HomeMy WebLinkAboutRM 02-20-76Februa 20, 1976
10:00 M.
Presiding Officer:
1. ROLL CALL
SOUTH BEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
Mr. F. Jay Nimtz,
President
1200 County -City Building
227 W. Jefferson Boulevard
South Bend, Indiana 46601
issioners Mr. F. Jay Nimtz, President
ent: Mr. Donald A. Wiggins, Vice President
Mr. A. Peter Donaldson, Secretary
Mr. Robert J. Cira, Assistant Secretary
Mr. Lloyd E. Robinson, Sr., Member
Ledal Counsel:
News Media:
Others Present:
Mr. George T. Patton
Ms. Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune Reporter
Mr. Dave Anderson, WNDU -TV Reporter
Mr. James L. Marchelewicz, WNDU -TV Photographer
Mr. Dan Caesar, WSBT -TV Reporter
Mr. Roy Roth, WSBT -TV Photographer
Mr. Larry Ford, WSJV -TV Reporter
Mr. Les Howard, WSJV -TV Photographer
Mr. John R. Kagel, Executive Director, Downtown
South Bend Council
Mr. John V. Lindstaedt, Fair Tax Association
Mr. Harrison Miller, Interested Citizen
Mr. Irene Mutzl, Fair Tax Association
Mr. Bill E. Slabaugh, Dept. of Public Works
Community
De elo ment Mr. Keith P. Crighton
St ff:
LPA Staff: Mr. C. Wayne Brownell
Ms. Helen S. King
2. APOROVAL OF MINUTES
Mo ion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and MINUTES
ca ried, for the approval of the Minutes of the Regular Meeting APPROVED
of February 6, 1976, as mailed and /or distributed.
3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
OnE of the claims before the Commission was the final pay esti- CLAIMS
mate, in amount of $12,264.15, for work performed by Exterior APPROVED
Designing, Inc., for Contract No. 2, Phase III, the Pedestrian
Wa , per letter from Clyde E. Williams & Associates, Inc., dated
Fe ruary 12, 1976.
3. APPI
a rel:
OVAL OF CLAIMS (Cont'd)
on was made by Mr..Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Robinson and carried,
the claims be approved, as submitted, and they be allowed and
red to be paid -- totalling $26,718.08. The authorized claims
ECT EXPENDITURES ACCOUNT R -57
ract & Title Corporation $ 50.00
Total T 50.00
PROJECT EXPENDITURES ACCOUNT R -66
Kevin
Lou
Clyde
REDEVELOPMENT
J. Butler
-Ann Country Mart
E. Williams & Associates and Environmental
and Design (Joint Venture)
REVOLVING FUND
Payroll: January 24 to February 6, 1976
Planning
Total
$ 1,296.72
1,000.00
1,077.34
X3,374.06
$ 5,763.98
Bas
ey Ford of South Bend
For
588.38
Business
Systems, Inc.
For
11.20
Quonset
Brake & Front End, Inc.
27.30
E.
D. Poe & Associates
240.00
Total
6,630.86
BUREAU
OF HOUSING E -7
Pest Control - Rehabilitation Contract No.
19
10.00
Acme
A.B.C.
Plumbing & Heating Co. - Rehabilitation Contract
No. 35
4,258.40
Kevin
J. Butler
98.00
Total
$ 4,366.40
DISTRICT CAPITAL BONDS OF 1972
Exterior Designing, Inc.
South Bend Water Works
Total
GRAND TOTAL
REIMBURSEMENT
TO
REVOLVING FUND
For
the month
of
January, 1976: R -57
For
the month
of
January, 1976: R -66
Total
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$ 12,264.15
32.61
� 12,296.76
$ 26,718.08
$ 1,934.77
8,358.38
10,293.15
4. COMMUNICATIONS
a. HUD Area Office letter dated February 4, 1976: This letter is STATUS
over the signature of Mr. Stephen J. Havens, Director, Community AND CLOSE -
Planning and Development Division, Department of Housing and OUT OF
Urban Development, Indianapolis Area'Office. PROJECTS
A-10,
Mr. C. Wayne Brownell, Executive Director, Department of Redevelop- R -66 &
ment, read the letter in its entirety in the Commission meeting. R -57
In summary, Mr. Brownell advised the letter of February 4, 1976,
purports to document conclusions reached in a meeting with Ms.
Jeanne Meggs and Ms. Peggy Hudgens on January 20, 1976, regarding
the status and close -out of Project A -10, which is scheduled for
close -out on March 31, 1976; requesting a financial plan be sub-
mitted in connection with Project R -66 by February 20, 1976; and
a status report on Project Indiana R -57 by May 1, 1976.
A financial plan was presented to the Commission in their packets
along with a copy of the February 4th letter. Mri Brownell advised
this financial plan for Project Indiana R -66 has been submitted to
to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, attention of
Mr. Steven J. Havens, Director, Community Planning and Development
Division.
The Chair advised that he and Mr. Brownell worked on this financial
plan last Friday and last Monday, and essentially there is no way
that we can meet HUD's deadline to close out this Project:
1) Because we have some lawsuits pending that need to be settled,
and
2) I believe we need the approval of the City Council in regard to
this plan.
The Chair further stated that if we do sell the land, we are not
going to get the full amount of money to pay off the project, and
that the overall original plan called for five (5) parking garages,
which, of course, have not come about, and additional parking garages
is something we do not need right now. He said the reason this whole
thing has come up at this time is that HUD is requesting we close
out these particular projects, which the Chair said'he felt cannot be
done at this time -- mainly because we have some lawsuits pending.
The Chair called on Commissioner Wiggins to comment, being the senior
member of the Commission, whose response was: "Well, obviously, our
crystal ball was cloudy as to what was to be expected in the begin-
ning on this, and we have not been able to market a good bit of the
deal. There are several other factors: The part of the City's share
on this was predicated upon the building of parking garages- -five in
number - -two of which have been constructed--the others have not, and
until disposition is made of the land - -as Jay said -- there really is
not the need existing for the parking garages. There is also the
additional fact that in part of this, there has been some City cash
money which has not been paid, and this also tends to complicate and
cloud the issue. It would seem to me that the request for close -out,
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at this point, is unrealistic, in view of the amount of land that
we have to dispose of yet, in addition to the lawsuits and other
factors."
"There is also the additional situation that we need to face,
and that is, in all probability, we will not be able to market
the land at the price at which it was originally contemplated
we would be able to get for it. I would suspect that in order
to accomplish the kind of efforts that we would like to see in
the downtown area, it will be necessary to make a number of con-
cessions. We have to be realistic and understand that this is
all a competitive kind of thing, and that if it is the desire
of the people to have the downtown be a large retail market
area, then the conditions that are necessary to provide this kind
of activity are going to at least have to be on a par which can
be accomplished elsewhere. We can't expect retailers to pay a
premium to be in the downtown area at the current time, and, if
we hold that kind of view, we are going to be looking at a lot
of vacant land for a long time."
"Whether you like things or not, you have to accept the facts of
realism as it is, and you have to deal with the kind of world
situation that you have, and I think that is what we are looking
at here. How it will all come out, it is difficult to say. One
thing about this whole process that I have certainly noted over
the years is that we do not have control of the whole operation.
The way the thing philosophically is put together is that we try
to create a climate that will encourage the private sector to move
in and actually do all the developing. We are not developers.
All that we can do is create the situation that will allow the
development to take place. Well, this has to happen first, really,
and we have operated according to a plan that would accommodate all
the essential elements that would make this development possible and
favorable. Unfortunately, the time table was such- -and the economic
situation that developed was such - -that many of the things that were
anticipated to happen didn't happen. Whether they would have happened
under other circumstances is moot; there's no way you can handle
that. What we have to do is deal with what we have now, and that,
essentially, is what.we are looking at."
The Chair asked Mr. Brownell if he had any further comments to add
or to report on any comments made by the City Council on the pro-
posed plan, and Mr. Brownell advised that it was agreeable with
the Mayor and the seven (7) members of the City Council present
in Caucus, to go ahead the submit the plan to HUD, which he said
he did as requested.
Regarding further questions by the news media, the Chair advised
the financial plan for Project R -66 that Mr. Brownell has worked
out through June, 1980, can be met if the City Council approves
it, but there is no way that we can meet the close -out date of
August 10, 1976.
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4. COMMUNICATIONS (Cont'd
Ms. Derbeck, South Bend Tribune Reporter, noted that the sale of
land, as shown in the financial plan are unsold parcels, but as
they are included, if that is speculation of land sale? Mr.
Brownell advised that the sale of Block 6 is shown in the finan-
cial plan; the Plaza Park land, Disposition Parcel No. 6 -2, that
will be sold to the City and is 'Item 6a on today's Agenda; and we
also are estimating the possibility of other land sales in Project
Indiana R -66.
The Chair added that under HUD regulations, our appraisals are
old, and we have asked Real Estate Research Corporation of Chicago
for re- appraisals, which are in process at this time, and it would
be his presumption that some of these land'values will go up, but
others may go down. We don't know; this is where you get the
experts from the real estate field on just what land is worth.
Mr. Dan Caesar, WSBT -TV reporter, asked, "In other words, you are
not abandoning the Project? You will continue to go through with
it and fulfill your obligation ?" The Chair replied, "AMEN! Yes."
Ms. Derbeck said, then the interpretation of the word 'close -out'
is to close the books, rather than closing out the Project, and
Mr. Brownell advised that it might be the close - out of the books
perhaps, but the financial plan goes on. Ms. Derbeck further
asked if there is a close -out in August, or whenever the time
would be set, how would that affect our plans to do more construc-
tion of the Plaza, or does that mean we couldn't do it any more?
Mr. Brownell advised the Plaza doesn't have anything to do with
that; it is not part of the Federal project, other than just part
of the plan. In other words, the money for the Plaza doesn't come
out of Federal funds. We always do ask for HUD approval, but that
it is more of a courtesy than anything.
Mrs. Irene Mutzl, Fair Tax Association, asked what the lawsuits
are that President Nimtz referred to previously. Mr. Brownell
reported on the Columbia Warehouse lawsuits due to the fire,
and that we settled one at the last meeting for $1,000; prior to
that we settled one for $14,500 of our money, plus the insurance
company's money that comes from the insurance company for the City.
We were not insured and are not supposed to be under HUD rules.
We still have cases pending against us in that regard that are
not settled and have not been tried as yet. The Chair added there's
another one; e.g., the question of priority of funds to pay the
Barrett Law obligations- -which has the priority? When the money
is in the till, does the Barrett Law obligations come first, second,
or third, etc. Mr. Brownell said the title to real estate is in-
volved in that. The question is, does the welfare lien, or Barrett
Law lien come first? Does the tax lien or Barrett Law lien have
precedence? See the confusion? It's a matter when we get into it;
there is not enough money to go around to the title of all the
people who have interest in the property, so that has to be settled.
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4. COMMUNICATIONS (Cont'd
Ms. Derbeck referred to the prior statement made by Commissioner
Wiggins, in regard to the City cash money that has not yet been
paid to Redevelopment and that is one of the issues. Mr. Brownell
said it's a fact the City hasn't paid some overruns in public
improvements, and that they haven't paid some matching funds.
Commissioner Wiggins said these are the matching funds that the
City Council ignored, he believed, as they haven't come up with
the funds and this has to be a part of any kind of final settle-
ment.
Mr. John V. L-indstaedt, Fair Tax Association, asked, "Do you be-
lieve, Sir, that it is realistic at this time to think the Down-
town area at this point in time has a retail center rather than
a service - oriented center in the community as there are develop-
ments of malls in other areas of the City?- I see a reluctance on
the part of retailers to move into this area due to the fact of
parking and a good many other minus's, etc., that kind of things
that come into the area in shopping centers in the malls. Com-
missioner Wiggins answered that is a good question, and "actually,
this is kind of up for grabs sort of thing. It's true that the
trend, for a long period of time now has been to create shopping
areas in the outer fringes of the community where land is cheap
and where they can put it all together in a' package without a
great deal of effort. It takes a lot more effort to make space
available in a downtown built -up section than it is out in the corn-
field somewhere in the edge of town. However, there have been some
moves in this other direction, and I would venture to say that this
energy situation is going to change this picture; it isn't going to
change it right away, but it will change it, because the energy
crisis is real. This thing has gotten involved in a lot of politics
and a lot of emotions, but if you sort it all out, it's factual and
given 10 years period of time, there's going to be a tremendous
amount of incentive for people to use public transportation which
gives you back the idea of building a city in the first place- -where
you concentrate things in the center. Now, the things that aren't
going to go away from downtown are all of the service /commercial kinds
of things that are here already- -the legal community; banking com-
munity; many of the professional services that are concentrated down-
town. The whole purpose of this thing and what made it tick in the
first place was that the downtown was central to everything. Now,
when transportation and the use of energy becomes a real problem,
then these things come back into focus, so I think that time runs in
our direction. That is one reason that I said this is not going to
happen overnight, but I think that it will happen; and I think we
ought to be aware of these things, and that we ought to be working
toward this end because it seems logical and sensible."
Mr. Lindstaedt further added that the transportation situation was
one point he was trying to make and that the transportation situa-
tion is very important- -the availability to the community and not
only the service /oriented. One of the big problems to bring people
in is transportation. As far as the labor market- -the labor climate- -
we have everything, except one thing, and that is airline connections.
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4. COMMUNICATIONS.(Cont'd
We have a very viable city- -the City of South Bend - -we have all the
commodities -- especially in the labor market. All these things tie
in together. When you send your people out to sell your community,
you have to give them something to sell.
Commissioner Cira reported on his recent visit to Cleveland, Ohio,
and one would have to see it to believe it= they have a large mammoth
parking garage in Cleveland -- right down in the heart of town--with
a very nice restaurant, and on the third floor of the garage they had
a super market. The super market had 12,000 square feet and has
been operating since last August and doing approximately $3,000
business a week. It's unbelievable.
The Chair called on Mr. John R. Kagel, Executive Director, Downtown
South Bend Council: Mr. Kagel said he believes today proves a point- -
"that you gentlemen are'sort of isolated in fighting this battle from
the citizens of the community. We all recognize the importance of
the downtown area as a tax base to the city. We all recognize the
importance of the city as a tax base to the 'county, and as I sit here
listening to this comment, I am reminded that probably the Mishawaka
people, their downtown urban renewal program is 'faced with some of
the same problems. It would appear that as our communities of South
Bend and Mishawaka have worked together so well these many years
that maybe the day has arrived that perhaps you can share some of
your learnings with the Mishawaka people, and the Mishawaka people
can share some of their learnings with you gentlemen, but, most
especially, I think that we have arrived at a point where you volun-
teer people- -lay people -- perhaps should sit down, and I know that the
Mayor- -that this is a mandate on the part of the Mayor of the City- -
but I think that there has to be an understanding - -a mutual under-
standing of the problem, the possible solutions, the importance of
these problems and the solving of these problems to the tax base of
the community. I think the time has arrived that it would be bene-
ficial for not only the cities of Mishawaka and South Bend to sit
down, but to sit down with the respective City Council, with the
County Council, with the County Commissioners, with the Area Plan
Commission, with the Board of Zoning Appeals of these two cities,
and to discuss this as to where are we going with these two cities.
Do we revert to the cornfield problem--and I am sure that some of these
people are aware of that- -but these are all.intermingled. Someway
there is going to have to be enough people to sit down around these
tables to discuss this problem -- especially as it relates to the tax
base of our two communities. You are doing a good job. I have empathy
for the problems that you have; you have the bureaucracy on top of you;
the Federal people that are breathing down your neck. I just wish the
rest of the people in the community were aware of how you are trying
to resolve these problems."
Mrs. Mutzl asked, "Mr. Nimtz, do I understand correctly- -had we built
three more parking garages, the debt that you now owe to the Federal
Government would be smaller by that amount ?" President Nimtz said,
"By matching funds, yes." Mrs. Mutzl further asked, ` "But the City
could be in debt for these garages; so you are in 'debt one way or
another. Mr. Brownell said they would be worse off really. Mr.
Caesar added, "They wouldn't owe the Government; they would owe the
bank."
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4. COMMUNICATIONS (Cont'd
5. OLD
Mr. Larry Ford, WSJV -TV Reporter, said: "Part of this financial
plan calls for - -or assumes that you are going to receive the
Urgent Needs Funds that have been requested from HUD- -but, in
the speech to the Rotary Club, the Mayor said he was not very
optimistic at all about receiving those funds. What are you going
to do if that money doesn't come in ?" Mr. Brownell replied that
he wrote that plan and his thought was that HUD encouraged us to
apply for Urgent Needs Funds. Those funds have been appropriated
by Congress; they are available to HUD. It is just a question of
which cities get the 'funds, and "as long as HUD wanted us to approach
a close -out problem and submit a financial plan, I thought we should
put that problem right back to HUD, and say, well, are you going to
give us the funds that are provided for in the regulations, been pro -
vided by Congress or not. We need them in order to do what you want
us to do." The Chair added, "That was my comment - -we urgently need
them to do what you want."
The Chair asked Mr. Brownell if we will receive some answer from the
Mayor and City Council concerning this plan, and whether this plan
has been submitted to HUD? Mr. Brownell advised they had just met
and talked orally; there was no written communication either way;
and the plan has been submitted to HUD.
Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and unani-
mously carried, to receive the HUD Area Office letter dated February
4, 1976, and place the letter on file.
BUSINESS
a. Robert Foegley Landscape Design and Contracting, Inc.,Extension
of Contract No. 7 Award, Phase III, R -66: Mr. Brownell read
this letter, in its entirety, from Mr. Foegley received yesterday
afternoon, in which the contractor agrees to the extension of the
bid award.for the Pedestrian Way, (Contract No. 7, Lawns and
Planting Work), through June 15, 1976, Phase III, Project Indiana
R -66. The beginning of construction and completion dates would
also be delayed.
Mr. Brownell advised the last time the Commission extended the
time for making the award until the 29th of February', because
that was the letter date that Mr. Foegley had. Hickey's letter
had an extension date of March 15. We extended the time for
Hickey and Foegley, in the Commission meeting, to February 29.
Now, Mr. Foegley is agreeing to the extension to June 15th, but
ae can extend both of them until March 15 or we can extend Foegley's
until June if the Commission wishes', but Hickey's can only be ex-
tended to March 15 at this time.
he Chair asked for a motion to approve this. Mr. Wiggins made
he motion, I'll so move. Seconded by Mr. Cira. The Chair asked
f there were any further questions, to which Commissioner Rohinson
esponded, "I'have a question- -what are you talking about now - -are
ou going to extend them both to the same date? °I am asking for a
larification of the motion ?" The Chair asked if the motion is
or the date extension to June 15, with Mr. Cira's response: "To
une15. _8_
ROBERT
FOEGLEY
LANDSCAPE
DESIGN &
CONTRACTING,
INC. LETTER
RE EXTENSION
TO AWARD
CONTRACT 7,
MALL EXTEN-
SION, R -66
5. OLDIBUSINESS (Cont'd
L
Mr. Brownell said that motion can be made on Foegley's extension,
but that on Hickey's, it can only be extended to March 15.
Votes were taken for the award of Contract No. 7, for Lawns and
Planting Work, to the low bidder, Robert Foegley Landscape Design
and Contracting, Inc., to be extended through June 15, 1976, for
Phase III, Project Indiana R -66, with the beginning of construc-
tion and completion dates also delayed. 'The "Ayes" were unani-
mous for the June 15 extension and motion was carried.
The Hickey Company, Inc., Extension of Contract No. 10 Award,
Phase III, R-66: On the Hickey contract, Mr. Brownell advised'
we had received a letter from them prior in which they agreed
to extend the time to March 15, 1976, and in the Commission
meeting of January 16, both Hickey's and Foegley`"s contracts
were extended until February 29th.
Commissioner Wiggins said to make sure that we are covered until
the time of our next meeting`, he is making the motion to accept
Hickey's request for extension to March 15th, because in Hickey's
letter dated January 15, 1976, they had offered to extend to that
date. Motion was seconded by Mr. Robinson and unanimously carried.
Various questions were raised by
This letter was not on the Agenda
in the packets. It was presented
ary 16.
the news media on this item.
in answer to "it not being
in Commission meeting of Janu-
Foegley received yesterday afternoon, which states that because
of the delay in awarding of the Pedestrian Way contract, they
would like to have their bid bond for this project released, as
this bonding power is needed for bids on current projects. They
state they agree to provide all bonds necessary within ten (10)
days of the actual award date.
It was recommended their bid bond be released.
The motion was made by Mr. Wiggins that we receive Mr. Robert
Foegley's request and comply with it. Motion was seconded by
Mr. Donaldson and unanimously carried.
c. Contract with Legal Counsel, George T. Patton, for Professional
Services: The Chair advised that at the last Commission meeting
he had recommended to the Commission that the legal work be
divided between Kevin J. Butler and George T. Patton- -that Mr.
Patton would handle the courtroom work, lawsuits and things
like that, and that Mr. Butler would be the negotiator and at-
tend our Commission meetings. Mr. Butler isn't here today be-
cause he is away on business, but this contract for Mr. Patton
is the same format as authorized by HUD, and at the same rates
as for Mr. Butler.
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THE HICKEY
CO., INC.
LETTER RE
EXTENSION
TO AWARD
CONTRACT 10,
MALL EXTEN-
SION, R -66
ROBERT
FOEGLEY
LANDSCAPE
DESIGN &
CONTRACTING,
INC. LETTER
RE BID BOND
RELEASE,
CONTRACT 7,
MALL EXTEN-
SION, R -66
CONTRACT
WITH LEGAL
COUNSEL,
GEORGE T.
PATTON
5. OLD BUSINESS (Cont'd
. Dan Caesar requested a brief breakdown of the rates and costs,
ich the Chair supplied.
tion was made by Mr. Donaldson, seconded by Mr. Wiggins and unani-
usly carried, for the authorization to enter into a contract with
. George T. Patton, for professional services as noted above, and
e President and Secretary `be` authorized to execute said contract.
r. George T. Patton's contract is dated the 20th day,of February,
976, with an effective date of February 6, 1976, and the limita-
ion of fees are as noted in the contract, unless amended by mutual
greement of the parties hereto.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Contract for Sale of Land for Redevelopment, Disposition Parcel
No. 6 -2, R -66: This contract is by and between the City of
South Bend, Department of Redevelopment, and the City of South
Bend for the use and benefit of its Board of Park Commissioners,
for purchase amount of $160,000.00, Disposition Parcel No. 6-2,
Project Indiana R -66. This is the Plaza Park - -four (4) acre strip
along the St. Joseph River, from Jefferson Bridge to Monroe, in-
cluding the bridge which is being converted from a railroad bridge
to pedestrian bridge across the St. Joseph River.
Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and unani-
mously carried, for the approval of the Contract for Sale of Land
for Redevelopment, Disposition Parcel No. 6 -2, Project Indiana
R -66, for purchase amount of $160,000.00, and the President and
Secretary be authorized to execute said contract.
a
Sign at Toby's, River Bend Plaza, R -66: Commission approval
was requested of the Sign Committee's recommendation for double
face projecting sign, (orange raised letters on blue background),
with projection of 24 ", non - illuminated, at Toby's, River Bend
Plaza, 120 -A South Michigan Street, with sign to be mounted above
line of proposed sidewalk canopy, Project Indiana R -66.
Mr. Brownell advised the City of South Bend does have an ordinance
on signs and we could not approve the permanent sign that he wanted,
but we are working out a plan here to give Toby's a temporary sign
which he will make himself, of the dimensions noted above. Com-
missioner Wiggins added that we are trying to accommodate this
temporary situation and the Commission would have been perfectly
willing to accommodate the situation at any time had a request been
made. Maybe this is one of the better functions of the Press that
it gets all these things out that something happens -- reference to`
Ms. Derbeck's article in The South Bend Tribune, on Toby's, "Plaza
Venture Loses Glow."
Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and unani-
mously carried, for the approval of the above sign as recommended
by the Sign Committee.
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CONTRACT
FOR SALE
OF LAND
FOR RE-
DEVELOPMENT,
PARCEL 6 -2,
R -66
SIGN AP -.
PROVED,
TOBY'S,
RIVER BEND
PLAZA, R -66
6. NEWIBUSINESS (Cont'd
c.
Certificates of Completion of Redevelopment, R -57: Commission CERTIFICATES
authorization was requested for the approval of the following OF COMPLETION
Certificates of Completion of Redevelopment, and the Commission OF REDEVELOP -
President and Secretary to be authorized to execute, which are MENT APPROVED,
conveyed to each of the following, in the LaSalle Park Project, PARCELS 6 -22,
R -57: 28 -18 & 34 -1,
R -57
1) Parcel No. 6 -22: Ernest Lark and Naomi Lark
2) Parcel No. 28 -18: Jessie Griffin and Corine Griffin
3) Parcel No. 34 -1: Robert L. Campbell and Ethel Campbell
Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and
unanimously carried, for the approval of the above - listed Certi-
ficates of Completion of Redevelopment, R =57, and the President
and Secretary authorized to execute.
d.
Change Order No. 2 to. Plaza Park Contract No. :l, R -66: Com- CHANGE ORDER
mission approval was requested of this change order, with NO. 2 TO
Nautilus Construction Corporation, for an increase in contract PLAZA PARK
amount of $1,200.00, to relocate existing 80 units of railroad CONTRACT NO.1
ties @ $15.00 per unit, for an adjusted contract price of APPROVED,
$199,758.50, with an increase of sixty (60) calendar days, or R -66
contract completion date to May 15, 1976, Project Indiana R -66.
This is a new item number to the Contract to allow the con -
tractor to use on -site materials to give uniform load bearing
to the pedestrian bridge built on existing railroad trestle.
This is an improvement which will give longer, safe life to
the pedestrian brige. New ties cost $50.00 each and every
time we can use an existing tie at a cost of $15.00 `to relocate
the tie, we save $35.00. The new ties are used for all bearing
ties and the existing ties are relocated to be used alongside
the bearing ties.
Commissioner Robinson asked if the ties are really pressure
treated, or are they dipped? Mr. Bill Slabaugh, Project
Engineer, said they are pressure treated; it is not creosote
because creosote is sticky and this is the pedestrian way.
Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Cira and unani-
mously carried, to approve Change Order No. 2 to Plaza Park
Contract No. 1, with Nautilus Construction Corporation, for
an increase in contract amount of $1,200.00, for an adjusted
contract price of $199,758.50, with an increase of sixty (60)
calendar days, or contract completion date to May 15, 1976,
Project Indiana R -66, subject to HUD concurrence.
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6. NEW BUSINESS:(Cont'd
e.
of Housing, 1) to
Lahey, Attorney at
proposed agreement.
between Dept. of Redevelopment and Newbill
y SECD: Mr. Brownell read Mr. Keith P.
dated February 19, 1976, Director, Bureau
Redevelopment Commission, and 2) to Mr. Charles
Law, representing Mr. Newbill, outlining a
Due to a misunderstanding concerning performance bond requirements,
the Newbill firm is unable to provide bonds for contracts #11,
#12, #15 and #18, simultaneously. They have, however, been able
to provide bonding for contract #15, for work at 721 East Broadway,
in the Southeast Project. Rather than forfeiting $1,022.40 (10%
of the bid amounts for #11, #12 and #18), it has been suggested
that the LPA retain $250.00 and shorten the work completion time
per contract to two weeks.
The letter to Mr. Lahey verifies telephone conversation of Feb.
19, 1976, concerning Newbill Construction Company's acceptance
of a proposed contract procedure agreement. The plan to be
accepted:
A: The Dept. of Redevelopment will retain $250.00 to
be forfeited for contract default.
B: Work on contract #15, at 721 East Broadway, must be
completed within ten (10) working days from the date
of issuance of the notice to proceed.
C: Upon certification of final inspection, Mr. Newbill
has 72 hours in which to provide bond on the second
unit. All four structures must be completed within
their respective ten (10) working day periods, or the
retainer will be kept by the LPA.
As soon as the Newbill Company provides us with a certified
check for $250.00, we will return the original bid check in
the amount of $1,478.50.
It must be understood that this procedure does not set precedent
for any contracts in the future, and that this is a singular
situation that will not be repeated.
PROPOSED
AGREEMENT
APPROVED,
NEWBILL
CONSTRUCTION
SOUTHEAST
CD PROJECT
Commissioner Wiggins asked Mr. Crighton to refresh his memory- -
if this is the firm that was quite low in their bid and was a
new firm that we weren't sure would be able to hack it in the first
place? Mr. Crighton advised, "Yes, that is true. The Commission
'conditionally awarded' contracts #11, #12, #15 and #18, to Newbill
Construction Company, in Commission meeting of January 2, 1976. The
firm had ten days to provide a performance bond and couldn't come
up with that at that time and they requested an extension which was
granted him. As of February 10th, he had provided the singular bond
on the one contract. At that time, Mr. Crighton said he notified
the contractor that he was subject to forfeiture of $1,022.40 on
his contracts that he did not provide bonds on. The contractor con-
tacted his attorney, his attorney contacted Mr. Butler, and the outlined
agreement was negotiated.
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6. NEW BOSINESS (Cont'd
Commissioner Wiggins said this, now, in essence, will give the
contractor an opportunity to get established as a contractor in
this area. Mr. Crighton advised the firm has never had to supply
bonds before and it is not unusual for a bonding company to restrict
b nding to one contract only. The bonding companies want an exper-
i nce record.
Tie Chair asked Mr. Crighton what his experience has been with
tie contractor's work, and if it has been all right ?' Mr. Crighton
a vised Newbill Construction Company has worked in our E -6 Project
aid has had three or four contracts, and that each contract consisted
of six homes in that Project. The E -6 Approval Committee has been
s tisfied with the contractor's work and has awarded him additional
c ntracts.
C )mmissioner Robinson asked how many contractors bid on this Project
b sides this concern -- the contracts on the Southeast CD.Program?
M * Crighton said he believed there were four (4) other bidders on
tat. Commissioner Robinson further asked, "'Isn't this' taking un-
fair advantage of the other bidders if you allow this to happen
f r this one contract? Mr. Crighton said he really can't say; he
is not in position to make a statement on that. The Commissioner
a ded, "He knew the rules for the ball game, so I can't see why there
s ould be preferential treatment."
Mr. Crighton advised apparently what had happened as far as the word
isunderstanding' in his letter is that earlier on the Revenue Shar-
i g Project, we had no contract at that time, and many of the smaller
firms weren't able to get bond. We had allowed singular performance
b nds in commitment - -as long as they had a commitment letter from their
b nding company that they would issue additional bonding with two of
o r contractors, but this procedure had been stopped under Community
D velopment, because of the Commission's concern primarily with getting
w rk done within a reasonable period of time,and apparently Mr. Newbill
f It the old procedure was still in force. The Chair added, that be-
f re the contractor put up a bond issue before he started each contract.
C mmissioner Robinson said if he had to put it all up in one chunk,
it would cost him more money, and to me, this is unfair to the other
P ogle who bid.
Mr. Lindstaedt asked if there is a standing bonding that is used toward
t ese projects, or is it that everybody bids and takes a chance on
ether or not they will receive bonding or not? This is a rather hap-
hazard sort of way of going about a business. This is my thought; maybe
I'm wrong. Commissioner Wiggins responded that the procedure on the
part of the bonding company might be in this regard, and he supposed
there is a certain amount of gamble here, because it is quite possible
they wouldn't know in advance whether or not they were going to get the
bid and the bonding company might not be willing to put up the.bond
until after they have, in fact, the bid. Mr. Dan Caesar, WSBT -TV re-
porter asked, "When was the last time the Commission ever revoked that
rule and actually collected the money ?" Mr. Crighton and Mr. Brownell
both responded that they didn't believe we ever have done that. Mr.
Caesar added, "It doesn't look like you will ever do it in the future
hen either ?"
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6. NEW BI
JSINESS (Cont'd
Mr. Crighton further added that the idea here is that this will not
set precedence. Mr. Lindstaedt further stated "I'f you come along
with another contract, you will have the same.thing thrown at you
fast and furious. I have seen.this happen many, many times. Well,
actually here, Commissioner Wiggins stated,.the contractor is pro -
viding bond, but he is providing bond on each job as he does the job,
rather than on the four jobs at-one 'wack' and the only reason is
tat he can't get a bonding company to do it. r Mr. Lindstaedt, in
r peating his former question', asked, "My 'question 'is:' Do you have
a hard set rule on the bonding, or is it haphazard - -a hit and miss
d al ?" Mr. Brownell advised, "Actually, bonding is new. We have
n ver had any bonding on this kind of work until' recently. Like on
tie E -6 Program, there was no performance bond. This is something
t at we have instituted- -both the bonding on the bidding and on the
p rformance. Now, in this case, this agreement that Mrs Crighton
his worked out will accomplish the thing that "we are after, I believe,
b cause the thing we are after is to get the rehabilitation work done
q ickly - -as quickly as we can - -and so this man has shortened the time
ol which he will do the work on each job under this agreement to ten
w )rking days which will get all four houses done more quickly than it
w uld if we rejected the bids and went back and started rebidding
w ich would take a great delay." Mr. Caesar asked how much money
w uld the Commission be realizing in savings in letting the contractor
finish the Southeast contracts - -would it be a substantial amount be-
tween this bidder and the next low bidder? The Chair advised we would
have to rebid; we just couldn't take the next bid. Mr. Crighton advised
that on the conditional award that the Commission granted on the 2nd
of January, he had requested the motion that if these contracts were
r1escinded, that they would go to the next low bidder.
e Chair advised that we have a time element and we can't keep the
ntractors standing in line for six months with the next lowest
dder,'and that the contractor could refuse if he so desires. Com-
ssioner Wiggins added then we would go back to the rebidding process
d that would cost more than it would be worth. "Actually, this is
mply - -this doesn't change the actual thing that is happening here- -
simply changes the way in which it happens, because each job would
covered with a performance bond but it will be done individually as
e job is completed or as the job is started, rather than all of them
once. Now, in return for this kind of consideration, we are getting
mething. We are getting a commitment on his part for far more rapid
mpletion of the job than he otherwise would have had to offer, and
looks like the net result is going to be advantageous - -I say to
- -but actually to the people who are living in these houses, be-
use they are going to have their house back in order a lot faster,
d actually this is one of the big things that we are after. This
one of the things we are concerned with in instituting performance
nds. This puts a handle on it."
. Lindstaedt's question, "I brought this up at the last meeting I
tended about a month ago - -on this performance bond -- before they are
leased- -who does the investigating ?" Commissioner Wiggins advised,
. Crighton has been on top of this with his staff, and "I think we
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6. NEW 9USINESS (Cont'd)
re in a good staff position now to where we can get a good objective
iew. We got a lot of valuable experience out of the LaSalle Park
-57 Project."
Ir. John V. Lindstaedt, Fair Tax Association, stated "We are
pending the public's money, and I must admit, gentlemen, it all
omes out of the same pockets. it seems to me that sometimes
ou have to take a hard long look at where this money is being
pent, and how much you really get for the. dollar investment."
e Chair asked if there were any further questions or discussion.
ere being none, the Chair requested a motion.
tion was made by Mr. Wiggins for the approval of the proposed
reement between the Department of Redevelopment and Newbill Con-
ruction Company (outlined in Item 6e, page 12), seconded by Mr.
naldson.
e Chair asked if there were any further questions. There being
,ne, he asked for their votes: All signify by saying, "Aye" -
sponse on "Aye" votes was made by four (4) Commissioners: Messrs.
ggins, Donaldson, Cira, Nimtz. Contrary "No" vote request: Com-
ssioner Robinson cast a "No" vote. Motion was carried, with
ur (4) "Ayes and one (1) "Naye" vote.
Mr. Dan Caesar asked Mr. Robinson if he would state the reason he
v ted "No" and Commissoner Robinson responsed, "Yes. Because I
t ink it is unfair to the other contractors that bid on this
p oject- -that this guy get preferential treatment. The rules of
tie game are laid out before he ever bid on the Project, so why
s ouldn't he have to live with the original rules ?"
7. PROGRESS REPORTS
None.
8. NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
The n xt Regular Meeting of the Redevelopment Commission wi11 be at
10:00 a.m., Friday, March 5, 1976, in the Office of the Department
of Re evelopment.
9. ADJOURNMENT
Motion was duly made by Mr. Robinson, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and
carri d, for adjournment, at 11:08 a.m.
C. Wa
(SEAL
, Executive Direc
NEXT
COMMISSION
MEETING:
3 -5 -76
ADJOURNMENT
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