or other media, Mr Smith stated,
he would like to see come only from a duly authorized
individual or from the Public Relations committee, whichever
the Commission decided on.
Mr. Smith also presented the Commission with a work schedule
that had been drafted outlining the immediate tasks of the
Commission.
Budget & Finance
No report at this time.
Historic Districts
Mr. Nimtz stated that an announcement from the National
Register on Southhold's recommendation concerning the
W. Washington District would be forthcoming within ten days.
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Historic Landmarks
Mr. Oxian reported that 14r. Max Bauman would like to
have his house declared an historic landmark. He also
reported that he had no progress to report on talks with
Mr. Mossberg concerning the Frank Lloyd Wright house.
He also stated that he had no further word about the
Hamilton Church. He reported that the Harold Medow —
building belongs to b?r. Hammerschmidt, and if the Com-
mission would like to view the building they had re-
ceived permission from Mr. Ifedow to go through it.
Mr. Oxian also reported that Mr. Ransberger wanted to
know why his building had not been declared an historic
landmark. Mr. Oxian stated that he had gone through the --
house and filled out an inventory form on it. He recom-
mended that it be declared a landmark.
Mr. Smith stated that before any action was taken on any
more landmarks he would like to consider under New -Busi-
ness some Resolutions that would establish a procedure
for such declarations. He also stated that he would like
each committee to give a report from now on, with no
discussion and no motions made. Motions would be taken
up under old or new business.
Consultant's Report
Ms. Schlereth reported that the stationery had arrived and
passed around a sample.
Ms. Schlereth also passed around a sketch of the Bartlett
House that had been done by Carl Doozan, the architect that
had been commissioned to prepare some architectural sketches
for the Commission. She also stated that these sketches
might be printed onto note paper if the Commission, or the
Commission in conjunction with Southhold, might wish to sell
them.
Ms. Schlereth next introduced Ms. Tawny Ryan, a senior
American Studies major from the University of Notre Dame,
who will be working for the Commission for the spring
semester under Notre Dame's American Studies Intern Program.
Considering the Commission's earlier plans to explore
private foundation funding, Ms. Ryan is collecting data
on the Bartlett House that could be used together with
the architectural survey information already available,
to submit to a foundation as a case-study'.of what the
Commission would like to do in a survey. Ms. Ryan will
make a presentation to the Commission of lier findings, and
this would hopefully also serve as a precedent for searches
conducted on all structures that the Commission considers
for designation as historic landmarks.
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8. Old Business
Caucus Meeting
Mr. Oxian reported on the meeting he and Jack Smith
had concerning the Kresge Building and the Union Station.
He reported that Mr. Roger Parent had referred the matter
to the city attorney to explore the legal commitments the
city might be involved in if such a declaration were made.
Humanities Proposal
Ms. Davisson reported on the work that she and Ms. Schlereth
have been doing on getting people scheduled to take part
in the four workshop -discussions -planned for March -June.
A number of people from various groups within the areas
have been contacted and interviewed by Ms. Davisson and
Ms. Schlereth, and some very interesting questions were
being raised, but Ms. Davisson stated that she would like
to get more of the Commission members involved in going out
and talking with some of these people, both to educate the
residents of the neighborhoods and to educate the Commission
members on the desires and needs of the residents. Ms.
Schlereth began to outline the programs and participants.
Mrs. Price'voiced some concern over the people that were
being asked to participate, the boundaries of the W.
Washington district, and whether or not the Commission
should be getting involved in the social problems of these_
areas. An extended discussion ensued. Mr. Smith suggested
that Ms. Price meet with Ms. Davisson and Ms. Schlereth
sometime during the next week to offer suggestions of
possible participants that had not yet been considered.
Standards
Mr. Smith stated that this had been considered during the
discussion with Mr. Dunfee.
Appointments
Mr. Rothermel reported that he had been reappointed for
a three year term.
Ms. Schlereth reported that no word had been received from
the County Council as to their appointment. Their secretary
reported that their records showed Mr. Stivers serving out
a two-year appointment, and that Mr. Paszek's replacement
would be for the three-year term.
Mr. Oxian moved that the Commission go before the County
Council and talk about these appointments and the need
to have an active replacement for Mr. Paszek. Ms. Sporleder
seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
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Community Development Funds
Plaques
Mr. Smith reported that the committee will get together
sometime in the next week to draw up a proposal. He asked
that since it would have to be submitted before the next
regular meeting that he have the approval of the Commission
to submit a proposal to the city requesting funds for a
survey to be conducted vrithin the city. Mr. Nimtz so moved,
Mr. Oxian seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Ms. Davisson reported that the student she thought might
be able to do the plaques was no longer.registered with
her; so she would not be able to help in -obtaining plaques.,
Ms. Schlereth reported that she had called Mr. James T.
Wheeler, Director of Prison Industries at the Indiana
State Prison in Michigan City, and that he said they have
made plaques before, but _they do them on a special order
basis. If the Commission would tell him exactly what they
want, including the size of the signs, the lettering; etc.,
then he would give them an estimate on the cost.
Mr. Smith stated that he would be in Michigan City sometime
during the next month and that he would go to the Prison
and try to get more information and bring a sample plaque
to the next meeting.
Junior League Ad
Mr. Smith stated that he believed it was the concensus of
the Commission that this placement of an ad in the Junior
League program would be an illegal use of funds and that
the matter should be dropped. Mr. Rothermel suggested that
his earlier suggestion to write them a letter of commendation
be acted upon. Mr. Smith so instructed the executive secretary.
Survey.Forms
Mr. Smith referred this to New Business
9. New Business
Election of Officers
Mr. Smith opened the floor to nominations for the office of
President. Mr. Rothermel nominated Mr. Smith. Ms. Sporleder
seconded the motion._ Mr. Nimtz moved that the nominations be
closed and called for the question. The nomination passed
unanimously. I -
Mr. Smith opened the floor to nominations -for the office of
Vice -President. Mr. Smith nominated Mr. Oxian. Ms. Sporleder
seconded.the-nomination. Mr. Nimtz moved that the nominations
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be closed and called for the question. The nomination
passed unanimously.
Mr. Smith opened the floor to nominations for the office
of Secretary. Mr. Oxian nominated Mr. Rothermel. Mr.
Stivers seconded the motion. Mr. Nimtz moved that the
nominations be closed and called for the question. The
nomination passed unanimously.
Mr. Smith opened the floor to nominations for the office
of Treasurer. Mr. Nimtz nominated Ms. Davisson. I%
Rothermel seconded the motion and Mr. Nimtz moved that
the nominations be closed and called for the question.
The nomination passed unanimously.
Committee Appointments
Mr. Smith announced the new reorganization of the Committees
as follows:
Standards: Ms. Sporleder, Mr. Oxian
Legal Committee: Mr. Nimtz, & the new County Council appointee
Public Relations &
Community Education: Ms. Davisson, Mr. Stivers, M.S. Woolridge
Historic Districts: Ms. Woolridge, Mr. Nimtz, Ms. Davisson
Budget & Finance: Mr. Oxian, Mr. Stivers, & New County Council
appointee
Historic Landmarks: Mr. Rothermel, Mr. Oxian, Ms. Sporleder
The first named Commission member in each case is to serve
as the Chairman of that Committee. Mr. Smith called for
any comments about the appointments, asking if everyone was
willing to serve in these positions. There were no comments.
Resolutions #1 & #2
Mr. Smith distributed copies of two resolutions that had
been prepared in consultation vrith the Area Plan Commission
based on the procedures established by the Cleveland Historic
Preservation Commission for the designation of historic
landmarks and districts. Mr. Smith stated that he would
like to take action on these resolutions at this meeting -so
that henceforth the Commission would have established pro-
cedures to follow. The general feeling of the Commission was
that theyiwould like to defer this to the next meeting in order
to have:a:ehance to study the resolutions.
Survey Inventory Forms
Ms. Schlereth stated that she would duplicate a survey
form that had been prepared by the Area Plan Commission
and send it outwith the minutes.
Historic Preservation Week
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Mr. Smith asked Nis. Price if it would be possible to coordinate the .
efforts of the Commission with those of Southhold. Ms. Price stated
that she thought this would be both possible and desirable and that
they would get together with Mr. Delong who is handling publicity in
the Tribune, Mr. Ed Damms who is in charge of the photographic essay.
She stated that there would also be a house tour on May 18th.
Annual Report
Mr. Smith asked Mr. Stivers if he could work on putting
together an annual report. He would have the help of
the Commission members as well as the help of Ms. Schlereth.
Mr. Smith suggested that the Commission use the report
of the Cleveland Commission as a possible example of what
this Commission might do. Ms. Schlereth stated that she
would send Mr. Stivers a copy of Cleveland's report.
Southhold and Community Development
Mr. -Smith next read a letter from Ruth Price, Executive
Vice -President of Southhold, dated February 10, 1975,
outlining Southholds proposal to the city for consideration
in receiving Community Development funds. Mr. Smith stated
that he would like the Commission to vote a resolution of
support for Southhold's project and inform Mr. Hojnacki's
office of the Commission's action. Mr. Rothermel so moved.
Ms. Sporleder seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Harter Heights and Neighbors Association
Mr. Smith next turned the Commission's attention to the
request from the Harter Heights and Neighbors Association
to give an -opinion on the proposed change in the definitions
of the zoning ordinance. Since the Executive Director of
the Area Plan Commission was present, Mr. Smith asked Mr.
Johnson to explain the situation. Mr. Johnson stated that
two petitions had been filed by members of the Common Council
to amend the honing ordinance to redefine certain terms aimed
at a clearer understanding of what an A Residential zone would ..-
permit. Since the Commission had not had an opportunity to
study both petitions, nor to become acquainted with all that
was involved in the proposed changes, Mr. Johnson recommended
that the Commission take no action on either petition at this
time. The Commission concurred with this suggestion and
directed the Executive Secretary to respond to the letter
from Ms. Langford accordingly.
Press Releases
Pds. Davisson, as the new chairperson of the Public Relations
Committee, made a motion that Commission members when
speaking to the press or other news media, speak only for
themselves unless authorized by the Commission. Ms.
Sporleder seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
10. Hearing of Visitors
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Mr. Johnson expressed an interest in talking to the Commission about
zoning and the procedures that were involved as well as exactly what
zoning means. Since the hour was getting late, Mr. Johnson suggested
this might be done at a special meeting or at the next regular meeting.
Mr. Smith invited Mr. Johnson to come and speak to the Commission at
the next regular meeting.
Mr. Smith announced that no response had been made from the Building
Department to the Commission's request that someone come and explain
the standards and procedures of that department.
11. Announcements and Miscellaneous.
Mr. Oxian moved that the Bauman House, located at 60+13 Sumption Trail,
be recommended to the County Council for designation as an historic
landmark. Some discussion ensued as to whether such a recommendation
should be postponed until the procedures of the proposed Resolution #1
be passed by the Commission. Ms. Sporleder seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
12. Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 10:50,p.m.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING:
MONDAY, MARCH 10, 1975
*Conference Room C; Room 610
6th Floor, County -City Building
7:30 p.m.
SUBMITTED BY: Russell Rothermel, Secretary
DRAFT PREPARED BY: W. Clauson Schlereth