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SOUTH BEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
County -City Building Room 1200
227 West Jefferson Boulevard
South Bend, Indiana 46601
COMMISSIONER'S REGULAR MEETING
Friday, March 3, 1978 10:00 A. M.
PRESIDING OFFICER: Donald A. Wiggins, Vice President
Donald A. Wiggins, Vice President
A. Peter Donaldson, Secretary
Lloyd Robinson, Sr., Member
Kevin J. Butler
ia: Lester Howard, Photographer, WNDU -TV
Dave Anderson, Reporter, WNDU -TV
Ms. Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune Reporter
Larry Ford, Reporter, WSJV -TV
Mike Newman, Photographer, WSJV -TV
Commu ity Development
Sta f:
Edward F. Soltesz
Beverly Fisher
Kathy Baumgartner
Ken Schaller
Richard Pfeiffer
James Harcus
LPA Staff: C. Wayne Brownell
Marc Brammer
Mrs. Gertrude E. Barth
Mrs. Jane A. Zimmerman
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
On mo ion by Mr. Donaldson, seconded by Mr. Robinson and carried, the Minutes
of th Regular Meeting of February 17, 1978, were approved as mailed.
3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
On moltion by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried, the claims
were pproved as submitted, and were allowed and ordered to be paid --
totalling $21,552.98. The authorized claims are:
Redevelop *nt Commission Meeting
Friday, M rch 3, 1978
3. APPRO AL OF CLAIMS (CONT'D)
REDEVELOPMENT REVOLVING FUND
Payroll: 2 -11 -78 to 2 -24 -78
India a Bell Telephone Company
P.E.A. IND. R-66
Ralph D. Lauver
Redevelopment Revolving Fund
James E. Childs & Associates, Inc.
312 LOANS
Circle
Lumber Company
I & M
Electric Heating
Ray B
ckaj
Tom FM
Home Improvement Co.
TOTAL
$ 2,998.28
143.96
$ 3,142.24
$ 9,500.00
6,286.51
195.00
TOTAL $15,981.51
TOTAL
REDEV LOPMENT DISTRICT CAPITAL
Abstract Company of St. Joseph County, Inc.
Curly 's Sales and Service
URBAN REDEVELOPMENT FUND
Redevelopment Revolving Fund
TOTAL
$ 252.73
149.40
300.00
700.00
$ 1,402.13
$ 57.50
147.65
$ 205.15
$ 821.95
TOTAL $ 821.95
GRAND TOTAL
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$21,552.98
4. COMMUNICATIONS
Thede were no communications.
5. OLD BUSINESS
a.
C. Wayne Brownell: We received a letter from S. M. Dix Associates, Inc.,
directed to me, dated February 15, 1978, concerning the Indiana Bell
Telephone Company relocation claim. This letter was presented at the
last meeting of the Commission and we were directed by the Chair to bring
it up at this meeting. Mr. Butler has a copy of this letter for further
stu y... since the last meeting Mr. Banta, Vice President of S. M. Dix
has been here and I spent some time with him discussing, among other things,
this relocation claim of Indiana Bell. Mr. Banta indicated that he is
continuing to work on this claim since there was a portion of the claim
that was not documented. If it were documented, it might be a proper
claim- though in our opinion, it is doubtful that it can be documented
by the Telephone Company.
It is my suggestion that we put this item over to/the nekt.meeting at
which time I will bring you what information may have developed by that
time.
Mr. Wiggins: Are you all in agreement with this request? By consent
then we will Mr. Brownell's suggestion and put this item over to the
next Commission meeting.
6. NEW (BUSINESS
a. ommission consideration of a pro
f land and the execution of quit
title thereto, in connection with
aSalle Park Project, Indiana R -5
osed resolution for the Disposition
claim deeds for the transfer o
land to be disposed of in the
esolution #549 was drawn for the purpose of authorizing the sale
f Parcels No. 12 -8 and 12 -9, to Myrtle Baker for $720.00, in the
aSalle Park area, which is a part of Indiana Project R -57, which
as been closed out. We are still selling the land at appraised
rices. Mr. Brammer negotiated this sale with $72.00 paid down and
he balance due upon delivery of the deed.
Mr. iggins: Is this property adjacent to that they (Ms. Baker) now
owns.
Mr. rammer: This property is south of Ms. Baker's property - vacant
land actually which she is buying for garden space. It is buildable
land, therefore it sells for about $,05 a square foot.
Moti n was made by Mr. Robinson to approve Resolution #549 for the dis-
posft,ion of land, Parcels No. 12 -8 and 12 -9 of LaSalle Park Project
Indi na R -57, for $720.00, to Ms. Myrtle Baker. Motion was seconded
by M% Donaldson and carried.
Mr. Prownell noted at this point that there are some typographical
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6. NEWIBUSINESS, Continued-
errors in the agenda: the address of the Telephone Company should read
"202 S. Main Street ". Also the Harry Thompson 312 Loan was approved at
an Earlier meeting (February 3, 1978), therefore no action is necessary
at this time.
We ave a complete 312 Loan packet for Walter Mikolajewski, whose loan
application was approved and signed at the Commission meeting of October
7, 1977. The first application was lost by the HUD office however and
we are therefore obliged to submit a second application with supporting
paperwork. Mr. Brownell wished to call this matter to the attention of
the Commission, but it is an exact duplicate of the original with the
exc ption of the date.and we wish to know whether we need another
approval. Mr. Harcus has signed this application.
It was the concensus of the Commission that a second approval was not
nec scary.
b. Commission approval requested for Section 312 Loan Application for:
Ms. Sandra Desits
802 W. Calvert $3,550.00 18 /SOU- 2/21/1- 76 -77 -78
The address for Ms. Desits is listed as "North" Calvert on the
agenda.
Mr. /Ms. Robert (and Beatrice)
Taylor
1528 S. Kemble Street $4,200.00 18 /SOU- 2/22/1- 76 -77 -78
This address should read " Kemble" Street instead of " Remble" Street.
James Harcus: If any member of the Commission wishes to raise any
inquiries on these two applicants, Kathy Baumgartner is here, our
Project Director in charge of 312 Loans.
Mr. Brownell: I have a question about the amount on the Taylor appli-
cation, our agenda shows $4,200.00 for the amount, the letter shows
$4,350.00. Which is correct?
Kathy Baumgartner: The amount is $4,350.00..what happened is that a
contractor cancelled his bid on a particular item in the contract and
we had to find another contractor, as a result there was an increase
in the contract price..it should read "$4,350.00 ".
Mr. Brownell: The letter reads 13,543.00 ", is that correct for
the Desits application?
Kathy B.: No, that should be $3,550.00.
Mr. Brownell: You will correct these letters then before I sign the
loan applications?
Kathy B.: Yes, of course.
6. NEWIBUSINESS, Continued
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i provision for correction of noted errors, Mr. Donaldson moved for
oval of the 312 Loan Applications as set forth above. Motion was
)nded by Mr. Robinson and carried.
Request for Commission approval of Change Order #1 to Contract
SECD /PR /CS -8/61, with B. W. Electric Company, coverinq rehab work
r Vo_Yd'L. Tidwell at 1219 S. High Street.
This Change Order covers additions of $547.00 to install 9' of
base cabinets and 9' of formica counter top; replace Rams Horn
in the basement; and replace exterior water line, for $40.00
and $60.00 respectively. The additions total $647.00
The deletions under this Change Order are: a. replace 42" sink
base and b. install 42" counter top and backsplash, for $171.00
and $85.00 respectively, or a total of $256.00.
This Change Order resulted in a net increase of contract price of
$391.00.
Mr. Wiggins: I have a question - I note that the form of the change
ord ihree r has been changed and that the last page of the form has a series
of conditions (as follows):
a. The aforementioned change(s) and the work affected thereby,
are subject to all contract stipulations and covenants;
b. The rights of the Local Public Agency are not prejudiced, and
c. All claims against the Local Public Agency which are incidental
to or as a consequence of the aforementioned change(s) are satis-
fied.
Mr. Schaller: Those three (conditions) are in the same language we have
use in the past.
Mr.lWiggins: They are the same?
Ken�Schaller: Yes, the only change that was made is that the form was
red ne and the name of Keith Crighton was changed to James Harcus.
Mr. Robinson: We have never seen the form typed this way before, thats
why it is questionable.
Mr. Schaller: A similar form has been turned in with every change order,
Mr. Robinson. There has been no change in verbage on the Change Order
form. The only change that was made was to change the name of the Director
of the Bureau of Housing from Mr. Crighton to Mr. Harcus. That made it
necessary to retype the form.
Mr. Brownell: As retyped it does look entirely different but it has the
same language.
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6. NEWIBUSINESS, Continued-
Mr. Wiggins: This is just a case of typing, the form came up in a little
different format so it looks different but the wording is the same.
Mr. Brownell then read the memo from Mr. Richard Pfeiffer for recommen-
dation for approval of this Change Order.
Motion was made by Mr. Donaldson, seconded by Mr. Robinson and carried
for the approval of Change Order No. l to Rehab Contract SECD2 /PR /CS -8/61.
ThelChair recognized Mr. Robinson who made the following statement.
I an not sure if this is in the realm of our jurisdiction but it was
bro ght to my attention this past week that when the Redevelopment
Dep rtment and /or Bureau of Housing award contracts, they are supposed to
hav an established wage rate and this past year we went through quite a
ses ion with Mr. Harcus' predecessor when he wanted to lower the wage
sca e in this town..and at that time we unanimously agreed that the wage
sca a would remain as is so that everyone would get a fair and equitable
wage. This week I was made aware of the fact that for one particular
cra t, the wage rate is lower than it is supposed to be for the prevailing-!
rate, so I want to know, if I would make a motion, could we get the rate
the are using now to see if they need to be updated or whatever, so the
wor men or mechanics on the job are receiving the proper wage.
Mr. Brownell: I should think we could get that by simple request, can't
we r. Harcus?
Mr. Harcus: I would think so, we can bring in the package and give you
copies from them, also we are in contact with HUD since you have notified
us I and we will find out what their position is on the prevailing wage
rate in South Bend.
Mr. Brownell: We talked about this before the meeting, normally when the
wage rates are changed they are published and we can get them out of the
reg ster. In the past I went to Frank Alford for this, now Anita is
here and I would assume that she can help you.
Mr. Harcus: I sought recourse through Wayne on this and from Wayne's
counsel, 1 am going to the Federal Register that is upstairs on the 14th
floor and research it myself. I am also calling Eleanor Granger in Indian -
apo is HUD office, so that we can apply the prevailing wage rates as they
app 'y in South Bend.
Mr. Brownell: I think it is just a matter that they weren't aware that
the a was a change and if there is one in the register, they certainly
wil pick it up.
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Robinson: OK, then we will have those wage rates at the next meeting?
Brownell: You will have them before the next meeting, how soon Jim?
Harcus: As soon as Eleanor responds and I am able to find this in the
ster, I will work it through as expeditiously as I can.
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Mr. Brownell: If you will bring it to me, I will call Robbie and tell
him it is available.
The Chair requested that Mr. Brownell take care of the matter and report
back at the next meeting.
7. PROGRESS REPORTS
Mr. Brownell: I have no written reports but I wished to mention that after
I was advised by our attorneys that there is no stay order in effect, at
the time the court turned down this last motion, I called S. M. Dix in
Gra d Rapids and asked Mr. Banta to come to South Bend and start his
fixture appraisals. He has been working on them yesterday and today,
getting some of the buildings downtown, talking with the people who are
occ pying them, looking at the fixtures and determining what fixtures
there are that are affixed to the real estate and also taking a look at
the places for relocation benefits at the same time. He will go back to
Gra d Rapids tonite (March 3) and then hopefully next week we will have
eit er Mr. Banta or Mr. Berry back to continue this work.
Mr. Dave Anderson: I have two questions, first, have the land appraisals
beer completed and ....
Mr. Brownell: No, they're not.
Mr. Butler: They had gotten pretty far along before the stay order but
the3 must now be finished.
Mr. Anderson: The fixture and land appraisals are an ongoing process now
until they are finished, when do you believe they will be done?
Mr. Brownell: I would think within the next 60 to 90 days.
Mr. Anderson: My second question, one that Mr. Chapleau could not really
answer to my satisfaction and that is: this case is going downstate and
whether it goes to the Appellate or Supreme Court, it is dependent upon
whether or not the Redevelopment Department is granted a speedy hearing.
However, Mr. Chapleau believes that there will be no condemnation suits
or cemolition, prior to the appellate ruling, is that correct?
Mr. Brownell: If he told you that, it is true because he's the attorney
and we are being advised by him. We don't decide those things ourselves.
The are decided by the counsel.
Mr. Butler: I haven't discussed it with Ed yet but that, of course, is a
decision that will have to be made..how far we are going to go..
Mr. Anderson: So there is a possibility that condemnation suits could be
fil d prior to the appellate ruling?
Mr.lButler: As a legal matter, yes.
Jeanne Derbeck: Even if there is a stay?
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7. PRO9RESS REPORTS, Continued-
Mr.lButler: No, not if there is a stay.
Ms. Derbeck: Would you anticipate having to condemn many of the buildings?
You won't have a condemnation suit unless the owner is not willing to
sell at your (offering) price, isn't that right? As long as they are willing
to see, you don't need to get into a condemnation suit. So as it looks
now, are you anticipating any condemnations?
Mr. Brownell: I don't think so.
Mr. Butler: We haven't really had any contact with the owners and until
we o that, we won't know. First of all, we have to have the appraisals,
we have to know what figures the appraisers come up with before we can talk
to the owners about price and price has always been a problem in any
project area where the Department has proceeded with acquisition. Some
of 1hese property owners feel the appraisal figures we obtain are not
sufficient to compensate and are unwilling to enter into a simple agree-
ment to sell, therefore it is necessary then to file the condemnation
action, basically to let the court determine what the damages, or the
value of the property actually is.
Ms. Derbeck: Outside of what Ms. Hawley and Ms. Berg are doing, your purchases
condemnation suits, etc. are with the owner(s) of the building, but the
merchant tenants (Ms. Berg and Ms. Hawley are examples) if they do not
care for your relocation price, or if they don't want to take it, I suppose
court suits can arise from that. Do they have anything to say - is there
any legal action they can take?
Mr. Butler: Yes, I think the action taken in the case of the Philadelphia
Restaurant is an example.
Ms. Derbeck: Yes they had a suit regarding the price..but you still had legal
right to make them get out..since the owner had sold the building, right?
Mr. Butler: Yes. They can contest it, it does not automatically stop it.
Ms. Derbeck: When you say the land appraisals are not complete, exclusive
of fixtures are the appraisals of land complete except for Ms. Berg and Ms.
Hawley?
Mr. Brownell: No.
Mr. Butler: I think Jeanne as we had indicated, they are pretty far along
with the process but now Wayne has told them they can conclude that.
Mr. Brownell: Some of the parcels in this plan change are not involved
in the project - as you call it - you refer to the project on Michigan
Street as "the Project ",,,for example, the Wyman property which is vacant
land is in our plan change but not really part of that project.
Ms, Derbeck: So you don't have to worry about it, are you having it
appraised?
Mr. Prownell: Yes, that parcel has to be appraised. In addition, after
7. PROGRESS REPORTS, Continued
you have land appraised by two competent appraisers, you then have a re-
view appraiser come in and review the work of the other two and see if
they are accurate. The Review Appraiser corrects anything that needs
to be corrected and as a result of his work, we then bring the matter to
the Commission and they determine a price. The appraisers arrive at in-
dependent figures - then the reviewing appraiser reviews all the work and
recommends a selling price.
Ms. Derbeck: This stay order is not in effect now, but it did also stay
you from appraising such property as, say Wyman's, and other things which
wer not going to be torn down?
Mr. Brownell: Its very difficult to answer that question because so far
as I am concerned a stay order was never written, I have never seen it..
I don't know what it says, the court simply says I will stay...
Ms. Derbeck: Do you feel that it restricted you?
Mr. Brownell: We didn't take any chances on violating the Judge's order,
when he said "stay ", we stayed. That's the way it is..the only thing that
was mentioned that was a violation that they mentioned was that a committee
was set up by the city to select an architect. I don't think anything
els has been charged as a violation of any kind.
Ms. Derbeck: Have the appraisers been able to get into Ms. Berg's and Ms.
Haw ey's?
Mr. Brownell: Yes, both appraisers got in, they wouldn't let them go through
the place but they did get inside.
Mr. Anderson: I may be beating a dead horse but are you back on any kind
of lime table?
Mr. Brownell: At the present moment, we are 30 to 45 days behind our original
sch dule.
Mr. Anderson: It is not serious - or fatal to the project?
Mr. Butler: Not fatal but we were operating within a very close time frame
anyway and this simply makes it that much tighter.
Lary Ford: Since you are operating under a tight time table, are you at
liberty to disclose how much delay you have suffered?
Mr. Butler: Basically, we have a deadline of April of 1979 to have the
pro erty available and there are about 25 steps within the process as set
up in the time table—there is not much leeway at all and it's much tighter
thar any other project in the past.
Ms. Derbeck: At the moment you are not under a stay and are going ahead
wit the appraising..you say that would take another 30 - 60 days?
Mr. Brownell: No, I said that it could take up to 90 days, that of course
is an estimate.
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Ms. Derbeck: Then the next step would be to - after you have set a price -
to o and offer..
Mr. Brownell: I can't answer that at this moment Jeanne, again you are
in he legal side where I have to ask the attorneys when we can proceed.
Mr.
Ms.
Butler: That would be the next step.
Derbeck: Supposing there is no stay in effect?
Mr. Butler: Well, that is the next step in the process, I guess we are
goi g to have to decide when we get to that point whether we are going
to roceed to negotiate.
Ms. Derbeck: By April of 1979 - you have to own the property, you don't
hav to have the buildings demolished then?
Mr.lBrownell: ..and submit it for bids.
Ms. Derbeck: But you do not have to have it torn down? You have not de-
cid d yet I suppose - if there is no stay on the action - but the appeal
is rroceeding, I suppose then you would go ahead with pricing but would
you go ahead with purchases?
Mr. Butler: That is what we have not yet answered - or decided.
Ms. Derbeck: Do you have a rough estimate of what the appraisals will
cos ..the amount you will have to pay, the appraisers' fees that would be
lost if..
Mr. Brownell: There's $12,000 in fees for each of the two appraisers, S.M.
Dix contract is for $10,000 and we will have to pay the reviewing appraiser
also.
Ms. Derbeck: That's already $34,000 plus the reviewing appraiser.
Mr. Brownell: The reviewing appraiser will be paid in the neighborhood of
$100 per parcel, that would be about $2,000.
Ms. Derbeck: Then we are talking about over $35,000 in appraisers' fees
that would be down the tubes if...
Mr. Brownell: I suppose that would be true in one sense, however we would
use those same appraisals for the new resolution.
Ms. Derbeck: When are you going ;:to have that new resolution?
Mr. Brownell: Whenever we have to.
Mr. Derbeck: You don't think we need it now?
Mr. iggins: In effect, what he is saying is that if this project fails
and another project comes along, we have the whole thing to do over again.
We are not about to give up on South Bend, are you?
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7. PROGRESS REPORTS, Continued-
Ms.IDerbeck: No..
Mr. Butler: That was the argument with respect to our request for bond,
the e certainly is monetary damages in the event this project fails.
Ms :4erbeck: As far as the historic preservation thing with the Odd Fellows
Bui ding, that still looks pretty settled, you aren't worried about that?
Mr. Brownell: I can't answer "'yes'" to your question. The historic preser-
vat on has been through the state level and we have a very good, pleasant
rep rt back to the city, the federal step is still ahead of us.
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Derbeck: Well, they quite likely will go along..
Brownell: I hope you are right.
Wiggins: Any further comments from the press or the public?
Derbeck: Since Attorney.Woods has asked for the praecipe of transcript.
's the first step in going ahead isn't it?
Brownell: I am not aware that any praecipe has been filed or request
transcript.
Derbeck: He has a deadline to file doesn't he?
Brownell: There is a deadline, but.
Butler: And I am sure that they will wait until those last days, they will
this thing out..I don't know the dates on it Jeanne, but it is approaching.
Brownell: I have been having some conversation with possible reviewing
- aisers and I would like to be authorized to negotiate with a reviewing
�aiser, if that is satisfactory to the Commission.
Mr. Butler: This should be in the form of a motion—not for finalizing the
con ract but simply on negotiating, then the contract will come back to
you (the Commission) for approval.
Mr. Wiggins: In view of the discussion we have just had, it would appear
we be as expeditious as possible.
Motion was made by Mr. Donaldson, seconded by Mr. Robinson and carried, to
aut orize Mr. Brownell to negotiate with a reviewing appraiser and prepare
a c ntract for services to be presented to the Commission for approval.
8. NEXT MEETING
The next Commission Meeting will be held on Friday, March 17, 1978, at
10:40 A.M.
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9. ADJOURNMENT
The
meeting was adjourned at 10:41 A,M.
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