HomeMy WebLinkAboutRM 05-06-77SOUTH BEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
May 6, 1P77
10:00 a. .
Presidin_ Officer: F. Jay Nimtz, President
1. ROLLI CALL
1200 County -City Building
217 West Jefferson Blvd.
South Bend, IN 46601
Commissioners
Mr.
F. Jay Nimtz, President
Present
Mr.
Mr.
Donald A. Wiggins, Vice President
Robert J. Cira, Assistant Secretary
Mr.
Lloyd E. Robinson, Sr., Member
Leqal
Counsel
Mr.
Mr.
Kevin J. Butler
George Patton
News
Media
Mr.
Ms.
Dave Anderson, WNDU Reporter
Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune
Mr.
Les Howard, WNW Photographer
Others
Present
Ms.:Janet
S. Allen
Com unity Development
Sta f
Mr. Keith Crighton
Mr. John E. Davis
Mr. James Johnson
Mr. Richard E. Pfeifer
Mr. Ken Schaller
LPA Staff Mr. C. Wayne Brownell
Ms. Gertrude Barth
Mr. Marc Brammer
Ms. Sue Ragland
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
On otion by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and carried, the
Min tes of the Regular Meeting of April 15, 1977 were approved as
mailed.
3. APPOOVAL OF CLAIMS
On otion by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Robinson and carried,
the claims in the amount of $14,719.10 were approved as submitted
and ere allowed and ordered to be paid.
Lis of claims approved this date as follows:
MINUTES OF
4 -15 -77
APPROVED
CLAIMS
APPROVED --
$14,719.10
3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS (Continued)
PROJECT EXPENDITURE ACCOUNT, INDIANA R -66
Abstract & Title Corp.
Abstract Co. of St. Joseph County
South Bend Tribune
Clyde E. Williams & Associates
Knepp Studio, Inc.
S. Bend Exterminating Co.
George A. Wing
O'Neal Trucking Co.
Total
BUREAU OF HOUSING #312 LOAN
Midwest Alunimum Siding Co. -
Jovice Meader
Total
BUREAU OF HOUSING - FEDERAL ASSISTANCE GRANT
Ted ombs, Inc. - Contract #16
OF
S.
Total
DCIICIM nDMChIT nTCTDTrT f ADTTAI Gllnln
nd Exterminating Co.
REDEVELOPMENT REVOLVING FUND
Total
Payroll: April 9 through April 22, 1977
Kevin J. Butler
Business Systems
Business Systems
Credit Bureau of S. Bend - Mishawaka
Comet Car Wash
Hammes N.D. Book Store
Indiana & Michigan Electric Co.
I.B.M. Corp.
Maki lski Art Shop
Postmaster
Stan & Ted's Lawnmower Shop
Xerox Corp.
Amoco Oil Co.
Total
GRAND TOTAL
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$ 588.00
72.50
9.34
424.09
110.00
30.00
500.00
6,767.59
$ 8,501.52
$ 2,068.00
$ 2,068.00
$ 580.20
$ 580.20
$ 30.00
$ 30.00
$ 2,875.78
200.00
17.91
32.60
5.00
4.80
4.63
7.23
279.36
18.00
6.92
33.05
1.12
52.98
$ 3,539.38
$14,719.10
4. COMMONICATIONS
a. Letter dated April 19, 1977 signed by Michael H. Setzer of
rans o, re: public transportation plans in connection with
the proposed mini -mall. Mr. Brownell indicated that this letter
is quite long, and that the writer has indicated he would like
to have us consider his letter. Perhaps writing him in return,
to arrange a meeting so that matters can be discussed between
our commission and the board in charge of the transportation
function. Mr. Brownell suggested that the commission give some
direction, if they wish CWB to write Mr. Setzer, and tell him
anything the commission might want him to think about that
hasn't been mentioned here, preparatory to getting together and
talking about it.
I�
c.
he Chair: Let's talk about this informally. It has been my
nderstanding that this is one plan that has been recommended.
t is not our plan, but it is a recommended plan. We have
aken no official action on it and I think our attitude should
e that we would be pleased, either as a commission, or as
ndividuals, to sit down and to discuss their interest, desires,
roblems, suggestions, etc.
r. Brownell: The other thing that brings this up is that the
us company's lease is to run out in June, and we need to give
ttention to this shortly, probably at the next meeting.
he Chair directed that this letter be received and placed on
ile, and that the director reply to Mr. Setzer in the tenor
hat had been discussed.
etter dated April 21, 1977 from Lloyd S. Taylor, Vice President
t. Joseph Bank & Trust Co., re: inspection of the Whitcomb &
Keller Building and Certificate of Completion furnished to the
(bank.
r. Brownell: I have arranged with our architect to inspect
he building on Tuesday (May 9) and have arranged with Mr.
aylor for one of their people to meet the architect and take
im through the building. This way he can make this inspection
reliminary to having a report come to the commission. If that
s satisfactory, you could approve the certificate of completion.
e Chair directed that this letter be received and placed on file.
etter from Patrick McMahon, Director of Public Works, dated
pril 22, 1977, re: Karl King Towers; 600 E. Monroe St.,
outh Bend, IN, FHA Project No. 073- 35217- PM -L8. C. Wayne
rownell read Mr. McMahon's directive noting that "sanitary
ewers and city water are now available at the above referenced
ite and the project shall be allowed to hook up to said
acilities" etc. He also noted that our plan requires Re-
evelopment to build the sidewalks, but "we can't do that for
robably a year until they get that building finished."
it directed this letter be received and placed on file.
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LETTER RE:
MINI -MALL
TRANSPORTA-
TION PLANS
FROM M.
SETZER OF
TRANSPO
LETTER RE:
INSPECTION
OF WHITCOMB
& KELLER
BLDG. &
CERT. OF
COMPLETION
FROM L.
TAYLOR
LETTER RE:
KARL KING
TOWERS FROM
P. McMAHON
4. COMMUNICATIONS
(Continued)
d.
etter dated April 28, 1977 from Thomas P. O'Malley, Attorney LETTER RE
dvisor HUD Area Office, re: Karl King Towers -- approval of HUD.APPROVAL
onsors of the Project. C. Wayne Brownell read this letter OF.KARL KING
and explained that we needed such a letter because the developers PROJECT
for this had not been approved up until this time by HUD. DEVELOPERS
he Chair indicated that this again is one of the HUD regulations
hich requires a lot of paper work as to their financial ability,
background, experience. There being no objections, it was
directed that this letter be received and placed on file.
e.
Letter dated May 4 , 1977 from Dr. George A. Wing concerning his ACCEPT DR.
resignation and termination of consulting contract with the WING'S
Redevelopment Commission. Mr. Brownell read this letter in RESIGNATION
its entirety. & TERMINATE
CONSULTING
The Chair: We are certainly going to miss Dr. Wing. The re- CONTRACT
lationship has been excellent between him, the Commission and 4 -30 -77
the Mayor, and we regret very much losing him. But, of course,
this is one of the opportunities that come to a gentleman who
has good background and qualifications -- he moves to larger
and lustier fields. We shall certainly miss him.
Mr. Brownell: I presume we should do more than just place this
on file shouldn't we?
Mr. Wiggins: I move we accept Dr. Wing's letter and concur in
his request for cancellation of his consulting contract, effective
April 30, 1977. Motion was seconded by Mr. Robinson and
carried.
5. OLD BUSINESS
a. Commission approval of changes to be made in General Conditions
for the Rehabilitation of Real Property as requested in Commis-
sion meeting of April 1, 1977 as it concerns
t t f h f i lieu of sure
con-
rac or o cas sum o money n ..
Brownell read the letter from Keith Crighton, and also an
attached letter from Attorney Ed Chapleau.
e
The Chair asked Mr. Crighton if he cared to add anything to
this reading, to which he replied that he did not, but he would
like to thank Attorney Chapleau for his cooperation in getting
this back to us right away and that "heldi.d a good job."
Kevin Butler was asked if he had any comments, and he replied
that he had reviewed it at Ed's request, and Mr. Butler also
stated that Mr. Chapleau did an excellent job.
Upon request by the Chair for a motion, Mr. Robinson moved for
approval of this change order, seconded by Mr. Cira and carried.
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CHANGES IN
GENERAL
CONDITIONS
FOR REHAB OF
REAL
PROPERTY RE
DEPOSIT BY
CONTRACTOR
OF CASH IN
LIEU OF
SURITY BOND
5. OLDIBUSINESS (Continued)
b. Mall drinking faucets replacement. C. Wayne Brownell suggested
that the Commission might be interested in hearing about this
since summer is coming up. Mr. Ward came to South Bend and met
with Jim Zakrocki of the Hickey Company, and they have taken the
drinking fountain off the Mall in front of what was the LaSalle
Hotel. They are going to furnish to us new parts for all five
drinking fountains. They found the difficulty to be with the
design of those parts, plus the fact that the bolts, or screws,
holding the casing to the concrete were not holding. As they
came loose, it was "like the motor mount on your car coming
loose." Nothing else fit, so they are going to replace all
the parts on all five drinking fountains, per a report from Mr.
Zakrocki.
r. Cira: What is the future then, if they have any more problems?
s it going to be easy to get parts so we don't have any more
roblems?
. Brownell: We don't know what the future is. We have been
ree years now fighting about this -- to get these fixed.
, I think we will get them fixed and, hopefully, they will
rk.
Ms. Derbeck: You say you are going to remove the fountain in
front of the LaSalle Hotel? Mr. Brownell replied that it has
already been removed, whereupon Ms. Derbeck asked "Will it be
replaced ?"
The Chair: They have taken it apart to see what the difficulty
is. . .
Mr. Brownell: I am reporting it because I didn't want anyone
to think it had been stolen.
The Chair: Robert, actually this is a board of public works
responsibility and jurisdiction, but we have found out what the
difficulty is and the contractor is willing to go ahead and do
this, and we said, "go ahead and do it."
. Derbeck: Would it be under warranty?
Mr. Brownell: Yes, it is under warranty. We don't have to pay
for it.
Chair: Ok, that's good news. Proceed.
6. NEWIBUSINESS
REPLACEMENT
OF FIVE
DRINKING
FOUNTAINS ON
THE MALL
a. Commission approval to eliminate Part II, General Conditions, ELIMINATION
Labor Standards Provisions of Contract for Rehabilitation of OF LABOR
Real Property, as outlined in letter from Mr. Keith Crighton STANDARDS
and letter from Legal Counsel. PROVISIONS
ON REHAB
TABLED TO
_5. 5/20/77
6. NEW IUSINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
W. Brownell read the letter from Mr. Crighton and also the
etter from Daniel B. Bowman, Director of Housing Production and
ortgage Credit Division, HUD to Mr. Morris Kaufman, Emerson
eighborhood Code Enforcement Office, Gary, Indiana. These
etters are regarding Davis -Bacon requirements for rehabilitation
ontractors involved in rehab of single - family detached homes
nd residential property for use of eight or less families.
eference was also made to a letter from Charles S. Leone,
eputy City Attorney of the City of South Bend. Mr. Brownell
hen asked Mr. Crighton if he would like to add to this infor-
ation, and Mr. Crighton replied in the affirmative.
!r. Crighton: Just briefly, a very important part of our com-
unity development program is the self - evaluative aspect of it.
n other words, we have the ability to change areas that have
roven to be inefficient or unnecessary. This proposal is part
f that self - evaluation process. I suppose the major points are
hat we will be able to realize a 15 -20% savings on each contract;
nd we should be able to further improve our production. We are
rocessing about two hundred applications now and it's very dif-
icult for us to get all of these processed and completed and
ave them contracted, if we are unable to have contractors bid.
n actual dollars taxpayer savings, on this budget alone, would
e about $83,000 this year. By eliminating the labor standards
rovision we should be able to realize that savings. In other
ords, that would be money we would be able to put back into the
ommunity. I realize that this may be viewed as a somewhat
rastic proposal, but I do. firmly believe it is a necessary one.
e have had a lot of probliems with contractors, as you know,
nd I believe the cash bond aspect will help, and I believe the
abor standards provision (elimination of) will also help sub -
tantially. The paper work has gotten increasingly more diffi-
ult, more complex, over the past year for contractors, and this
ill help them out quite a bit.
hair: The doctors tell me the same thing about filling out
apers for Medicare. They spend more time doing paper work than
hey do treating people. Does the Commission have any questions?
Ir. Robinson: Yes. I don't totally agree with that position.
[ think all you are going to do is open up Pandora's box and get
nore unqualified contractors when you do not have a provision
For protection in the Labor Acts and things like this. I don't
think what you are trying to achieve is going to benefit the
)eople in the community who are supposed to be getting the help.
Jhen you are talking about eight or ten family residents, I
igree. Now, at the same time, you are also talking about con -
;racts by block, so many houses to a block. To me, again, it
could be interpretation -- to me, this could be part of that 8
)r 10 families just because of the way you are issuing the con
;ract, in a block grant. Whenever you eliminate some provision,
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6. NEWIBUSINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
all you are doing is opening up the door to give these poor
people who are basically having enough problems anyway. . . all
they will get is a cheaper, shoddier job by people coming in
here. The cash bond I agree with -- but the rest of it, I think
you are just defeating the purpose of the cash bond and you are
not doing the people of the community a service.
Mr. Crighton: If I might respond to that Commissioner Robinson,
the HUD regulations under that Section 605 refers to the actual
dwellings being worked on, not the size of the contract. I
disagree insofar as we will be getting unreliable contractors.
I think that the cash bond and the new bid procedure will
essentially be the same as we have now -- we have had a re-
latively low contractor participation and I don't think it
would get much worse. I think that the labor standards provi-
sions . . we have been following them on a voluntary basis and
it is costing us quite a bit of money. I am making this pro-
posed change with the endorsement of the Department of Housing
and Urban Development and the National Association of Housing
and Redevelopment. They firmly agree that since our community
development funds are less and less every year, we have to make
them go further. We have to be careful about how we spend our
money. It is getting to be a very difficult problem.
Mr. Robinson: Ok, you said paper work -- Davis Bacon isn't that
much more paper work than what normal paper work is because of
HUD money. I don't necessarily always agree with HUD, I can
assure you, and to me, if you are going to open up the possibility
that you are going to get more people -- let's say contractors
that to me aren't as qualified as the larger type contractor --
then what you are going to do is eliminate that more reliable
type contractor of the community from even getting involved.
I thought that was the idea when you came in here before and
you were talking about using a block bid process so you could
get the more reliable, more reputable contractor, to bid on
these projects. I don't think you have given it enough time to
see if it is going to work because we haven't hardly instituted
the block process. They did once, but then they stopped, and
you went on an individual dwelling basis after that. I think we
ought to stop and not be pushed into something real quick, and
see how it is going to work on a block bid type thing, and see
what kind of contractors you get.to bid on this work. I am
interested more in seeing that the people of the community get
a better job instead of a lousier job.
Mr. Crighton: Well, we are too sir, but we are also interested
in terms of how far our money will go and if we can realize --
say a saving of 183,000 this year -- that is a rather substantial
saving.
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6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
Mr. Robinson: I understand, but if you are going to take the
money and put it in with someone not qualified really to do the
work, you might as well throw it out the window. I would
rather have them spend a little more money and get a qualified
job that is good for the inhabitant, than have a whole bunch of
jobs just because you want to scatter the money around. I
don't think that's the answer.
Mr. Crighton: The term "qualified contractor" is kind of an
arbitrary point to assume. We really can't say whether a con-
tractor is qualified or unqualified. If he's got a good record
and a good Dun & Brad, and he's able to provide us with hazard
insurance, he can bid on any of this work.
Chair: Apparently you've been getting some ripples and complaints
from contractors about the amount of paper work. Is that right?
Mr. Crighton: Yes. The Labor Standards Provisions requires
them to submit weekly and monthly reports and they have gotten
more complex. It is taking a lot of time and they have ob-
viously been passing costs on to us.
Chair: What are these reports, what do they consist of?
Mr. Crighton: They are primarily manpower utilization reports
which they submit to the Equal Employment Officer, Mr. Alford
(upstairs). This is a requirement under Section 8 of Revenue
Sharing, but it is not a requirement under Community Develop -
ment. The fact is, I suppose a very important aspect of this would
be that, (I believe it-was February 17 of this year) seven unions
signed an agreement with the National Association of Housing
and Redevelopment officials to work at rates less than the pre-
vailing wage rate under Section 8 housing. Section 8 is re-
quired, keep that in mind, to use prevailing wage rates, but
because of the problems they have had with construction, the
unions negotiated with NAHRO and they did reach an agreement.
I believe as of two days ago, six of the seven agreements were
signed. What it will mean is that they are reducing the rate
by 15 -20% in Section 8 housing. All the major unions were in-
volved.
Mr. Wiggins: Davis -Bacon establishes the wage rate per hour
that is paid to the various trades, is that right?
Mr. Crighton: Right, as far as prevailing rates are concerned,
yes.
Mr. Wiggins: Well, it establishes what the prevailing rates are.
Mr. Robinson: On a federally funded project, right.
6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
Mr. Wiggins: How big an area does this cover -- and how do these
rates compare with the . . . or, how are they obtained? Is this
an average of what is being paid in the area?
Mr. Robinson: Not an average, it is a survey conducted by the
Division of Labor. There is also a survey conducted by HUD and
we just got through having one of those surveys here on multi-
family dwelling and the residential field here. After extensive
research and a heck of a lot of leg work by a few of us, we
proved that at that time, HUD came in here and we got a fast
shuffle and we proved we were doing the majority of the work.
Evidently since we proved it and got the Davis -Bacon rates es-
tablished again - prevailing in our area and St. Joseph County,
to me they are now trying to come back at us again from another
angle. You bet I'm against it, because I represent a lot of
people that for years and years and years have fought like crazy
to get rates up so they could enjoy a standard of living to be
equal to the average citizen in the community, and now they are
trying to do something else and I am against it, period. I
realize maybe you're not supposed to show partiality in your
job, but we are all human and I sure do. Ok?
The Chair recognized Keith Crighton who wished to respond to
the above.
Mr. Crighton: We are not attempting to effect multi - family con-
struction or rehab, we are not attempting to effect construction
of new units. The fact is, this is the only section in all the
federally - funded programs in which prevailing rates do not apply.
This would be the rehab of single family units. It does not
amount to . . . for this year my budget will amount to about
$450,000 in this area that will be affected. This is hardly a
substantial portion of the construction that goes on in this
area. Our participation of organized labor in our contracts
has been between 25 -30% in the past six years, whether we had a
prevailing rate or not. It made no difference, we had organized
labor in our programs. Many of our sub - contractors have used
organized labor, but we have never had an increase or decrease
whether we use the prevailing rate or not.
Mr. Wiggins: How would this operate in respect to Mr. Alford's
office? Would he be out of the picture in terms of this type
contract Keith?
Mr. Crighton: Only in part Commissioner. We would still retain
the affirmative action monitoring, employment standards, working
conditions, and that sort of thing. It is the money end of it
that we are primarily concerned with here. It will reduce the
contractor paper work by about 50 %.
Mr. Butler: Keith, when is the other program, the block bidding
by individuals for each item, when is that going to start?
6. NEWIBUSINESS (Continued)
a.
(Continued)
Mr. Crighton: Ken has some houses accumulated and we are in the
process of changing our contract form and we should be ad-
vertising our first contract in May.
Mr. Butler: Have -you had discussion with the various trades --
the sub, people who are traditionally sub - contractors?
Mr. Crighton: Yes, I have talked with two representatives from
each area and they are the ones who actually brought their con-
cerns to me. The paper work is getting worse -- before we had
quite a bit, but as the year goes on, there was more and more
reporting forms that had to be filled out and it is just getting
to be quite a burden on them. Where we had agreed originally to
voluntarily use labor standards provisions, we knew we weren't
required to do it when we first started community development,
but it was with the hope of attracting more contractors, and it
has not worked.
Mr. Butler: Do you have any idea what is behind the policy .
determination to eliminate basically single family or anything
less:than . . .
r. Crighton: From what the Department of Housing and Urban
evelopment has told me, I have talked with Fritz Paffenbach
nd Eleanor Granger and other representatives down there --
hat single family rehab (this is rehab, not construction) is
. . with continuous reduction of community development funds,
hey are more or less giving their tacit endorsement to dropping
abor standards provisions. Most, I would say 99%, of the cities
n the country who are using community development funds for
ehab are not using labor standards provisions at the present
ime.
r. Butler: The Davis -Bacon has never been a requirement for
he single family rehab, is that correct?
r. Crighton: It had been a requirement under Revenue Sharing,
of so much because of the type units being worked on, but be-
ause of the source of the funds. Revenue sharing had the
haracteristic of becoming city funds once they were transferred.
here are no regulations as far as revenue sharing is con -
erned even related to housing that was due to the nature
f the funds.
r. Butler: The basic policy is not to increase the competitive
spect other than as that might affect the cost. The primary
eason is to bring costs down?
r. Crighton: To bring costs down and to spread our dwindling
ccumulation further.
.hair: To try to make the money go further.
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6. NEW IBUSINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
Mr. Crighton: If we can do this, we will be able to have $83,000
(18.5 %) -- that's an approximation, obviously -- that we can put
into more homes. We're talking about saving the taxpayers'
money.
Mr. Robinson: Who are the taxpayers, Mr. Crighton?
Mr. Crighton: We are, sir.
Mr. Robinson: Ok, you bet!
Mr. Crighton: I like to save myself as much money as possible.
Mr. Robinson: I don't. Not when you are beating the poor guy
down and making his wage scale and his standard of living lesser
and lesser. I'm against it.
Ms. Derbeck: Could I ask a question? The main thing at issue
here is basically that contractors may hire people at a lower
age scale?
Mr. Robinson: That's right. The basic issue is that now we
have a wage scale established that the people can have a decent
living standard for them and their families, and now we are
trying to reduce it. You know we are using a lot of tax dollars
by all of us who pay taxes, and to me you are supposed to be
improving the quality of life instead of lessening it
Ms. Derbeck: Can they reduce it to any amount the contractor
wants to? I mean, there is no minimum there?
Mr. Robinson: Sure.
Ms. Derbeck: If he can get someone to work for a dollar an hour,
he can?
Mr. Robinson: That is correct.
Mr. Butler: Fair labor standards is the only thing that would
apply, basically, that would be the only thing that would apply?
Mr. Robinson: That is correct.
Chair: Woudln't the minimum wage apply?
Mr. Butler: The fair labor standards is the only thing that
would affect it.
Ms. Derbeck: Why would that cut down paper work?
Mr. Wiggins: There wouldn't be the required reporting under
Davis - Bacon. -- how much of a break you would get. Let's assume
the contractor paid the same wages and eliminated the reporting,
how much of a saving do you suppose that would be in the contract
price?
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6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
Mr. Robinson: Well, you don't know. You can assume that a lot
of it would go in the pocket and they are still cheating the
guys that are working.
Mr. Cira: I don't think that anyone who works for a contractor
though, Lloyd, is going to work for a dollar, or two or three an
hour.
Mr. Robinson: Bob, you are going to get people who are working
in a plant. They already have a steady wage coming in from
one entity and then they are going to be going out here for
hunting money, you know, other things -- and they are beating
the guy who doesn't have a job out of a job -- the so- called
"Moonlighting."
Ms. Allen: Then he has a better standard of living.
Mr. Robinson: Yes, the moonlighter does, but he is cheating the
poor guy who doesn't have a job to start with Ms. Allen -- out
of a job.
Ms. Allen: But if that man was good, it seems to me he ought
to have a job.
Mr. Cira: I really and truly don't agree with you Lloyd. I
don't totally agree with you.
Mr. Robinson: Would you want someone working on your home who
is qualified or would you rather have one they pick up off the
street because he's cheap?
Ms. Allen: There are quite a few men who are qualified and
haven't been able to find jobs, and if they could spread this
out a little bit more and get more done .
Mr. Robinson: Who establishes qualifications?
Ms. Allen: I would think the Department of Housing and Urban
Development.
Mr. Robinson: Huh! That's like the blind leading the blind, Ms.
Allen. How many of them are qualified craftsmen . ok. . .
Mr. Wiggins: I wonder if it would be possible to continue this
and I would like to see a little more breakdown -- the size of
the contractors, the number of employees they have, the qualifi-
cations of the employees, this sort of thing -- to determine, to
a degree, what has been happening now and on that we might be
able to base some kind of projection as to what Keith thinks will
happen. . . has a fair chance of happening. I don't think anyone
in this -- at least speaking for myself -- wants to establish any
kind of a program that is going to result in a lessening of
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6. NEW �USINESS (Continued)
a. (Continued)
eople's standards. I am sure no,one wants to be involved in a
rogram that could have as a result, a poor job kind of thing,
here the work that is being done for these people is of a poor
uality and won't hold up. We have had enough problems in that
rea with the wages we've paid and the contractors that have
een hired.
r. Cira: It's going to create more interest with the smaller
ontractor. It's been obvious that the larger contractor is not
nterested in doing this kind of work.
r. Wiggins: I don't know how people can be attracted to making
ess money. It just always seemed to go the other way around to
e. If you wanted to attract more people, you raised the ante --
ou didn't put the carrot further out ahead of the donkey. The
onkey is going to quit after awhile.
ir: What is the pleasure of the commission?
r. Butler: Could I ask another question of Keith? Have you
hecked into the possibility of - since this is not a requirement
n this area, the C. D. monies for the single family rehab --
ave you checked into the possibility of our voluntarily requiring
he prevailing wage rate to be paid by the contractors, and at
he same time, eliminating perhaps some of the (and I have no
dea what the reporting requirements are), but maybe returning
o the reporting system of a couple of years ago, if that was
dequate. Obviously you couldn't eliminate reporting altogether
ecause we have seen what occurs when there is no reporting, no
heck at all.
r. Wiggins: In that same light, Counselor, would it be possible
or us to establish the wage rate?
r. Butler: In effect, we would state the . . .
r. Wiggins: We would establish a minimum wage rate.
r. Butler: . . . that would correspond to what the commission
elt would be reasonable.
Ir. Wiggins: I certainly wouldn't want to be a part of getting
ome cut - throat competition going here.
hair: Hearing no motion, the Chair would direct that this be
laced on the table and that it be placed on the agenda for the
ext meeting . . . for further investigation and report.
b. ommission authorization to request consideration for setting
ip an Urban Redevelopment Fund, with letter to members of the
ommon Council. C. Wayne Brownell indicated that the letter
e prepared was to the Honorable Members of the Common Council,
A. al. He read the balance of the letter and the Chair asked
if this is part of the HUD regulations?
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AUTHORIZATION
GIVEN TO
REQUEST
SETTING UP
URBAN
REDEVELOPMENT
FUND
6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
b. (Continued)
C.
Mr. Brownell: No, this is simply a matter that I have dis-
covered that in the revolving fund there is $10,000. They
have been asking people on our staff to do work for the city
which we can't do and pay them with federal money. So, I
wanted them to authorize the reinstatement of the Urban Re-
development Fund so that.we can do this work for the city and
pay them out of local monies.
Chair: Kevin, is a motion necessary that we approve this action?
Mr. Butler: At the point that the commission wants to authorize
staff to involve themselves in this, you are going to need
action by the commission.
C. Wayne Brownell: I would like authorization today if I possibly
can get it.
Mr. Wiggins moved for authorization to request consideration for
setting up an Urban Redevelopment Fund, with letter to members
of the Common Council. Mr. Cira seconded and motion carried.
Change Order #1 to Rehabilitation Contract SECD /PR /CS -6/47, with
Slatile Roofing and Sheet Metal Company, in the Southeast Com-
munity Development Program for increase in contract amount of
65.00 and an amended contract total of $2,951.00. Mr.'Brownell:
stated that "it appears that they have an addition of $350.00 to
patch and waterproof 151 square feet on the southeast wall of the
basement and patch 25 square feet and waterproof the entire south-
west wall of 91 square feet. That is an addition of $350.00.
They want to delete kitchen screens, install one aluminum com-
bination storm window (deleted) $35.00 and foundation tuckpointing
6' x 2' at the northeast corner and tuckpoint 1 square foot
north window on west side, total of $250.00, the deletions total
$285.00 and the additions $350.00."
Mr. Wiggins moved for approval.
Mr. Robinson: Was that wall that was caving in repaired before
they put all the cosmetics on the front of it? It says here,
"during the winter the basement wall began to give way." I'm
asking if the wall was repaired before they put the cosmetics
on it?
Mr. Johnson: Yes. Evidently it had been repaired some years ago
. . . You know how sometimes when you have these old Michigan
basements, that are dug out and you leave the dirt there and
there had been a one -inch cap on it, the cap is just cracked.
r. Robinson: But was the problem solved whereby it won't do it
gain, that's what I'm asking.
. Johnson: Well, we think so. It has already been sealed and
are going to waterproof the whole thing.
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APPROVAL OF
CHANGE ORDER
NO. 1 TO
SECD /PR /CS-
6/47 FOR
INCREASE OF
$65.00.F,OR
CONTRACT
TOTAL $2,951.
6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
M
9
(Continued)
Mr. Cira seconded the motion made earlier by Mr. Wiggins to
approve Change Order #1 to Rehabilitation Contract SECD /PR /CS-
6/47, for an increase in contract amount of $65.00 resulting
in an amended contract total of $2,951.00. Motion carried.
Request for Commission authorization to award the following
contracts as bid, subject to legal counsel review, per recom-
mendation of the Advisory Board South:
CD2 /PR /CS -2/09 738 S. Phillipa St. $2,415.00 Siding Masters
CD2 /PR /CS -2/10 825 S. Jackson St. $4,078.00 "
CD2 /PR /CS -2/11 617 S. Jackson St. $3,255.00 "
CD2 /PR /CS -2/12 521 S. Phillipa St. $3,008.00
CD2 /PR /CS -2/13 2514 Huron St. $4,635.00 "
he Chair asked if the Commission could act "in toto" and was
old that it could do so. Mr. Brownell then proceeded to list
he various contracts involved and stated that attached to the
equest for approval is a list of bids and labor and materials
stimates. He pointed out that Charles Brown Maintenance Service
ook out papers, but did not bid.
. Wiggins: On the basis of labor and materials estimates, it
uld appear there were a couple of these they were doing pretty
11 on. The others are running very tight.
. Crighton: Mr. Chairman, I think Mr. Schaller has some infor-
tion that will shed some light on why those figures were higher.
COMMISSION
AUTHORIZATION
TO AWARD
CONTRACTS AS
BID TO
SIDING
MASTERS, INC.
Ir. Schaller: Contracts 11, 13 and 14 -- the bid amount is a
ittle bit higher than the estimate, due to the fact that the
ontractor has recommended that a water heater and furnace be re-
laced in each of those dwellings. We were unable to determine
hether or not they were to be replaced by the condition of those
tems and he has recommended replacing them. So, if you deduct
he replacement of the furnace and water heater on Contract 11,
he difference between the estimate and bid would be $410.00, and
he difference on contract 15 would be $506.00. The bid submitted
or contract 14 would be less than our labor and materials estimate.
. Wiggins: That makes a difference.
binson seconded, Imotlpn carried.
e. e uest for Commission authorization to
racts as bid, which were awarded to Ma
ecember 17, 1976, inasmuch as Madison
er contract documents, the Performance
I
ECD2 /PR /CS -6/51
ECD2 /PR /CS -6/52
ECD2 /PR /CS -7/55
ECD2 /PR /CS -7/57
ECD2 /PR /CS -7/58
ECD2 /PR /CS -7/59
I move the approval.
rescind
ison Bu
ui1ders
and Pay
1803 South Fellows St.
420 East Haney Ave.
213 East Calvert St.
1220 South Fellows St.
201 E. Pennsylvania Ave.
501 E. Keasey St.
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the followin
lders, Inc.,
has not prov
ent Bond as
$6,566.00
$7,369.00
$2,447.00
$7,910.00
$6,960.00
$7,329.00
Mr.
con- COMMISSION
on AUTHORIZATION
ded, TO RESCIND
CONTRACTS
AWARDED TO
MADISON
BUILDERS
ON 12/17/76
6. NEWIBUSINESS (Continued)
(Continued)
C. Wayne Brownell read the letter and indicated the contract
numbers involved.
The Chair asked Mr. Crighton for comments and Keith stated that
Madison Builders had failed to provide us with a bond in the
time required. Therefore, he had to forfiet the contract and
the bid bond.
Mr. Brownell: One point, Keith. If this is authorized by the
commission, this letter should be re- written since it says the
Redevelopment Commission "has been authorized" and actually the
commission will do the authorizing.
Chair: I concur with Mr. Brownell's comment concerning the
letter itself. This is just an aside, but do you have any idea
why they failed to do this -- are they too busy or what?
Mr. Crighton: Mr. Chairman, I really don't know. We have re-
peatedly requested that they get this bond in and they have
not done so.
Motion was made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Wiggins, and
carried, to approve action to rescind the above - listed contracts.
Ms. Allen: I just wondered why it took all these months to find
out he doesn't have his bond in.
Chair: Well, when you keep after somebody .
Ms. Allen: Don't you have a time limit for them and if they
don't do it by then, you're out -- rather than, say, four months
later another sink would go bad.
Chair: That's right. But, Janet, it is so hard to get people to
bid on some of these jobs, that when you do get a bidder that is
within reason, you are pleased to have them. These contractors
are busy and you have to keep after them to do things. I run
into this in the things I am interested in. You call a contractor
and . . . I called a plumber the other day -- he showed up ten
days later to fix up a stopped sink at the building. These are
the things that you have to put up with. Keith, do you want to
say anything further on that?
r. Crighton: Well, I think what Ms. Allen is expressing is a
oncern for the homeowner rather than anything else. Before we
e- advertise these houses they are going to be completely re-
nspected, to make sure that there isn't anything just to
ake sure that nothing else has gone wrong.
hair: We will have to go through the process on this . . .
Ir. Wiggins: However, he does forfeit his bid bond and this can
ielp defray some of the cost.
302
6. NEW OUSINESS (Continued)
e. (Continued)
f.
tii
s. Allen: Can't you possibly make some kind of a ruling that
hey have to submit it by a certain time or they automatically
re cancelled. . .
r. Wiggins: We do have, and an extension was granted and the
xtension has run out, and that is what we are in the process
f doing right now. He had his "day in court."
uest for Commi
ject to South
iew:
ion approval of bids for contract award,
nd Common Council approval and legal counsel
CD2 /PR /CS -1/03 417 S. Carlisle St. $7,811.00 Siding Masters
CD2 /PR /CS -2/14 705 S. Carlisle St. $6,625.00 " "
he Chair asked Keith if he had any comment to make on these. .
nd he did not. Mr. Schaller said that on contract 14 (the
ne where the contractor is recommending a new furnace and a
ew water heater), if you delete those two items from his bi`d,
is bid would be less than our estimate.
tion was made to approve these two contract awards by Mr.
ggins, seconded by Mr. Cira, and carried.
is item was deleted from the agenda.due to incomplete paper work.
h. Request for approval of Chang
tract SECD /PR /CS -3/25 with Ted
originally submitted in meetin
has been reviewed and approved
Mr. Brownell asked if this was
together and agree on . . .
Order #1 to Rehabilitation Cor
cCombs, Inc. second submittal
of April 15 and tabled, and
y Kevin J. Butler, attorney.
he case where they had to get
r. Butler: Yes, on these contracts Wayne, there were three
owes involved and I suggested to Keith and Ken.they have the
hecks made payable to the contractor and his subs, and when
ou check with the sub - contractors, find out what they were
wed. There was a controversy with respect to this particular
an. Our original specs were a bit ambiguous as to whether a
ub was to be replaced or whether it was simply the tub faucets
hat were to be replaced. I guess that would be the genesis of
he controversy.
. Wiggins: Now do you have the whole thing worked out?
otion was then made by Mr. Wiggins for approval of Change Order
1 to Rehab Contract SECD /PR /CS -3/25 with Ted McCombs, Inc.
otion was seconded by Mr. Robinson and carried.
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APPROVAL OF
CONTRACTS
AWARD TO
SIDING
MASTERS
APPROVAL OF
CHANGE ORDER
NO. 1 TO
SECD /PR /CS-
3/25
6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
i. Commission
approval
of the following bid for contract award,
APPROVAL
subject
to approvalby
Legal Counsel, per
recommendation of
OF NWCD #25
he Northwest Advisory Committee:
TO CHARLES
BROWN
Contract
#25 /NWCD
814 N. Sherman Ave.
$3,428.00 Chas. Brown
MAINTENANCE
Maintenance
Potion
was made by
Mr. Wiggins to approve the above bid for
contract
award. It
was seconded by Mr.
Robinson and carried.
j. Commission
approval
requested for the following bids for con-
APPROVAL OF
tract
award subject
to approval by the
South Bend Common Council
CONTRACT
and
Legal Counsel
Northwest Bureau of
Housing Director John
AWARD ON
avis' letter was attached).
#22, 23, 27,
24, AND
Contract
#22 /NWCD
738 N. Sherman Ave.
$6,383.00 Siding Master
FINALLY 26
Contract
#23 /NWCD
914 N. Brookfield St. $6,625.00 "
Contract
#27 /NWCD
1243 L.W.W.-
$6,343.00 "
Contract
#24 /NWCD
1104 N. Adams St.
$7,208.00 Chas. Brown
Contract
#26 /NWCD
920 N. Sherman Ave.
$6,500.00 " "
he above were the
lowest bids received for these contracts.
. Wiggins stated that there was something wrong with the figures
nce Siding Masters was listed as being $15 under Charles Brown
intenance, according to "this on No. 26. Do we have a reversal
re ?"
. Brownell: You show Charles Brown at $6500 and Siding Masters
$6,485.
air: Do you recommend we defer action on #26 -- we will delete
tion on #26 and place it on the agenda for the next meeting. **
at is the pleasure of the commission on the remaining four?
Notion was made by Mr. Wiggins, and seconded by Mr. Cira, to
approve contracts 22, 23, 27 and 24. Motion carried.
( ** Note this was cleared up later in the meeting. See portion
under item 6m.)
k. commission approval
or the following:
me
gerald Walsh
11128 E. Bowman St.
aul & Rebecca Morse
27 E. Bowman St.
ally Lake
117 W. Linden
sted for Section 312 Loan applications
Amount Loan Number
$7,750.00
$9,500.00
$6,500.00
18 /SOU- 1/13/1 -76 -77
18 /SOU- 1/12/1 -76 -77
18 /SOU- 2/14/1 -76 -77
APPROVAL OF
312 LOANS TO
G. WALSH AND
P. & R.
MORSE
6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
k. (Continued)
e Chair asked if this was just "pro forma" and received a
sitive response.
Mr. Crighton: Before you make a motion, I would like to ask the
commission to defer action on the last one, Sally Lake, until
he next commission meeting. At the time the agenda was prepared
on Wednesday we had hoped that one final document would be in.
In fact, we were promised it by this morning. It did in fact not
arrive, so actually we do not want commission approval until we
have the whole package.
tion was made by Mr. Wiggins and seconded by Mr. Cira to approve
ction 312 loan applications to Gerald Walsh and Paul & Rebecca
rse. Motion carried.
1. Commission approval requested for rejection of the following bids
or contract award, per recommendation of the Advisory Board
South, letter from Kenneth J. Schaller, Project Director, was
attached.
SECD2 /PR /CS -8/60 1513 Marietta St. $7,340.00 Siding Masters
SECD2 /PR /CS -8/62 415 E. Wenger St. & $7,626.00 "
1115 S. Fellows St.
SECD2 /PR /CS -8/63 1213 High St. $7,244.00 " "
S CD2 /PR /CS -1/07 430 -32 S. Olive St. $7,189.00
S CD2 /PR /CS -1/08 758 S. Phillipa St. $9,135.00 "
ove contracts are to be reviewed and re- advertised for bids as
S on as possible.
was pointed out that 415 E. Wenger St. and 1115 S. Fellows St.
the same house -- a duplex facing two different streets
. W. Brownell stated that the Advisory Board thought these bids
ere too high and recommended they be rejected, reviewed and re-
dvertised as soon as possible. Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins,
econded by Mr. Cira and carried to concur in the Advisory Board's
ecommendation.
m. Commission authorization to solicit bids for the Indiana R -66
Audit, January 1, 1975 through June 30, 1977, as required by
UD on verbal instructions from HUD Area representative. Fol-
lowing are the firms to be contacted for bids:
Peat Marwick Mitchell & Co.
Crowe Chizek & Co.
Price Waterhouse & Co.
Goodson -Tyler & Associates
Ernst & Ernst
John Dobson & Co.
)tion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and carried
authorize solicitation of bids for the audit.
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REJECTION
OF BIDS
BY SIDING
MASTERS
AUTHORIZATION
TO SOLICIT
BIDS FOR
R -66 AUDIT
1/1/75 THRU
6/30/77
6. NEW BUSINESS (Continued)
m. (Continued)
** Note: The Chair asked the Commission to back up to item 6.j., APPROVAL
Contract #26, which was tabled until the next meeting. This ON CONTRACT
actually represented a transposition of numbers in the contract AWARD ON
mount. Siding Master's bid was actually $6,845 rather than #26
$6,485.
tion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and carried
approve award of contract #26 /NWCD at 920 N. Sherman Ave.
Charles Brown Maintenance in the bid amount of $6,500.00.
n. Commission authorization to advertise for bids on Parcel 2 -6C
(only a part of this parcel to be advertised), Indiana R -66
enewal Area.
his concerns the west 52.38 feet of parcel 2 -6C. It is the land
in back of Sonneborns' Sporting Goods Store and they would like
to bid on the west 42.38 feet. There may be other bidders also.
Motion for approval to advertise was made by Mr. Wiggins,
s conded by Mr. Robinson and carried.
7. PROGRESS REPORTS
Mr. Brownell reported (if you haven't all read it in the paper) that
the Elderly Housing was closed on Parcel E and F. We received a
check in the amount of $133,610. This will be for 219 units. They
will break ground sometime within the next 30 days. It was reported
that the replacement cost for this project is about 6 million dollars
and the mortgage is $5,500,000, and construction costs over 4 112
million dollars. We have here a rendering -- this is on the corner
of Monroe and the river and, as you can see, it indicates the stories
high and the setting in which you are going to put it. We have one
obligation left -- when they finish this building, we will be obli-
gated to put in the sidewalk. We did not put it in because we felt
they would damage it during construction of the building. I don't
know when this will be completed, but down the road when they com-
plete the building, maybe a year from now or so, we will have that
oblig tion under site improvements to build a sidewalk.
Mr. Blutler: Is that on Monroe Street?
Mr. Brownell: Yes. I don't know if there is anything else about
this to tell you or not. I have to tell you that these attorneys
did an awful lot of work. They had papers and papers and papers
to sign, and we still have one agreement that they're working on in
connection with it.
Mr. Wliggins said he felt a big sigh of relief -- no questions.
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AUTHORIZATION
TO ADVERTISE
FOR BIDS ON
PART OF
PARCEL 2 -6C
CLOSING ON
PARCELS
6-1E & F
FOR KARL
KING TOWERS
7. PROGR
SS REPORTS (Continued)
The C
air made an announcement that we
have a letter from the Governor
GOVERNOR,
that
ie has signed Senate Bills 55 and
56, which we were interested
SIGNED
in concerning
the financing.
SENATE BILLS.
55 &56
Mr. Brownell:
Senate Bill 55 is incremental
financing and 56 is
the bill
to permit a definition of the
building.
8. NEXT
COMMISSION MEETING
NEXT COMM.
MEETING
There
being nothing further, the next
Commission meeting will be
5/20/77
held
on Friday, May 20, 1977 at 10:00
a.m.
9. ADJOURNMENT
There
being no further business before
the commission, motion was
made
by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira
and carried, to adjourn
at 11:20
a.m.
. Ra4ja& - -- Brownell , Executive D :ctor F. Jay NNtz,'Nresiaen
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