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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-13-18 Health and Public Safety �Y�EACE .a x x OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK KAREEMAH FOWLER, CiTy CLERK HEALTH& PUBLIC SAFETY AUGUST 13, 2018 4:31 P.M. Committee Members Present: Jo M. Broden, John Voorde, Karen White, Oliver Davis Committee Members Absent: None Other Council Present: Tim Scott, Jake Teshka, Gavin Ferlic, Regina Williams- Preston, Sharon L. McBride Other Council Absent: None Others Present: Kareemah Fowler, Graham Sparks, Bob Palmer, Gabriel Murei, Elivet Navarro Presenters: Agenda: Update- Westside Quiet Zone, Eric Horvath& Tera Weigand, Public Works Update- Homelessness Plan, James Mueller, Community Investment Committee Chair Jo M. Broden called to order the Health and Public Safety Committee meeting at 4:31 p.m. She introduced members of the Committee and proceeded to give the floor to the presenters. Update-Westside Quiet Zone,Eric Horvath & Tera Weigand,Public Works Eric Horvath,Director of Public Works with offices on the 13th floor of the County-City Building, stated, Along with me is one (1) of our Project Engineers who is the Project Engineer on the West Side Quiet Zone project. She will do the presentation. Tara Weigand,Project Engineer with offices on the 13th floor of the County-City Building, stated, This map (referencing a slide of a presentation which is available in the City Clerk's Office)just has the project locations. There are actually three(3)quiet zones within the West Side Quiet Zone. To the east is the East Side Quiet Zone and between that are all grade-separated crossings where there are currently no train horns sounding. So by establishing these quiet zones, we would essentially have a quiet zone throughout the entire City. These three (3) quiet zones encompass three (3) different railroad companies. They are Norfolk Southern which is in the blue, Canadian National in the yellow and NICTD in the red. We are working with our consulting engineer to go through this process, develop design concepts and coordinate with the Federal Railroad Administration and the railroad companies. INTEGRITY1 SERVICE1 ACCESSIBILITY JENNIFER M.COFFMAN BIANCA L.T IRADO JOSEPH R MOINAR CHIEF DEPUTY/DIREcrrOR OF OPERATIONS DEPuTy/DIREOFOR OF Poucv ORDINANCE VIOLATION CLERK EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 1 227 W.Jefferson Blvd.I South Bend,Indiana 466011 p 574.235.92211 f 574.235.9173 1 www.southbendin.gov CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK She continued, So, thus far, we've been working on those concepts and the risk analysis to see what types of safety improvements are needing to be installed in order to establish quiet zones in these three (3) corridors. To define what a quiet zone is, it is a segment of rail line within consecutive public highway rail-grade crossings where locomotive horns are not routinely sounded. To do this,you basically need to install enough safety measures to make up for the sound of the train horn. So that is the objective of this project. The first (1St) step is identifying the crossings which were shown in the previous slide. We need to update the crossing inventory for each,which we have done up to this point with our consulting.We then need to determine tentative plans for safety improvements. We have also done that already. Following that, we had to hold a diagnostic review meeting with the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) where they could provide comments on our plans and additional safety measures they feel would be appropriate at those crossings. After that, we will need to provide a notice of intent to the railroads and State. This is the step we are currently at and that has a sixty (60) day comment period by the FRA and also the railroads where they can give additional comments on safety measures. She went on, There are some prescribed safety measures that the FRA finds. If we use those, it is a much quicker process. Sometimes there are some alternatives that need to be used in case of certain road geometries. That requires an application to the FRA which can take three (3) to four (4) months to review. There is at least one (1) corridor where we will probably have to do that which is the NICTD Corridor. Following that, we will install the safety measures and any other required improvements determined by the diagnostic team. We would then issue a notice of quiet zone establishment and then wait twenty(20)days after we mail that to actually establish the quiet zone. All that being said, I will go through each of the corridors to give a brief summary of what we will be expecting to be the improvements,the timeline and the cost. She continued, So the Norfolk Southern Corridor, which is from Grandview Avenue to Olive Street,we are estimating the improvements will cost around$120,000.We would look to construct this fall and this winter. The quiet zone would then be established in early 2019. What we will be doing at all of these crossings is installing all the required warning signs,pavement markings, and a mountable median north and south of the Olive Street crossing.There are just a couple of pictures of the proposed improvements (referencing a slide in the presentation). She went on, The improvements at the Olive Street crossing include mountable medians north and south of the crossing. That keeps cars from trying to go around the gates. There would also be pavement markings and warning signs at this crossing. We won't have to do any significant improvements there because there is currently a four(4) quadrant gate. We would just be keeping that and installing pavement markings and advanced warning signs. Grandview Avenue,there are actually two (2)train tracks. The southern one (1) is the Norfolk Southern one (1). It is not shown in this picture but we would be looking to install a mountable median south of that track. That would potentially require closing off part of the roadway to the west there. Again, there will also be pavement markings and signs. The Canadian National Grand Trunk Western Corridor, we estimate that cost to be around $300,000. Construction will be in the spring and summer of 2019 and it will be established in the late summer of 2019. This requires a little bit more work. In addition to the warning signs and the pavement markings, there are also bells that will need to be installed at each of the crossings. That is a basic requirement for quiet zones. We would also be installing mountable medians at both of the crossings here. There are potential sidewalk improvements pending feedback from the diagnostic team. EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 1 227 W.Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 466011 p 574.235.9221 If 574.235.9173 I TTD 574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 2 CITY OF SOUTH BEND OFFICE OF THE CLERK She continued,Finally,the NICTD Corridor is estimated to cost around$50,000. The construction will begin the summer and fall of 2019 and the establishment will be made in the fall of 2019. This one (1) is the one (1)that requires the ASM which is the longer application process which is why it will take a little bit longer. This will include a mountable median to the north of the crossing as well as the signs and pavement markings. Committeemember Oliver Davis asked,Have you already had that review meeting with the FRA? Ms. Weigand replied, Yes, we have. Committeemember Davis followed up, Do you have any key results that you could send to us regarding that? Ms. Weigand replied, I have meeting minutes but we are working on a report for that. It will probably be completed in the next few weeks,hopefully. Committeemember Davis stated, I'm at peace. Thank you for that. Once you get that in, I would like to review that myself and be included in that. I also want to clarify the times for the quiet zones start at what and end at what? Ms. Weigand replied, It would be a twenty-four (24) hour silencing. They would only sound the horns if there were any kind of emergency. Committee Chair Broden stated, Thank you for your presentation. We very much appreciate it. If anything changes going forward,please communicate that to Council. Update-Homelessness Plan,James Mueller, Community Investment James Mueller, Executive Director of Community Investment with offices on the 14'h floor of the County-City Building, stated, I appreciate the opportunity to be here this afternoon to discuss a challenging issue our community faces and provide an update on how we are trying to implement solutions to our chronic homelessness challenge. We hope to receive feedback on how to best address this issue. He handed out hard copies of the presentation which are available in the City Clerk's Office. He continued, The outline of the update includes a quick review of the working group recommendations, an update on the two (2) core pieces of those recommendations and will conclude with next steps. The working group's recommendations were two (2)-pronged in its approach. The goal, long term, is to get the chronically homeless population off the streets and into scattered site housing that is shared across the community. The long-term plan is permanent supportive housing that is scattered across the community. The other core piece of the recommendations was to get them there by constructing an Intake Center of about thirty(30)units to take them out of the severely difficult situation so that they are able to get connected with services to succeed. The need was estimated at about fifty (50) permanent supportive housing units. I know that has been a subject of debate but, when we get to the cost, you will see we are trying to ramp that up as best we can. Running fifty (50) permanent supportive housing units at roughly $13,000 per year would cost about$650,000 per year, for that piece. EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building',227W Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 466011 p 574.235.9221 lf574.235.9173 TTD574.235.55671www.southbendin.gov 3 CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK He went on, The Intake Center was budgeted in our Redevelopment Commission meeting to be roughly $1.4 million in capital expenses and then annual operations being roughly $260,000. The recommendations also included site selection criteria. The first(1St)among them is the convenient access to existing homeless services such as Hope Ministries, Center for the Homeless, Lady of the Road, Project Homecoming, Life Treatment Center, etcetera. Located near public amenities, convenient to bus services and other transit, if possible, appropriate distance relative to schools and youth programs, designed to provide a sense of community and connection with the City, flexible for the evolution of services to meet need, access to nearby public space, if possible green space, limited proximity to landowners strongly adverse to the center, and limited alternative development potential. In the report,those suggestions were listed in the order of importance. He continued,So first,(1S),starting with where we were in the 2018 budget,combining the Federal Funds, CDBG and Civil City Funds, we budgeted $230,000. That would support an additional thirteen (13) units. The Center for the Homeless Works to get direct HUD funding for units and they're estimated to support fourteen (14) units which, in the past they have had ten (10), so that is an increase of four(4) units there. Combined, we would have twenty-seven (27) total units and that is an increase of seventeen (17). With the pending Federal Funds reception as they tend to come later in the year, we look to be moving forward with that plan. He went on, In between the working group recommendations and where we are today, an opportunity became available to potentially get some cost savings. Ivy Tech approached the City with their portable classroom buildings that had been on their campus for a number of years. We entered into a donation agreement to move them from the site on the Ivy Tech property over to a site owned by the Redevelopment Commission located on Michigan. This (referencing a slide in the presentation) is a rendering that, if they were constructed to be used, there would be improvements and that is what the Redevelopment dollars would go toward. There would have to be facilities with utilities on site, as well. He continued,Here is an overview of a map of what we are looking at currently.The stars represent key services for the homeless population. The shaded areas represent some of areas we have been looking at. Some include existing buildings and others are vacant lots. Going off of the number one (1) criteria coming from the working group being a proximity to services, you can see we are trying to look at every potential site in that area. Some of these have already started to drop off for various reasons. One (1) of the suggestions from the neighbors was the Salvation Army Building. We had approached the Salvation Army and they are not interested in partnering with us on the long-term. We have also approached the County and they have other plans for parcel H. Parcel C is getting farther away from those services and also it does not seem like a good fit. Parcel E is too small as well. There are a lot of potential sites we are looking at on basic feasibility. Is it big enough? Will it do the job? Does Hope Ministries think it is a good fit? They are still trying to figure out the basic feasibility. He went on, We then get to how we come together as a community to figure out what the best site will be. When we get the final list of feasible sites, our intention is to engage neighborhood associations and other neighbors such as businesses, land owners and also Council Members to get everyone's thoughts on what the best spot will be.There is potential for creating a site selection working group. If that happens, that will certainly slow down progress in terms of getting a selection but it may be a potential step if there is interest in doing that. And then, some of the EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 1227 W.Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 46601 i p 574.235.9221 If 574.235.9173 1 TTD574.235.5567 I www.southbendin.gov 4 ®CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK comments that we have received have been in regards to the notion that it should be close to other services. That would probably involve reopening the original working group document because that was a number one (1) priority. That document represented what the best practices were nationally and so we have to see how important that is. It would be an even longer process if we open that back up. He continued, We are hoping to have a long engagement process to be sure we get the right decision, and also want to say that if we converge on a final site, there are a lot of steps we will have to take to make it happen. There will likely need to be some sort of zoning variance or special exception and that would go through these public processes. If the property is not owned by the City,we would have to close on a lease of purchase and that would go through the Board of Public Works or potentially the Redevelopment Commission. We need to go through the Board of Public Works to get approved contracts for architectural plans and design, also engineers and the movement of the housing units itself. We would need to get local and State building permits approved and then look at getting the necessary infrastructure and utility connections. He went on, So the next steps on the Intake Center reveal we are not as far along as we had hoped to be. Winter is coming soon and so we are working to find a weather amnesty for this winter. We have some potential sites but we hope to make progress quickly in the next few weeks before the weather turns. We will continue evaluating the feasibility of all the sites in the area and we look forward to finding the right engagement process to come together as a community to get this right for the homeless. Committee Chair Broden then opened the floor to questions and comments from Committee and Council Members. Committeemember Davis stated, Thank you for your presentation. First (1'� of all, regarding the document here, is there any way the community members out here today can have access to the same thing you are referencing? Mr. Mueller replied, The PowerPoint? Sure, that is available for anyone. We can put it up on the website. Committeemember Davis followed up, My last comments I would like to share at this time, I would like to have at least ten (10) minutes to hear from members of the public. I defer my comments. Committee Chair Broden then opened the floor to members of the public wishing to be heard. Patrick Shelton, 1624 S. Scott Street, stated, I'm the president of the Rum Village Neighborhood Association and I currently live in the house I grew up in on Scott Street by choice. I decided to stay in the neighborhood. I've seen it change considerably over the years. We live in a neighborhood that has changed as there are a lot of rentals,there have been some demolitions and not a lot of new construction, but we want to make sure we don't become an area where all the resources for the homeless come. Homelessness is a community issue and we just want to make sure all other areas are considered. The Oliver Apartments are nice but what has happened is this. We didn't have any prostitutes walking down Indiana Avenue until the apartments were put up. We didn't have people standing on corners with signs until the apartments came. So what I'm EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building j 227W Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 466011 p 574.235.9221 If 574.235.9173 1 TTD574.235.5567 wwvw.southbendin.gov 5 ®CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK saying is that when you change the complexion of an area it brings friends and we are just concerned about that. We are homeowners and we want to stay there. There are children moving in and we just want to make sure it is safe. John Shafer, 402 Bison Ridge, Nappanee, Indiana, stated, I am a homeless advocate and the Director of Michiana Five (5) for the Homeless. I really do hope that by winter, the community and the City can bring back weather amnesty because it is vital to the community. However, we have a lot of homeless right now that are on the streets. Individuals, a lot of females, couples and married families with children that I get calls about every day. The Center for the Homeless is full, Faith Mission in Elkhart is full, and there is nowhere for them to go. Obviously that is a big problem and it is a need that should be addressed. When it comes to weather amnesty this winter, as an advocate, I am very concerned that we currently stand at around fifty (50) beds that we lost through the Life Treatment Center and through the Kratz Building. So whatever we come up with has to at least replace that to be back to square one (1)where we were last winter. Last winter,the Life Treatment Center saw such an increase in homeless women that they had to put on extra staff just to supervise them over night. They were running out of space. If you are a female and are homeless, you are very vulnerable at night living on the street with a lot of men. We should do something to protect them but for all homeless, in general. We have advocated for many years for a bed for every homeless person. We are not there yet but I hope we will be. I believe as a community our goal is a bed for every homeless person not just during weather amnesty but all year around. Thank you. Patti Huettl, 1525 Webster Street, stated, I am the treasurer for the Rum Village Neighborhood Association. I think you all have a letter that I wrote on behalf of the people at Rum Village. The people at Rum Village are very concerned about the article that was in the paper about the possibility of the housing units going in close in proximity to Ignition Park. That is right across the street from the Oliver Apartments. I just wanted to say that we need to really look at the concerns of the neighbors in the neighborhood. I would like to suggest that maybe representatives from each neighborhood in consideration for these units should sit on the committee to help determine the best place for these units. The only way you will learn how the neighbors feel is not by me coming here to make a two(2)minute statement but rather coming out to the neighborhood. Harry Marsh, 1520 S. Carroll Street, stated,You've probably seen me here before and I don't want to repeat everything that's already been said because I think you already understand where our feelings are there. But at the same time I do want you to understand that this is a community problem and because it is a community problem it needs to be spread out over the community. I don't want those trailers in just one(1)neighborhood but at the same time I don't want to see those trailers in our neighborhood. We have a lot of the services in our neighborhood. What I see happening is that if those pods need to be close to the services that means they are left on the Southeast Side again. There goes more problems for the Southeast Side. If nobody else cares about what is happening on the Southeast Side, I do. I'm a lifelong resident of Carroll Street. I grew up there and I'm still there because I want to be there. I would appreciate the trailers to be spread over the community. Let us all share in the burden of housing the homeless and not just one (1) neighborhood. Isaac Hunt, 138 E. Broadway Street, stated, I was off for two (2) weeks on vacation so I just sat around the house. I stayed right there and I am on the same block as the Life Treatment Center. I literally took a whole week and everybody would be congregating by the liquor store and offered EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 227 W.Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 46601 J p 574.235.9221 If 574.235.9173 I TTD 574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 6 •CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK all of them a job. I literally offered them a referral form and even gave bus passes to have them come down to Goodwill, get a job, training and all that type of stuff. I even asked them about whether they had substance abuse problems. I guaranteed that I could get them in a substance abuse treatment right now. I got two (2)people. While I was down there, there were selling drugs to them. Drunk girls,under age seventeen (17),prostituting. So the things that are going on, when you see them hang out in that area, it is a common nuisance. I am for helping the homeless. When we are saying not in our community we are not saying not in our community we are saying not just in our community. They need to be in all of our communities. When we talk about social services, I work in social services. We say a proximity to social services, that is always a good idea. But there is more than one (1) way to skin a horse. Bus tokens, I will give bus tokens to people to be able to get to a job. I've talked to four (4) or five (5) different social services today who said that they would donate bus token services. So having a proximity is not the problem. When I'm sitting on my porch and I got people throwing bottles and cutting through my yard and I'm looking at it for two (2) weeks, you cannot tell me there is not a problem. There are so many problems. And now when we talk about the gateway to the City of South Bend, and this is the first thing they see? They need help. They need job training, they need substance abuse treatment and they need housing. Let's think outside of the box to solve this issue while we also help the residents. Because if they move it over in our'area, I promise you, I'm selling my house and I'm moving because we have enough there. We can't have it all in one(1)neighborhood. Let's spread the wealth around. Any time I say let's put it by Notre Dame people get hesitant. But why not? They have plenty of resources. Council President Tim Scott interjected, I would cut it off. Committee Chair Broden replied,No why is that? Why are we crammed for time? Council President Scott replied, Because we have interviews and other items of business to get to. Committeemember Davis interjected, We have three (3) people here that we said we are going to hear from. This is my district and the people need to be heard. Mr. President,if they were from the first(ls) district, I wouldn't cut them off. Council President Scott interjected, It isn't about district. We are up against our time, Oliver. Commiteemember Davis interjected, Well then we can delay our other meetings. Let's do that please. Thank you. We said we were going to have the people here to speak, we need to have the people here to speak. Council President Scott replied, We are not making a decision on anything. Committeemember Davis interjected, Well because of the fact that with all of the things, you would not do that to other Committee Chairs but you do it to Councilmember Broden. I think that is wrong and let's continue to have it here. Council President Scott stated,No because we are. Commmitteemember Davis interrupted,No, no, no. EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building'227W.Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 466011 p 574.235.9221 If 574.235.9173 TTD574.235.55671www.southbendin.gov 7 ®CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK Council President Scott stated, Go ahead, you guys talk. Clerk Fowler, please tell the interviews we are not doing it and they will have to come back again some other time. We don't have time. Committeemember Davis interjected, Fine. This is more important. Henry Miller, 229 E. Broadway Street, stated, I'm not appalled at the fact that the City is taking steps to develop a plan to help the homeless but I am appalled at the fact that they want to do it to convenience people that are not being productive in society at the inconvenience for the people that are. That is my issue. Another issue I have is we have all these services in one (1) particular area. You have the Life Treatment Center, the Blood Bank, Center for the Homeless and all these services in one (1) area but none of them are working together and they have nothing to gauge their effectiveness. What we have is a perpetual problem that will not go away. I'm with Isaac. I would be willing to give it all up. It ain't even worth paying taxes in South Bend or St. Joseph County if this is the response we will get. If you are just going to bombard this neighborhood with services, that is just problematic for me. We shouldn't be thinking about convenience when we don't think about the cost of inconvenience, especially those whom are productive and taxpaying citizens. Tracy Miller, 229 E. Broadway Street, stated, I think we need to go back to the drawing board when it comes to the criteria. They have a committee of people that have decided that this is the reason the pods need to be in a particular area. One (1) of the criteria was because they need to be in that area where all the services are. We know there's everything because people were living under the bridge where all the services are. They did not take advantage of those services. The pods on Michigan Street will not solve the problem. Then what do we do when the pods become full and they start living under the bridge again. The reason a lot of these people are not using the facilities and resources available to them such as the Center for the Homeless is because they don't want to be accountable to the rules and regulations that are required of them in order to get help. They have other underlying problems such as the opioid crisis. I walk down my street and I see people sitting on the sidewalk drooling and they cannot move. I drive down my alley to get into my driveway and I ask people to move along,they can't even get up to move. We have a store that burned down a few blocks over from Broadway and now they've set up tents. Somebody supplied tents for them to set up. That can be a very dangerous situation for somebody in the City. I think the whole criteria is wrong. We are trying to put a Band-Aid on something that is going to kill the whole community. Putting pods in that area is not going to solve the homeless problem. These people that are using the facilities such as the Broadway Street Ministry and things like that, they need to be accessed. The community organizations need to come together, link together, and they need to have Oaklawn there to see why people have been continuing to eat somewhere for three (3) years. If I'm continuing to feed somebody for three (3) years, I am not helping them I am disabling them. We need some other people at the table such as the community leaders like Mr. Oliver,such as the people,the stakeholders in the community,myself and some of the other people who spoke and that are paying taxes. Because what is going to happen is, our South Side has become a waste land. If you drive down South Michigan Street any time of the day, they are just sitting there looking like zombies. We can't even use the businesses in that area because we get people panhandling when we go in. I had to apply for a gun permit because I'm afraid to go into my own neighborhood. Thank you. Reverend Charles Zawistowski, 1601 W. Sample Street, stated, I'm a priest, but I can be brief. EXCELLENCE , ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 1227 W.Jefferson Bvld ISouth Bend,Indiana 46601 p 574.235.9221 l f574.235.9173 I TM574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 8 ®CITY OF SOUTH BEND I OFFICE OF THE CLERK Committee Chair Broden interjected, These will be the last two (2) speakers. Reverend Zawitowski continued, I know we want to meet certain timelines but I think it is more important to take our time and do something right. We do need a City-wide strategy so that we can start actually dealing with the problem and not slapping something together. I know we say what we want to do and that we are going to provide services. We have a track record already with the Oliver Apartments. We were told there would be wrap-around services and there are not. Sixteen (16) hours a day, the residents that are there that are all officially designated as mentally ill are unsupervised. They don't even have a staff person there. Sixteen(16)hours a day. You have drugs being delivered to the facility and I think the Police and Fire Departments would verify that they are there almost every day. If we can't get that right, how are we going to get something like this right? Let's take our time and let's do it right. Charlotte Pfeifer, 1013 W. Washington Street, stated, I am here this evening representing 466Works.466Works is a neighborhood development corporation in that area of the near southeast side. We have built two (2) new homes there and I hope you will come by to look at them. We support all of the neighbors there, both homeowners and those who are less fortunate. A couple things haven't been said tonight. We did neighborhood meetings and some of the wounds of that neighborhood includes the fact that communities like La Porte, Elkhart and Mishawaka send their homeless people to South Bend. This neighborhood would like to see the leaders of those communities part of the planning. The other thing is that the $1.5 million may be a poor use of scarce resources to do something temporary. Maybe that money could be put to something more permanent. The other thing about the Salvation Army, what we are trying to do is part of their vision and mission and I guess I wonder if we couldn't put some pressure on the Salvation Army to allow us to use that fine building. Many years ago as a probation officer I used to send people to the Salvation Army as they had a wonderful program. Scientists are saying today that to build buildings like that is the use of sand and we are losing sand. They are really trying to promote the reuse of fine buildings like that. Lastly, part of the concern is that we wonder if there couldn't be just one (1) place where breakfast, lunch and dinner is served instead of having all these different places. With no further business, Committee Chair Broden adjourned the Health and Public Safety Committee meeting at 5:18 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, A &4"b-, Jo . Broden, Committee Chair EXCELLENCE I ACCOUNTABILITY I INNOVATION I INCLUSION I EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 1227 W.Jefferson Bvld I South Bend,Indiana 466011 p 574.235.9221 If 574.235.9173!TM 574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 9