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HomeMy WebLinkAboutRM 12-17-76SOUTH BEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING Decembe 17, 1976 10:00 A.M. Presidi g Officer: F. Jay NTmtz President 1200 County -City Building 217 W. Jefferson Blvd. 1. ROLL CALL Commissioners Present Mr. F. Jay Nimtz, President Mr. Donald A. Wiggins, Vice President Mr. A. Peter Donaldson, Secretary Mr. Robert J. Cira, Assist. Secretary Le al Counsel Mr. Kevin J. Butler 0 Mr. George Patton Media Mr. J. Scott Brink, WNDU Reporter Mr. Terry O'Reilly, WNDU Photographer Mr. Johnethen White, WSBT Reporter s Present Mr. Morris Morrison, President South Bend Redevelopment Trustees Mr. Gene Evans, Exec. Sec., Civic Planning Assn. Mr. John Kagel, Downtown South Bend Council Mr. John V. Lindstaedt, Fair Tax Assn. Ms. Sheryl Overlan, Downtown South Bend Council -Co munity De elopment St ff LPA Staff Kenneth Schaller C. Wayne Brownell Gertrude E. Barth Edwin R. Bauer Sue Ragland 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES On motion by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried, MINUTES OF the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of December 3, 1976 were approved 12 -3 -76 as mailed. APPROVED 3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS On motion by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried, CLAIMS the claims were approved, as submitted, and were allowed and APPROVED ordered to be paid.... totalling $181,068.44. 3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS (Cont.) MERRY AVENUE PROJECT Mus ynski Insurance Agency, Inc. $ 121.00 Total $ 121.00 4 PROJECT EXPENDITURES ACCOUNT, INDIANA R -66 Red velopment Revolving Fund $ 7,541.03 Cly e E. Williams & Associates, Inc. 960.02 Cur y's Sales & Service 21.65 Dic aphone Corporation 518.70 Total $ 9,041.40 REDgVELOPMENT REVOLVING FUND Payroll: November 13, 1976 to November 26, 1976 $ 3,484.11 The Bobbs Merrill Co., Inc. 28.55 Credit Bureau of S. B.- Mishawaka 5.00 Dor thy Z. Deane - Petty Cash 73.80 Jam s R. Meehan & Associates 40.93 Mus ynski Insurance, Inc. 197.00 Pen (e-Dickens & Heeter, Inc. 105.00 Sch lling's Printing Co., Inc. 80.40 Vic or Comptometer Corporation 62.50 Nat onal Assn. of Housing & Redev. Officials 12.00 Amo o Oil Co. 60.25 Total $ 4,149.54 312 LOANS Walter Simpson, Contractor $ 7,286.50 Total $ 7,286.50 :LOPMENT BOND REDEMPTION Joseph Bank & Trust Company Total Grand Total $160,470.00 $160,470.00 $181,068.44 CLAIMS APPROVED Com ents by Mr. Morris Morrison, President of the South Bend Redevelopment Trustees. COMMENTS BY MR. MORRISON The Chair recognized Mr. Morris Morrison, President of the South Bend Redevelopment Trustees who made the following remarks: - 2 - 4. nts by Mr. Morrison: "T ank you Jay. The South Bend Redevelopment Trustees met on Friday D cember 3rd, 1976, for the purpose of appointing the Redevelopment C mmissioners and I am pleased to announce that we unanimously re- a pointed the present Commissioners, F. Jay Nimtz, Don Wiggins, A. P ter Donaldson, Robert Cira and Lloyd Robinson, for the year 1977. I want to congratulate them on their re- appointments." Mr. Nimtz thanked Mr. Morrison and said he presumed the salaries remain the same as for the present year. He indicated his appreciation and that of the other Commissioners for the honor and assured him they will all continue to try to do their best with the charge that was given them. At this point, Mr. Cira arrived at 10:07 A.M. When the Commissioners were asked for comments, Mr. Wiggins told the story Abe Lincoln used to tell about the guy who was ridden out of town on a rail after being tarred and feathered and when asked what he thought of the whole thing, said: "I think if it wasn't for the honor I would have rather walked ". M�. Brownell announced that the swearing in would come at the first m eting in January. Chair stated that by statute the next commission meeting will be sday, January 4, 1977 at 10 a.m., which is the annual organization ting of the Commissioners. M . Wiggins then asked if it would be appropriate to make a motion that WE conduct out regular order of business in a meeting following the o ganizational meeting so that we may accomplish both on the same day. T e Chair indicated it would be appropriate and Mr. Wiggins so moved. ..that the regular meeting of January 7, 1977 be moved to January 4, i mediately following the annual Re- organizational meeting of the C mmissioners. The motion was seconded by Mr. Cira and carried. 5. CORRESPONDENCE a. Letter dated December 7, 1976 from Patrick, Anderson and McDonald, Attorneys at Law, re Columbus Wood Preserving Company vs Nautilus Construction Company Claim of Sub - Contractor Materialman: C. Wayne Brownell read this letter and stated that it was his understanding that Mr. Batchelder is trying to work out a settlement with this company and as yet he has not heard from Mr. Donnelley about a joint meeting. a etter dated December 8, 1976 from the 104 South Main Joint Venture e Brick wall on east side of Odd Fellows Building: Mr. Brownell - 3 - NAUTILUS VS COLUMBUS WOO PRESERVING DISPUTE -R -66 BRICK WALL - ODD FELLOWS BLDG. 5. (b) Continued: re d this letter in full regarding the brick wall on the east side of the Odd Fellows Building which Mr. Donnelly indicates is a ha and due to bricks falling and the wall crumbling. Tha Chair asked if this should be referred to the City Engineer and Mr. Brownell indicated that as a matter of fact, he has Mr. Bauer and Mr. Bill Slabaugh working on this. When Mr. Wiggins asked for further details, Mr. Brownell stated that as he understand it, this was one of the early demolitions, there were six or seven buildings involved in this one contract - (Ed Bauer then handed Mr. Brownell a 3hotograph of the building and area prior to demolition). This letter concerns the one story party wall on the east side of the building and you obviously could not remove that wall as you would than be taking down part of the Odd Fellows Building. Mr. Wiggins stated that there certainly must be a precedent for handling this kind of situation since this isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened. He stated that it was his impression that where th wall is a part of the building and attached to the rest of it, it then becomes the responsibility of the building owner to face the thing off. Mrs Brownell said he was unable to answer to this question. Join Kagel: Pardon me Mr. Wiggins, I don't want to become involved in this thing but if you recall the National Bank is the one that diJ the Robertson's wall and the same thing applied to the Wyman's wall when they tore that building down. The Chair: This is the reason most lawyers tell their clients to not get involved in a party wall anymore. These were very common back in the early 1900's and in the 1800's but now, any lawyer who has had experience with the construction business and then later in the demo- lition business will tell his client to not get involved. It may sate you money when you put the building up but it causes you grief wh n the building comes down. What Don says is partially true, the su chapter a, b and c is that we, the Department of Redevelopment, ca sed the condition by taking down the building and it is a matter of whether we left a potential hazard there. The joint owner has the re ponsibility once the wall is placed in a good, proper safe condition, to continue to keep it that way. However, that is the question, did we leave it in a hazardous or semi - hazardous condition? Have I stated th law correctly Kevin? Mr Butler: "I think you are the expert on the party walls that were put up around the turn of the century'. Mr th Ch Brownell: I haven't heard of any difficulty with this wall over last several years that it has been in this same condition. The tir then asked Mr. Bauer for a recommendation. MIM 5.(b) cOntinued- Ed Bauer said that this work was done in 1971 and this was one of tha first parcels to be put up for resale - before the Superblock wa3 ever thought of - and the thinking was that any new construc- ti n would correct the condition of the party wall by building up against it. If I remember correctly, at that time it would have been five or six thousand dollars to dismantle that wall and reface it anJ I believe Mr. Ashenfelter, who was the Director at the time, felt that it was an unjustifiable cost. At todays prices, it is pr bably double that figure. Mr. Bauer also stated that they had ch cked out the wall and found no falling bricks that Mr. Donnelly re ers to. Undoubtedly in the last five or six years the wall has de eriorated somewhat, most exposed walls would have, Whether or no it becomes a real problem, we will have to determine that with th Engineering Department. Do Wiggins: Could that wall be sprayed with Gunite, faced over or so a such deal to tie it together? Mr Bauer: I believe it was at the time but that was in 1971, we'll ju t have to double -check the condition of the wall. Do Wiggins: Part of what I wanted to know is whether we paid the co tractor to do the job and it didn't get done. Mr Bauer: I've got a. meeting set for Monday morning with Mr. Sla- ba gh and we will review the entire demolition contract to determine if our responsibility was fully carried out. Mo ion was made by Don Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and carried, that It m 5(a) be received and placed on file and Item 5(b) be referred to st ff and the City Engineer for investigation and report. M6 Cira asked regarding Item 5(a), what was the problem? Wayne Brownell explained that the problem on that one is that if you look at the supporting documents you will find that it was called "No. 2" and they had ordered "No. 1 ", so Mr. Batchelder of Nautilus is trying to get that settled for around $11,000 and thought he had it settled but their attorney apparently does not agree. Do Wiggins: This is a fight between these parties and we are staying out of it. Mr no to Mr otl us th Brownell: We are staying out of it, I told Mr. Donnelly we are going to pay anybody until they get it settled, or we get an order do so. , Nimtz: I told Mr. Brownell that Mr. Batchelder talked to me the ier day and didn't mention this at all. He was happy and thanked for our indulgence and consideration of him and he did not mention Is subject so we will just stay out of it and see how they settle it. - 5 - 6. OLDI BUSINESS. a. Easement grant between Indiana & Michigan Electric Company and EASEMENT the parties of interest in the Block 6 development: The request GRANT -I & M for our participation in the easement grant by the St. Joseph BLOCK 6 River Bend Development Corporation was tabled in the November 19, 1976 meeting and referred to legal counsel. We have not yet deeded this property over to them. Mr. Butler stated that he has had preliminary discussions with Mr. Lloyd Taylor on both (a) and (b) under Old Business, (b) being their claim and request to the department for participation in costs to them for correcting what they claim is a condition that resulted from our involvement in the site improvements in that area. I would imagine said Mr. Butler that by the first or second meeting in January, 1977, we should have either resolved these matters or know that the River Bend-Development Corporation will be filing a formal claim against us. b. lRequest for Department of Redevelopment to make payment of $5,000. STORM to St. Joseph River Bend Development Corporation for the additional SEWER - BU work•to- be-done on the storm sewer in Block 6:Following the above 6 - ST. JOB explanation of Item 6(b) by Mr. Butler, Mr. Wiggins moved for a RIVER BEND continuance on both 6(a) and 6(b) with both items to be placed on DEVELOPMENT the agenda for a future January meeting. Motion was seconded by Mr. Donaldson. The Chair asked if there was any discussion, whereupon Mr. John Kagel said that Mr. Brownell had made a statement that he ( Kagel) did not quite catch and "I hope I misunderstood him You mentioned something abolit you have not deeded over to the St. Joseph River Bend Development Corporation certain property, are you referring to all of the property? The Chair responddd that Mr. Kagel's assumption is correct, they are taking the property down in parcels. We have deeded two parcels, that is al 1. Mr. Kagel: Is that where Whitcomb & Keller are presently building? Mr. Brownell: We have deeded the land where they are building and we have deeded the land for the branch bank and gotten paid for those two parcels. Mr. Kagel: How about the land for the new hotel and ... Chair: No, as they pay us, we deed it. Mr. Wiggins stated that "we don't deed the land until we get the money John ". Johii Kagel: In other words, you still own that then? Mr. Brownell: That's right. At his point, the Chair called for the vote and the motion carried. 7. NEWIBUSINESS. a. lPer recommendation of the Southeast Advisory Board, Commission author- 7. NEWIBUSINESS, Continued: iza ion is requested for award of contracts as follows, subject to legal counsel review and approval: Contract No. Address Bid Amount Contractor CS -�/53 1816 S. Carroll St. $2,445. CS -7/54 506 E. Broadway 4,400. Slatile Roofing & Sheet Metal Co., Inc. If CS- /55 213 E. Calvert 2,447. Madison Builders, Inc. Per bid tabulation these bids were the lowest and best submitted for the le contracts. CONTRACTS AWARDED SOUTHEAST CS- 7/53,54,55 Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and carried for the award of above contracts as bid, subject to legal counsel review and approval. b. Per recommendation of the Southeast Advisory Board, Commission CONTRACTS authorization is requested for award of contracts as follows, subject AWARDED to review and approval by the South Bend Common Council and legal SOUTHEAST counsel: CS- 6/45,46,51 CS -6/52, Contract No. Address Bid Amount Contractor CS- 7/57,58,59 CS-6/45 CS-6/46 CS-6/51 CS-6/52 CS-7/57 CS-7/58 CS- /59 626 East Dubail Ave. $7,050.00 Slatile Roofing & Sheet Metal Co., Inc. 1214 S. Carroll St. 7,678.00 Slatile Roofing & Sheet Metal Co., Inca 1803 S. Fellows St. 6,566.00 Madison Builders, Inc. 420 East Haney Ave. 7,369.00 Madison Builders, IHc. 1220 S. Fellows St. 7,910.00 Madison Builders, Inc. 201 E. Pennsylvania Ave. 6,960.00 Madison Builders, Inc. 501 E. Keasey St. 7,329.00 Madison Builders, Inc. Per bid tabulation, these bids were the lowest and best submitted for these con racts. Mot on was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried, for Commission approval of the above listed contracts, subject to review and approval by the South Bend Common Council and Legal Counsel. A discussion followed during which Mr. John Lindstaedt stated that he had a question concerning the fact that we are spending between sixty and seventy thousand dollars here and it seems that "some of these areas as I look down the line here are pretty well deteriorated..is this a ore shot deal to improve the whole block section or are we improving thi property for the neighbor's property valuation due to the fact there is ne house in this area that is deteriorating, therefore it reduces the val ation of the other properties?" - 7 - 7.(b) 0ntimed- NEW BUSINESS. Don Wiggins: Probably some of each John, actually these are owner - occiDied. Chair: It's the old story, you try to keep the neighborhood going and if you let it go completely down, everything goes down. I think Don has answered this a number of times through the years - that it's cheaper in reality to try to keep up the older places than to try to build a new one and as long as you can keep these houses going and keep people in them, you can keep the neighborhood going. Don Wiggins: Although this seems like a lot of money, it reflects the problems of our time and you also have to look at the replacement cost of new housing, which is astronomical these days. I guess the median price of new housing is now up around forty to fifty thousand dollars, which is ridiculous, but that's where it's at. Joh Lindstaedt: I seem to have a tendency, where I look at a block where sev ral houses are deteriorating, and see one of them being remodeled and the rest reaching that point... Don Wiggins: The chances are some of these others may be candidates for remodeling too but if you don't fix up the worst ones, that leans on the others to go down further. I don't think we have this thing really in hand nor do I know exactly how it can be handled but this is an approach and it does make sense. J. indstaedt: I agree with that, the only thing is - when you look at the whole block and there are some people who may own something in the neighborhood that is on the edge of deterioration that needs improving, this is a fragmented deal that concentrates on one section at a time. Don proc the livi are Our fact you the effe will new Chai beca Keas sump I wa saw much iggins: Your other alternative is to try to set up a clearance am in the neighborhood, wipe out all of these houses, then you have esponsibility of relocating all the people that are currently g in the houses and if you are going to put them in new housing, you alking about an awful lot more money than you are talking about here. inances dictate what is probably the cheapest way out. Plus the that I think it is to the advantage of the community. The only way re going to stop this "donut" deterioration bit where the center of ity goes to pot and everyone runs for the suburbs, is to find an tive way of transfer so the people will stay - so the neighborhood renew. This means you have to have a turnover, you have to have eople, young people coming into these established neighborhoods. r: Another thing, it is a voluntary program. They apply for this use they want to stay in that neighborhood. I was down in the Ohio - ey area last night and I was surprised, I hadn't been there since last er. There has been an improvement in the three or four months since s there - there were some burned out houses on Fellow Street but I Christmas lights in the windows on Ohio Street and things looked better than they did last summer. 91 ME 7.(b)NEW BUSINESS. continued: John Lindstaedt: I think one of the most profound statements I have heard on this situation in a long time was made by a fellow that I don't always agree with, but by young Mr. Parent, when he said he would like to see the deterioration work back into the inner city. So many people I have talked to, including some of the young people want to build new homes and I suggest instead of spending forty thousand dollars for a new home, get one of the old ones, spend five or six thousand dollars to remodel it and you have a much better place. Don Wiggins: One of the problems in this area is in financing and I thi k that needs a new look. Joh Lindstaedt: Red lining is one of the bad things about the entire sit ation. I think this is something that has to be worked out with som of the lending institutions. Johi Kagel: Mr. Chairman and Commissioners, I know that you are aware of layor Peter Nemeth's task force on neighborhoods. I was fortunate to ittend such a meeting for four or five hours at Broadway Christian Chu ch and -I thought it was well worthwhile. I thought it had to be one of he best such meetings that I have ever attended, having to do with neighborhoods and the efforts to reverse this trend of deterioration. Everyone who was there was in agreement and it was a full house, that it s probably the first good approach to what they are attempting to do with all the neighborhoods in the city. Cha -r: If I might digress for a minutes, just to point out some progress, the Common Council and the previous administration gave Southhold Res - tor tions sixty or seventy thousand dollars for loans in the W. Washington are . Several loans have been made and all you need do is go through that arei and see that it is coming back. You can't buy a house on West Washington anymore, property values are going back up along there. We are now going to start work on Colfax and LaSalle next. This thing will work, people will be interested in moving back to these old neighbor- hoods. John Lindstaedt: That's what we are looking forward to Sir! (c) In accordance with recommendation of the Southeast Advisory Board, Commission approval requested for recission of the award of the following contract: Contract No. Address SEC /PR /CS -4/31 630 East Dayton Street Recommendation for recission was made due to the fact that the structure is no longer occupied. Contract was awarded to Slatile Roofing and Sheet Metal Company for a total contract price of $6,245.00. Mr. Brownell read this item and the Chair asked Mr. Butler if we could app ove this request. Mr. Butler: Ken (Schaller), have you cleared this with Slatile? CONTRACT RESCINDED SOUTHEAST SECD /PR /CS 4/31 7.(c) NE! BUSINESS, Continued: Wayna Brownell: Slatile is aware of the fact and the contract has been held up and they have not been given a notice to proceed, is that right? Ken Schaller: That is correct. Mr. Brownell: The people just moved out of the house and in the South- east Committee meeting I attended, the house is no longer eligible beca se it is no longer owner- occupied. We have to tell Slatile that we are sorry but we do not have an eligible house under HUD guidelines. Kevin Butler: Ken, you ought to prepare a brief letter to be signed by the ommission or by Wayne if the Commission wants to authorize it, indi ating that the contract is to be rescinded with Slatile to sign at tie bottom. On call by the Chair :..: motion to rescind this contract and notification be given to Slatile Roofing and Sheet Metal Co. that the structure is no 1 nger eligible under the law for rehabilitation was made by Mr. Donaldson, seconded by Mr. Wiggins and carried. (d)-In accordance with recommendation of the Southeast Advisory Board CONTRACT re u st is being made that the following contract bid be rejected: CS -7/56 REJECTED CS-7t56 630 East Haney Ave. $9,095.00 Slatile Roofing & Sheet Metal Co., Inc. Mr. 3rownell explained that the top amount we are allowed under HUD guide line is $9,000 so we have to reject this bid on the basis that it is a ove the amount we are allowed to award. There was only one bid on this contract. Mr. iggins moved with second by Mr. Cira to reject this contract bid as s t forth above. Motion carried. (e) Ar. Brownell read this item from the agenda regarding the Barton- BARTON- Asch an Associates Inc. contract for the preparation of a ParkinStudy ASCHMAN for Indiana R -66. Commission approval requested, with contract fee ASSOCIATES of $12,160.00 with completion of contract ninety days from date of the CONTRACT contract. Mr. Brownell stated that actually if you will recall, we AUTHORIZED appr ved this work back in June at an earlier meeting, and the work has IND R -66 been performed, now we are asking you to approve a formal contract in accordance with the HUD form. You may recall that we had a bid from them in June for $14,120 and an alternate bid of $12,620, depending upon who did the field work. We had the people here in the city do the field work and approved the bid of $12,620. The work is now completed and a have received reports from the firm. Mr. iggins moved for approval of the formal contract as set forth above, sec by Mr. Cira and discussion followed. d" 7(e) NEW BUSINESS, continued: Gee Evans: Will you refresh our minds about the purpose of the co tract? Mr. Brownell: It was for a parking study on how we might handle park- in in the downtown area and also it had to do with the possible relocation of the bus terminal and the Sears move. Gene Evans: Has it been published? Mr. Brownell: No.It has not been published and the reason is that we had hoped we could work out an additional study to be added to thE contract, rather than waste this one, and put it in as a supple - me t attached for publication. Mr. Mr. we Mr, Evans: What is the timing on that, do you know? Brownell: We don't know just yet, we have to get the alternate plans are talking about. Evans: What will the additional study cover? Mr Brownell: It will cover parking, as well as the alternate plan fo downtown. Ch ir: They really can't do much on the parking study until we make so a plans -- until we get something concrete. There is one on the dr fting boards... Mr� Evans: It's still in verylight pencil, isn't it? ir: No, I wouldn't say that. Mr. Evans: What I am concerned about is you have a study here that wa3 completed in June and we don't have the benefit of being able to study and see it and you aren't really certain of the timing on tha additional studies you are going to do. Mr. Brownell: The difficulty is that we want to use the study without go ng through the expense of doing it all over again. Mr � Wiggins: Part of this.study related to the proposed Superblock - an it no longer fits. Ch ir: But the basic data, the population of the area and the number of people coming into town, etc., all of this is still valid. it re tr Wiggins: The part that relates to the Civic Center is valid..when get some plans formulated, which should not be too far down the ad, we would like to modify using the data that they have, to apply against what they have then and make it all a part of this thing, ther than go back and make :another contract and churn the whole thing rough again for a lot more money. It's actually an attempt to save money. - 11 - 7(e) NEW BUSINESS, continued: Mr Brownell: I think this will become apparent in a moment, we have so e other contracts here that will indicate the things that are ha pening. Mr Evans: My concern is partly that I am a member of the parking study commission appointed by the Mayor and the Council and we are continually trying to keep ourselves aware of what is happening and we would like the benefit of... Mr Brownell: We would like you to have it - in fact I think we can wo k it out with you after the meeting. Chair: One of the.big questions is what to do with the bus terminal. We have a great obligation to the travelling public who use the buses, to get them in and out of the center of the city: On the other hand, you have certain HUD regs as to the use of land for transportation facilities and you have to combine the need and the regs and come up with a solution and this is one of the great problems we have downtown. Motion was then put to the vote and carried. (f ) C. Wayne Brownell read Item 7 (f) of the agenda concerning request for Commission authorization to enter into formal contract with Borge & Pitt, Attorneys, for preparation of advice concerning legal im- p ca ions o t e provisions of Indiana Code concerning Tax Increment financing of Redevelopment improvements and in particular, how these provisions affect proposed parking facilities in the Indiana R -66 Project Area. Contract term will commence on January 1, 1976 and be completed no later than 24 consecutive calendar months from the date of the contract. Mr. Brownell explained that Borge & Pitt have had experience in this field and it was deemed a good idea to work with someone who had experience in this particular area where we need help. He also indicated that he and Mr. Butler have worked out a potential co tract with Mr. Barge which calls for work to be paid on an hourly basis, with a lower hourly fee for the staff members, with a maximum not to exceed $10,000. BORGE & PITT ATTORNEYS, CONTRACT AUTHORIZED IND. R -66 Chair: This matter has been explained before. At the last session of the legislature we were working with Sen . Guttman and members of the House concerning some legislation for us concerning the downtown area and the tax situation. Mr. Butler and Mr. Brownell have been in contact with this firm through the months and were up there two or three weeks ago, in anticipation of further legislation being necessary on this subject. Mr. Donaldson: Is the date of contract correct - January 1, 1976? Mr Brownell: Borge & Pitt have been working on some of these things al this year and we have made some payment but this is a formal contract. Mr Evans: Is this work completed also? Mr Brownell: No, we have just now worked out a formal contract, before we had a normal relationship between attorney and client. 12 7.(f) NEW BUSINESS, Continued: Mo ion was made by Mr. Wiggins for authorization of this contract wi h Borge & Pitt at a contract price not to exceed $10,000, with se and by Mr. Cira. Mr � Evans then asked if this contract would include preparation of th legislation and Mr. Brownell indicated that it would. Motion was put to the vote and carried. g. for C. Wayne Brownell read Item (g) of the agenda concerning request authorization to enter into contract with James E. Childs and JAMES E. CHILDS AND Associates Inc. for the preparation of a study of future land use the Central Downtown Project Indiana R -66, study to include rendered ASSOCIATES INC. in site plans, land use plans and rendered perspectives depicting pro- CONTRACT posed improvements. This contract provides for a compensation schedule APPROVED at the rate of $25 per hour for principal architect, $20 per hour for IND R -66 non-principal registered architect, and $16 per hour for draftsman, with a maximum compensation to be paid under the terms of the con- tract of $7,500. The contract period is to begin in December, 1976 an be completed in 75 consecutive calendar days from the date of the co tract. Mr. Brownell stated that again, Mr. Childs and staff are working and "I am bringing you a formal contract at this time and asking you to av rove it ". Chair: As soon as the Sears announcement was made, the Mayor's Committee on Downtown Development contacted the Chair and other members of the Commission and we formally told them that we concurred with them that some alternate plan had to be provided fora This is now coming to fruition, we have worked out a formal contract with the architect who is already working, and has been for several weeks on this - this formalizes the contract with him. Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins to authorize this contract with James E. Childs & Associates, Inc. for preparation of a study of future land use in the Central Downtown area, Indiana R -66, with maximum compensa- tion under the contract of $7,500. Motion was seconded by Mr. Cira. Mr. Evans: I think you answered my question, this is coordinated with the City? I mean our total effort here as far as city administration an redevelopment... Chair: Mr. Brownell has been in contact with Dr. Wing Dractically every day and the Mayor various times during the week. I have been in contact with the Mayor about twice a week and Dr. Wing the same and other members of the Commission have been consulted on this. si ha wi Johnethen White. What are they (the Childs firm) being asked to do? Brownell: Do you mean the architect? He is being asked to develop e plans for the proposed development of the downtown area. There e been discussions with him about different ideas and I assume we 1 have alternate plans. As a matter of fact, he will be submitting - 13 - 7.(g) N W BUSINESS, Continued: s�me drawings today for a meeting that is being held probably right n w with some interested developers. C air: This involves the area that was going to be taken by the so- called "Superblock ". It involves the "hole" and other undeveloped land downtown. We have had as the Chair has explained at previous m etings, informal inquiries by other people as to specific areas both u der our control and other private control and with the Superblock n t going because of Sears, we have to come up with some alternative p an as to how to use this vacant land under existing HUD regulations a d this is what this architect is doing. Lindstaedt: Does this include development of off - street parking? . Wiggins: The parking aspect will be a part of his work and the rton- Aschman Associates study also. Parking is a major problem. Chair: This is one of the big problems, as Don (Wiggins) has said before. Downtown surface parking is expensive and yet you want to convenience the public. You have a cost factor involved here and this is what has to come out of the machine when you get together the Barton- Aschman Associates, the architect, the Downtown Mayor's C mmittee, the Commission and everyone, as to what is the best thing t do considering need, cost, regulations, etc. plus you really don't h ve the space. Mr. Lindstaedt: I should think someone would think of retiring those parking lot bonds we have instead of stringing this thing out for- ever and a day. Chair: The current parking garages are another ball game altogether. Mr. Lindstaedt: My girls don't like to drive up in those things, they can never find the car and secondly, it gets darned cold up there in the winter time. Chair: The other day Mr. Brownell was telling me about his trip to C icago with Mr. Butler, and they parked in the Loop and paid $4.50 f r parking in a city garage and were there for maybe four hours. M * Wiggins: These same people who cry real tears about paying a dime f r a parking meter here will go to Chicago and pay $3.50 and up a d you don't hear them squawking about it. M�. Cira: But they go there twice a year. . Wiggins: That's a lot of dimes, nonetheless. Motion was put to vote and carried unanimously. h C. Wayne Brownell read Item 7(h) of the agenda which for Commission authorization to enter into contract with is a request Dr. George CONTRACT WITH DR. Win .as Consultant for the planning and promotion of sale of land GEORGE in the Central Downtown Project Indiana R -66, services of Consultant WING to begin January 1, 1977 and continue on a month -to -month basis. APPROVED IND R -66 - 14 - 7.(h) N W BUSINESS, Continued: Compensation under this contract will be $1,250.00 per month plus travel expense with total compensation and reimbursement, if any, not to exceed $16,000.00 for all services required. Chair: I believe we all know that Dr. Wing has given a year of his life free gratis on a sabbatical from Indiana University this past year. He goes back to teaching classes this coming January and this contract keeps him on the job now and pays him for his services. Don Wiggins moved for approval of this contract as stated above. Gene Evans asked if Ur. Wing would now be reporting to the Rede- velopment Department instead of to the city. M% Brownell indicated Dr. Wing would be reporting to the Commission, n t to the Redevelopment Department. M-. Lindstaedt: I notice he will be allowed $1,250.00 per month plus travel expense. I believe you are talking_ about per diem if he goes anywhere. Chair: At the rate of $15.00 per day. M-. Lindstaedt: Will travel expenses have to be cleared through the d partment? M-. Wiggins: Any travel will have to be authorized. M . Evans: Precisely what is it you expect him to do? C air: To continue what he has been doing. M�. Brownell: He will help us promote the downtown. J hn Kagel: Mr. Chairman, I am going to speak as the Executive Director of the South Bend Downtown Council and for the record, Mr. Getzinger c uld not be here today, he is the head of the Downtown Council. I t ink the items specifically having to do with the downtown, Items 7 e, f, g, h, I know this is a period for good cheer, but I think tie Commission should be commended for the action which you have t ken here today on these items - they are an absolute necessity for tie completion of the downtown program and I think you have given some g od thought to this, perhaps it will serve as a new guide post in this pr,oject which we would all like to see completed and therefore you should all be commended for it. C air: Mr. Kagel, the Chair on behalf of the Commission thanks.you f r those kind words because so often we get criticized here but as I tried to explain some meetings ago when the news was all bad, we k ew it was bad but we had been thinking about what might happen'if tie announcement from Sears was not what we wanted and things had - 15 - 7.(h) NSW BUSINESS, Continued: been tentatively formulated and this is a fruition of those tenta- tive plans and thinking of the Commission some weeks ago. Mr. Evans: How did you arrive at $1,250.00? It may be green -eyed jealousy showing up but if he is going to be doing some teaching.. Mr. Brownell: We negotiated with him - I negotiated with him first, then took it to the President of the Commission and the Vice President. This amount is much lower than his normal consulting -fee and it works out probably in the neighborhood of $15.00 to $20.00 an hour for the actual work time he will put in. It is much lower than the fee he usually charges for his consulting work. Mr. Evans: Do you have some feel for thenumber of hours per month he will be expending on this? Mr. Brownell: We have a fairly good idea how many hours will be spent, yes. Mr. Evans: But it is not on an hourly basis, but a monthly basis? Mr. Brownell: It is on a monthly basis, that's right, however the contract is on a month -to -month basis so if it isn't satisfactory to this Commission, it can be terminated. We do have control of the situation but I don't think we will have any problem with George. Don Wiggins: Knowing Dr. Wing, I don't think you will either but I think it is a reasonable question Gene, to ask how did you arrive at $",250 - instead of $800 or $1,000. You're saying the contract was negotiated at much lower than his normal consultation figure but for value received I think you have to exhibit some confidence that you are going to receive your money's worth. Chair: I think we are very fortunate in having Dr. Wing in this community - a member of the faculty at I.U.S.B. - he's a recognized authority and is used in other parts of the country, his regular fee being $100 per day and we have developed a very good rapport between the Commission and him and the Mayor. I say that as a Republican and Dr. Wing I believe is a former Democratic County Chairman from Cincinnati. We have a very good understanding and a good working r lationship with him and with the city administration and I think i is a valuable asset to have him here. Motion was seconded for authorization to enter into this contract, by Mr. Cira, put to the vote and carried unanimously. 8. PROGRESS REPORTS M . Brownell reported that Mr. Nunemaker -who was prepared to begin PROGRESS w rk on the Plaza Park Railing as soon as he received the wood and REPORTS s eel to do the work, expected to start the work today. T e other report Mr. Brownell made concerned his telephone conversa- t on with Ms. O'Neal on the 17th. Julius is in Warsaw on a job and - 16 - NO a flu PROGRESS REPORTS, Continued: lthough he had left for Warsaw, I told Ms. O'Neal the Notice to roceed with demolition of the building next to the Office Engineers arcel 4 -30, will ask them to begin on January 10, 1977. Mr. rownell also indicated he had asked the city to get their cars removed rom the parking lot so they aren't in the way and we are in the rocess of negotiating with Julius to determine how long it will ake him to complete the job. This will be included in the Notice o Proceed, and he has asked Mr. Alford to hold a conference with r. O'Neal that you have to hold with each contractor before they tart -- it is called a pre - construction conference, but this is a emolition project so "I don "t know what you call it ". evin Butler said he thought perhaps our resident expert on party alls be consulted by Mr. O'Neal. Ir. Brownell: As a matter of fact, there is a party wall between this uilding and Office Engineers and we are informed of that by the late arl King. hair: I think every building that was built downtown here between 870 and 1920 had a party wall. r. Brownell: So there will have to be some care exercised by the ontractor and we will so advise him. EXT MEETING he next scheduled meeting of the Redevelopment Commission will be eld on Tuesday, January 4, 1977, immediately following the Re- rganizational Meeting of the Commission which is scheduled for 0:00 A.M. DJOURNMENT ere being no further business before the Commission, motion was de for adjournment at 11:10 A.M. by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. ra and carried. SEAL) , txecu - 17 - vresiaen 1 -4 -77 NEXT COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNMENT