HomeMy WebLinkAboutSM 12-17-75 (2)Decembe 17, 1975
10:00 A.M.
Presidi g Officer:
1. ROUL CALL
SOUTH BEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
HELD IN LIEU OF
REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER 19, 1975
Mr. F. Jay Nimtz,
President
1200 County -City Building
217 West Jefferson Blvd.
South Bend, Indiana 46601
Commissioners Mr. F. Jay Nimtz, President
Pr sent: Mr. John E. Chenney, Vice President
Mr. Donald A. Wiagins, Secretary
Mr. A. Peter Donaldson, Assistant Secretary
Coff miss ioner
Absent:
Legal Counsel:
%s Media:
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Mr. Robert J. Cira, Member
Mr. Kevin J. Butler
Ms. Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune Reporter
Mr. Lou Tutino, WNDU -TV Reporter
Mr. James L. Marchelewicz, WNDU -TV Photographer
Mr. Dan Caesar, WSBT -TV Reporter
Mr. Steve Neher, WSBT -TV Photographer
Mr. Larry Ford, WSJV -TV Reporter
Mr. Bill Cressler, WSJV -TV Photographer
ors Present: Mrs. Janet S. Allen, Interested Citizen
Mr. Gene Evans, Executive Secretary, Civic
Planning Association
Mr. Fred J. Helmen, Honorary Chairman, Redevelopment
Commission, City of South Bend
Mr. John R. Kagel, Executive Director, Downtown
South Bend Council
Mr. Charles F. Lennon, Jr., Executive Director,
Housing Allowance Office, Inc.,
and former Executive Director,
Department of Redevelopment
Mr. William R. Steinmetz, President, St. Joseph River
Bend Development Corporation
Mr. Lloyd S. Taylor, Spokesman, St. Joseph River
Bend Development Corporation
Com unity Mr. Keith P. Crighton Ms. Joan Ragland
Development Mr. J. L. Johnson, Jr. Mr. Kenneth J. Schaller
to
LPA Staff: Mr. C. Wayne Brownell
Ms. Helen S. King
Mr. Edwin R. Bauer
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Wiggins moved for the approval of the Minutes of the Regular MINUTES
Meeting of December 5, 1975, as mailed. Motion was seconded by APPROVED
Mr. Chenney and carried.
3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
Mr. Donaldson moved for the approval of the claims, as submitted, CLAIMS
and that they be allowed and ordered to be paid, totalling: APPROVED
$154,345.11. Motion was seconded by Mr. Chenney and carried.
The authorized claims are:
P.E.A. NDP INDIANA A -10
Dep . of Housing & Urban Development $ 73,561.00
Pro - ect Expenditure Account NDP A -10 4,250.00
Total 77,811.00
P.E.A. INDIANA R -66
Rob art Foegley Landscape $ 6,950.39
Nautilus Construction Company 30,632.04
Total 37,582.43
DISTRICT CAPITAL BONDS OF 1972
South Bend Water Works $ 27.35
Acm2 Air - Filter Service 10.00
Total 37.35
BUREAU OF HOUSING E -7
Arrow Pest Control Co., Inc. (Contract No. 66) $ 60.00
Total 60.00
REDEVELOPMENT REVOLVING FUND
Payroll: November 15, 1975 to November 28, 1975 $ 4,951.91
Indiana & Michigan Electric Company 27.49
NDP A -10 33,545.90
Nor hern Indiana Public Service Co. 17.42
Fis er Paper Company 275.00
Rin Riverside Printing, Inc. 2.50
Sou h Bend Water Works 34.11
Total a�88,854.33
GRAND TOTAL $ 154,345.11
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COMMUNICATIONS
a.1 HUD Area Office letter dated December 4, 1975: This letter, REDEVELOPMENT
over the signature of Mr. Stephen J. Havens, Director, Com- ANNUAL ADMINIS-
munity Planning and Development, advises the Annual Adminis- TRATIVE BUDGET
trative Budget for the City of South Bend, Department of APPROVED
Redevelopment, is approved.
Copies of the executed budget were returned for our files.
Mr. Wiggins moved the above letter be received and placed on
file. Motion seconded by Mr. Chenney and carried.
OLO BUSINESS
a. Report on Plaza Continuation, Project Indiana R -66: Mr. C.
Wayne Brownell, Executive Director, advised this report con-
sists of two letters he has received: One is from The Hickey
Company, Inc., dated December 16, 1975, signed by Mr. G. A.
Hickey, Chairman of the Board, which states:
In accordance with our conversation of December
15, 1975, we will extend our proposal for Contract
No. 10, Parts A and D, dated November 18, 1975,
until February 1, 1976, with no increase in price.
This contract totaled $750,298.00.
If the following items are deducted, the values are
as follows: (Seven (7) items listed in letter with
total deduction, in amount of $59,973.00).
In addition, we would request that the completion
date be adjusted to correspond with any delayed
starting date.
Mr. Brownell advised The Hickey Company is agreeable to the
deductions we have requested.
The other letter is from Robert Foegley Landscape Design
and Contracting, Inc., dated December 16, 1975, signed by
Mr. Foegley, which states:
Per our phone conversation of December 15, 1975,
we agree to the extension of the bid award for the
Pedestrian Way, Phase #3 (Project Ind. R -66) through
January 31, 1975.
It is also understood that the beginning of construc-
tion and the completion dates will also be delayed.
Mr. Brownell stated that both of the above contractors are
the low bidders and they have both agreed to continue the
time for awarding bids to the end of January, 1976. Mr.
Kevin J. Butler, Commission Legal Counsel, advised the dead-
line now is tomorrow, and now are within the time limit of
extending the period to award the bids.
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TIME EXTENSION
APPROVED TO
AWARD BIDS
RECEIVED FOR
PLAZA CONTINU-
ATION, R -66
5. OLDI BUSINESS (Cont' d
The motion was made by Mr. Wiggins to receive the letters from
The Hickey Company, Inc. and Robert Foegley Landscape Design
and Contracting, Inc. (noted above), and to approve their re-
quest for extension of the time in which to award the bids to
February 1, 1976, and to extend the starting dates and the
completion dates correspondingly. The motion was seconded by
Mr. Donaldson and carried.
b. Amendment to Contract with Abstract Company of St. Joseph POST- APPROVAL,
County, Inc.: This is an amendment to the NDP A -10 Project CONTRACT
contract we have for Professional Services with the Abstract AMENDMENT,
Company of St. Joseph County, Inc. and the Department of Re- NDP A -10
development, dated April 6, 1973.
The amendment is to Paragraph 3a(1) of the Contract, and
amended to read as follows:
The Local Public Agency will pay the Contractor
$75.00 for each acquisition parcel upon which a
title policy in the amount of $2,000.00 has
been issued where no prior title evidence is
furnished by the owners.
Dated December 1, 1973, and signed by Mr. Horace B.
Clarke, President, Abstract Company of St. Joseph
County, Inc.
Mr. Brownell explained what happened is that the Abstract
Company increased their price $5.00 and we didn't get the
amendment approved by the Redevelopment Commission, and
this is being requested by the auditors for the close -out
of the NDP Project A -10.
Mr. Wiggins moved for the approval of the above - stated amend-
ment to Contract with Abstract Company of St. Joseph County,
Inc., dated April 6, 1973. Motion was seconded by Mr. Chenney
and carried.
c. (Model and Schematics presented by the St. Joseph River Bend MODEL AND
Development Corporation, on Disposition Parcel No. 6 -1, SCHEMATICS
Project Indiana R -66: The Chair recognized Mr. Lloyd S. PRESENTED
Taylor, spokesman for the St. Joseph River Bend Development FOR BLOCK 6
Corporation, and Mr. William R. Steinmetz, President of the DEVELOPMENT,
Corporation. R -66
Mr. Steinmetz advised they are very pleased to be here and
that their purpose really here this morning is to bring all
the Commissioners up to date, as well as the News Media on
the progress they have been making with Block 6 and the in-
vestor group. Mr. Steinmetz revealed a model of the corpo-
ration's plan for Block 6 near downtown.
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5. OLDIBUSINESS (Cont'd
Mr. Steinmetz advised, parenthetically, there was no secrecy about
the officers and principal stockholders of the St. Joseph River
Bend Development Corporation, but that they were simply not in a
position, until all of the negotiations had been completed, to
make this public, but that they are now in that position and are
happy to do it. Mr. Steinmetz said in addition to himself, as
President of the St. Joseph River Bend Development Corporation,
are: George Herendeen, Vice President; Eugene Muia, Secretary;
Joseph Fragomeni, Treasurer; and the additional investors are:
Richard A. Rosenthal, Duane Bobeck, and Jerry Hammes. Mr.
Steinmetz advised their group has a management contract with
the Real Estate Department of the St. Joseph Bank and Trust
Company, and they will be handling the development and the leas-
ing of this property.
Mr. Taylor gave a brief presentation of the model outlining the
development of Block 6, located alongside the City's Plaza Park,
immediately south of Jefferson Boulevard, from Colfax to Monroe
all the way along the river, with a boat - docking facility, which
is pretty well completed now. Then seven acres from the Grand
Trunk Bridge up to the high - quality restaurant, the site will be
developed as a professional "office park" consisting of eight
to ten, one- and two -story buildings. A site is being reserved
here of about three and one -half to four acres for a major office
structure. However, if this does not come to be, Mr. Taylor said
they will simply extend the office park into that. The others
are a drive -in banking facility, a six- to eight- story, 200 -unit
apartment for the elderly, a convenience center to include a
delicatessen, drug store, cleaners and laundromat, plus parking
suitable to accommodate occupants and visitors.
t is anticipated that the total development costs for the Block
project will be in excess of $14 million now that the plans are
eing formalized and the response from within and outside the
ommunity has been so enthusiastically favorable.
r. Taylor also advised that negotiations are already underway with
wo prospective parties for buildings in the office portion of
lock 6 and bids have been re- submitted to the Department of Housing
Urban Development for the 200 units of Section 8 Elderly Housing
n the two -acre site at the far Southeast end of the property. He
lso said it might be of interest to some here on the Section 8
lderly Housing, which is a Federal program for housing of the
lderly, that HUD did take bids last summer and then rejected all
f those bids. Now, as of December 15th, that project was rebid
nd we have furnished non - exclusive options to six different bidders
n this particular site, and so he believed most of the bids are
ow being concentrated on this site. Mr. Taylor displayed a sche-
atic drawing of one of the bidders proposed development of the
00 -unit elderly housing site. None of the bidders have been
ccepted as yet. This should probably get under construction
ext year, assuming that one of those bids is accepted by the De-
artment of Housing & Urban Development.
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5. OLd BUSINESS (Cont'd
This portion was opened for question and answer session to be
directed to Mr. Taylor or to Mr. Steinmetz for answers:
Ms. Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune reporter, asked if the
branch bank is the first building to be constructed, and Mr.
Taylor advised, "Not necessarily. I don't know which is going
to be the first building to go up. We are presently negotiating
for two (2) offices in the Office Park. The negotiations have gone
to the extent that the buildings are actually under design by archi-
tectural firms within our City, and I don't know who is going to be
the first one to break ground."
Also, Ms. Derbeck asked, "Will those office buildings - -the office
park - -be put up by somebody else ?" Mr. Taylor advised, "Yes. Most
of the construction here will be by other parties associated with
us." As to the bank being designated to be first, Mr. Taylor said,
"We indicated that we will take down the bank parcel, but I just
don't want to comment on when the bank construction might start.
There's a lot of flexibility in that contract. We indicated that
would be one of the first parcels we would take down. Depending on
sales or development agreements within the office park area will
depend on when we take that down. We have to take it down when we
start, or we can take it down sooner. As we start first construc-
tion, we have to take that down."
Mr. Lou Tutino, WNDU -TV Reporter, asked when the landscaping will
be completed. Mr. Taylor advised they will have to integrate, of
course, the landscaping with the development of the individual
parcels, and obviously we are working with different developers
for different buildings within this configuration, and as a building
is completed, the landscaping around that particular building will
be developed. The landscaping cannot be developed until the con-
struction is started.
Commissioner Wiggins said he notices there is indicated a pedestrian
link with the bridge through the project, and at what point will that
be constructed, or will that depend on when they have the office struc-
ture pretty well together? Mr. Taylor indicated on the model where
it is, and showed the area where an easement will be required by
them to be provided, stipulated by the Department of Redevelopment,
from Columbia Street to the Bridge. He said he does not know whether
the Department of Redevelopment intends to pave a walkway there,
or just what the intent is. "It simply indicates the easement
that we have provided for access." Commissioner Wiggins said he was
under the impression, right or wrong, that in the process of this,
there is a certain amount of flexibility as to where that would be
located in order to give them some options in their development,
but that is fairly well nailed down at this point. Mr. Taylor con-
firmed that is pretty well established now, at this point, yes.
As to the landscaping on the Plaza Park, Mr. Taylor said it looks
very nice, and they do anticipate a lot of river traffic to the
restaurant and the other facilities. He also advised another firm
has bought a river boat and plans to make excursions during the
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5. OLDIBUSINESS (Cont'd
summer period down to the dock, which will add a lot to our down-
town area.
6. NEW I BUS INESS
a.
Proclaimer Certificate No. 9, R -66: Authorization was requested
for the Executive Director to execute Proclaimer Certificate No.
9, for the establishment of fair reuse value, for Parcel No. 6 -2,
in the Central Downtown Urban Renewal Project, Indiana R -66.
Mr. Brownell advised Parcel No. 6 -2 is Public, (Green Belt Park),
with 172,684 square feet. John G. Pence Associates, Inc. ap-
praised the parcel at $.91 a square foot, and Forrest W. Eckert
appraised the parcel at $.93 a square foot. We recommend the
LPA Reuse Value at $.93 per square foot. The approximate
Reuse Valuation is: $160,000.00.
Motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and
carried, to authorize the Executive Director to sign the Pro -
claimer Certificate No. 9, proclaiming this value.
Mr. Gene Evans, Executive Secretary, Civic Planning Association,
asked the meaning of the $160,000; if we are going to sell it to
the South Bend Public Park Department; if this is the land on
which the Green Belt is presently being developed; we are in the
position of having already invested some moneys and continuing
to invest something by the City of South Bend, Park Department,
on this land and they do not as yet hold clear title? Answers
summarized, Mr. Brownell advised that we do hope to sell it to
South Bend Public Park Department for $160,000; the Green Belt
and the bridge is being developed on this land; and the land
sale is similar to the land sale we had just deeded to the City
last week on the West side with the fire station built on it,
in our Project NDP A -10, Model Neighborhood No. 1. Mr. Evans
Further asked, "Being all fine, upstanding and honorable gentle -
nen, there's no problem on reaching some kind of a settlement ?"
Ir. Brownell said he didn't believe there would be any problem,
and that we are spending several hundred thousand dollars build-
ing this park and are offering to sell both the land and the park
For $160,000.00, which is quite a bargain for the City really,
ind the Park Department. Commissioner Wiggins added that the price
is determined and there is no bargaining.
rs. Janet S. Allen raised the following questions summarized:
ere there only two appraisals made on that or three; and you
ook the higher of the two; since you are handing it over to
he City more or less and expecting them to put money into it,
by did you take the higher appraisal in this case? Mr. Brownell
dvised two appraisals were made; higher of the two appraisals
as taken; we are spending several hundred thousand dollars build -
ng the park in addition to the land cost, and the reason we have
wo appraisals instead of three is that the Indiana Statute was
hanged. It used to require three; today it only requires two.
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PROCLAIMER
CERTIFICATE
NO. 9,
AUTHORIZED
FOR SIGNA-
TURE, R -66
6. NEW IBUSINESS (Cont'd
Mrs. Allen asked, "In spending the urban redevelopment funds,
under the stature or whatever it was, Urban Redevelopment would
pay the City a certain amount - -a percentage - -in lieu of the
taxes that the City lost from the properties that were torn
down, have you, at any time, ever paid the City any of these ?"
Mr. Brownell answered, "As far as I know, we have not. We have,
however, allowed the City to use our land for parking purposes
and other purposes and let them collect the fees and keep the
fees. It is not the same thing at all; it is probably an off-
set." Commissioner Wiggins added that as a result of the acti-
vities of this Department, the amount of taxable base that has
been generated within this community, has far more than offset
whatever loss there was in terms of taxes on the property pre-
viously. Had it not been for the proposed redevelopment of the
downtown, the developers of the downtown buildings would not
have made that investment.
Mrs. Allen said what she is really asking is if the rules set
down in the Urban Renewal Plan in the first place, if those
rules are being followed, or have been followed? Mr. Lloyd S.
Taylor, asked the Chair if he may respond to that as he is
aware of what Mrs. Allen is referring to, (as a former Executive
Director of the Department of Redevelopment), and that Mrs.
Allen is referring to the R -66 plan and he does not know of any
real deviations from the basic plan. Maybe the basic plan kind
of painted a higher density development of the downtown then
ultimately what we are going to see, but that he thinks that
is just a change of our economic situation. Commissioner
Wiggins stated, "Frankly, what the downtown of South Bend needs
are boosters and positive attitudes. We have been deluded and
beset for years with all kinds of complaints and 'knitpicking'
that have created more problems then they have solved and we
have all the problems we need."
Mrs. Allen said she just wanted to bring this up before Urban
Redevelopment is completely phased out.
b. Quit -Claim Deed, Southeast Neighborhood No. 1, NDP Project A -10:
Authorization was requested for the President and Secretary to
execute the Quit -Claim Deed, in which the City of South Bend,
Indiana, Department of Redevelopment, releases and quit - claims
to the City of South Bend, a Municipal Corporation of the State
f Indiana, for the use and benefit of its Board of Park Com-
issioners, for and in consideration of $37,564.28, for the
eal estate as stated on Exhibit A.
Ir. Brownell advised we had previously deeded by Quit -Claim
)eed, this property to the City for the Park Department, and
.he reason for another deed is that some of the titles were
iot complete at that time and the Quit -Claim Deed didn't
=urnish all of the titles of the real estate in order to make
;hat correction and we had another Quit -Claim Deed prepared,
ind are requesting authorization for execution of that now.
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QUIT -CLAIM
DEED, SE
#1, NDP
PROJECT
A -10
6. NEWIBUSINESS (Cont'd)
c
Motion was made by Mr. Chenney, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and
carried, for the President and Secretary to be authorized to
execute the above - stated Quit -Claim Deed, for the Southeast
Neighborhood No. 1, NDP Project A -10.
Change Order No. 1 to Rehabilitation Contract No. SECD /PR /CS- CHANGE
1/03, E -7: Commission approval was requested for this Change ORDER 1 TO
Order, with the Bailey Electric Company, for an increase in CONTRACT
contract amount of $394.00, (Contract: $5,718.00), or an 1/03, E -7,
amended contract total of: $6,112.00, for rehabilitation work APPROVED
at: 630 East Indiana Avenue, Southeast Project E -7.
The Chair called on Mr. Keith P. Crighton, Director, Bureau of
Housing, to explain this change order. The documentation was
included in the packets.
Mr. Crighton advised the original inspection for this particular
home had included the repair of the first -floor bathroom walls
that was due to water damage. We felt the items, in the amount
of $113.00, should be deleted because there was 7" of rain in
August and the deterioration continued and we decided to request
the following items be added to the change order and repair the
damage to the bathroom walls, which includes removing the plastic
tile, upper congolium, install drywall, and seal, sand, tape,
prime, and paint two coats, using non - porous latex semi -gloss
enamel, and on the ceiling install the drywall, seal, sand
tape, prime and paint with two coats, amounting to $507.00, less
the deletion items amounting to $113.00, or a total increase to
the contract amount of $394.00, for an amended contract total of:
$6,112.00.
Mr. Wiggins moved for the approval of the above Change Order No. 1
to Rehabilitation Contract No. SECD /PR /CS -1/03, for an increase
in contract amount of $394.00, or an amended contract total of:
6,112.00, E -7.
d. IChange Order No. 1 to Rehabilitation Contract No. SECD /PR /CS-
1/04, E -7: Commission approval was requested for this Change
Order, with the Bailey Electric Company, for an increase in
contract amount of $1,054.00, (Contract: $2,405.00), or an
amended contract total of: $3,459.00, for rehabilitation
work at: 608 East Haney Street, Southeast Project E -7.
he Chair again called on Mr. Crighton to respond to the
hange order. The documentation was included in the packets
lso.
1r. Crighton advised at the time of inspection, this furnace was
iot operating because it was during the summer. His staff had no
indication of what condition the furnace was in, although it was
)ld, so our specification merely stated that this furnace was to
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CHANGE
ORDER 1 TO
CONTRACT
1/04, E -7,
APPROVED
6. NEWT
BUSINESS (Cont'd
be checked and any defective parts were to be replaced. Since
the contract has been awarded, (I might add this change order
was expected.), the contractor's heating subcontractor re-
commended this unit be replaced. The furnace is a cast iron
coal unit that was converted to oil, and, subsequently, con-
verted to gas. It is rather old and inefficient unit. It is
also leaking fumes and it would cost as much money to tear
it apart and repair as it is to replace the furnace.
Mr. Wiggins moved for the approval of the above Change Order
No. 1 to Rehabilitation Contract No. SECD /PR /CS -1/04, for an
increase in contract amount of $1,054.00, or an amended contract
total of: $3,459.00. Seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried.
Commissioner Chenney asked who makes the inspections in the first
place; who made it on this one? Mr. Crighton advised, as he
had said, our inspectors made the inspection during the summer;
the furnace was not operating at the time, and we have no capacity
to pay for a heating man to go out and inspect the furnace. Be-
cause we are relying on our staff, the specification merely said
the furnace was to be inspected after the contract was awarded
and the furnace was to be operable. Commissioner Chenney stated
that all his inspector had to do in the first place in the summer
time is to turn on the gas and he would have found out that the
furnace was no good then. Mr. Crighton advised that our staff
has no capacity to say that, because our inspectors are not pro-
fessional heating contractors, so, therefore, when we add it to
the contract, we state that we recommend the furnace be checked
and replace any defective parts.
Ir. Gene Evans, Executive Secretary,Civic Planning Association,
inquired if the 140,000 BTU furnace is a standard size, and if
that is specified on all of our furnaces for the heating in BTU.
That this particular change order and the next call for 140,000
3TU furnace with a slight difference in price. He asked what
the size of the house is. Mr. Crighton replied the structure is
44 x 21, with five rooms, one bath, two bedrooms. Commissioner
Huggins advised some factors enter into this and that it is not
just the size of the furnace, but the connections to the furnace- -
Doth hot air and cold air ducts - -could cause some variance in
the prices, depending on how much duct work is involved.
r. Wiggins again moved for the approval of the above Change
rder, seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried.
e. Change Order No.lto Rehabilitation Contract No. SECD /PR /CS-
1/08, E -7: Commission approval was requested for this Change
Order, with the Bailey Electric Company, for an increase in con-
tract amount of $1,072.00, (Contract: $3,187.00), or an
amended contract total of: $4,259.00, for rehabilitation work
at: 310 East Sample Street, Southeast Project E -7.
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CHANGE
ORDER 1 TO
CONTRACT
1/08, E -7,
APPROVED
6. NEWIBUSINESS (Cont'd
The Chair again referred the comments to Mr. Crighton, who stated
this furnace, at this structure, was working at the time the
house was inspected and since then, during the construction in
the performance of the contract, the furnace is no longer oper-
ating. In situations like this, Mr. Crighton stated, we request
a change order. The furnace that the homeowner had was in-
stalled in 1947 and it had been converted.
Mr. Wiggins moved for the approval of the above Change Order No. 1
to Rehabilitation Contract No. SECD /PR /CS -1/08, for an increase in
contract amount of $1,072.00, or an amended contract total of:
$4,259.00. Motion was seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried.
Ms. Jeanne Derbeck, South Bend Tribune Reporter, stated that over
and over again, we get these change orders, and "I can see why
they arrive, but my question is, with some of these really old
houses that are in bad shape like this, if there is not a point
at which there is a cut -off point of how much money ought to be
put into them. When you don't know before you start how much
money is going into it, you can - -with these thousands of dollars- -
be trapped into spending more money than the house is worth."
President Nimtz said there is another side of the picture, and
that he, as President of Southhold Restorations, and as an
owner of a house in which he was born in some 60 years ago,
and an entrepreneur owning some places around here, that once
you tear a house down, it is hard to get somebody to put money
into it to build a new structure there. If part of the plan here
is to keep neighborhoods in existence and not just to have vacant
spaces, this is one of the prices you have to pay to keep neighbor-
hoods in existence without a lot of vacant space in them.
Ms. Derbeck said the historical old houses are different and some
old houses may be reconditioned, but some of these old houses in
the southeast neighborhood, if we are not just throwing away money
just for a year or two. Commissioner Wiggins said this work is sup-
posed to bring the house up to standard that is established by the
City for safe and standard housing which would put it on some kind
of an equivalent basis with new construction in part. The price
for any kind of new housing today, I would guess would be in the
neighborhood of $29,000. To buy or build an equivalent space
at current market prices is absolutely prohibitive. This is the
best bargain in the world to repair a lot of these older homes
rather than have them demolished and gone, and the necessity exists
then to create new equivalent space for people to live in. One
of the problems we have discovered is that it was even difficult
to get contractors to do this type of repairs. You are not sure
what you will get into, until the work is started; no one can tell
what is behind that surface until they get into it. There are
people who can't afford to even keep up the structures that they
have; they ought to have that kind of an alternative. There's
no incentive here really for people to maintain them, and there
6. NEW
BUSINESS (Cont'd
are people who have really let these things go down, and seem to
learn nothing from their experiences. Seems kind of sad, really!
Mr. Crighton said, "As far as the City's overall neighborhood re-
habilitation task for old neighborhoods is: when is the cutoff
point; when do you decide whether it is worth it to rehabilitate
this house, or to leave it as it is, because that is exactly what
we have to do. If we don't put the money into it, we have to
leave the house as it stands. If we rehabilitate all the houses
surrounding it, and this one house stands as an eye sore, then
it's a health and safety problem. We have no available reloca-
tion money; we have no capacity to relocate people from houses
that take over our limitation, let's say. So, it's our point
of view that rehabilitation is far more feasible than going
through - -if we did have relocation money and did massive relo-
cation, or just leaving the person in the home. As far as these
change orders are concerned, at the time of inspection when we
look at a house, our inspectors write up everything as it exists.
If we have to cut it because we feel that the item isn't serious
enough, then we do. If the item may get serious over a two -month
period from the time we advertise for it and from the time the
actual work starts, so the reason we have these continuous change
orders presented to you (the Commission) is the fact we want to keep
all the money involved in this project completely above board. We
don't want to add an item to an inspection that may not be a bona
fide code violation at the time, because then we would be criticized
for adding unnecessary things to the contracts."
Commissioner Wiggins added, "I think you have to recognize that this
is all a part of the piece - -that there are sociological factors;
there are economic factors involved in the whole thing. In short,
you can find neighborhoods comprised of old structures far older
in many cases in other sections of the country than we have here.
4here the houses have been maintained for over a period of 100 -200
years or more, but this is a question of both the understanding of
the people who live in them and their economic capacity to maintain
and keep up the buildings; the desire to do it is part of it; the
<nowledge of it is part of it. All of these enter into the picture.
Jess Dickinson went through a lot of that with some of his experiences
in terms of public housing in their lease program. Putting families
in one house after another and the family just tore up the house.
Vow, this wasn't a question of the building falling down because of
the elements. There is a question of people not only not maintain-
ing the building, but in some cases being destructive."
1r. John Kagel, Executive Director, Downtown South Bend Council,
idded: "Being a proponent of in -City living, as a tax base and all
;he other things that go along with the amenities of living in a
:ommunity, we have discussed the point of who lives in these houses,
ind I think one of the very serious problems, and I am involved with
i neighborhood group myself, in the ownership of that property --
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6. NEW
BUSINESS (Cont'd)
the person who owns that property - -has a responsibility more so
than the people who live in that property. Now, there are some
owners of these properties that couldn't care less, could care
less about who is living in the property, could care less about
the neighborhood, could care less about the City of South Bend.
I don't know how this is going to be corrected, but I do have
this compliment to pay the incoming Mayor: The previous ad-
ministration has done everything that they could do through
these various programs, but the incoming Mayor says we are
going to try to make the City livable, and I think that we
have to look for those owners of those properties that are
responsible for some of the social problems that we have.
How are you going to work hand -in -hand, I don't know. Keith
Crighton is doing an excellent job, but how do you get to these
people? How do you, through friendly persuasion, get that ab-
sentee property owner to try to do something about the problems.
Now, I agree, one property can take the whole City block. In a
natter of five years, it can go down hill."
Mrs. Allen referred to Item 6c on the Agenda and discussed above:
The contract is increased from $5,718.00 now to $6,112.00. She
said she understands that anything over $5,000 has to go before
the Council, so that no doubt we have received approval from the
Council. Now with the amended contract - -like $394.00 here and
in some cases it is $1,000 more added to the contract, does that
then go back to the Council for further approval? Mr. Butler
advised that it does not. That basically, they have had discussion
with the Council and they have indicated that their initial approval
is sufficient. Mrs. Allen said the Council could approve a
contract for over $5,000 and we could then put $10,000 into it,
and Mr. Butler advised that, "Theoretically, yes; although the
Commission would not do it, I am sure - -not another $5,000."
7. PROGIRESS REPORTS
Nonel submitted.
8. NEXTICOMMISSION MEETING
The Chair announced that the next Commission meeting will be the ANNUAL
Annual Organizational Meeting, Friday, January 2, 1976, at 10:00 ORGANIZA-
a.m., and immediately following the Organizational Meeting will be TIONAL MTG.,
the Commissioners' Regular Meeting for the 1st Friday of the month, 1 -2 -76 &
January 2, 1976. REGULAR MTG.
9. RESOLUTION NO. 519 FROM REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS
The hair recognized Commissioner Wiggins, who read the following
Reso ution, commending Commissioner Chenney for his services:
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RESOLUTION
NO. 519
9. REJOLUTION NO. 519 FROM REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS (Cont'd
R E S O L U T 1 0 N N 0. 5 1 9
HUH ER EAS:
The Wto)Ly o4 zign-i4.icant community pugtas in
thus guat City o4 South fiend, Indiana, ha6 tong been
maAked by the unze 6i6h contribution o6 time and tatent
by an abte and 6oxtWght citizen, and
HUH ER EAS:
Such e66oAts have not atways met with univeuat
acclaim, yet he has continued to pAess on and has given
4Aeety o4 h" best e�4otcts to build a betteA Aeatity
4oA his 6eUow townsmen, and
W ER EAS:
A4ta many yewLz o4 toyat seAvice, he hay, etected
to bAting to a cto s e his teAm o4 Vice P,%a i.den t o4 this
Body,
N 0 W, T H E R E F O R E, B E I T R E S O L V E D:
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That the South Bend Redevelopment Commi66.%on
commends ....... J 0 H N E. C H E N N E V .......
4oA hips ou t,5tanding pubt i.c s eAv.ice and devotion to duty
and 4utrtheA commends him 4oA hiz .inteAmt and e44o&a
that have afteady improved the quality o4 t.i4e 4oA
South Bend and all o4 .cis citizens.
IN TESTIMONY W H E R E 0 F:
The South Bend Redevelopment Commizsion, in meet -
ing az .6embted on thus 17th day o6 DecembeA, 1975, hay
adopted thus Ruotution and a66ixed .its sign and seat.
CITY OF SOUTH BEND
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS
/,5/ F. Jay N-cmtz /,S/ A. PeteA Donatds on
F. Jay Nimtz, A. PeteA Donatd6on
PAe,sident kssiztant SecfcetoAy
/,6/ Donald A. W�ggins
only -W ggtns,
SectrttaAy
(SEAL)
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A/ Robat J. Cdvc.a
Ro ent J. Ci a.
MembeA
9. RESOLUTION NO. 519 FROM REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS (Cont'd
Mr. Wiggins moved for the adoption of Resolution No. 519, seconded
by r. Donaldson, and carried unanimously.
Ms.
and
The
Derbeck asked how long Mr. Chenney has been on the Commission,
Mr. Chenney answered, "A little over eight (8) years."
Chair said to Mr. Chenney:
Jack:
We oAe going to miss you. you horsed a .Cot o6 quat on5
and you made these meetings v etc y inteAe.5ting .
We know that you cite tcetitc,ing vofuntatzity and you want to
spend matte time in doing some otheA the ng�s you want to do --
tAav et, etc.
We wi,5h you good h w-tth and happinez,5. We cute going to
mi.5,s you heAe. And, tike Pled Hetmen, you ane a&ay6
weecome, Jack, wheneveA you want to come up hetLe.
The Boated o6 Ttcubteeb at the-it Annuat Meeting pa,5.5 ed a
Raotut%on kecognizing youtc seAvice and commending you
bon youA s eAvices . This Ra otutio n iz now apptcop)uct te,2 y
6tcamed and wrapped " a Chtu�stmat5 pAment. It Z5 beauti6uf.
I . -ooked at it yate)Lday. We wiU have the above Commissioners
Raotution 4kamed aLo and witt present it to you when it iz
heady.
I hope this witt ttecaU many happy expo ences that you had with
u,s. I know it witt necaU some atcguments you had in this Body,
but I know that your. ze)tvicea have been recognized by the City
and it hays been wo&thwhiie.
Comrissioner Chenney thanked the Commissioners and said:
1 5uAe have enjoyed being a membeA o6 this Commission, and 1
,u,%Q,P. mizz evetcybody, inc ending the Comm,izz ioneAz and the sta66,
and I hope you aU have cus good a 6utuAe as I have had in the
U,s-t eight yeatu5.
thank eveAybody, and e�speciaUy the Ptustees 6oA this 6,t_amed
motution, and I wiU hang tha in an apptcoptu.ate p.P_ace at
I said, I wiU miz,5 you aU.
10. ADJOIURNMENT
Motion for adjournment ofthe meeting was made by Mr. Wiggins, ADJOURNMENT
seconded by Mr. Donaldson and carried, at 10:48 a.m., with every-
one being invited to stay for coffee and cake in honor of Commis-
sioner Chenney.
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