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DAWN M.JONES, CITY CLERK
PERSONNEL &FINANCE AUGUST 14, 2019 5:30 P.M.
Committee Members Present: Karen White, John Voorde
Committee Members Absent: Regina Williams-Preston, Jo M. Broden
Other Council Present: Tim Scott, Jake Tesha, Sharon L. McBride
Other Council Absent: Gavin Ferlic, Dr. Oliver Davis
Others Present: Jennifer Coffman
Presenters: Dan Parker, Aaron Perri, Jeff Jarnecke
Agenda: Budget Hearing: Venues, Parks &Arts
Committee Chair Karen White called the Personnel and Finance Committee Meeting to order at
5:30 p.m. She introduced members of the Committee and stated, We do not have a quorum. I
would like to share with each and every one of you Councilmember Jo M. Broden will not be here.
Judge Broden's mother passed yesterday so we do ask for your prayers and your thoughts for the
Broden family. We will now entertain any comments from our City Controller Dan Parker as we
enter the third(3`d)budget hearing, which is Venues Parks & Arts.
Dan Parker, City Controller with offices on the 12th floor of the County-City Building, stated,
Thank you, Councilmember White.This is our third(3`d)budget hearing and it is for Venues Parks
& Arts. This follows Public Works from last week. I did want to let the Council Members know
that there were a multitude of questions for Public Works and so we are still compiling the written
responses for the Public Works budget hearing,but we will do that,get those put together and sent
out within the next several days. I just wanted to mention of that. With that, I will turn it over to
Aaron Perri for Venues Parks &Arts.
Aaron Perri, Executive Director of Venues Parks & Arts with offices located at 301 South St.
Louis Boulevard, stated, Thank you Dan, and thanks for all your work that your office is putting
into this process. I appreciate it. In the packet in front of you(which is available in the City Clerk's
Office),we'll go through a presentation that we've been able to put together. A few weeks ago, we
talked about our current accomplishments and some of our ongoing goals, so today will be
primarily about the numbers, as I believe it was the intention of the Committee meeting. But, I
would just like to underscore a few things regarding where we're heading next year. We're going
to really near the finish line of the My SB Parks & Trails Initiative. I think everyone received a
save the date for the Howard Park grand reopening happening on November 29th. That's Black
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Friday. We should have about ninety percent(90%) of these projects done by the end of this year.
I'll outline the few that are remaining towards the end of the presentation.
He continued, We're going to be entering year four(4) of five(5) of our strategic plan. We should
have by the end of this year sixteen (16) of the thirty-one (31) initiatives that are outlined,
completed. Next year we'll focus heavily on employee engagement, customer service training and
things of that nature. I'll cover that a little bit later.We're looking to improve and expand the impact
of our convention center and Morris Performing Arts Center.Jeff has some time to talk about what
that looks like. Increased partnerships, and the giving program that we've done. Over$12 million
dollars in the past five (5) years has been brought in through grants and partnerships. We want to
continue down that path and focus heavily on our impact drivers. Everything you'll see and hear
us talk about, each one (1) of the numbers is reinforced by one (1) of these four(4)impact driver
areas that we talk about. Whether it be social equity and the unity that comes from making sure all
residents are served and have programs that are accessible, economic impact and neighborhood
improvements, health and wellness, and then of course environmental stewardship. Each number
is backed up by some of those things.
He went on,What we'll do to start is look through the Venues Division headed up by our Executive
Director of Venues, Jeff Jarnecke. You'll see the Morris, the Palais, Century Center, and parking
garages embedded in this. I'll come back and present the things that have traditionally been thought
of as the Parks and Recreation budget.
Committee Chair White stated, I'm going to ask the Council Members,would it be beneficial after
each major presentation that we give the Council the opportunity to ask questions? Then we move
to the next section.
Mr. Perri replied, Perfect.
Jeff Jarnecke, Executive Director of Venues with offices located at 120 Dr. Martin Luther King
Jr. Boulevard, stated, Aaron, thank you very much. We'll start with the Morris. We're pleased to
bring to you a budget that,in short,is going to increase revenues and decrease expenses,decreasing
the reliance on the General Fund. The Morris, which as we're working up to the one-hundredth
(100`h) anniversary of the Morris Performing Arts Center in 2022, has around a $6 million
economic impact for the City of South Bend. We're approaching one-hundred(100)events for this
year with the goal of getting to one-hundred twenty-five (125) events within the Morris by the
time that we're to 2022. So, a lot of terrific work being done by our team on the Morris side of it.
He continued, That budget, overall, is before you. The specific details sheet is on slide ten(10) or
on page ten (10), excuse me, through thirteen (13), but I'll just touch on the high-level items in
terms of the Fund#101. Revenues, we're anticipating to increase by about one percent (1%). That
was a conservative approach because the Morris remains largely a rental facility. Although, we're
in a position where we can now own and self-promote our own event. So, we will announce that
event later this year and continue on in the future with some events, perhaps one(1)a quarter that
we'll own. But we're largely a rental facility that leans on our partnerships with Broadway Theater
League, American Theater Guild and then the South Bend Symphony.
He went on,This coming year you'll hear more about this in short order if you haven't already,but
Lion King is coming in March,so a three(3)week lineup of Lion King. For comparative purposes,
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back in 2016 when the Morris hosted three (3) weeks of Wicked, a presentation of Wicked, we
returned more than $400,000 to the General Fund. So, we're anticipating a very good year so it's
a conservative approach relative to revenue.
He continued, On the expense side of it, you're going to see a four percent (4%) decrease. That
four percent (4%) decrease is accounted for by a number of efficiencies that we're now able to
realize within the Venues Division by the sharing of resources between the Century Center and
Morris as well as then some accounting relative to personnel. With that, it brings us to just around
$100,000 net operating loss for fiscal year 2020. That's being planned for and that is a significant
decrease in terms of a year over year comparison from what we presented to you in 2018 for the
2019 budget. Again, largely being able to realize some efficiencies on the expense side of it as
well as we're anticipating a very good year on the revenue side.
He went on, Concerning more on the Palais side of it, the next slide that's before you(referencing
a slide in a presentation which is available in the City Clerk's Office) focuses on the Palais side.
The Palais has a $2.5 million dollar economic impact on the community. Navarre Hospitality
remains our operator so they not only execute the events but they sell the space on our behalf as
well. We're not delivering top line revenue like we expect, and we need to within the next space.
That's being built off of around fifty(50) events this year. In our minds,we need to be somewhere
between that sixty-five(65)and seventy(70)number within the Palais so we're falling short of our
expectation but we're working with the Navarre team in coming up with strategies to adjust that
going forward. You are seeing an anticipated decrease of what we have on the books already for
2020 on the revenue side of it.
He continued, But on the expense side we are going to shift our personnel. That conversation and
that discussion with the folks at Navarre, they understand things cannot remain the same. We're
going to realize some of those efficiencies that I mentioned and reassign staff within the Venues
Division to better account for and right-size our operation within the Palais. All of that though,
we're pleased to be able to decrease the reliance on the General Fund and decrease our anticipated
net operating loss to around $142,000 next year as part of the 2020 budget. That information in
detail on the Palais operation is on page fourteen (14) within the packet that's before you.
Councilmember White, I'm happy to take any questions related to Morris and the Performing Arts
Center.
Committee Chair White opened the floor to questions from Council Members regarding the Palais
and the Morris.
Committeemember John Voorde stated, On my way in I asked about the new seating in the Morris
and you said that that's anticipated. Probably not next year though, correct?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, We are working on some renders right now of what the building and the
construction work would look like. We haven't announced the number associated with the
campaign. We plan to privately fundraise dollars associated with the celebration of the next one-
hundred(100)years. So,what we're anticipating with that is a capital campaign that would launch
later this year that we would seek benefactors and donors to participate in that program.That would
not only address probably in some part mechanicals and those sorts of things within the building
that are going to be needing replacement, but also re-imagining the plaza area upfront, re-
imagining the box office area,new seats within the theater,new LED lighting,new other elements
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to ensure our next one-hundred(100) years are as successful as this one-hundred(100) years. But
to your question, we have blacked out time in our calendar already in 2020 and in 2021 so we can
get all of our construction projects done during those times so that by the time we get to 2022 it's
a celebration of the past one-hundred (100) years and forward looking to the next one-hundred
(100) years.
Mr. Jarnecke continued, Also, as part of that, we're excited to include as part of that capital
campaign effort, a maintenance endowment such so that we never have to raise funds within the
Morris again. We'd be able to rely on a maintenance endowment going forward. But, we'd also
have a youth endowment so that we would be able to bring maybe some of those generations that
have missed their experience in the Morris in the last handful of years that we're able to build our
own programing to provide tickets to kids to enjoy the Morris to ensure that it's almost a right-of-
passage for the greater South Bend area. Every child in South Bend can enjoy the Morris in some
form or fashion going forward.
Committeemember Voorde asked, How's the ceiling repair going?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, Ceiling repair is still needed. Sadly, we went to bid and did not receive any
bids for that work. We went to open market and were not able to identify a vendor that would
handle that work for us. And so unfortunately, and fortunately I suppose,our calendar is now busy
enough that we don't have a long enough window to get the work done this year. So now work is
scheduled for next year in July as part of this and we're going to go back out to bid later this year
to identify the contractor. As we work through it with the contractors that expressed interest, they
were worried about their own calendar and their own timeline based on some of the complexities
associated with the work that we weren't able to find a qualified vendor. Or no qualified vendor
submitted a bid for that,so unfortunately the work is going to remain unfinished right now but will
be done next year as part of some of the other renovation projects. Happy to say that while the net
is still in place there have not been any other issues with the ceiling.
Committeemember Voorde followed up, One(1)more thing,is it your group that's responsible for
the new message board there over the walkway?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, It is our group. It is part of the Century Center efforts.
Committeemember Voorde stated, Oh, okay. That's great.
Councilmember Sharon L. McBride asked, When you talk about shifting personnel, can you
elaborate more on that? What does that look like?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, Sure. On the Palais side, we have three (3) full-time staff members that are
associated with or work there.We have an individual that assists the Navarre staff in the scheduling
of the room and the fielding of incoming calls.Then we have two(2)individuals that are associated
with event set up and event technology meaning running the PA,the lights and those things for the
events. In our discussions with the folks at Navarre, we're reassigning one (1) of the individuals
that's responsible for setup to assist more and be in the full-time side in the Morris as compared to
sharing responsibilities with the Palais and the Morris. We'll remain our headcount levels, just
reassign those responsibilities, employing that headcount and, therefore, the expense of that
individual will be off the Palais books and will be assigned to the Morris side of the ledger.
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Councilmember McBride followed up, With both of them being at a net loss, what is the benefit?
What would be the economic gain?
Mr.Jarnecke replied,The economic gain is largely an accounting measure as it relates to the Palais
side. So,while it's a reduction of expense on that,we were better able to absorb that because of the
increase in revenues and the other efficiencies on the Morris side of it. There is also a position at
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the Morris that is now being shared with the Century Center, as well. Fifty percent (50%) of that
position is being funded by the Morris and fifty percent (50%) of that position is being funded by
the Century Center. Part of the original concept about Venues, Parks & Arts was to realize some
efficiencies. But in the Venues Division we're now able to do that by sharing personnel across
divisions and across buildings.
Councilmember McBride stated, Okay. Thank you. Last year, 2019, what was the net loss or
profit? Or is it this year? Do you have those?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, Last year we ended up,while there's a bit of an accounting issue,in the black
around$177,000. We've budgeted more around$180,000 in terms of the anticipated net operating
loss but from running one-hundred two(102)events through the Morris and last year we were able
to result in$177,000 in the black.
Councilmember McBride stated,Thank you. Lastly, are there any jobs in 2019 completed that are
anticipated to be rolled over or carried over into 2020?
Mr. Jarnecke asked, In terms of construction projects?
Councilmember McBride asked,And does that money stay there or does it go into other line items?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, We do have funds available. We were able to complete those that were
anticipated in 2019 or we will later this year. That includes the precast concrete work that's
underway right now. Sealing some of the joints in the west part of the building where we're seeing
some leaks. That's around a$14,000 expense. And then we're preparing with the City Engineering
Department to go to bid for handrails in the first(1st), second (2°d), and third(3'd)balconies of the
upper area of the theater. We're waiting for those bids to come back. We anticipate that being done
by the end of the year. If we're not able to afford all those projects through our Capital Fund,which
is a non-reverting fund, then we would add that to the 2020 projects as well.
Councilmember McBride stated, Okay. Thank you.
Committee Chair White asked,Are there any other questions? I just have a couple.You mentioned
that part of your strategy moving into 2020 would be to increase revenues, decrease expenses and
have less reliance on the General Fund. You have projected increasing the rental part of the Morris
and also more events. Do you have a plan that you could begin to gauge, say as we look at 2020,
every quarter if you're not meeting those thresholds, how would you respond so that at the end of
the fiscal year you would not necessarily be looking at deficits in these areas? What happens if
you don't meet those thresholds?
Mr. Jarneke replied, The challenge for us as it relates to revenue is the variability of our business.
Since the vast majority of our events are rental events we can't make someone rent the building if
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they don't want to. So, we're continuing to question and strengthen those relationships with the
promoters that we have in area. We lean heavily on our relationship with Broadway Theater
League,which will have four(4)events over their calendar year, so four(4) during a true calendar
year and fiscal year for us where we realize the majority of our revenue. Revenues always make
us a bit anxious with those because of the lack of predictability that's associated with it. But as we
look at the trends we feel reasonably confident that we would attract those numbers.
Mr. Jarnecke continued, On the expense side though, there is a fair amount of variability that is
associated with that if we don't have the events we can minimize expenses in part-time labor that
comes in to clean the building, part-time box office labor. So, if we don't have the same number
of events and we're not selling as many tickets,then we need less labor to do those.There is a way
for us to control expenses associated with that are directly correlated to the events that we're
bringing in.
Committee Chair White stated, You said the first six (6) months you'll be in a position because I
know a lot is relying on The Lion King. That probably will be a very positive experience for the
City and for our citizens.At that point after that I would recommend that again, you probably have
already given thought to this,just to look at where you're at financially and to where you need to
move in the last six (6)months of 2020.
Mr. Jarnecke replied, Without question. I believe the first (1St) quarter will be front loaded for us
in a very,very meaningful way.Then typically our June,July,and August are some thinner months
for us based on the additional competition that we see from county fairs, from outdoor venues,and
other things that aren't in existence. Then, we are into the winter months.
Committee Chair White stated, Okay. Thank you.
Councilmember Jake Teshka stated,I apologize that I was a little tardy so if you've already covered
this, forgive me. Is raising the surcharge an option?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, It is an option. We're cognizant, because of the relationships that we have
with promoters,that we're in a price sensitive market. We look at it and the promoters are looking
for rebates on top of that. With our deal and our ticket provider there are other fees that are baked
into it. So certainly, it is an option to increase the fees that are associated with it. It just becomes
that balance of what the tipping point is and where that consumer will no longer purchase the
tickets to go to that show.
Councilmember Teshka followed up, Sure. I totally get that. It just seems like we're right there.
Right?You're not talking losses in the multiple hundreds of thousands, right?We're talking about
something that I think might be a little bit of expenses here and then maybe raising the surcharge.
We could get to that break-even point. I don't know, but you guys know much more than we do
about the market and all of that, but it seems like one dollar ($1), dollar fifty ($1.50), something
like that might go a long way on that surcharge.
Mr. Jarnecke stated, I think that's certainly one (1) strategy, Councilmember Teshka, as we look
at that, that we will employ when we're able to. Some of that wiggle room could be with certain
shows. The other area where we're challenging, I'm challenging the team and we're pleased to add
a full-time marketing manager that's from the Experience Division that's joining us now and
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dedicated to the Morris side of it. But the majority of our shows are somewhere between 1,400 to
1,700 attendees. If we're able to increase that and get our average show from 1,700 to 2,000 and
increase that so now we're driving a per caps, we're buying popcorn and drinks and soda and beer.
We're putting three hundred (300) more people into downtown that are parking and filling our
garages, that we'll look at in the #601 account coming up, that we're able to shift that to. So now
with dedicated resources that are focused on marketing and we're able to drive our attendance up
on an average show to get closer to a sell out at 2,564,then we're going to be in a stronger position
as well. To be able to further control some of those incremental costs that could be there.
Councilmember Teshka stated, Last year when we sat here, I brought to you a desire for my son
to have Paw Patrol Live come back and I just wanted to say thank you because we've got our
tickets for November. We're all set. We're ready to go.
Mr. Jarnecke stated, You're very welcome. And your son may not like the gift but on behalf of the
Venues Parks &Arts team, historically through the years there's a gift from our team to you all as
an appreciation for your continued hard work and support of the Venues Parks &Arts division.
Committeemember Voorde stated, The Palais really isn't in competition with Century Center. But
let's say there's an event like the Studebaker National Museum annual dinner. How does it work?
Do you try to steer them one (1) way or another? Do they want to be in the big place overlooking
the river?
Mr. Jarnecke answered, That's an interesting one (1). I think typically, and in the experience that
we've had with the event organizers, they have a desired look in mind. So, whether they want the
windows and the experience of the river and the lights and something a bit more contemporary,
they're probably focused more on the Century Center. As compared to, while it's a wonderful and
beautiful experience, the ballroom is much more stately and organized. That room holds up to six
hundred (600) for dinner as compared to a variety of rooms and sizes that we have within the
Century Center. Without question, we refer a business back and forth. If we're not available at a
given date,we send them to the other venue for sure and try to help them along the way. But other
factors go into that. Many like the parking that's associated with the Century Center and the ability
to park all four-hundred(400)guests outside in the lot,or four-hundred(400)cars in the lot. Being
able to walk right across the street from the Courtyard and the Double Tree that's connected. So,
there are a variety of factors, but the sales teams are aligned and do refer business back and forth
to both sides.
He continued, We're pleased to share a lot of continued excitement and great work by the Century
Center team. $13 million dollar economic impact and I'm going to touch on eSports here in just a
minute. Over the last two (2) years we've put $2 million dollars into that building and as
Councilmember Voorde was joining with us, there are expansion hopes and dreams for the future
but nothing eminent right now. We're a long way off from having that. We have a plan around it
but many, many more discussions are needed before anything is realized there. But one (1) part
that you'll hear more when we're presenting too that Hotel/Motel Tax Board of St. Joseph County.
Next week we have an initial approval from the county side of that and the allocation committee
is a$2 million dollar investment to the Bendix Theater. So,a room that is a bit dated as it is today.
A room that's limited in its functionality,but a room that has incredible potential.
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He went on, And so we are going to embark upon a $2 million dollar renovation of that space to
be able to host eSports here in South Bend. We will be an early adopter to having brick and mortar
that's dedicated to eSports. What I mean by that is the active gaming that can be one (1) person
against one(1)person or a team of six(6) against a team of six(6). By way of example,they filled
the United States Tennis Association Center court in Flushing, New York where the prize was $3
million dollars to a sixteen(16)year old that won that competition. So,while we're not necessarily
awarding$3 million dollars anytime in the future,what that means and how that's coming together
is just incredible in terms of the response that we've had with stakeholders along the way.
Presuming that the funding all lines up for that, you could see us with that restoration starting as
of January 2 and then being in the spot where we would have gaming taking place within the
Bendix sometime mid-summer of 2020.
Mr.Jarnecke continued, I should also say that does not diminish or limit the ability for our existing
stakeholders to have a meeting in there, to have church service in there on Sunday morning,to do
anything they're doing in there today,but do it better. So,our existing stakeholders have reaffirmed
their commitment to staying with us and to using that room even more. We're able to introduce a
new revenue stream while maintaining the existing business in this space and we're really proud
and excited about that development. Fund #670, which is on page seventeen (17), I've got in the
presentation you have before you, significant growth. I'm pleased to share that we're now out
through 2023 with books or events on our books at the Century Center where a number of years
ago where we weren't in that position at all. We're going to book more than 15,000 almost 16,000
hotel rooms within the community to drive that economic impact. So,I'm really proud of the team's
effort and our relationship with SMG, who's responsible for the sales and marketing, food and
beverage, and event management in addition to the City staff that help run the building. With that,
because it just takes that much more food to run those events and that much more labor to run
those events, we're going to see expenses increase as well within the building by seven percent
(7%). But, pleased to be in a spot where we're almost breaking even on that $5 million dollar
budget overall.
Mr.Jarnecke went on, I should note that we're not asking for this$57,000 to come from the General
Fund. Century Center at this point in time is not reliant on the General Fund. We will hopefully
close that gap and be in a spot that we were this past year where we're in the black as well to the
tune of almost $200,000 in the Century Center operation. We will fund that either out of the
existing cash reserves or capital on the Century Center. But wanted to bring that to the Council's
attention. The work and the budget associated with the Century Center for next year. This is the
one(1)brief slide(referencing a slide in the presentation)relative to the Century Center. I'm happy
to answer any questions from the board.
Councilmember Tim Scott asked, Are you seeing any increases due to the new hotel space?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, Without question.
Councilmember Scott followed up, Do you guys get updates on the occupancy of those hotels?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, We do.
Councilmember Scott then asked, How's that been?
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Mr. Jarnecke replied,Occupancy,the struggle we're facing is accounting. It is a bit in a tough spot.
We've seen an eight percent(8%)increase in hotel rooms within St. Joseph County overall,which
means that we're closing in on 5,000 hotel rooms within St.Joseph County. Occupancy right now
is around fifty-two percent (52%) within the county, so we're not at the performance level where
the hoteliers certainly want to be. And whether that's early indication of recession, I don't know.
We're anxious for that.The downtown hoteliers though were at about an eight percent(8%)to nine
percent (9%) contribution margin of what we're adding to their existing inventory so if you think
that if Century Center wasn't there those hotels would have to make up nine percent (9%) of their
overall room nights. That would be a big gap for them. So, they are positive. We have great
relationships with three(3) downtown hoteliers. They rely heavily on the footprint of the Century
Center and the work between Visit South Bend Mishawaka and our sales staff as well.
Councilmember Scott followed up, What was the impact to the Century Center from the Zoo and
their moves that they made down state?
Mr. Jarnecke answered, It's a challenging one (1) for us longer term. It's caused certainly the
hotel/motel tax support along with Visit South Bend Mishawaka and some of the Century Center
is a beneficiary and a name beneficiary of that six percent (6%). So, the near-term impact means
that the Hotel/Motel Tax Board is funding, as of July 1, both Mishawaka and the Zoo out of
reserves. Longer term that means that we won't have as much available to us,meaning the Century
Center and Visit South Bend Mishawaka of that six percent (6%) in the future. So, we're nearing
certainly within the next sixteen(16)months. Some are bigger decisions that are going to be made
to that. I mentioned earlier, relative to the experience, we do think the timing is right to look at a
strategic plan that may or may not include expansion, may or may not include requesting the
increase of the tax rate within St. Joseph County from six percent (6%) to some percent north of
that to help not only offset that but be a strategic approach for a long-term solution within.
Councilmember Scott followed up, So it's a true flat six percent (6%) from us from Hotel/Motel,
right?
Mr.Jarnecke replied, Six percent(6%)is what the Hotel/Motel Tax is. Currently at Century Center
in a given year it is receiving somewhere between$2.5 to $3 million dollars of that, so roughly it's
a round number, there's a million dollars associated with each percentage.
Committeemember Voorde asked, In terms of this re-imagining of Century Center there's been
some discussion I know about the relocation of the Art Center. Is that active? Do you think we'd
lose business at Century Center from a convention standpoint because we need more room?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, I wouldn't say we're losing business because of having an Art Center,by any
stretch. Do we lose business because we could use more space? Yes. That is as our shows are
growing and want to grow, especially consumer facing shows, we run the risk of losing them to
Ft. Wayne, Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, or Indianapolis. Arguably, the Art Center space wouldn't
necessarily be the right space they need to grow in anyway, so there is that component of it. It's
just not the right layout, it's not the perfect spot within the building. But are we short on space at
this point? We are, relative to how our shows and rentiers are wanting to grow. To your first(1St)
question though, the Civic Center Board of Managers have renegotiated the lease agreement with
the Museum of Art that was satisfactory to both the Art Museum and to the Century Center,which
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is not a rolling three(3)year lease agreement. Everyone's happy with that. At this point in time we
do not have any interest in losing them as a primary tenant and partner in the Century Center.
Mr. Jarnecke continued, These two (2) last slides for you (referencing the presentation). On the
parking side, so Fund #601, which is on page twenty-one (21) of the packet before you. $4.5
million worth of improvements in 2019, so we were in need of some repairs. A majority of that
went into the Main & Colfax Garage with $1 million being invested in that garage. More than
$200,000 in both the Wayne Street and the Layton Garage later this year. Occupancy within the
Layton Garage remains very strong at about one-hundred eight percent(108%) capacity,meaning
Colfax is around one-hundred four percent(104%), one-hundred five percent(105%) of capacity.
Wayne Street is lagging behind but I think we'll catch up with some of the businesses going in that
direction at around seventy-five percent (75%) of capacity. Because of that, we do anticipate
revenues continuing to grow year over year without a rate increase. Later this year we'll be bringing
a strategy to you relative to parking operations within the City of South Bend going forward.
Mr. Jarnecke went on, You'll also notice that expenses are anticipated and we're asking to be
budgeted at a number dramatically less because we're not going to infuse as much capital into the
garage in terms of the repairs because we're able to make a significant leap forward this year and
we don't want to have as many projects to do next year. That brings us to profit. $175,000 roughly
in terms of the anticipated part of the budget and we remain in a very strong cash position within
the garage operation itself. I'm happy to answer any questions.
Councilmember Scott stated, The parking garage operations, you guys note the parking garage
operations are under outside contract with DTSB.
Mr. Jarnecke answered, Correct. DTSB and then an organization called Block by Block that
services and maintains the garages.
Councilmember Scott asked, It's not Block by Block directly with the City?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, Block by Block is contracted directly through Venues, Parks & Arts in the
City. Correct.
Councilmember Scott followed up, And then where's DTSB in that then?
Mr. Jarnecke replied, DTSB is also contracted by the City. So, DTSB has the management of the
garages. They employ the staff person to which that individual handles all the monthly renews and
all the monthly parkers. Then Block by Block is the group that maintains the garage in terms of
the aesthetics. It's the group you call if you need an escort to the garage.
He continued,And then lastly in terms of the Venues topics, I believe in front of you is discussion.
We've touched on this already relative to a number of positions within the Morris side of it. So,
there is one (1) promotion of an individual. I'm not excited to share but we had three (3) of the
individuals within the City that were three(3)of the lowest paid individuals of all City employees.
Part of the correction that you'll see is not only a promotion that's well deserved,but the individual
that's coming from the Palais side to the Morris side,they'll be able to use that individual's degree
that they have to better herself as we go as well. Then salary adjustments for our two(2)custodian
positions that we have as well. Those salaries would bump up to $30,000 compared to where they
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are right now around$24,000.Those are the two(2) adjustment or three(3) adjustments that we're
proposing relative to the staffing side of it. I touched on capital projects at length so I'll not go into
any additional detail there.And parking,I mentioned that as well. So later this year as we formulate
and Council Members discuss line of questioning relative to the operation the agreement with
Block by Block expires December 31, 2020., we're exploring the ideas of different operators in
new technology and improving the overall experience along with pricing strategy associated with
the garages then going forward. Later this year we'll have that plan available for the Council.
Mr. Perri stated, Good evening, again. As we transition, I wanted to make sure to recognize the
VPA team leadership team that's here. They don't get an opportunity to sit in front of the Council
very often. Mr. Perri then introduced staff members present in the audience. He stated, A special
thanks to them for putting all of this together and the work that goes behind implementing it all.
He continued,As you move into Fund#201, we'll focus heavily on the numbers. This is found on
page twenty-three(23) of your packet if you're following along.You'll see that Fund#201 appears
twice in your packet back to back on page twenty-three (23) and twenty-four(24). I would highly
recommend looking at page twenty-three (23). If you recall last year we combined Funds #201,
#203 and #405. Page twenty-three (23) illustrates the historical combination of the three (3)
accounts. That would be the most accurate picture to look at.
He went on, This year, or proposed in 2020, I would call this a maintenance budget. We've had
quite a few years of capital investments that will have been in front of you bringing quite a few
things in the combination of different funds and even the consolidation of VPA. Quite frankly this
budget's pretty simple compared to the ones I've brought to you the past three(3)or four(4)times.
Some of the major things happening on the revenue side of things, we are seeing a decrease in
property taxes that's projected to be about $340,000 less next year. As we're all aware, property
tax caps are taking a full impact and so that's how we're going to feel it on the parks side of things.
We'll see that grants are down about $4.75 million. Those are just project grants that we are
rounding out. Primarily that's made up of the Regional Cities money that's being spent out at
Howard Park. Other project-related type things, again small grant money that's been coming in
that we're spending out that we just won't see again. Those are one (1) time kind of expenses that
are off the table. Including moving some things off our books. I'll talk about it when we look at
some historical things like West Side Main Streets that were historically on our books that are
going to live outside of Fund#201.
He continued,Then we also on the revenue side of things are looking to see an increase.Requesting
Council approval of an increase of$400,000 in the General Funds support. I wanted to illustrate
that footnote there though. Previous five(5)years we were averaging about$1.1 million dollars in
General Fund support. Due to various reasons and some of the healthy cash reserves we had, we
were able to take that down to about $400,000 here in 2019. We want to move that back up to
about$800,000 just because you see our big dip in property taxes, so to normalize what's going on
there.Nonetheless,it's still a decrease reliance on the General Fund of what we've historically been
seeing if we normalize it. The other side of the revenue includes the charges for services. We've
had a perineal error show up on our books. We had some big Department of Community
Investment service maintenance agreements which showed up year after year and it's not
something that we ever formalized or had on our books. So,Howard Park,we're going to see some
increase there. Skating is scheduled to open up at the end of this year and room rentals as well as
rent on the café space that we see coming in,so we'll see some nice revenue there. Golf is projected
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to hit that final break-even point next year. So again, seeing some increased revenue on the golf
side of things. Also, that will be due to some of the cross utilization of the Erskine Clubhouse for
private rentals and events as well.
He went on, The program optimization, quite often we look at our portfolio programing to see
where there's redundancy. We want to make sure we're filling all the gaps and places where we
see decreasing participation, industry trends or otherwise we look at eliminating some programs.
So, things like the Kid's World day camp or flag football. We won't see those revenues, but we
also don't see those expenses on the expense side of things. Then, we are just trying to make the
budget a better tool to manage by. It seems like year after year,now that I've gotten into this a few
times, we've historically inflated our revenues to some degree. I want to normalize that and make
sure it's actually a tool that we can manage by itself. All in all, that's where you're seeing the
charges for services go down. But nonetheless, the footnote there is at the end of the day it's
significantly higher than what we were seeing historically. That's the revenue side of things.
He continued, On the expense side of things we're still on that Fund #201, #203, and #405
combination. Personnel, we are anticipating just like every City department the two percent (2%)
salary increases. Like I mentioned on the revenue side, we tended to over budget, particularly on
our part-time labor. We took a hard look at that. Every year we were ending up with extra money
in that fund with our part-time and seasonal folks. We had some minor reorganizations as we had
somebody move out of the Experience Division, we decided instead of hiring a full-time position
back,we can do it with some part-time or contract labor. We're trying to be smart about that as we
see contrition otherwise. We see some small savings there.
He went on, We will bring back in the Howard Park staff. We had a few years of not having them
on board but these are primarily part-time or these are all part-time and seasonal folks. These are
rink guards and landscapers and those types of people. Health insurance benefits are going up.
You're probably seeing that across the board in every department. At the end of the day though it
all comes out to about a two percent (2%) growth. That's right about where we want to be. This
does include one (1) personnel change request. This would take our project manager and move
him into the manager of public construction. This position already exists in the salary limits. I
believe that there's one(1) or two (2) other folks in the City that have this title. His work is really
in line with what they do. His quality and quantity of effort, so we want to recognize that. He's
been with us for a couple of years now and we'd like to put him up to peers in other departments.
That does come out to about a $13,000 increase in the salary ordinance for his position. We only
anticipate awarding approximately half(1/2)of that in year one(1). I wanted to make sure I noted
that.
He continued, The other side of expenses becomes the supplies and services and charges. Across
all divisions, we're just tightening our belt and trying to absorb some of the property tax decrease.
We looked at historical spending and where we could cut some things and just cross-utilize some
of the things that already exist in the department. So, we're going to be doing that there. Utilities
are going up. As green as we're trying to be, that needs to be a challenge every year. But a large
part of that is bringing Howard Park back online. We got a new community center and ice-skating
rink which does consume, even though we're going to be, I think, certainly LEAD gold certified,
I just found out the other day. So,we're pushing that. It's still going to be a costly building to have
online. Debt service increases about $79,000. That's primarily golf carts and Boomer, as planned.
We're seeing a decrease on My SB Parks & Trails projects. Again, as we're winding those down
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we won't see those show up in our expense budget. They're small re-categorizations happening.
We see things bouncing around a little bit and have questions there that are particular. I can
certainly answer those but that's net zero (0), which might have shown up in one(1) line last year
and in a different line this year. Then program expenses, I mentioned that as we look at optimizing
our portfolio we saw some revenue decrease. We're seeing even more decrease on the expenses.
He went on,Allocations are going down this year. That's directed to our department. At the end of
the day about $1.4 million dollars net reduction in expenses but if you normalize it, take all the
one (1)-time project type things, My SB Parks & Trails otherwise, that's close to a $300,000
reduction in the expenses. Just to put that into historical context, that's the next slide there
(referencing the presentation), slide thirteen (13), I think it's important to look at where we came
from and see how the trends are shaping up. Expenses, salaries and wages have since normalized
combined, so this is Fund #203, #405 and #201 combined and normalized since 2015, taken out
all the one(1)-time projects, salaries and wages increased about two percent(2%) a year. Supplies
have grown about two percent (2%) a year. Allocations have gone up as we all know there was a
change in the City's restructuring of how IT costs were otherwise allocated out to departments.
These were charges that were already in the City budget, they just got put on the departments.
Services and charges have increased about a percent and a half(1.5%). The interesting point about
all of this though is you're seeing very modest increases year over year. But this includes the
addition of quite a few things through the years. Some of the things that I said are no longer in our
budget that we've figured out how to move those out, the West Side Main Streets project and
service maintenance agreements. We've done centralized mowing, added in Smart Streets and
caring for Boland Trail, and managing all of this My SB Parks & Trails initiative. We expanded
things like the Charles Black Center and added new programs like the soon to be ice skating. All
of our standards as we started with our impact drivers, our standards have been increasing very
stringently. We see some savings through all these efficiencies that we've talked about. Jeff
mentioned some of them. And then we've grown our youth scholarship fund. It's pretty interesting
to see on the expense side of things very modest increases with quite a bit of returns to the
community.
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He continued, On the revenue side of things unfortunately, like I said, this year with property tax
caps we're sliding a little bit backwards. But by and large we've been growing about five percent
(5%) a year. Charges for services, that revenue side has remained relatively flat on what we see
that growth projection coming online here with Howard Park, the golf, some of the things I've
mentioned earlier. Donations to our programs and events primarily through sponsorships have
been averaging about $125,000 a year. That's money that didn't used to be in the system. The
General Fund support, whether it be through the form of pilot or more recently COIT, averaged
about$1.1 million a year. I said that earlier. Reduced to $400,000 and put it back up to $820,000.
Project grants and donations, we're really proud of this part, that we've been able to bring in $12
million dollars through various grants and partnerships over the past five(5) years.
Committee Chair White opened the floor for questions from Council Members.
Councilmember Scott stated, The DCI estimate error,that always drives me nuts. Can you explain
that? Go into more detail on this?
Mr. Perri replied, It's called a service maintenance agreement that we had. It's supposed to be a
transfer of funds. It was basically double budgeted in both of our accounts. It was an expense to
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take care of vacant properties that DCI owned. They're paying for that directly out of their
accounts. We had previously put it in as a revenue item. But it never realized, so we wanted to get
it out of there.
Councilmember Scott stated, Okay. The other question, I talked a little bit about DTSB and West
Side Main Streets, what do you mean by leaked$157,000, $400,000 annually?
Mr. Perri replied, As we worked on combining Venues Parks & Arts over the past few years, we
took on the management of DTSB,West Side Main Streets,and some of those things.Historically,
those contracts had gone through the Redevelopment Commission and were paid for by DCI. For
the most part that has remained true but various pieces and parts came over and got burdened on
Fund#201.We're correcting that in this year's budget to make sure that the Redevelopment funding
is taking care of those programs. So, you won't see those show up in our budget. You'll see those
show up elsewhere.
Councilmember Scott stated, Okay. That is a concern of mine because I didn't know. I've been on
DTSB forever and it was always through DCI that the money was allocated from the City through
DCI to there. I understand the parks, the red shirt part a little bit,but to me it's expanding way too
much into parks. I look at DTSB as the business side first(1st)and then the funds side second(2n1),
you know? So that tie back to DCI, I think, is really important. All right. Thank you. When will
that happen?
Mr. Perri answered, That will be in the 2020 budget.
Committee Chair White stated, I do have some questions. Mr. Perri, as you look at some of the
recreational centers, there are neighborhoods that are not as wealthy as others and are somewhat
challenged. How do you view those neighborhood centers in regard to looking at them to generate
revenues that might not be there? But also, as I look at the Charles Black Center from an
operational perspective, that Center has been expanded but the personnel to maintain the Center
inside and outside is not there. I notice that you have mentioned that you're proposing a part-time
person for Howard Park. I know that there are a lot of questions but I want you to talk a little bit
about the philosophy that you may have in regards to these centers that are not really the same.
Mr. Perri stated, Absolutely. Our community centers, we really look at those as service first (1St)
I think I've talked to the Council about our cost recovery pyramid before. This idea is that things
like golf or concessions are supposed to make revenue and bring money back into the community.
Things like mentoring programs or youth athletic leagues that we sponsor like the VPA Youth
Basketball or otherwise, sometimes we'll have small participation fees but the cost to participate
is significantly less than we'll ever be able to recover because we want to ensure participation
remains high. Frankly,money shouldn't be a barrier to entry for any of our programs. The bulk of
our programs at the centers are free. Very, very few programs cost money to participate. If you
look at our recreation budget and you start to divide it out, more than fifty percent (50%) of our
programing budget goes to the combination of Martin Luther King Center and the Charles Black
Community Center. So that's a point of pride for us and one(1)that we don't want to throttle back
on. When it comes to caring for the facilities and otherwise, we're trying to always optimize that
as best as possible. My office doesn't get cleaned but once a week. We all take out our own trash
and otherwise. Our programing staff talked about our mission statement and as they went through
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the Drucker Institute, one (1) of the things is called Caring for our Shared Spaces. That's one (1)
of the tenets that they have. Making sure it's widely accessible and available, and clean.
Committee Chair White followed up, So then the expectation would be that individuals are
working within our facilities that they would have the expectation to ensure that the centers in
which they work in would be clean?
Mr. Perri responded, Each center staff does have one (1) custodian assigned to it. Actually, that
was just a recent change. They're reporting now directly to the center staff. Then our facilities and
grounds team will be responsible for the major projects and repairs as well as the exterior
landscaping, snowplowing, cutting grass and otherwise. Just like we treat every other park and
facility.
Committee Chair White asked, But as we move forward,as homes are being increased and looking
at Howard Park, just the size of that park alone and then from the operating perspective as we
move forward, what would that look like in order to ensure that the facility and the programs and
the services are maintained with the staff that you might have? I'm looking at the operating budget
and there are some gaps there.
Mr. Perri stated,We're not adding a lot.With Howard Park,we didn't reduce a lot of the staff when
we closed it down. We had a Director of the Howard Park Community Center. At one(1)point in
time you may remember Rose Kaufman.
Committee Chair White replied,Yes.
Mr. Perri continued, Rose is still there and she's going to come back on as the director of that
facility. She also has a part-time employee that helps out with some of the programing. We didn't
eliminate those positions over the past couple of years. Same thing when we close Charles Black
Center. I promised the Council that we wouldn't eliminate positions.We found ways to keep people
employed throughout these construction projects and otherwise.You're seeing things like a modest
increase in staffing for Howard Park. That's primarily part-time positions. Most of that is the ice-
skating rink guards or people that will take money and give you your ice skates. That's where most
of it is. We're trying to do everything as lean as we can. That's really important to us.
Committee Chair White followed up, Yeah. I'm looking at projections in terms of revenues and
there are some projections but also you are looking at a proposed increase of$800,000 for support.
That's coming out of COIT funds. I'm on page seven (7). Reduce to $400,000 2019 but you're
proposing to bring that up to $800,000 for 2020.
Mr. Perri replied, Historically, that had covered things like the allocations and otherwise. I had
mentioned it was about$1.1 million dollars. Last year we had a pretty healthy cash reserve balance.
We were able to take that down to $400,000. But given the property tax reductions that we're
facing this year, we would have to face some really difficult decisions if weren't able to get some
additional General Fund support. Not quite to the historic levels of the$1.1 million dollars but up
to the $800,000 will help us be able to ensure we can do all of our programming and care for all
of our things to our existing standards.
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Committee Chair White stated,Okay. Based on everything that is coming out of Parks and Venues
and all the different programs and looking at where we're at from a financial perspective, are you
confident that you will be able to maintain or even increase the programs and the staff within the
operating budget and not run into any difficulties?
Mr. Perri replied, I feel pretty good about it. I'll talk on our cash balance towards the end but we'll
continue to work on our business modeling into the future. I think particularly by having General
Fund support at these levels, it's a sustainable budget.
Committee Chair White stated,Okay. And do you see that General Fund support being maintained
from say 2020 as you mentioned,to 2021? Because I know all of us are being asked to live within
our budgets.
Mr. Perri stated, Yes.
Committee Chair White followed up, I just want to get a sense, as we move to 2020, 2021, 2022
and thereafter.
Mr. Perri replied, Yeah. I'll continue to work with the finance team on that and of course Council.
That would be the hope. That more or less offsets some of the allocations. That's why it's a little
bit interesting when you talk about living outside the General Fund. We're our own taxing unit, so
having that support when things like allocations get transitioned over to our budget bringing some
additional revenue to help offset, that is very helpful and appreciated. We're grateful that the
finance team and the Mayor's Office supports that decision.
Councilmember McBride asked, If I understand you correctly, there's no cost associated for the
Charles Martin Center and the Charles Black Center? I mean Martin Luther King's program?
Mr. Perri replied, With the Charles Black Center and the Martin Luther King Center, some things
have costs. We can get you a breakdown of the costs of every single program. But I would say, I
don't want to misspeak but a percentage of programs are no cost to the centers, yes. I'm speaking
off the cuff here, so we'll get you a written schedule.
Councilmember McBride followed up, Have the numbers gone down on participation?
Mr. Perri replied, Participation, no. As part of our follow up we'll make sure we'll get you
participation levels and the fee structures at the centers. But you're going to see a lot of zeros in
the fee structure.
Councilmember Teshka asked, As part of that too,just to dovetail on that, in that follow up could
you include how manyof those that are fee'd are scholarshipped? I think that's a keypiece of that.
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Mr. Perri replied, Absolutely.
Councilmember McBride asked, Also, for clarity, there was not any reduction in staffing with the
renovation?
Mr. Perri replied, No.
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Councilmember McBride asked, In 2020,what is the total overall debt? When you're talking about
expenses versus revenues, was there a net?
Mr. Perri replied, We actually showa budget bd et that would be in the black of$129,000.
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Councilmember McBride followed up, Okay. I don't want to take up all the time, but I am
interested in more information about the negative $1.1 million dollars for My SB Parks & Trails,
but I can defer that and ask later.
Mr. Perri replied, We'll make sure that we get that written down.
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Committeemember Voorde asked, Can you comment at all on Fredrickson Park? You may be
partnering with the Scouts over there to try to do something. The Scouts may be in trouble.
Mr. Perri replied, Fredrickson's an interestingThe Cit has invested quite a bit of money
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into it. Those of you that have been on Council for a while understand. It's a former landfill site so
the City about, I want to say eight (8) years ago now, invested well over $1 million in a clay cap
and a methane burning system. We made it into, basically, a prairie. We have some trails through
it but other than that it's a prettypassivepark. Not a lotyou can do with the claycaplimitations.
Can't really install footers and playgrounds and pavilions and some of those things.The Boy Scouts
are obviously a huge stakeholder in that property. They're backdoor butts right up to the park so
we did sign an MOU through the Park Board making it what they call a STEM park so that they
would put together Scouting projects,Eagle Scout projects,and otherwise,and put them on display
for the community to engage with. They did an Eagle Scout project a few years ago that involved
an overlook on the retention pond that's back there. They help out with the mulching,the paths and
otherwise. But I think there' are some creative things we could still do there. It just hasn't been in
the immediate plan. I think we have something like thirty (30) odd project sites happening right
now. Quite a bit, but it's not all of them. In Fredrickson, we've got a nice willing partner that has
some ideas. We continue to be vetted through the neighborhood and we look forward to seeing
what comes from it.
Committeemember Voorde followed up, I think Fred Ferlic is working on it.
Mr. Perri replied, Absolutely. Dr. Ferlic, Joe Grabill, and Judge Gotsch. A lot of familiar names
are on that Boy Scout board. You do have some good community engagement there.
Councilmember Scott stated, Grass cutting. Something I forgot to talk about today, I'd like to sit
down with you and maybe John and talk about how we can expand the youth program for grass
cutting. Again,this year, of course Council gets tons of calls on grass lots and I think there's more
we can do to employ our youth. I know you've talked to a few individuals, and I know John has,
but I'd like to sit down and figure out what we could do to increase those numbers. More than
double that. Figure that out.
Mr. Perri replied,Absolutely. We have a lot of grass cutting calls that come to us because not only
are we in charge of parks but we're also in charge of all the redevelopment properties, and Code
mowing. So, we have quite a bit of resources going into grass. As a matter of fact, we did an
exercise recently. Grass cutting alone when you look at our budget, I mean it's north of a half a
million dollars in the grass cutting.
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Councilmember Scott followed up, Right. It doesn't seem like we're getting ahead of it either.
That's perception more than anything but we know we have issues there.My thing is for everybody
else, there's a nonprofit organization in St. Louis called Operation Brightside where kids run
around in orange T-shirts and they're employed all summer. Hundreds of them. To do nothing but
picking up trash, cut grass. That's why I brought up the youth program that you guys embrace,
which is really good. But I think what we got to do is expand on that. We really want to push for
that. Dan Parker, I know you're taking notes. It's something that I really want to look at because
not only can we benefit the City but our youth too. Summer jobs.
Mr. Perri replied, I appreciate you mentioning that. I had a note actually when I was talking about
personnel that I totally skipped over. It's on the slides but this budget does include full funding
again plus a little bit more for the mentor mowing program. We do want to expand it. We also, I
think I mentioned last time we were together,have a new program that is a partnership with Beacon
as it came out of My Brother's Keepers. It is a youth leadership academy. Right now, college
students have been trained. I got to spend time with them a few weeks ago out at the Martin Luther
King Center. A group of a dozen young men and a dozen young ladies are getting trained in
leadership skills.Next year we hope to be able to employ some of them in various roles throughout
the department. We are including money for a partnership with the Juvenile Justice Center to
employ high potential at-risk youth next year. We've got four (4) positions slated for that as well
as a burgeoning partnership with the Drucker Institute to identify high potential adults who are
economically at-risk. So, that's a neat pilot program we're working on. Those are all interesting
things. We think about every single one (1) of our positions as more than just a job because they
could change lives. Thanks for giving me a chance to highlight that. There is more to come there.
Committee Chair White asked, Aaron could you just refresh my mind on the graffiti program? Is
that coming out of Parks?
Mr. Perri stated, It is.
Committee Chair White followed up, How is that going, and what dollar amount has been
identified to support graffiti? Has that declined or are we experiencing an increase?
Mr. Perri replied, I can get you a fuller answer on that. I'll ask John and he'll help me do that. We'll
get you a response on where the numbers are.
Committee Chair White followed up, Okay, but it's still it's under Parks,right?
Mr. Perri replied, It is still under Parks.The code and graffiti program costs about$280,000 a year,
so the work that we do with Code and Code cleanups, Code lots and graffiti. That is still in the
budget. It's an important part of us. We have the standard of removing graffiti within twenty-four
(24)hours of it being reported. That's the best way to combat that. We also work very closely with
the Police Department. Sometimes these tags can be gang related or crime related, so we keep a
good inventory. It's more than just wiping off spray paint. There's a lot to it.
Committee Chair White stated, Okay.And you've been looking at some of the youth employment.
It would be somewhat exciting to see, as we look at our centers, to see how we could support
employment of those individuals that live within the neighborhoods that will be impacted at a
different level, too, so I'll share with you some ideas that I have in that regard as well.
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Mr. Perri replied, Thank you.
Mr. Perri continued, I have two (2)more slides that I'll go through (referencing the presentation).
These won't probably invoke a lot of questions because there are very few changes. Here the
axillary funds, Fund #751. It's page thirty-two (32) and thirty-three (33). This was a 2015 Park
Bond out at the Charles Black Center. That was the last project we had. That's all closed out so
you won't see any expenses there other than paying the debt service which is Fund #757. That's
about $380,000 a year paid from EDIT, Economic Development Income Taxes. The 2017 Park
Bond,no changes there either. We're paying about$1 million annually on that debt service. That's
coming from a special property tax levy that normally funded the College Football Hall of Fame.
Coveleski,it is still officially Coveleski Stadium but now Four Winds Field at Coveleski Stadium,
that's how it shows up, and that's page twenty-seven (27) of your packet. This is where we record
the revenues from the ticket share agreement. We spend approximately all of that every year on
various capital projects in and around the building. That's what that fund is. Fund#730 is the City
Cemetery. That's page thirty (30) of your packet. We're on year two (2) of three (3) of major
upgrades out there. If you haven't been there lately there are new paths, the redevelopment of the
entryway and all the limestone headstone repairs are really starting to improve that property.
He went on,Then finally Fund#731 is the Bowman Cemetery. You'll notice a pretty healthy cash
balance. That's a trust account that we can't spend anywhere other than Bowman Cemetery. We
currently don't really have any needs out there. That's over there on Miami. Currently they don't
have any needs out there so that fund will continue to accrue until if and when we have some needs
in and around the cemetery. It will be well taken care of. Then the final two (2) accounts you'll see
there are Funds#203 and#405. They're included for historical accuracy. There's nothing in them.
There wasn't in 2019. There won't be any going forward. Again, those are consolidated into that
page twenty-three(23) that I mentioned earlier.
He continued, Finally, we were asked to just discuss any major capital projects. We're embarking
on a two (2) year plan to work on all of the neighborhood athletic courts. These are basketball
courts, tennis courts, softball fields, things like that, that you see are in dire need of upgrades. So,
we'll embark on that next year to really finish the My SB Parks&Trails project. So,this has taken
a little bit longer for some of these to get out of the gate than we might have hoped for various
reasons,but that's the list of ones that will be finished in 2020. The only remaining project will be
Seitz Park. That's lagging a little bit behind because of the Notre Dame hydroelectric project. But
we're finally breaking ground on that this coming Monday. If you haven't seen an invite that should
be showing up in your inboxes pretty quick. Howard Park I had mentioned earlier,that's scheduled
to wrap up by the end of this year. If you'll notice in our Fund #201, we do have a very, very
healthy cash balance that far exceeds our reserve requirement.That's because we haven't allocated
all of the Howard Park spending. You're going to see that in quarter three(3) appropriations. Just
reminding you now. We'll talk about it in quarter three (3), but there's about $2.9 million of that
that's going to be appropriated in quarter three(3)to finish out Howard Park.Then Jeff had already
touched on planning for the future venues. I don't see significant cash coming out.We didn't budget
that here in 2020,but we do want to make sure that continues to get footnoted,the future of Century
Center and the major initiatives around the next one-hundred (100) years.
Councilmember McBride asked, Where are we with Randolph?
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Mr. Perri replied, Randolph Park got a brand-new playground just installed. It looks great if you
haven't been by there. The sidewalks are in and we did get the street vacated, Sampson Street.That
will terminate right into Randolph.We're working on plans with the Streets Department and Public
Works to figure out exactly how drainage is going to work in and around the park to make that a
safe den in there. But we hope to be able to conjoin the two (2) parts of Randolph so we can
graduate it from a mini park to a real park.
Councilmember Scott stated, Brownfield Park. So, Brownfield Park, the basketball court's been
great. That really brought new people in. Parking has been great. That was done around the time
of the roundabout. The rest of the time that park was used for some football and soccer every now
and then. Otherwise that park was empty. Few people on the swings, but the new playground
equipment and that zip line have people lined up. That is the coolest thing ever. I drive by there all
the time and you just get a chuckle because there's kids and there's adults going down that zip line.
Mr. Perri replied, I've been on it.
Councilmember Scott followed up, Yeah. I haven't yet but I will.
Mr. Perri replied, You should try it.
Councilmember Scott continued, So, it's really just those few amenities that you added that really
brought people out to that park. But the one(1)big thing that really helped out was the bench there.
Really facing the zip line that parents can come down there and sit. That was the big thing that was
missing out of that park. We just had a neighborhood meeting, a little get together and they said,
"That's the beauty of it. Parents can come down, sit down while their kids are doing whatever." It's
sitting out in the field but it's not really in the shade but there's a place for them to sit down. You
wouldn't believe, there are more people in this park already since you guys opened that than I've
seen in a full year's time before. So, thank you for doing that.
Mr. Perri replied, I certainly appreciate the comment. It's interesting. Of the millions of dollars of
improvements we're doing in the neighborhood parks, these are the ones that are getting the most
kudos back on. You may go visit the Charles Black Center on occasion or Howard Park on
occasion, but the neighborhood parks are where you go daily. So, those improvements, I think
when you add them all up between the restrooms, the athletic courts that we have planned and the
playgrounds, I think it's twenty-six(26)different neighborhood parks that saw some pretty special
upgrades.
Councilmember Scott followed up, It'd be great to have a restroom there.
Mr. Perri replied, Yeah.
Councilmember Teshka stated, We'll continue dialog about somehow getting some park space the
fifth (5th), but I would just like to thank you. I think your presentation was fantastic and you ran
with what we asked for last year.That was to come at us with some numbers and you did a fantastic
job. So, thank you and your team for putting this together because it's a super informative
presentation. I really like the way that you normalized some of those figures, as well. That helps
us get a better view of that, so thank you for doing that.
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Committeemember Voorde asked, Is there a new river lighting project of some kind?
Mr. Perri replied, No, not immediately. Although, it's always in the back of my mind. You may
recall we did hire a firm probably about a year ago to come in and look at how the River Lights
Trail could evolve. So, to expand on the success of that we have there and maybe go between
Colfax and Howard Park, we could make it a loop system. We've got some concepts there. We
wrote a grant to the National Endowment for the Arts and got some seed money to explore those
concepts. But as you can see, we're pretty busy with all these other projects and doing some final
fundraising around some of these other things, so it's in here somewhere John, but not a major
priority right now.
Committee Chair White stated, Okay. Well, we thank you for your presentation and for the staff
with all of the work that you have done and they have done and continue to do, on behalf of our
citizens and the City at large.
Committee Chair White then opened the floor to members of the public.
Sue Kesim, 4022 Kennedy Drive, stated, I'd like to know the study down in reserves for the last
five(5) years by year. I'd like to know how much of the multi-million dollar bond funds are gone
versus how many years we have to pay them off. I'd like to know about park police. There seems
to be a lot of crime in the parks. I have friends at Keller Park. They can't use the park after dark.
So, I think we need to have that addressed and I don't know what funding there is for that. Security
for the parking garages,if there's funding for that. I'd like to see a map of the neighborhoods outside
the downtown. So, what funding is left for outside the downtown? I think that's important. I'm
concerned that we aren't using a pay as you go type strategy. I wonder about the wisdom of taking
out a bond for a giraffe and the party room when you've got twenty percent (20%) of the sewers
done. The roads are on the one-hundred (100) year schedule. The water isn't up-to-date, and we
have public safety needs. I wonder about your priorities on the$650,000 boom box. It wasn't built
in Elkhart and it didn't even boost our local economy. That's over a half million dollars. I'm
concerned about spending over$200,000 on a beam for a 1,000 pound chandelier for Phantom of
the Opera. That probably damaged the ceiling, so now there's more expense on that. Arborist's
licenses. I think it'd be great to make them take a class on how to properly do landscaping. I see a
lot of damage to trees, which as a master gardener bothers me. I think it is part of the arborist's
license we could charge more and then give them an annual class. Most of all I'd like the Council
to use the needs versus wants. As you're doing this, put an N next to needs, a W next to wants.
We've got huge deficits so if it's not a need,put a line through that want because that hasn't seemed
to happen very much. So,just common sense.What people do at home. Is it a need? Is this a want?
I don't think a giraffe and a party room is a need. We've got plenty of roads that need to be done.
Eighty percent(80%)of the sewers aren't done. So, I think your priorities need to just be really cut
and dry.
Councilmember McBride asked, Ma'am, where is a giraffe and a party room? Where's that?
Ms. Kesim stated, That was at the zoo. You guys approved that.
Committee Chair White stated,Okay.Thank you. I do know that the question in regard to the beam
at the Morris Performing Arts, that was a question that was asked last year. I'm going to ask Aaron
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to respond to it because we actually, if I'm not mistaken, we were reimbursed for that. But I will
make sure.
Council President Time Scott clarified, We were.
Committee Chair White stated, But I want to make sure. But we have all your questions and we
thank you for sharing those. Some of which we'll respond to. Others we will have to put in writing
for you.
Isaac Hunt, 138 East Broadway, stated, I'm not here representing my organization, I'm just here as
a citizen. I have a couple questions that I'm hoping Mr. Perri can answer. As far as the Charles
Black and the King Center who's cutting the grass? There are times where I've gone out to the
O'Brien Center and the grass is immaculate. And you go over to the King Center and it hasn't been
cut in a week. I know that, and this is my understanding. It could not be accurate, and I would like
to get answers on this. As far as maintenance personnel, I know at the Charles Black and the King
Centers are bigger but you have more maintenance personnel at the O'Brien Center than you do at
the two (2) other facilities. I want to know what the reasoning is behind that. In addition, a lot of
people in the community are saying that the summer programs are being cut for people from thirty
(30) to twenty (20) to ten (10) next year. I'm really concerned about that. What can be done?
Because you know I'm on this thing about that boombox. We just spent$1.2 million dollars on the
boombox. We need to be able to put our kids to work and give them an opportunity to learn the
soft skills. Punching in on time, doing the things that need to be done. I took a picture with the
boombox the other day because it's a joke to me but there are some disparities that I really want to
see some answers on. The weight equipment at the King Center is used and it was given from the
O'Brien Center to the King Center. At the O'Brien, they got new equipment. So why doesn't the
King Center get new equipment? Then the old equipment given to the O'Brien Center. Why is it
always in the reverse? These are some of the questions that are asked in the community and it's
about being intentional. I like hearing what I hear about the Morris and Civic and the things going
on in the Century Center,like the zip line. There's a lot of good things going on,but I'm asking for
more intentionality when it comes to these centers in our neighborhoods. Thank you.
Mark Piasecki, 101 N. Conestoga Lane, stated, I have a couple questions. I was wondering if Mr.
Perri has budgeted for the cost of liability for Howard Park? Specifically, the ice ribbon and the
play area. I bring that up because I noticed the City of Spokane opened up ice ribbon in December
of 2017. I think first(1st)day they had fifty-seven(57)injuries and one(1)death on that ice ribbon.
It had some elevation changes like they have here at Howard Park. In Chicago, they've had many
injuries in their play area near the ice ribbon. So many injuries that law firms had I think online
just told people to join the lawsuit against the City. It seems to be a liability magnet.The ice ribbon
in the play areas, so I think we ought to think about how we're going to protect the City and
taxpayers against an onslaught of lawsuits as a result of that. It is ice skating up and down and a
change in elevation. To me, it sounds like a very risky thing to do, unless you're a very good ice
skater. So,I think we should at least review what the costs will be to the City for this park. Secondly
in June Mr. Perri said at a Park Board meeting that the Park space is at a$700,000 deficit for 2020,
but I couldn't reconcile that with the numbers that were presented. I haven't seen the presentation.
It was hard for me to read some of the numbers. I couldn't reconcile that the $700,000 deficit he
mentioned in June at the Park Board meeting with what he said today. So, I agree, I think that it is
a little too late to talk about the expenses we're lavishing on parks. It's a little too late with the bond
issue. The money's spent. The bonds have been issued and the money's there. I think the only way
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is to make sure that money is wisely and efficiently spent, and programs are evaluated to see
whether or not they're effective. I hope in the long run that the cost of these new parks to maintain
them is not going to be exorbitant. I hope we're not going to regret the projects we've undertaken.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Thank you.
Committee Chair White gave the floor back to the presenters.
Mr.Perri replied,Yeah.We'll certainly do a good job on consolidating these in a thorough response
in writing. Just briefly, I mean we pride ourselves in the way we care for our facilities. John and
his team spend an exorbitant amount of resources ensuring these places are maintained to the best
degree possible. Can we always do better? Yes. Will we do better? Yes. And if there are things
that need to be addressed, John's probably one (1) of the hardest working guys in the City. His
team will take the call and they're on it immediately. I'm just going to spot through a couple of
these. In terms of programs being cut, summer programs and things like that,that's not in the plans
at all. The liability insurance, we just had our risk management team out there yesterday looking
and inspecting Howard Park and the process. We're doing everything we can to make sure all
standards are being met. I know the City itself is insured, but you can learn from other places and
whatnot. Even putting up a swing is inherently risky. But the fact of matter is I think we followed
all best practices and we're going to have a safe and enjoyable experience for our community. The
$700,000 deficit I mentioned, those were the projections we had at the time for the reduction in
property tax revenue.That has since been reevaluated and it's down to the$340,000 that I reported
today. You asked me to address the chandelier issue. That was entirely reimbursed by Broadway
Theater League. That was not paid for by tax dollars. That was paid for by that promoter. No
indication at all that that had anything to do as structural. The pieces that fell were decorative,
ninety-eight (98) year old decorative pieces. Nothing to do with the other. Plenty of other things
to talk about in terms of how we prioritize projects and spending and how we're spending things
down in terms of the capital spending and otherwise, happy to address those as they come.
Committee Chair White stated, I want to also say that most of you are aware that this Council,we
have and will continue to place high emphasis on the quality of life within our neighborhoods. So,
as we look at all the presentations,that becomes our top priority of course. But,we also are looking
at it from a financial perspective. As we continue with our budget hearings, we'll continue to look
at those areas as well as to look at ensuring that we live within our means. Thank you so much for
your presentation. Thank you department heads and staff for being here and the Council Members.
With no further business,Committee Chair White adjourned the Personnel and Finance Committee
meeting at 6:57 PM.
Respec 1 submitted,,
Kare White, Committee Chair
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