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REGULAR MEETING JULY, 10, 2006
Be it remembered that the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana met in
the Council Chambers of the County-City Building on Monday, July 10, 2006 at 7:00
p.m. The meeting was called to order by Council President Timothy A. Rouse and the
Invocation and Pledge to the Flag were given.
ROLL CALL
COUNCILMEMBERS:
Present: Derek D. Dieter 1st District
Charlotte Pfeifer 2nd District
Roland Kelly 3rd District Vice-President
Ann Puzzello 4th District
David Varner 5th District
Ervin Kuspa 6th District
Al “Buddy” Kirsits At-Large
Timothy Rouse At-Large President
Karen L. White At-Large Chairperson Committee of the Whole
OTHERS PRESENT:
John Voorde City Clerk
Mary Beth Wisniewski Chief Deputy
Janice I. Talboom Deputy City Clerk
Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand Council Attorney
REPORT FROM THE SUB-COMMITTEE ON MINUTES
To the Common Council of the City of South Bend: The sub-committee has inspected
the minutes of the June 26, 2006, meeting of the Council and found them to be correct.
Therefore, we recommend the same be approved.
s/Timothy A. Rouse
s/David Varner
Councilmember White made a motion that the minutes of the June 26, 2006, meeting of
the Council be accepted and placed on file. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion
which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
SPECIAL BUSINESS
There was no special business to come before the Council at this time.
RESOLVE INTO THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
At 7:06 p.m., Councilmember Varner made a motion to resolve into the Committee of the
Whole. Councilmember Dieter seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of
nine (9) ayes. Councilmember White, Chairperson, Committee of the Whole, presiding.
Councilmember White explained the procedures to be followed for tonight’s meeting in
accordance with Article 1, Section 2-11 of the South Bend Municipal Code and that
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pamphlets were available to the public, which outline the Council rules and procedures,
and are located on the railing in the Council Chambers.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
BILL NO. 27-06 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL OF THE
COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND, INDIANA, AMENDING CHAPTER 19,
ARTICLE 3 OF THE SOUTH BEND
MUNICIPAL CODE TO PROVIDE FOR
ENACTMENT OF PARK RULES
Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to continue this bill until the July 24, 2006
meeting of the Council and refer to the Parcs Committee. Councilmember Dieter
seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
MOTION TO HEAR BILL 38-06 BEFORE BILL NO. 29-06
Councilmember Varner made a motion to hear Bill 38-06 before Bill 29-06 due to the
expected length of the public hearing for Bill 29-06. Councilmember Rouse seconded the
motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
MOTION TO HEAR BILL 29-06 THEN BILL 38-06 DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF
THE PRESENTER
However, due to the presenter of Bill 38-06 not being present at this time, a motion was
made by Councilmember Varner to hear Bill 29-06 and then Bill 38-06. Councilmember
Kuspa seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
BILL NO. 29-06 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL OF THE
COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND, INDIANA, AMENDING VARIOUS
SECTIONS OF ARTICLE 9, OF CHAPTER 2 OF
THE SOUTH BEND MUNICIPAL CODE
ADDRESSING THE HUMAN RIGHTS
ORDINANCE BY THE INCLUSIONS OF NEW
PROVISIONS ADDRESSING GENDER
IDENTITY AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION
Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to hear the substitute version of this bill.
Councilmember Dieter seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9)
ayes.
Councilmember Charlotte D. Pfeifer, Chairperson, Personnel and Finance Committee,
reported that this committee held a Public Hearing on this bill this afternoon and voted to
send it to the full Council with an unfavorable recommendation.
Councilmember Charlotte D. Pfeifer and Councilmember Roland Kelly were co-sponsors
of this bill and made the formal presentation along with City Attorney Charles Leone and
Executive Director of the South Bend Human Rights Commission Lonnie Douglas.
Roland Kelly, 1325 E. Wayne Street, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is very honored
to be a co-sponsor to this bill. He noted that this has been a very testy issue, a lot of
debate both pro and con. He stated that he has had a number of calls and e-mails that he
has received regarding this issue. In every case they were respectful of his opinion, even
when they disagree with him.
Charlotte D. Pfeifer, 1013 W. Washington, Street, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she
has had a lot of meetings with the Council, and noted that they don’t always agree,
however, they get along pretty well actually, even when they don’t agree. She stated that
she has every faith that tonight the Council is going to do the right thing. She stated that
this is to those who she thinks needs to listen to her. She stated that it is an honor and a
pleasure to address everyone this evening.Councilmember Pfeifer stated that there is a
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very significant decision that needs to be made this evening. It will be a culmination of
two years of work, organizing research, planning and gathering information. She and
Councilmember Kelly have talked about this for at least the last six weeks, and want to
thank everyone in the audience and the listening audience for the way that everyone has
conducted themselves respectfully. There are some challenges in the community with the
young people today, and one of the things that took place when she was growing up was
that adults have to practice what they preach. We cannot act disrespectful and expect our
children to be respectful and we have a lot to be proud about the way everyone has
handle themselves. She stated that obviously everyone knows that she has very strong
feelings, she noted that she is very passionate about things, and feels very strongly about
justice and human rights. She stated that she is black, female, and a baby boomer, who
was born in 1947, right after World War II. She stated that she is overweight and
struggles with weight problems and she wears her hair in dread locks. She wears her hair
in dread locks for a good reason, and she intends to keep it this way because you cannot
separate dread locks and that’s the way she feels we are as humans. You cannot separate
them, what you do to one you do to all. She stated that you cannot pretend that we allow
for a large segment of the community, if we allow them to be disrespectful, we are
compromising humanity. She wanted to remind everyone of that. She stated that it was
very interesting that the Reverend in the invocation tonight, talked about Abraham
Lincoln, and she was going to say the same thing. She reminded everyone that it starts
out with “a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all
men are created equal.” It did not say some men, it didn’t say woman men, white men,
straight men, it said all men. She stated that we are endowed by our creator with
inalienable rights, those rights include, life, liberty and the pursuant of happiness. She
reminds everyone that a couple of years ago at a Community Prayer Breakfast, that she
had the honor to hear President Jimmy Carter and his wife talk about what it means to be
privileged. In those days, about 15 years ago, she stated that she was struggling, she had
children, she didn’t feel privileged at all.But President Carter reminded everyone that if
you own a home, if you have a place to live, you are privileged. If when you go home
and it has been burglarized and you can turn it over to an insurance company, you are
privileged. That if you call the police and they show up, and they treat you with respect,
for some of us that is a privilege. And that you can go out when you get your insurance
company and replace everything that was stolen that is privileged. She stated that she
realizes that she had a privileged life. She wants everyone to know that there are many
who have privileges and privileges are a benefit whether or not you acknowledge it,
many of us have privileges that others do not have. She stated that she is not going to
allow anyone to put people into a box or categorize them as a group. She would like for
everyone to think about a human being a person, a person that you know, someone that
you care about, not some that you love, because we often disrespect and mistreat people
we love and the people we care about we treat better. Think about that human being that
matters to you, who either maybe gay or maybe perceived of gay. Do you really think
that person doesn’t deserve to live in decent housing? Do you really think that person
doesn’t deserve to have employment? Do you really think that person doesn’t deserve to
go to a restaurant and be served? Do you really think that person ought to be
discriminated against and have no recourse? The recourse that everyone else has, that
what she is talking about here tonight. She advised about the bill before the Council
tonight, she stated what it does not have in it. There are a lot of misperceptions of this
bill and she would like to clarify them. This bill is not about marriage or civil contracts
or about couples. This bill has nothing to do with the homosexual agenda. She stated
that she is not homosexual, she is married, a Christian, and has been her entire life. She
knows nothing about promoting a homosexual agenda. She knows everything about
promoting a human agenda. She stated that she was listening to C-Span this weekend
and they were talking about some of the wonderful people that have gone before us. One
of them was Barbara Jordan. She remembered watching Barbara as a young person, and
at the Democratic Convention, when this black women, someone who looked like her,
came upon the stage and lit the whole audience up, she lit the world up, with her
eloquence. She was brilliant. Barbara Jordan was a lesbian. It was kept hidden, Barbara
Jordan, had to keep it hidden, because if people knew she was a lesbian, her career may
have been compromised. A brilliant woman like Barbara Jordan. She stated that when
she was coming along and growing up in Niles, Michigan, she remembered when her
girlfriends in high school got jobs down at Woolworth’s. She wanted a job, so she went
down and took the test, a 100 point test, and she got 98 on it. They did not hire her, she
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didn’t think anything of it. Except the girl in the locker room next to her had just gotten
hired after she did. Fortunately, they had just formed the Human Rights Commission in
the City of Niles, she saw it in the paper. She stated that even then she read the
newspaper. She stated that she wrote them a letter. She told them about what had
happened to her. They went down to Woolworth’s and they even had the nerve to have
her test there, that’s how bold they were. She had 98, they asked why they did not hire
her, and they could not justify it. So guess what? She was the first black person that
worked at Woolworth’s, because, she had re-dress and reported and they did something
about it. She stated that she could go on and on, but you get the point. There are many
people who went before her who made it so that she could sit on this Council, and work
at Indiana University, South Bend, have an education, and own a home. There are people
that she can never thank because they are gone. However, now, she has the opportunity
to stand up for people who need her, and cannot stand up for themselves. She stated that
she would not be a moral person if she did not do this. This bill is not about special
rights. This is about giving rights to people that don’t have rights, the same rights as
everyone else. This is not about religion or the church, this is not about protecting
anyone who breaks the laws. This bill is about human rights, social justice, and civil
rights, yes, civil rights! It is not civil to disrespect or discriminate against human beings.
This bill is about being able to report a perceived discrimination, by the way gay and
straight people can report if the ordinance is amended. This bill adds protection where
there is none. The Council has the power under home rule. In this bill there are
protections for the church and other religious institutions. There is also a recognition and
support for the Supreme Court Ruling against the Boy Scouts. This allows gay and
straight people to file a complaint to move forward and gives the opportunity to stand up
against injustice, discrimination, and prejudice. She hoped that everyone on the Council
would join her and Councilmember Kelly and do the right thing. She hoped that an
opportunity would not be missed to stand up for people who cannot stand up for
themselves. By the way, these are people who are working, paying bills, parents, and law
abiding. She is not talking about anyone who is acting in a disrespectful way, and based
on how they look, or act, or people what they think about how they look or act, they are
discriminated against. Councilmember Pfeifer stated that the Council has the chance
tonight to make history. To change the course and send a message that the City of South
Bend does not support discrimination and begged them to vote with her tonight.
Councilmember Kelly stated Councilmember Pfeifer has done a remarkable job on this
bill tonight and it is a pleasure to be able to work with her. He stated that his motivations
are very simple on this bill. He has said it before and said it again, that he opposes
discrimination in any form for any reason. People are entitled to their civil rights, it’s
guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. Despite what anyone chooses to do
with their life course, deserves their civil rights. That is all he is after and supports this
legislation as much as he possible can. He stated that he has been through the depression,
World War II, and spent a couple of years in the Navy and he has viewed a couple of
cases of discrimination at that time. Those instances really turned him off and this is why
he feels so passionate about the subject today. He served in Memphis, and saw
discrimination against black people. These are not special rights, its civil rights and
guaranteeing the rights that people already have. People have approached him and tell
him that there is discrimination against gays and lesbians in the community, but they do
not have recourse. This bill would allow for the recourse and give those cases
investigated by the Human Rights Commission and then determine if there is grounds for
action or not. Many cases will probably be thrown out, but at least give them the
opportunity to be heard. That is all that is being asked of the Council tonight.
Councilmember Kelly urged the Council’s support of the amendment to the Human
Rights Ordinance.
Charles Leone, South Bend City Attorney, 1400 County-City Building, South Bend,
Indiana, stated that the starting point for looking at enforceability issues is Indiana’s
Home Rule Statute. That act was added in 1980, in its current form and talks very
specifically about the rights that cities have with respect to governing their own affairs
and dealing with issues that are relevant to the city. The most relevant portion is Section
IV of that Act, that talks about the abrogation of the old rule of law. The old rule of law
was that unless the legislature specifically granted a power to the City that that City did
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not have that power. That rule of law is now gone. The statute specifically says that
Cities have all powers granted by statute and all other powers necessary or desirable in
the conduct of its affairs even though not granted by statute.Another section specifically
talks about that the statute should be interpreted broadly to effectuate its purposes. In any
situation where new legislation, an ordinance comes into effect, there is no 100%
guarantee that the courts will interpret that legislation in a way that is favorable to the
body that passes that legislation. Courts in fact take a variety of factors into account and
in fact they interpret the laws in different ways. The language is fairly specific, his
research has determined that across the country in cities where municipal ordinances have
been enacted, he stated that he believed only three (3) nationwide have been in fact struck
down for various reasons. He did not have a list of exactly why that is. For the most
part, those ordinances have been upheld and found to be constitutional in several different
states. It’s hard of course to go state by state, because some states have home rule acts
that are different than Indiana’s Home Rule Act. Although, Indiana’s Act is in fact is
fairly broad and fairly specific. So under those circumstances, there is clearly a good
argument, good foundation, good support for the Council accepting the authority to enact
this ordinance under those circumstances his thinks it is appropriate.
Council President Rouse asked Mr. Leone if any other city has an ordinance like this one.
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He was only aware that Indianapolis, a 1 Class City is the only other city in the State of
Indiana with an ordinance like this, and it was passed just last year in 2005.
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Councilmember Rouse stated that South Bend is a 2 Class City and if challenged, South
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Bend would be the first 2 Class City to have a mandatory ordinance. He noted that
South Bend would be going from nothing to a mandatory ordinance. He also stated that
he believes that the Council was misinformed that there were other cities that have such
and ordinance and that is not the case.
Mr. Leone responded that the Home Rule Issues are not specific to civil rights acts. The
Home Rule Issues apply to virtually every ordinance that this Council considers and in
fact regulates the way that people act within the city limits of the City of South Bend, so
as he discusses Home Rule, he is not talking about just what the City of South Bend is
doing or the City of Indianapolis is doing, he is talking about everything that the
Council’s passes. The scrap yard ordinance, the adult business ordinance, any of these
ordinances and in fact, that’s what he relies on, he relies on the authority that the
legislation has given the City.If you read it, it says that the city has a lot of authority.
Council President Rouse asked that in December, 2005, both the lawyer for the Human
Rights Commission and Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand issued opinions
that kind of flied contrary to what you are presenting here today.
Mr. Leone stated that he did not think that they flied contrary to what he is saying today.
What he is saying is that there are strong basis for supporting this ordinance. There are
clearly concerns and of course as the Council is always debate within the legal
community. No one knows until a judge tells that if in fact an ordinance is valid or not
valid. The City of South Bend has had in the past ordinance’s struck down. The City
also has had ordinances upheld.That is the role of the judicial branch. The City cannot
wait, obviously if this is the right thing to do, then what legislatures typically do is go
ahead an enact the ordinance or the statute depending upon the legislature and in fact if
the court says at some point, yes it is a valid enactment or no, it is not a valid enactment.
So there is certainly some risk in getting the bill passed.
Councilmember Varner stated that the Council is in possession of an opinion or a brief
one by the attorney for the Human Rights Commission, Aladean DeRose that pointed out
a conflict which she saw, and one from the Council’s Attorney Kathleen Cekanski-
Farrand, who points out conflicts which she saw. Councilmember Varner stated that
when it comes times to make a decision, that there are three (3) separate opinions from
respected legal minds from people that we have no reason to believe are biased, they are
simple presenting opinions and we will be forced at this time to make some sort of
decision in one way or the other. Either one of which may be correct, but the Council
should make a decision based on that.
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Mr. Leone stated that the Council does not have to sit as a Court. Certainly, the Council
needs to have legal advise, in terms of what is appropriate to do. But he thinks that it is
not the role of the Council to make that decision in advance.
Councilmember Varner asked then what use are these opinions that you present the
Council with?
Mr. Leone stated that they give a broad context within which to operate. For legislative
purposes this is the appropriate way to start.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked Mr. Leone is he could recall any other times that the City
of South Bend, has been the first to enact legislation? She remembers about the open can
liquor law.
Mr. Leone stated that was before his time, but believe Councilmember Pfeifer was
correct.
Councilmember Pfeifer stated that she believes that the City of South Bend passed that
legislation before the State of Indiana, and now everyone else has followed suit.
Councilmember Kelly advised that he sponsored a piece of legislation concerning gun
control during his first term on the Council. The bill passed by a vote of 5 ayes and 4
nays. It was a very controversial issue that allowed for both pro and con discussion and
attended by many people. Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand was on staff at
that time and was with Councilmember Kelly. The bill was passed by the Council and
shot down by the State Legislature. Councilmember Kelly stated that they tried and he
would try again if he could legally.
Lonnie Douglas, Executive Director, South Bend Human Rights Commission, 301 S. St.
Louis Blvd., South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is making a presentation on how the
Human Rights Commission deals with cases that come before the Commission. Mr.
Douglas stated that the South Bend Human Rights Commission was formed in 1956,
prior to any of the Federal Agencies like EEOC and HUD coming into existing and
dealing with housing and employment issues. The purpose of the Human Rights
Commission being formed was to deal with issues on a first basis of employment
involving race and sex here in the City. Mr. Douglas advised that this year, the Human
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Rights Commission is celebrating its 50 Anniversary. He is very proud of that fact. Mr.
Douglas stated that in order to file a charge with the City of South Bend, there are so
rules that must be adhered to and they are called rules that govern jurisdiction. The
jurisdictional requirements for the South Bend Human Rights Commission are first and
foremost in employment in order to file a charge, the employer and the person filing the
charge must be located in the City of South Bend. The employer must have six (6) or
more employees. That does not hold true for housing, education and public
accommodation. One person can file against another in those areas. A person must
clearly state why they feel that they have been discriminated against and the fact that it is
illegal. The charge must be filed within ninety (90) days of the alleged violation. He
also stated that the respondent must include both public and private entities. When a
person walks into the South Bend Human Rights Commission Office and asks to file a
charge, first and foremost, they screen them. There is an intake officer, that sits down
with them and ascertains the information that they are giving and decide whether or not
that person has the legal background or basis to file a charge. Once that has been
established and they have standings to file a charge, then that person is allow to file the
charge and the Human Rights Commission takes the charge electronically and print out a
copy of that charge at that time. If the claim is filed with EEOC or HUD, it is
electronically filed with them also, so when the Human Rights Commission takes the
charge it automatically goes to those entities. Mr. Douglas stated that once the charge is
taken, he gets a copy from the intake office and he assigns it to one of four (4)
investigators. Those investigators are charged with really taking care of the bulk of their
ordinance and that is investing the charge in such a way that they send out what he calls
interrogatories and the request for the production of documents. That all goes out in a
letter that is sent to the respondent that asks the respondent to please respond within
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twenty (20) days with an answer to the charge and within thirty (30) days with “request
of documents” and “all of the interrogatories and questions.” Once the investigators
receives that information back, they then of course bring the charging party in and go
over the information with that person and then they ask for witnesses or witness
statements or anything that they can garner from that person, to further their side of the
investigation. Once that has been done the investigator attempts to meet with the
respondent to talk about the same things, they go over the information that the charging
party has given and ask for witnesses for the respondent as well. From time to time,
more often than not, they will set up a conference to bring both people together and have
them try to mediate or conciliate this charge. The South Bend Human Rights
Commission is not in the business to brow beating or beating up anyone, they are in the
business of service and trying to help resolve issues. At the fact finding conference, if
they are unable to resolve the issues, they move on with the investigation and the
investigator then must weight all the evidence out, submit to the him, the Director of the
South Bend Human Rights Commission, who in turn submits it to the Human Rights
Commission, which consists of nine (9) people, who in actuality make the final decision
concerning that charge. If in fact the charge is labeled no-cause or found to be no-cause,
then the Commission will vote on that and if they follow through it is no cause and the
case if closed with one exception, and that one exception being that the person filing the
charge has an opportunity to appeal the decision, if in fact they have new evidence or
something that could sway the Commission in terms of the decision that they have made,
the Commission will appoint a hearing officer to hear the information and make a
recommendation back to the Commission in terms of a final recommended order. If the
Commission goes along with that recommended order, it becomes a final order which is
done by the Commissions Attorney. The case is then closed. On the other side of ledger,
if the Commission finds probable cause or reason to believe that discrimination has
occurred then what happens is that they bring the two parties together again in an effort to
resolve the issue. This is called a conciliation conference. At the conciliation conference
they go over pro and cons of going further and try to help the two parties resolve their
issues again. If that is not successful, then the case is set before a public hearing officer,
the public hearing officer is an attorney that is employed by the South Bend Human
Rights Commission contractually to hear these cases and make decisions based upon
them. The public hearing officer conducts a hearing just like any other hearing is
conducted and at the end of that hearing they make a recommendation to the Commission
again, based on the facts that they have discerned as to whether or not they believe there
has been discrimination or if there has not been discrimination. If they concur with the
Commission, then it comes back to the Commission with a recommendation or as it is
called and order. If the order is favorable the Commission again votes on it, if they vote
on it and decide that yes it is, then it comes back to the Human Rights Commission, and
they have to do a cease and desist order and try to eliminate the discriminatory practice
wherever it might be or whatever it might be in the City of South Bend. After the finding
and as part of the probable cause they are required to monitor that respondent for two (2)
years to make sure that they do not violate the agreement and to make sure that the
discriminatory practice has ceased. After that the respondent can have if they so desire,
to have the Court review the Human Rights Process to make sure that they did not error
in their process, they are not supposed to evaluate the decisions made, just the process
itself. That would be the only “opportunity” that the respondent would have to have that
review, is at the end of the process. In terms of the charging party, in housing and
employment they have other avenues in which they go down, one is that in employment,
after or before probable cause is found, if the case has been with the commission for
ninety (90) days, they can request a right to sue and go straight to federal court. The
Commission tries to advise the charging party to go through the entire administrative law
process because that is why it was set up and usually Courts tend to through out cases
that are brought before them before the administrative process is complete. The City of
South Bend has an obligation to further fair housing, so in housing cases, the
Commission becomes an agent for the charging party and if a cause is found the City
Attorney acts in trying to resolve the issue. Mr. Douglas stated that completes how the
Human Rights Commission investigates a charge.
Councilmember Rouse thanked Mr. Douglas for his very detailed flow chart account of
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how the process works. This ordinance has a find of $1,500.00 for the 1 occurrence;
$2,500.00 for any there after. Councilmember Rouse referred to Bill 29-06, and asked
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the question if after the person goes through the whole process, if they disagree with the
Commission and the investigators, what recourse do they have? Mr. Rouse clarified that
he is talking about the respondent, the person who is being charged with discrimination.
Mr. Douglas responded by saying that the respondent can asked that a court review the
process, not the actual decision making, but the process.
Councilmember Rouse then asked, what recourse would the respondent have asking a
court of law to review this process, when the court does not even recognize this protected
class?
Mr. Douglas stated that he was not sure that he understood the question.
Councilmember Rouse asked what recourse would the respondent have if they are
charged by the Commission, as being in violation of this ordinance, after he goes through
the whole ten miles? What court can they go to?
Mr. Douglas stated that he know understands the question. He stated that the respondent
has the right for a court review and that can be appealed also.
Mr. Rouse stated that there is no court that recognizes this particular class.
Mr. Douglas asked Councilmember Rouse if he was referring to the class in Bill 29-06?
Councilmember Rouse responded yes, what court would recognize this protected class?
He stated that he would like to know what court could the respondent go to and tell them
that the South Bend Human Rights Commission has charged them with discrimination
and the respondent does not believe that they have done anything wrong.
Mr. Douglas stated that it was his belief and can check with their attorney, that they have
a right to appeal it to a higher court, and the court could act on that.
Councilmember Rouse stated that he is asking Mr. Douglas because he has the expertise
in trying these cases and feels that Mr. Leone does not. What recourse based on
experience, when this class is not recognized by Indiana State Law?
Mr. Douglas stated that the respondent would still have recourse with a higher court
through an appeal.
Councilmember Dieter asked Mr. Douglas if the South Bend Human Rights Commission
is asking the Council for this amendment as another tool needed? Was something else
needed to help within the parameters of the Commission to help with the problem itself?
Mr. Douglas responded that he believes his boss’s the Commissioners came before the
Council and asked for this amendment to the ordinance.
Councilmember Dieter asked if Mr. Douglas or the Commissioners came before the
Council and asked for this amendment.
Mr. Douglas believes that the Commissioners wrote a letter to the Council.
Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand stated that the letter was sent by the
Commission on March 10, 2005.
Councilmember Pfeifer thanked Mr. Douglas for his presentation and description of the
process of filing a charge. She asked if the Council added two additional factors of
diversity would this change the process?
Mr. Douglas stated that the process would remain the same.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked Mr. Douglas if he believed that there is discrimination of
GLBT people in this community?
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Mr. Douglas responded yes he does.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked to Mr. Douglas if he could speak on how they operate
now? Are the majority of the cases that come before the Human Rights Commission
settled without fines and courts?
Mr. Douglas responded that the majority of their cases are found to be no cause. Of the
rest of the cases, they settle 10 to 15 percent of the cases depending upon the year. The
reason for such high settlement rate is because they operate in pro-active mode rather
than a re-active mode. They believe that education is the key to everything that they do.
They try to educate not only the respondent but those citizens of the City of South Bend.
Councilmember Pfeifer stated that just because a person files an allegation doesn’t mean
that they will be successful.
Mr. Douglas stated that they would still investigate. He commended his staff on a job
well done.
Councilmember Pfeifer stated that if the amendment is passed tonight, will the Human
Rights Commission implement it?
Mr. Douglas responded yes.
Councilmember Rouse asked that in 1997, the Indiana Civil Rights Commission asked all
Human Rights Commissions to report cases of discrimination based on sexual
orientation. The letter was sent by the Director of the Indiana Civil Rights Commission,
Mr. Lee. Councilmember Rouse asked Mr. Douglas if he received that letter?
Mr. Douglas responded yes, that he received the letter.
Councilmember Rouse asked Mr. Douglas how many cases since 1997, has the South
Bend Human Rights Commission reported to the Indiana Civil Rights Commission?
Mr. Douglas responded two (2).
Councilmember White, Chairperson, Committee of the Whole, asked the Council
Attorney for the time taken for the formal presentation.
Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand stated that there was 42 minutes spent as
part of the formal presentation. Now would begin the five (5) minute maximum per
speaker for those in favor.
This being the time heretofore set for the Public Hearing on the above bill, proponents
and opponents were given an opportunity to be heard.
The following individuals spoke in favor of this bill.
Don Olson, 51772 Heath Court, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is a member of
PFAFLG, Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians and Gays. He stated that he is the
proud father of adult son, who happens to be gay. He stated that he would like to address
the issue of discrimination in the GLBT Community. Discrimination against GLBT
persons is present today, it is present on a national level and it is present in South Bend.
There is a climate in this City that causes many to live closeted lives. Fearing the
consequences of living an open and honest life. Those who do live openly, do so at great
risk because they live without the basic protection afforded all other citizens and
employees of this city. Main stream research documents the effects of discrimination
against gays and lesbians. In 2002, the American Psychological Association testimony
before Congress states that “It is the empirically based position of our Association that
discrimination based upon sexual orientation is detrimental to mental health and public
good” In addition a 2004 brief by the APA, “there is a growing recognition that social
prejudice and discrimination against lesbians and gay men take a cumulative toll on their
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well being within lesbian and gay populations those who more frequently feel stigmatized
or discriminated against because of their sexual orientation or who feel compelled to
conceal their homosexuality tend to report more frequent stress and other mental health
concerns. Children of same sex couples are also vulnerable to prejudice and
discrimination, directed against their parents. The children then experience stress as a
direct result.” It also states that psychological research provides no evidence to justify
this discrimination. Other reputable groups such as the American Psychiatric
Association, The American Medical Association, The American Nurses Association and
the American Academy of Pediatrics share the same view. What the evidence does show
is that discrimination causes harm to GLBT individuals and families. He stated that they
face a great challenge in asking people to come forward, not being protected to tell about
their personal situations. Data has been presented in 2005 that twenty (20) individuals in
South Bend, had concerns that they would have like to have taken to the Human Rights
Commission. This is a significant number, but don’t depend on the study alone, many
individuals have stood at this podium, written letters, and sent e-mails and even spoke to
the newspaper about their experience ofdiscrimination. The Human Rights Commission
has acknowledged this discrimination against GLBT individuals exists here and has
asked for the Council to provide a remedy. Can the Council honestly say that they don’t
believe that there is discrimination against GLBT individuals is occurring in South Bend?
Still some voices are forced to remain silent. Tonight, the Council can change this.
Provide a remedy, a place to go, where someone will listen to and investigate the stories.
The Human Rights Commission is already set up to do this. They have already asked the
Council to provide such a remedy. All that is needed if for the Council to be courageous
enough to take a stand for what is right, just and fair. Protection for all who live, work or
conduct business in South Bend. He urged the Council to vote in favor of the amendment
of the South Bend Human Rights Ordinance to include sexuality orientation and gender
identity.
Gail McGuire, 1629 Belmont, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she is a married, mother
of two and a Professor of Sociology of Indiana University, South Bend. Her area of
specialization is inequality in the workplace. She is representing South Bend Equality.
She is speaking on the economic justification for amending the Human Rights Ordinance
to include sexual orientation and gender identity. She stated that she had two basic
points, first, there is business support for this kind of legislation and second, amending
the Human Rights Ordinance makes good business sense for South Bend. In regard to
the first point, over 92% of Fortune 500 Businesses that have policies that prohibit
discrimination against gays and lesbians, this includes Wal-Mart the largest of the
Fortune 500 companies as well as all five of the Fortune 500 companies headquartered in
Indiana. Forty major Indiana employers also have non-discrimination policies that
include sexual orientation including Westpoint, Conseco, Eli Lilly & Co., National
Collegiate Athletic Asociation, Allied Van Lines, and American United Life Insurance.
Additionally, a number of companies have gender identity expression in their non-
discrimination policy, such as IBM, American Airlines, Walgreens, Lucent Technologies,
Xerox and Verizonwireless. South Bend Equality has also presented the Common
Council with letters from local businesses that support Bill No. 29-06. In regards to the
second point, research shows that the level of diversity and inclusiveness in a City is as
positively related to its economic vitality. She quoted statements from CEO’s who
believe that prohibiting discrimination against GLBT is a sound economic strategy.
Daniel Carp, Chairman & CEO, Eastman Kodak “in our competitive marketplace diverse
markets offer opportunity for growth, we need the ideas and insights of diverse and an
inclusive workforce to attract and better serve customers.” Ted Childs, Vice-President of
Global Workforce Diversity at IBM explained “the contributions that are made by the
IBM members of the GLBT accrue directly to our bottom line, our goal is to assembly
the most talented workforce in the industry and to use the skills of that diverse team to
respond to the needs of our customers.” Clearly companies of this caliber are looking to
do business in communities that also value to contributions of a diverse workforce.
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Passing Bill 29-06 is one way that South Bend can show that it is the 21 century city that
it aspires to be and that it understands and appreciates the value of diversity. On behalf
of South Bend Equality, she urged the Council to vote favorably for Bill 29-06, it would
be good for business, good for employees, and good for the economic growth of the city.
She stated that she is one of the statistics that are often read about, she stated that she was
discriminated against simply because of her sexual orientation, despite the fact that she is
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a tenured faculty member, very productive member at IUSB, a mother, a volunteer in the
community and gives money to this community in a variety of ways. By not passing this
bill, she is one of the statistics, one of the people that could possible be affected by not
protecting GLBT people. She stated that she hopes the Council won’t let that happen.
Stacy Davis, 304 Runaway Bay Circle, Mishawaka, Indiana, stated that she teaches in
South Bend. She stated that she is both a student and a teacher of rhetorical criticism for
the use of language to make a point. Although her area of expertise is Hebrew Bible, she
respectfully suggested to the Council that the study of language may be useful as the
Council decides whether they support the bill to add sexual orientation and gender
identity to the South Bend Human Rights Ordinance. The idea that only identities based
solely on genetics or those that are already existing are worthy of protection is
unsupported by the existing ordinance as it reads, simply because there is no gene for
religion. Therefore, even if homosexuality is a choice, and that is debatable, so is
religion that is not debatable. The ordinance already protects religion as a choice. Some
maybe concerned that the addition of sexual orientation and gender identity to the
ordinance creates some form of special rights. According to the American Heritage
Dictionary, which she knows and loves, special means “surpassing what is common or
usual or exceptional” guaranteeing rights of equal access to housing, employment and
education to citizens who happen not be heterosexual is not exceptional. Such rights are
basic. She stated that she is concerned what basic means and does not mean, may have
clouded the debate concerning the proposed amendment. She understands that there is no
hidden meaning or agenda behind the attempts to add language to the existing ordinance.
The plainly stated goal is to guarantee protection to as many of South Bend Citizens as
possible. Additionally, it should be noted that historically what has not been stated in
plain language cannot be assumed. For example, although the Declaration of
Independence which has been quoted several times tonight claim that all people are
created equal, in the case of U.S. Citizens who happen to look like her, it took three
constitutional amendments, one civil rights act, and a voting rights act to guarantee what
the Declaration had supposedly assumed. She pleaded that the rights of gays, lesbian, bi-
sexual and trans-gendered citizens need to be protected and are not protected in the
current ordinance as it is written. Experience suggests otherwise, and no one should have
to hope, assume or even have to pray, that their rights are guaranteed. Adding sexual
orientation and gender identity to the ordinance would clearly state in writing the City’s
commitment to equal protection under the law and the power of the specific written
should not be underestimated in this matter.
Mary Porter, 52081 Woodridge Drive, South Bend, Indiana, spoke on behalf of South
Bend Equality, would like to reiterate why the proposed amendment is enforceable. She
stated that the Home Rule Act and the Indiana Civil Rights Act provide the Common
Council with legislative power to amend the ordinance. The Home Rule Act grants
municipalities broad powers to effectively govern local affairs. She further noted that
adding sexual orientation and gender identity as protected classes does not cause a
conflict with the Indiana Civil Rights Act. Indiana Courts have repeatedly ruled that a
local ordinance and a state statute are in conflict, when the ordinance forbids that which
the statute expressly permits. Not, where an ordinance merely supplements the
protections that the statute already provides. Such supplemental burdens need only be
logically consistent with the statutory purpose. The purpose of the Indiana Civil Rights
Act is stated as follows: “The promotion of equal opportunity without regard to race,
religions, colors, sex, disability, national origin, or ancestry through reasonable methods.”
The public policy underlying the Indiana Civil Rights Act is to provide equal opportunity
in employment, housing, and public accommodations for all of the states citizens. The
evidence presented to the Common Council showed that South Bend cannot promote
equal opportunity for all of its citizens without adding sexual orientation and gender
identity to the ordinance. The amendment does not conflict with state law and is in fact
logically consistent with the statutory purpose and broad public policy underlying the
ICRA. If this bill is approved, then enforcement should not be a problem. The members
of South Bend Equality and other concerned citizens would not have worked on this
ordinance for two years for the amendment, if it would simply be overturned. When you
vote to approve this amendment, a historic moment, when you vote in favor of this
amendment, you will be on record as being against discrimination. If the amendment is
approved it doesn’t mean that discrimination against GLBT citizens will end. It means
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that these citizens will be able to bring their stories to the Human Rights Commission,
instead of bringing them to the South Bend Common Council. If the amendment is not
approved, GLBT citizens who experience discrimination will only be able to continue to
bring their stories to the South Bend Common Council as they have for the past two
years.
Danielle Redman, 518 N. Scott Street, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she lives with her
sister, mom and her mom’s partner Denise. She stated that she loves them very much.
She advised that her mom and her partner Denise take care of her and her sister, with
their problems no matter what they are, they are always there for them. Some of things
that they do for her and her sister are helping bake cookies for school activities, going on
field trips, taking her to orchestra concerts and to tennis and always volunteering to help
in the classroom and whatever the teacher needs help with and always help with
homework. She further noted that they take her and her sister to ballgames and help at
the children’s dispensary. There are kids that say bad things to her, like they say they
don’t like her mom because she’s gay and they hate me because she is gay, and they say
they hate her whole family because her mom is gay. She indicated that those things hurt
her a lot. She urged the Council to pass this amendment, so that families like hers are
protected.
Rhonda Redman, 518 N. Scott Street, South Bend, Indiana, advised that Danielle is her
daughter and that she wanted to come speak to the Council and was not asked by her and
the words that she wrote are her own. After listen to much public comment by members
of Mr. Mangan’s group, she keeps coming back to a most disturbing realization of the
stereotypically image they portray of members of the GLBT community in no way
resembles herself or her family. She stated that some may remember her from many
years of community involvement, she is a mother of three, who just happens to be a
lesbian. She stated that she and her partner Denise have been a commitment
monogamous relationship for almost four years. Family is their #1 priority, and they are
extremely active and involved parents. They continue to strive to provide their girls with
positive experiences, where they can learn to be respectful positive members of society.
Volunteerism and giving back to society are greatly valued in her family. Her son who is
also here tonight has apparently learned these lessons well and can honestly say that she
is proud of the young man that he has become. Her oldest daughter spoke before her
regarding their family and lifestyle, she told how she is treated by fellow students
because of her being gay, and how that makes her feel. This nothing new for her, she has
had to deal with this issue, since she was in second grade. The sad irony here is that, they
have done nothing to make her a target, other than simply show up to support her in her
activities and to help out whenever they are needed. To her daughters credit, she still
wants her around, despite the price she’s often forced to pay for it. For those who believe
that there is not an anti-gay climate in South Bend, can you look at her child and tell her
that she is not being harmed. She believes that she feels quite the opposite. She stated
that her youngest daughter is autistic, which is why she is unable to be here tonight. Last
night as she was fast asleep in the comfort of her own bed, it occurred to her that she
would have to face people, who believe that for this young child, sleeping in her own
bed, in their own home, is a special right. She respectfully disagrees, to some this is a
issue of morality, to her, it is an issue of treating her family and children with fairness
and the same level of respect afforded any other family in the city. She believes her
children deserve this. She challenged the Council to consider before their vote, instead of
simply accepting inaccurate stereotypes of a so called “status group” she asked the
Council to see them as the individuals that they truly are. The GLBT community is an
incredibly diverse group of individuals. They are not simply a group, they are human
beings of value, people who contribute daily to the betterment of the City. She urged the
Council to vote favorably on Bill 29-06 to amend the Human Rights Ordinance, to
include sexuality orientation and gender identity.
Maureen Lafferty, 739 Marquette Avenue, South Bend, Indiana, read into the record a
letter on behalf of Ellen Ann Anderson, Associate Professor of Political Science, Indiana
University, Purdue University, Indianapolis, Indiana.
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7/10/06
To the Members of the South Bend Common Council
President Timothy Rouse wrote an editorial that appeared in the South Bend Tribune on
July 9, 2006. In that editorial, he questioned the validity of recent survey findings
showing that 79% of Hoosiers agree that lesbians and gay men “deserve the same civil
rights protections as everyone else.” I’m sorry I can’t be there in person to respond to Mr.
Rouse’s concerns, but I am currently in Baltimore at a professional conference. I’d like
to assure the members of the Common Council that the data from the 2005 Indiana Poll
are trustworthy and reliable. I have two main points to make.
The first point I want to make concerns the fairness of the questions. Mr. Rouse infers
that because I study the gay rights movement, the survey questions I designed might be
biased or at least might be perceived to be biased. Survey researchers like me worry
about biased questions all the time. Because bad questions give us useless answers.
That’s why we test questions ahead of time to make sure they are fair, and we use
questions for earlier surveys so we can compare results. The 2005 Indiana Poll used
questions that had been field tested in a variety of other surveys, making only minor
changes, such as using the word “Hoosiers” instead of the work “Americans.”
It’s not surprising, then, that the results of the 2005 Indiana Poll look very similar to
findings from other surveys. The overwhelming majority of Americans believe that
lesbians and gay men should be included in civil rights laws. For example, the 2004
National Election Study found that 80% of Americans favored laws to protect lesbians
and gay men against job discrimination. The National Election Study is one of the most
respected and long-running surveys of American opinion in the nation; it is the standard
against which other public opinion surveys are measured.
The second point I want to make concerns the number of people that were surveyed. Mr.
Rouse infers that because we surveyed “only” 504 adult Hoosiers, our findings do not
offer a true picture of actual public opinion. This is a common misperception. The 2005
Indian Poll surveyed a random subset of Hoosiers men and women, old and young, black
and white, Republican and Democrat who look like the rest of the state. This technique
allows researchers to gauge overall public opinion very accurately, even when only a
relatively small number of people are interviewed. In fact, the National Election Study
can measure the attitudes of over 200 million people by interviewing only 2,000 people.
In sum, the findings of this recent survey are real and they are credible. Four out of five
Hoosiers believe that lesbians and gay men deserve the same civil rights protections as
everybody else.
Yours truly,
Ellen Ann Andersen
Associate Professor of Political Science
Catherine Pittman, 2628 Summit Ridge, South Bend, Indiana, passed out two handouts,
1. South Bend Equality – Petitions; 2. No Special Rights.net, petition. She stated that the
Human Rights Commission has indeed made a statement that they recognize that
discrimination is occurring against GLBT individuals and that they have asked the South
Bend Common Council to find a remedy to this.They wanted it to be investigated and
find a remedy to be found. It has been over a year ago, that they made that request and it
is in writing. Also, because only two cases have been reported of GLBT discrimination,
GLBT individuals no that there is no recourse for them when they go the Human Rights
Commission, so it underestimates the number of people who would come if they new that
there was recourse, that someone would be able to listen to them. She talked about some
of the petitions that the Council may have seen circulating around. Mr. Mangan’s group
has done a good job of trying to confuse this issue. There have been presentations on all
kinds of irrelevant issues in this Council Room. In a similar manner, the petition that his
group has circulated raises all kinds of irrelevant issues.The petition mentions same sex
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marriage, mandatory sensitivity training for school students, GLBT sex education for any
grade level, and the criminalizing of public bible reading. None of these issues are
relevant to the proposed amendment. In fact, the amendment is not even mentioned on
the petition that they circulated. There is no way of knowing that the individual who
signed the petition even knows what Bill 29-06 involves. She asked how many of the
individuals who signed Mr. Mangan’s petition would actually be opposed to this bill.
Would they really be against given GLBT citizens the simple right to seek assistance
from the Human Rights Commission, if they were harassed at their job, or they were
denied a place to rent. It is impossible to know what people really thought, one thing
they do know is that the majority of Hoosier’s do believe that GLBT individuals should
have the same civil rights protection as others. Are the people who signed the petitions
really against everything that has to do with GLBT citizens? If this is the case than the
petitions are evidence of a different kind. They could be seen as evidence that there is a
group of individuals in this community that feel they are justified in treating GLBT
individuals anyway they chose. They don’t want any limitations whatsoever placed on
their ability to discriminate. It is hard to draw a clear conclusion about what Mr.
Mangan’s group of petitions mean? The petitions that she collected on the other hand
send a clear message, they clearly explain what the specific legislation entails and the
signatures have a clear meaning. The people who signed our petitions who number over
1200, including over 800 South Bend residents, have clearly expressed their support for
Bill 29-06, and stand with the majority of Hoosiers who believe GLBT individuals
deserve Civil Rights. She encouraged the Council to compare the different petitions
carefully, before considering voting on Bill 29-06.
Councilmember White asked if a copy of the petition is on file with the Office of the City
Clerk?
Ms. Pittman stated that a complete copy of the signed petitions are on file in the Office of
the City Clerk.
Jane Ann Himsel, Attorney, One Indiana Square Ste. 1800, Indianapolis, Indiana. She
stated that she has been representing South Bend Equality and helping them work
through some of the legal issues. She stated that quite frankly she did not want to speak
tonight, because there is nothing about this that would suggest that the Council would
like to hear from someone in Indianapolis has to say. She stated that she sat in the
Committee Meeting this afternoon, and felt absolutely compelled to stand up tonight as
address the Council. She asked the Council to please be courageous, and join
Indianapolis, and do the right thing tonight. She is very concerned that there is a
misperception that somehow if the Council fails to pass this, GLBT would somehow be
able to somehow go to Indianapolis, go to the Indiana Civil Rights, go to the Federal
Courts and obtain relief from day to day discrimination in employment and housing.
They cannot do that, the Indiana Civil Rights Act, does not yet protect GLBT people, the
Indiana Civil Rights Commission cannot act on their behalf, at the current time. The
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Federal Law Title 7, Employment law, as interpreted by the 7 Circuit, which is the
Federal Court of Appeals that governs Indiana, has made crystal clear that GLBT people
are not protected by Title 7, except in a vary, vary, vary, narrow swath of cases, that
involve same sex discrimination. Folks, it you don’t pass this ordinance, these people
have no recourse. She stated that she has employers for fifteen (15) years, there is
discrimination out there. She would like to think that none of her clients have every
engaged in any of it. This is the most important work that she has ever done. She
pleaded with the Council to do the rights thing, pass this, send a message to the people of
the State of Indiana that South Bend wants to include everybody and give everybody
equal protection under the laws, that’s all this is.
Martha Carroll, 638 E. Ewing Avenue, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she urged the
Council to vote yes on Bill 29-06. The Council has the opportunity this evening to say
yes to Civil Rights for all and no to discrimination against people who live in your
respective districts, pay taxes, attend school, churches and work here in South Bend. It’s
only fair! She stated that people learn fair at a very early age. She advised that one day
during recess, she pushed, Letha Whitehead off the merry-go-round, her friends and her
laughed as she hit the dirt. She was after all not like her, she was poor and dirty and had
sores on her legs. Why was she on their merry-go-round? They didn’t want her there, so
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she pushed her off. It was funny until she came around to where she had landed, her eyes
met hers, she can remember it to this day. She stated that she had hurt another human
being for no other reason than that she was who she was. There was no teacher to correct
her, none of her friends disapproved, but she knew and Letha knew, what she did was
wrong. The Council, as adults, Americans, as elected leaders in the community know
that discrimination is wrong. The tied is turning and the nation is moving towards justice
on this issue. Thank God, for courageous politicians who have dared to do the right thing
in spite of opposition. Heroes take risks, she hoped that the Council would act heroically
tonight. For some, it may be a faith issue, she knows that good people of faith disagree
about homosexuality. The argument will go on for some time no doubt, meanwhile, what
about Civil Rights for everyone. That’s what this is about, the Council is not voting
tonight about approving or disapproving whether people are gay, lesbian, bi-sexual or
transgendred. The Council is voting to ensure that basic civil rights for all people who
live in South Bend. Many people have worked hard to bring this topic to this point. Is it
worth the effort, yes, she believes that it is. She stated that she grew up in Louisiana in
the 1950’s and 1960’s, she did not know the law, but she knew the way things worked.
She saw it all around her, and the signs that clearly indicated who was welcomed and
who was not in public places. The jokes she heard at home and at school, and the ways
her parents and all the other adults she knew spoke to and about the minority groups in
her town. Did the laws enacted change all that? Not overnight , still it was clear that a
new day was coming. Now when she goes home all the outward visible vestiges of racist
closed society are gone. Are there racist people there now, you bet there are! But here is
the difference, it is no longer okay to be racists. The society at large no longer approves
of it! The Council’s yes vote tonight, will say to this community, that it is no longer
acceptable to discriminate. Continued inaction and silence gives permission to most
violate forces within the Community to act without fear of consequence. It gives those
who discriminate in more subtle way, permission to continue to do so. The Council’s yes
vote tonight, shows everyone in this Community that they recognize the rights of all
citizens and protect those rights for everyone. The universe leans towards justice, and
South Bend is only one small part of a movement, that began long before any of us were
born and will continue long after we are all gone. In our country, it began for the right
for freedom, and liberty for white men who owned property. Another war gave freedom
to men, women and children of color. The suffrage movement followed and those
women’s were ridiculed. And then the Civil Rights Movement, will eventually mean that
GLBT people would be included as well. Over the last 230 years have learned what it
means to live more fully into the words that we have know since we were children and
stood and said together at the beginning of this meeting. I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of American, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation,
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please be among those who mean
those words.
Debra Davis, 13024 Pierce Road, Wakarusa, Indiana, stated that she works in the South
Bend Community. She has been reading and hearing people state their opinions that
tonight people are asking for special rights. She is here tonight to disagree with that
statement. She comes to represent those of those that live with the fact that society does
not understand their daily struggle. Most desire the same things all human’s desire. The
basic freedoms for which many people continue to die. There are three basic needs that
she believes we all have. These are to love and be loved so deeply, that your hurts, joys
and lives become one. To devote and give yourself to the well being of others. To work
hard, so that at the end of the day, you can say to yourself that you did a good job, today,
that you are proud and what you have accomplished and earned a paycheck. She believes
that most of us deep down desire those basic needs be fulfilled. So what you as a Council
are voting on tonight is not a special right for anyone. The language here tonight asking
to be added to the ordinance, does one thing for many, it frees those to devote 100% of
themselves to their places of employment. This language does this by removing the fear
that is settled in back of many minds. The fear that they could lose their jobs tomorrow,
if the wrong person finds outs who they love. The need to guard every word spoken in
the break room or in the staff meeting, for fear someone might figure something out and
then have to pay the consequence. An example in her life, was that she was working in a
group home for the mentally challenged. A female co-worker overheard a conversation
that she had on her phone with her significant other, with whom she has been with for
over seventeen years. She realized that she was a lesbian, and decided that since she and
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her husband were having some problems, maybe she should try out being a lesbian. Like
it was something to try on, like a piece of clothing. She noted that when she did not
respond to her advances, her attitudes toward her changed. Where previously they had
worked well as a team. Now, she was frequently angry and argumentative in her dealings
with her. Previously where they easily each stepped up and shared the work load, due to
her seniority, now, she was expected to carry a greatly percentage of the work load.
Where previously they would step in for each other when a task needed done, she would
still allow her to help her co-worker. But when she needed assistance, the co-worker
would not assist her, because she was always to busy. If a task was done late or
overlooked, the co-worker would report the incident to the manager. She stated that she
was very lucky in this situation, her superior knew her work ethic. The supervisor knew
that the co-worker was being unrealistic. The complaints were overlooked, and at her
request a shift change and a change of where she worked was granted. She never brought
up the cause of these problems with her manager. The reason that she tells this story, is
that there are many people in authority, who have preconceived ideas about sexual
identity. Where is she was to reveal the cause of these problems to her manager at this
time, she could have easily decided that this way to get rid of her and cost her her job.
The fact is, that there are many people like her, doing their days work, with the fear of
losing their jobs, when co-workers or superiors, find out their sexual identity. She would
like the Council to step into their shoes for a moment and picture what it is like to live
everyday working in fear. Imagine, how much more engaged employees they could
become at their workplaces without that fear lurking in the background. This is what she
is asking the Council to do tonight for the community. Help GLBT’s become the kind of
workers the Community needs them to be.
Henry R. Mascotte, 17989 Edgewood Walk, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is a
member of South Bend Equality and PFAFLG, Parents, Family and Friends of Lesbians
and Gays. Mr. Mascotte stated that he has a lesbian sister and a gay step-son. He stated
that one of the issues mentioned tonight and spoken of in the newspaper over the last
couple of years which faces both Indiana and South Bend is the loss of talented and
creative Hoosiers who choose to live elsewhere, the so called “brain drain.” He asked his
step-son, to share with him some of the reasons for leaving South Bend, Indiana. He
step-son told him that his decision to pursue a life and career away from South Bend and
Indiana was the result of many factors. Chiefly, was a desire to be able to be himself, in
an accepting environment. Mr. Mascotte stated who would not want that. South Bend
was not that environment, he noted that he had to cover his homosexuality for fear of
ridicule, violence, the fear of being fired or not hired, simply for being who he was.
When thinking about a future in South Bend, it looked bleak. The idea of having to live a
live to stay closeted, was horrible enough. If he had to hide so did everyone else, and that
meant that it would be extremely hard to find a partner and build a home together.
Ultimately, like many gay people he opted to live in a large metropolitian area where
both businesses and social environments are typically more accepting or at least tolerant.
There were even anti-discrimination laws in the big cities to protect his livelihood and
domestic partnership laws to protect any family that he might build. He felt like the cities
were behind him, he felt safer and more importantly respected. He wasn’t the only gay
person from South Bend, who felt this way and moved away from South Bend to a large
city. His first job with Anderson Consulting, he ran into a high school classmate, who
was in his advanced classes who finally felt comfortable to come out to him. He was a
bright talented guy, who family had done very well in South Bend. He too left as well.
His step-son graduated Suma-cum-laude from John Adams High School, BS in finance
from Indiana University, Bloomington, Magna-cum-laude, IBM Corporation, finance
internship, Andersen Consulting, Chicago, IL , Continental Bank, Chicago, IL; Chicago
Title & Trust Co., Chicago, IL; Planet U, San Francisco, CA, a dot com corporation in
the dot com era. Presently, employed Fidelity National Financial, Santa Ana California.
His step-son lives in Rancho Mirage, near Palm Springs, California, who makes six
figures and play a lot of taxes and owns his own home and has just brought property
outside of the Joshua Tree Area outside of Palm Springs. He noted that his step-son lives
alone, with his two dogs, in a diverse neighborhood. This is just one gay persons reasons
for leaving the South Bend and the State of Indiana. This gives you some idea why South
Bend would do well to pass this amendment. If South Bend wishes to attracted talented
and creative Hoosiers to stay in the state and city and feel welcome and respected.
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Joseph Schultz, 15344 U.S. 6, LaPaz, Indiana, stated that he works in South Bend. Mr.
Schultz stated that in 1990 he worked at Jeans West in University Park Mall, Mishawaka,
Indiana. During that time he was the manager for six months. He noted that the store
increased in sales the most of any store in the district. He was manager of the month
once during the six month tenure with the company. Mr. Shultz stated that during that
time his first manager, who knew he was gay, had no problems with it. But there was a
shifting of districts and a new manager came in. This new manager also knew he was
gay, and at that time thought he did not have a problem with it. But the new managers
attitude was appearing to become cold towards him. But he put this up to being
unfamiliar with his work ethic. During the two visit that the new manager came to his
store, the till was short. The only time that the till was short was the two times when this
new manager came to observe the store. The till was short exactly $50.00 each time. At
the second visit, the manager stated that he had seen one of the employees take this fifty
dollars and pass it off to an alleged customer in the hallway. Mr. Schultz stated that he
was disturbed by this but wasn’t sure what he could do about it. A few days later the
manager came back into the store and told him that he was going to be let go, because he
could not control his till. He stated that they also told him that they didn’t trust him any
longer with the money, even with the increase in sales at the store did not matter. Mr.
Schultz stated that he found out shortly afterwards that everyone that he had hired in the
store during his time there had been fired, except for the employee that had allegedly
taken the fifty dollars. He stated that he thought that this was very odd considering that
was the reason he was let go. He noted that this was a while ago, and one could say that
this was in Mishawaka and not in South Bend, but he believes that it was at best naïve,
and worst disingenuous to assume that things are different now. He stated that he had
nowhere to go and there was no recourse because of Indiana’s employment laws and
there was nobody to report to. Anybody in the same situation now, would have no
recourse either. Mr. Schultz stated that the no special rights stickers being worn tonight
are hypocritical. No matter how much political jargon or legal technicality or
psychological studies that they have done, the opposition to this is primarily religious.
Religion is a protected class, so to say that GLBT’s are asking for special rights when
everyone else enjoys these rights is quite hypocritical. What is being asked tonight is to
protect their very special rights to discriminate against GLBT’s , who either subscribe or
conform to their religion. In a way this is religious persecution, because he does not
agree with them, he doesn’t think that he should lose his job because he does not agree
with someone else’s religion. As a Christian, he posed the question to those that are
basing this amendment on their faith, if they think of the GLBT community as the least of
your brothers and sisters among them, how do you want to say how you treated them.
George Garner, 112 Franklin Place, South Bend, Indiana, thanked Councilmember
Pfeifer for sharing her experiences and how they relate to being an African American
Woman. He indicated that he cannot relate, because he is a straight white male, age 18-
35. He noted that the majority of people in the audience cannot relate to those
experiences, because they didn’t have those experiences in life growing up. Mr. Garner
stated that he is here tonight to speak in favor of stopping discrimination in any form and
urged the Council to vote favorably on this amendment.
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Maria Melendez, 938 S. 23 Street, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she is a heterosexual
citizen of the City of South Bend and that it really pains her to know that saying that
raises her creditability. She stated that it pains her to think that if she stood before the
Council and begun her speak by saying she was a lesbian or bi-sexual citizen of South
Bend that that would mean something different about her statement. If your answer is
yes to this for any reason, then right away that is the potential for discrimination. There
has been evidence and testimony to that kind of discrimination here tonight. She stated
that the reason that she is speaking in favor of Bill 29-06 is because that it should not be
the case that she has the added privilege right now as a heterosexual. This bill is not
about being gay or leading a gay lifestyle it is about protecting Americans, its about
standing up to protect Americans against discrimination. She stated that the Council can
be part of South Bend’s important history of being a community that is full of leadership
and vision. She noted that it was her observation about her neighbors and her fellow
citizens that oppose this bill, are better dressed than many of her neighbors and fellow
citizens that are in favor of this bill. She noted that there are many wonderful suits, ties,
women on the opposition have very elaborately done hair. She noted that there is a point
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to this observation, and that it is not to put down her fellow neighbors or citizens that they
need better hairdressers, though in fact they may, the point is at present, that if this group
here were to exit this building on moth and walk into a place of education or
employment, if they were to walk into a realtor’s office, the issue of discrimination, the
act of discrimination, could be as easy as a fashion assessment and could be as
inconsequential. It could be as meaningless as that and the Council can change that
tonight, by standing up and saying that discrimination in form is not what the Council is
about. This is the promise of American that the Council is fulfilling, this is the promise
of American that takes people’s hard work, vision and insight to define and understand
and it takes courage to extend that promise to protect all citizens. She urged the Council
to support Bill 29-06.
William Eagen, 3402 Scarlet Maple Ct., South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is a member
of the Human Rights Commission, however, tonight he is speaking on behalf of himself
and not the commission. Mr. Eagen commended Councilmember Rouse for his point of
view in the South Bend Tribune. However, he took exception to some of the points made
in the article. The matter of enforceability, won’t be able to be determined until it is
tested, in the Courts, Indianapolis, the legislature and in Washington D.C. Bill 29-06 is
worth trying out. Things do not go smoothly all the time. Mr. Eagen stated that he is old
enough to remember the New Deal, most people in attendance here tonight don’t. There
was a great risk taking the New Deal proposals came out. There was a very conservative
Supreme Court, despite that, Congress and the President passed the New Deal provisions.
It is true, some on the provisions as the NRA, were declared unconstitutional by the
Court. At that time no one new how many provisions were going to make or not make
the cut. A risk was taken in order to make progress, there is a necessity for risk. We are
constantly being called upon to make decisions, based on information that is possibly
incomplete or incorrect information. For instance, we depend upon weather forecast,
economic predictions to make decisions. Knowing full well that they are more likely
wrong than right. So we plan cookouts, for an expected beautiful day, and then there is
rain, thunder, lightning and hail. When the economic future is not to bright, we buy
bonds and go into a bleak market, but we have to work with what we have.
Councilmember Rouse stated that most of the information that he requested, he did not
receive. Mr. Eagen stated that he agreed with Councilmember Rouse and that the
information he requested would have been useful in this discussion. Mr. Eagen stated
that he does not understand bureaucracy, so therefore, he doesn’t understand how the
President of the Council could not get the information that he requested. The point of the
Mayor issuing an Executive Order, would only cover City employees. It would not cover
the rest of the population. Mr. Eagen urged the Council to move in a direction of fairness
and seek what happens.
Mayor Stephen J. Luecke, 1400 County-City Building, South Bend, Indiana, stated that
despite the fact that he is wearing a suite and tie, he is in favor of the ordinance. Mayor
Luecke stated that he does believe that there is discrimination in South Bend, Indiana and
in the nation, based upon sexual orientation and gender identity. If we all look into our
hearts, and around this community you can come to this conclusion. He believes that it is
appropriate to address this issue at local level. The City does have the authority under
Home Rule. Certainly, it would be better if addressed as the State or Federal level, but it
has not been. So, sometimes it is called upon us as individuals or communities to take
the lead. South Bend’s Human Rights Commission started in 1956, before State or
nd
Federal Laws were in place on this issue. South Bend would be the first 2 Class city
with a mandatory ordinance. He will point out that South Bend was the first city as far as
he knows to have a drug house ordinance in the State of Indiana. He doesn’t think that it
is bad to be first when you are taking a position of principle. It has been suggested that
there are other approaches to address this. He could as Mayor issue an Executive Order,
he can and will if need be. But, that would only apply to City of South Bend Employees,
it would not apply to housing, and would not apply to other employers throughout the
City. He thinks that it would be better for everyone to have a citywide ordinance that is
really inclusive for the entire community. This is an issue on which people of good heart
and good faith disagree. Individuals will reach conclusions for different reasons, but he
hopes that common ground can be found. He believes that the common ground that can
be found is that this is a nation with high ideals, built on the proposition that all persons
are created equal. Over the history of this Country, it has come to understand equality
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and rights more fully. The original documents establish the right of freedom and religion,
because these settlers had experienced persecution and discrimination in that arena.
Since then, other protected classes have been added. This has been a growth process,
people who had not been seen as fully human, had been given that respect and given their
rights. He stated that peopled are called to see common humanity in one another, to
respect it, and to protect human rights. He urged the Council to support this amendment,
and take a stand against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, to
provide protection, provide a forum, and means of redress. These are our neighbors, our
friends, our brothers, our sisters, our children, where will there go to ask for assistance,
where will they go to seek protection, they should be able to go to the Human Rights
Commission in the City of South Bend. He encouraged the Council to adopt Bill 29-06.
Isabel Gonzalez, 232 S. Holiday Drive, South Bend, Indiana thanked the Council for
taking the time and especially to Councilmember’s Charlotte Pfeifer and Roland Kelly
for having the open forum and allowing the public to speak, pro and con on this issue.
She stated that she arrived in this great City in 1992. In the past 14 years she has seen
how this City has grown and diversified and faced many, many challenges. She stated
that she has gotten to know many of the members of the City Council, some of whom she
has worked closely with. She stated that she speaks very little on the issues, but tonight
she felt compelled to let her feelings be known. She stated that the Council has a
responsibility tonight to look into their hearts and look at the facts. She advised that she
has attended the meetings and forums held on Bill 29-06 and there are many emotions on
this topic. A lot of letters, e-mails, and phone calls have been made. Ms. Gonzalez stated
that she too is a member of the South Bend Human Rights Commission, however, she is
speaking on behalf of herself and not the Commission. She stated that she has 30 years
of Human Resource Management background and noted that she sees discrimination, in
housing in South Bend. She urged the Council to vote favorably on Bill 29-06.
Councilmember Varner made a motion to recess for ten (10) minutes. Councilmember
Dieter seconded the motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
The following individuals spoke in opposition to this bill.
Patrick Mangan, P. O. Box 552, Notre Dame, Indiana, stated that being at this late point
and time in the evening, he feels a little like the professor at the time of the course
evaluation, when he was reading through those evaluations and had one that stopped him.
It said that if I had only ten minutes to live, I would want to spend it in your class. And
as the Professor started to feel puffed up, he read the words, because it would seem like
an eternity! Mr. Mangan stated that he trusts the loving opposition side of this
presentation will race by quickly and not seem like an eternity. He stated that he
appreciates the opportunity to respond this issue. As you know, its not a simple issue, it
has many facets to it. And, to that end, he has collected a lot of information which he has
presented to the Council. He asked the City Clerk, John Voorde, to pass out the binders
that they have complied information for the Council to have tonight. Some of the
material the Council has seen before, some of it is new, it will give the Council a
convenient place to refer to the material. The binders will allow the Council an
opportunity to review the many documents that have come to Council. Mr. Mangan
stated that he will be referring to several tabs in the binders during his presentation. Mr.
Mangan stated that he would like to begin his presentation by showing a DVD entitled
“It’s Not Gay” Mr. Mangan stated that he spent time with the individual in the DVD, Mr.
Kermit Rainman, he recently met with him and discussed issues of former homosexuals
who have for one reason or another come out of homosexuality to live very successfully
heterosexual lives.
Video – Kermit Rainman – (A copy is on file with the Office of the City Clerk)
Mr. Mangan advised that there are others who have left the homosexual life style, and are
afraid to come forward to speak in public for fear of being harassed by those whose life
style they have chosen to leave. He asked the question of what really is being done here,
why are we here. Many others have suggested what we are here to do and not to do. He
would like to suggest that at such a late hour this evening in an elongated discussion that
has been going on for a few years, because people matter, and the truth matters. Because
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getting the public policy right matters. He has spent 25 years of his life reaching out to
people all around the world. He has spent a great deal of time with those who struggle
with homosexuality. He stated that he has aided many people in coming to know
freedom from that struggle, through Christ and through their faith. He has personally
engaged with individuals who have suffered through AIDS, who wish to God, that they
had never taken the first step. He stated that he can with full conscience and full honesty
and complete passion, come here tonight and say Bill 29-06 is not a pro-homosexual
ordinance. Because if the Council were to pass it, and to affirm the behaviors there will
be people, many of the people, perhaps some of the people in the room tonight who will
die, because of the dangerous practices associated with homosexuality in the GLBT
lifestyle. He too has fought the Civil Rights battles, he came to high school in the middle
of race riots. He noted that he has raised over $30 million dollars for charity in this
community for people of all races. He was the first to recruit and hire minorities and
women in the United Way and promote their participation, some of whom are in the room
tonight. He stated that he serves on the board of the Urban League, and frankly, it is hard
for him to talk in terms of color because he doesn’t see it that way. He noted that
wherever his goes, he feels at home in whether in China, Haiti or the West Side, North
Side, South Side, or the Northeast Side, whether in the suburbs or whether in the inner
city. He has one of the same views as one of the sponsors of this bill. Mr. Mangan stated
that he and Roland have had many conversations over the years and Roland has told him
directly that he is opposed to discrimination in all of its forms, and will be until the day
he dies. Mr. Mangan stated that so does he.This is not an issue that is based on race, it
is not based on an immutable quality, that distinction, that needs to be understood. The
attorneys need to address the legal ramifications, but the Courts have never recognized
sexual practices as the basis of a special class and in particular what is being brought
before the Council now, because it fails every test. It is not immutable, it’s changeable, it
choose able, it’s repairable. There is no united common charateristic that unites this
class. Mr. Mangan referred to the young doctor who spoke earlier, with eloquence about
religion being a choice, she was a great speaker. But the Supreme Court considers
religion a faith choice sacred because the founders made it immutable in the first
amendment of the constitution and that is why the two are different. What is being talked
about now, it that taking immutable legal rights and applying them to changeable sexual
preferences, sexual orientations, sexual practices. The definitions that we would have to
use to defined these sexual practices, these classes could not be read in a High School
civics lesson. The newspaper could not print those definitions. Now, there are
individuals in the Community who passionately believe that they are right, they
desperately want the Council to put into law, that what they are doing in okay. They
want to be affirmed by being agreed with. There are many who love each and every
person in the room and don’t need to affirm their behavior to demonstrate that love.
Their personhood can be affirmed by speaking the truth in love, by lovingly opposing
their behavior, even though they have for the time being identified that behavior as being
their true identity. When it is simply a part of their behavior pattern and could change
and does change for thousands of individuals. 25% of adolescents think at one point or
another that they might be homosexual, because of their awkwardness in dealing with
persons of the opposite sex. By the time they reach 22 years of age, 75% of that group no
longer have any thought that they are homosexual. There will be more discussion tonight
about the medical problems, biological problems, the destruction of parts of the body,
serious deadly sexually transmitted diseases, citing the centers for disease control in
study after study, the information is in the binders that were passed out. A book could be
produced from every tab in the binder passed out to the Council and it would not contain
all of the information that is there documenting the harms of this lifestyle. Mr. Mangan
stated that his heart goes out to every single person that has stood at the microphone and
who has aimed their frustration, anger, an animosity at him or at the good people who
have waited for hours and politely listened while waiting for their opportunity to speak.
He stated that his heart goes out to them, because he feels that their pain is real, even
though their conclusions are false. He stated that his heart goes out to them because the
one thing that they want to hear is the one thing that cannot, must not say and that
homosexual’s sexual are equal, are healthy or are good. That makes this circumstances
entirely different than dealing with issues of race, religion and ethnic background. If you
ask all of the citizens in the State of Indiana, do you want homosexuals and GLBT’s to be
treated fairly, nine out of ten would say yes. This is evidence that we do not need this
ordinance. But, if you ask that same group of people if they want the weight of law to
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supercede your faith beliefs in the way you conduct your business and the way you
manage your property and the way you live in your home, or happen to have a duplex and
in all these matters, do you want the force of law to state that homosexual, bi-sexual,
trans-sexual sex acts, cross-dressing is equivalent to heterosexuality and to the family
structures that are present. You would get the same number to say no. And, in the only
place where we would have voter weigh in on this, it was seen in the last Presidential
Election, another homosexual special right came up. In eleven states, gay marriage was
on the ballot, and out of those eleven states the vote was no! Some have referred to the
term the “homosexual agenda” as if it were Bigfoot. As if once has never seen it, as if it
didn’t exist, as if there weren’t schools of attorney’s across the United States fighting
battles with pro-family attorneys all across the nation. So, in the interest of full
disclosure in education, he referred to tab #9, he is not suggesting that Catherine Pittman
or that Hank Mascotte or South Bend Equality is part of a vast left wing conspiracy. He
suggested that speaker after speaker comes and says passionately, this has nothing to do
with gay marriage, it has nothing to do with redefining the family, it has nothing to do
with any of the things on his petition. He noted in tab #9 the page from the IndyStar.com
from Mary Byrne, who operates a bookstore on East Street that caters to gays and
lesbians, “the proposal’s, passage is just a start.” “The push at this point needs to be
working to defeat the state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.” He
believes that every speaker that has spoken before him tonight has been honest, he
doesn’t believe that they are trying to be deceptive or trying to mislead the Council. But
from adopting passed Adult Business Ordinances that it is not the local problem down the
street, it the million dollar porn attorney who walks up a picks up your ordinance and
tries to make hay with it. It will be the special attorney’s that are fighting this out, who
will come in and take one of the tragic situations that may not have any validity in law,
maybe more about someone being unkind in any form of recognizable discrimination and
turn this proposed ordinance into a club to beat business owners who have faith. The
exclusions that have been suggested over again about religious institutions are really
geared to a really small percentage because it is only a few that have a statement listed in
their mission statement, it is something that attorney’s could run loop holes through. The
church is not the building that we meet in on Sunday, it is the sum total of all the
household and businesses and property and all of life. It’s a seven day a week experience
and that is why the faith community is not at all happy with the notion of this tiny little
exclusion for their building. Nor would they accept it if it were somewhat broader, but
still affirmed the legitimacy of homosexual behavior, because the Church has at its root a
deeply held conviction, that to stand by silently or to affirm a behavior that leads to death
is to stand by while you watch someone drive through a bridge that is out to their demise.
And the compassion of the church is what brings them here, not their hatred. He stated
that he has not heard one person here from the church run down homosexual or use
derogatory terms. He sees no evidence of discrimination here. He stated that he saw
some people that were afraid, they were afraid to say that they were homosexual, because
if they let their clients know that they were homosexual, they might have a bad reaction.
That was one of things that was cited as an incident. It never happened, it was in the
mind of the person who felt it. What they felt was very real to them, but it didn’t exist, it
didn’t happen. How can the Council possibly consider such things as evidence? Other
than the fact that the person needs assistance in finding confidence in their life choices.
Incidentally, on of the higher psychological problems associated with the GLBT lifestyle
is paranoia, and a number of other psychological disorders. One would think that if you
were to go to foreign countries where they have a more open and a more sexual
permissive environment, that those stats would go down. We are constantly told the lie,
that the reason that there is so many feelings of desperation and so many feelings of
suicide in the GLBT community is society’s lack of acceptance. Yet, when you look at
the society’s that are most open, you have the same conditions, high level of drug and
alcohol abuse, high levels of psychological issues, high levels of guilt. Those are not
imposed by a misunderstanding society, those come from deep within a person’s sole.
Mr. Mangan advised that he is not here tonight to decide what a person’s conscience
should tell them, but there is a place that they can get help. He stated that he does not
think that it is the South Bend Common Council honestly, He thinks that the place to go
is to the Lord with this. But there is so much more and there is so much here, that needs
to be dealt with, when you flip the page in the binder under tab 9, there is the page
entitled the “Demands.” These are published written national demands, they were
published as part of the gay rights platform in 1972. There is also a set of demands one
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for the federal and state. There are also demands that were published in 1993 as part of
the platform of demands and their related items when the march on Washington occurred.
Mr. Mangan stated that when you see stickers that say
“Protect our Children” and somebody comes up indignantly and says how can you say
that, aren’t they exaggerating! He noted the circled items in tab #9 which were
repeatedly part of the national homosexual agenda asked for lower the age of consent
laws and ask for no age of consent. Ask for sexual education about what homosexual sex
is by homosexual by all ages including kindergarten. It’s not Big Foot it exists! Its in
writing, it’s in the binders that were passed out to the Council. They say they want to
redesign the family, and that they want to have an allowance for any number of people in
a marriage. Mr. Mangan stated that they don’t want re-engineering of the family, they
mean it, because it is real. This is an agenda and it is being pushed all over the country,
its being battled in courts all across the United States. Mr. Mangan then referred to the
beginning of the binders, with the eleven out of eleven states that said no to gay marriage,
for essentially the same reasons that you should be saying no to this special rights
initiative, there are two recent court decisions, one in the State of New York and one in
Georgia, both of which rejected those same sex marriage advocates for much of same
reason that they are asking to reject this same sex, bisexual and trans-gendered basis for a
special class. Seems like a lot of people have gotten confused by the statement “special
rights are not civil rights” he asked all present here to night to hold up their posters in the
audience. Special Rights are not Civil Rights. Kermit Rainman stated that Special
Rights undermine Constitutional Rights. In order to give Special Rights out to the GLBT
Community, you infringe upon the First Amendment Rights of those people who
disagree. In those balancing acts they are dealing with a sacred right the founding fathers
put in first. That was a right to our faith. You might hear debates about what the Bible
says about it. Mr. Mangan referred to tab #12, he stated that there are quotes from the
Old Testament, New Testament, from Jesus in the Gospels and a number of related
passages. In more than one version of the scripture, so that it can been seen that the
scriptures that are the basis of the holy faith of nearly 2 billion people in the world that
call themselves Christians, is unmistakable in its condemnation in rejection of the action
of homosexual sex acts. It has nothing to do with the chapter on shell fish that everyone
likes to bring up. You read the chapter Leviticus 18, it is talked about in the same breath
as incest and having sex with animals and having sex with your mother, your aunt, and
that is the basis on which it is mentioned in context in scriptures. Mr. Mangan stated is
the scripture being mean, is God being mean, No, he is saying that if you do these things,
that it is going to harm you. For six thousand years, they have been saying that it harms
the society, it’s against nature. You cannot perpetuate a society based on homosexual
practice. You have to have practicing heterosexuals to produce children to go on. Civil
Rights Leaders and leaders in the community like Juan Manigault, published his opinion,
unfortunately, he was unable to be here tonight. Mr. Manigault stated that civilizations
are lost at this point, when you redefine the sexual morals of the society and redefine the
family no civilization has endured one generation past the time that embraced
homosexuality as normal. There are good reasons, why we should have the courage to
look into our friends eyes in the Community and say I understand your pain, I understand
that you want to hear, I embrace you sexual preference. But cannot do that, and really
care for you. He stated that they must speak the truth in love and say that he cares for
you enough to urge the person to seek out and not to pursue a lifestyle that could shorten
your life. Do not pursue a lifestyle that is going to bring you great heartache. That is
why folks are gather here tonight, they have come here lovingly to say it’s wrong, we
cannot agree with it, they hope that they will take the opportunity to get help, come to
reparative therapy and look to Christ. There are many other things in the binders, he
pointed out the petition. The petition states to please inform the local, state and federal
elected and appointed officials are Councils, Commissions and Boards that they are
unalterably opposed to the Homosexual and GLBT agenda to obtain special rights for
homosexuals and GLBT’s through all of the following methods but not limited to these
methods only. It fairly precise, adding the terms gender identity and sexual orientation to
corporate municipal philanthropic anti-discrimination statements. He stated that that is
pretty plain and clear. Mr. Mangan stated that he read the ordinance backward and
forward and this statement seems to be dead on this ordinance. It also says, that those
who have signed it are opposed to offering same sex marriage or same sex civil unions,
or to creating hate crimes legislation that criminalizes speech that disagrees with
homosexuals and GLBt’s like public Bible reading, like what is happening right now, in
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the nation of Canada, the nation just to the North, who started down this same slippery
slope, of trying to equate sexual practice with discrimination and now have preachers in
prison for reading the same versus of the bible and free to put in this binder and could
read out loud. They don’t have that right, because people mixed up the issue and went
down the wrong path. Well intended, but went the wrong path. Mandatory or voluntary
sensitivity training of employees and officials in government offices as well as students
in schools. Mandatory or voluntary homosexual and GLBT sex education for any grade
level for the schools, mandatory or voluntary sensitivity training for employees in private
or publicly held businesses. Mr. Mangan stated that we have all hear the horror stories,
we know how many people has lost their jobs because they simply did not sign on to a
pro-homosexual statement in their places of business. The City of San Francisco put a
gun to he head of the major airlines and said that they can’t land in the airport unless you
do this. So much for arguing intellectually or arguing in a way that expects to win today
based on principle. He has seen the homosexual movement bully these companies
around, but we have also seen a number of people that said you know what, it you are
going to go that way, I’m going to boycott you, I’m no longer going to invest in your
company. Ford is in trouble right now over this very issue. One only has to wait to see
how low they will sink before they reverse themselves yet again going back and forth on
this issue. Some people said it is good for business, he doesn’t know anybody in business
who is eager to have this come to town. Most of the developers are saying that it is going
to create another barrier. Most of the developers are already frustrated with the tax base
and many development issues and they don’t want to see another barrier created to
develop our community. There are many fine young people who leave the community
for bigger and brighter shores. He dare say it is not many, who are leaving because we
have not had this ordinance. For the Cities who do pass these, there is almost no use of
them whatsoever. There is almost no complaints filed, very few have ever been proven.
Very few have every been proven in advance of one of these ordinances being filed. He
suggested that it is no more than a political attempt to offer legitimacy on a moral issue to
homosexual sexual activity. That is what many capable speakers are going to share with
you tonight. He encouraged the Council to examine the evidence that is here from
Attorney’s from Pepperdine University to the University of Notre Dame to the Liberty
Counsel. Liberty Counsel goes into depth explaining the four criteria. There are going to
be many fine speakers who are going to share with you. Mr. Mangan stated in closing,
his official portion of the remonstrance against this. Because thousands of men and
women have found freedom from all of the afflictions being described here through faith
and through counseling, his pray is that those who may have come into the room tonight,
here from the homosexual and GLBT community, maybe with some anger and some hurt
in their hearts will lovingly lay that anger in the loving arms of Jesus, who can set them
free. He asked them to join him in loving them in this special way of lovingly opposing
these harmful behaviors in such a way that it could save their life.
Jay Dunlap, 61623 Kingston Court, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he has four children,
three of them who attend school in South Bend at St. Matthew’s Grade School. He is
here tonight to speak because of his families experience similar to others that have
spoken here tonight. He stated that he has a loved one who experiences same sex
attractions. Unlike some of the others that have already spoken, he saw his brother go
through, was very difficult and painful. When he would hear in the media and in various
reports, that what his brother was experiencing was healthy and normal, it did not match
with what he was seeing. He saw his brother in and out of the hospital either because of
physical problems or because of psychological problems he was suffering because of the
same sex attractions. Mr. Dunlap stated that his brother died young. He was not quite 27
years old and died 20 years ago. Mr. Dunlap advised that he wanted to understand what
his brother went through. He found an organization called NARTH National Association
for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, which is an excellent resource because it
pulls together all kinds of in depth research that has been and published in professional
journals that looks at the psychological, social and physical consequences of the gay
lifestyle. Mr. Dunlap stated that he saw in the facts that were presented, exactly what his
brother experienced. Starting that with the fact, as a teenager, he was seduced at an
athletic club, by an older man. Mr. Mangan referred to the National Agenda, that very
explicitly said that it wanted to get rid of age of consent laws. The very same thing that
he saw his brother suffer from for years until he died, because of that kind of experience.
Mr. Dunlap stated that he wanted to also speak on behalf of his family, not only because
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of his brother, but also because of his children. The ordinance before the Council this
evening, would have much more of a direct impact on services that the church provides
to this city, then say for instances what has happened in the state of Massachusetts. The
Supreme Court in that state decided to create homosexual marriage. One of the
unintended consequences of that supreme court decision has been that Catholic Charities,
long time provided of adoption services in Boston, has had to shut down its operation,
because the church would not consent to placing children in homosexual families. The
law now is interpreted to mandate it. A State wide decision saying that you must have
gay marriage means that you cannot discriminate against homosexual in adoption. Mr.
Dunlap questioned how this ordinance would effect Catholic Charities here is South
Bend, through which he has adopted three of his children. How would it affect a school
like St. Matthew’s where he sends his children. The language that Mr. Mangan referred
to, seems very narrowly defined to protect religious educators and ministers. What about
the science teacher, who is going to teach biology to the junior high kids, in a way that
naturally of necessity touches on moral issues. What about the literature teachers, who
much choose and teach literature that touches on the full range of human experience
including important moral issues. If St. Matthews and other religious schools in this
town are subject to the ordinance before the Council tonight, he would suggest that there
is no way to protect those schools and the integrity of those schools of faith, be they
Christian, Jewish, whatever! He thanked the Council for their kindness and leadership on
this issue and the many prospective's that are brought here tonight.Mr. Dunlap stated on
a final note that it was noted 79% of Indiana Residents agreed with this statement in a
poll that the GLBT Community deserves the same civil rights protection as anyone else.
He agrees with that, everyone does, but the ordinance before the Council tonight, is not
the same civil rights as everyone else, its special rights.
Dr. Charles Rice, Professor Emeritus, Notre Dame Law School, 59800 Tyholland Lane,
Mishawaka, Indiana stated that he mailed on Saturday, to each member of the Council the
article that he had in the South Bend Tribune on Friday. He rather not rehash that, but
had two points to raise that may be overlooked. The first point is that contrary to
statements that have come from members of this Council as well as others, this ordinance
does not exempt churches. You have to be very clear about that.The existing ordinance
gives to church schools a limited exception for hiring employees and for selecting
students. Now, this new amendment in Section 127 e has a general provision which says
that protections in this article against discriminatory practices with regard gender identity
and sexual orientation shall not apply to decisions essentially of a church school or any
activity of a church when they affect the mission, practice or belief of that church. Now,
that is a later pronouncement and it is a general pronouncement, it’s a debatable question
that which he stated he did not know the answer and that’s the problem with this
ordinance. He stated that in 49 years as a lawyer, he can’t recall having read any
legislative proposal that wasn’t more poorly drafted. This is extraordinarily vague and
imprecise. It is entirely possibly that this section 127 e overrides the protections in 128 e
and h. As to hiring employees and selecting students, he stated that he doesn’t know the
answer to that and neither does the Council. That’s one of the problems with the
ordinance. The second point he stated is what this ordinance does, is put into the hands
of activists a weapon of intimidation. Which is extraordinary, others have described the
differences between gender identity and sexual orientation on the one hand and the
existing civil rights on the other hand, race, religion, disability and so on. The big
difference is behavior; gender identity and sexual orientation are explicitly, and without
limit key to behavior. Behavior is protected, explicitly and without limit. Now he stated
that he has had experience and still do of being on the legal committees of several legal
defense outfits, the American Center for Law and Justice, for example the Thomas Moore
Law Center, Ann Arbor and a couple of others. He has been involved in these cases, and
when Mr. Mangan talked about the attorney’s coming in, he knows what he is talking
about. This thing provides for activists a weapon of intimidation where the process
routinely time and time again, throughout the country has been for the ACLU to come in
to town, to get a case and then present it to the school board, or the church or whatever it
might be that has a religious issues and so on, and the choice that they present is this
either do what we want, put this instruction in the school, take this out, put that down,
take that down, whatever, do what we want or we sue and you got to hire a lawyer, and
you got to pay our lawyer if you loose. This ordinance provides not only for damages
and penalties, it provides in housing and employment cases, for attorney’s fees and it
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does not provide incidentally, for attorney fees for the respondent even if he wins. So
you see what is going to happen, he stated that he would guarantee it. The people will
come in here, and the choice will be presented to the Catholic School or whatever other
agency do what we tell you or go hire your lawyer. And if it’s an employment case, pay
our lawyer too! He has recently been involved in a case, where the bill for the ACLU’s
lawyer was $450,000.00, were not talking chump change. So in five minutes that all he
wanted to do is make those two points because, we tend to overlook this, and tend to
regard this as some kind of benign thing, it isn’t, it’s the worst piece of legislative trash,
he believes in his experience. He is not throwing rocks at the Council, because you
didn’t write it, the definitions come from the Indianapolis law, and this thing came from
some national outfit and he thinks it is perhaps purposely vague. But it is extraordinarily,
vague and imprecise and opens the door to abuse and oppression.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked Mr. Rice if he read the existing ordinance that governs the
Human Rights Commission?
Mr. Rice stated that yes he did.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked Mr. Rice his opinion of it? In terms of how it is written?
Mr. Rice stated that he had no problems with the existing ordinance. He may have
written parts of it differently.
Ms. Pfeifer asked Mr. Rice if it was a piece of trash.
Mr. Rice apologized for getting exuberant. He stated that didn’t mean to.
Ms. Pfeifer stated that it was alright. She asked Mr. Rice again if he thought that the
existing ordinance was a piece of trash.
Mr. Rice stated no it is not.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked if the present one is well written.
Mr. Rice stated that he found no comparably objections to the present one, compared to
the objections to this one being presented tonight.
Jon Wilson, 5625 Abshire Drive, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is a pastor of
thirteen years, and been in the helping profession for a number of years. He stated that he
has a number of friends on both side of this proposed amendment. He stated that this
argument is not about people, it is about behavior. Mr. Wilson stated that everyone can
love one another, disagree and be friends, because he has friends on both sides of this
argument. But, this something that must be addressed. Mr. Wilson read into the record a
statement “I have attended these three open meetings at the County-City Building,
regarding the proposed amendment to protect the gay community from discrimination.
Although the people have been polite, the topic is loaded with tension and potentially
devastating ramifications. How naïve and short sided to believe the impact of this bill to
be limited only to the specific actions. It was interesting that the South Bend Tribune ran
a series in the paper about the personal and societal high price of teenage pregnancies at
the same time that one of the meetings was being conducted in May 2006. Our young
people pay the price with a seemingly endless cycle of poverty and fatherlessness with no
end in sight. My generation in the 1960’s opened wide the door of a celebration of sexual
freedom. Of which none of us understood how far reaching and destructive impact
would go. We along with our children have eaten the fruit of our rebellion impacted our
families and our society. Now, we stand again at another door, for the same empty
promise, that sexual freedom is something to be celebrated and legitimized. He proposed
a questioned that he has not heard anyone ask publicly in these meetings. What is the
will of God about this issue? He speaks as a pastor at this point, many do not care but for
many others in this City it is the primary question to be considered about this amendment.
Our God is both loving and holy, he loves people and shines in the brightness of moral
purity. As with sexual immorality practiced between both males and females, these act of
homosexuality are in direct rebellion to the nature of his will. He will is clear in the
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scriptures, he hates all forms of immorality. How long can we as individuals and as a
society walk in a rebellion to God, and then ask for his blessings. Please know that the
God of heaven cares nothing about out political correctness, when it opposes his best for
the world that he loves. He turned now to the children that will have to live with the
decision that will be made here tonight. In the name of authority and society endorse
what the God of heaven has called sin.Their rebellion causes many who follow to
stumble and open the doors to a wake of broken lives. God would have all of us treat one
another with respect and kindness and embrace the moral light of purity that he has
prescribed in the scriptures and demonstrated in the life of his son Jesus. It is not only
God’s will that concerns me, but the will of those who are the founders of the gay agenda
in America. It is foolish for one to turn their head and not acknowledge that there is a
gay agenda in this country, that is aggressively pushed by its leadership. It appears that
they will stop at nothing until their promiscuity is celebrated and accepted by the general
populous in America. Have you ever seen the video of the gay day parade in San
Francisco? If so, no one could argue that there is such an agenda. In the video, float after
float depicting homosexual acts each seemingly trying to increase the shock factor there
was a float built by the North American Man Boy Society, this organization celebrates
homosexual sex between men and minor boys. What would the organizers of the Gay
Day Parade allow proponents child molestation in their celebration. It makes him as why
do birds of feather really flock together. Two questions that should be considered:
Should this amendment be passed in the City of South Bend, how long will it be until
there is pressure placed upon the schools to host professionals who will be recruited to re-
educate the children about the normality and freedom of homosexuality. When will a
Michiana pastor of a bible believing church be confronted by the Human Rights
Commission for in sighting prejudice or discrimination against homosexuals simply
because he or she may read scriptures that teach all sexual immorality including
homosexuality is a sin. He prayed that we turn our eyes to heaven and asked for God’s
will to be done on earth as it is in Heaven may we do his will.
Fred Everett, 22160 White Spruce Court, South Bend, Indiana, thanked the Council for
their graciousness in giving so many people the opportunity to address this bill. He stated
that there is no inconsistency with being in favor of civil rights and having respect for all
human beings and truly caring about them while at the same time opposing this
amendment. There is not any consistency. Mr. Mangan did a good job of describing
why that is. The issue really is behavior and those of expression.The weight of the law
should not come down against people who for sincere and religious reasons truly believe
that certain types of behavior are objectionable. It is not simply just about who people
are but what they do. Having such a broad protection is essentially having a special right
or protection. Everyone should have their rights and civil rights respected, but not
because of their behaviors. The fact is that we only protect things that are good. No one
protects something that is bad, that doesn’t make sense. Part of the Council’s job is to
see what things are good and what things are bad and hopefully to try to encourage
people to do the goods things and discourage them from doing the bad things. When you
say a certain behavior deserves protection how can one not conclude that what is being
said is that this is something that is good, because it is being protected. Otherwise, why
protect something that is bad, and so there is no way to escape the fact that passing an
amendment of this sort is sending out a very clear message that this type of behavior
deserves respect and protection and that it gives it legitimacy and validation it would not
otherwise have. Mr. Dunlap raised the issue about catholic charities in the state of
Massachusetts, who for more than 100 years were providing adoption services, and now
suddenly, because of their clear ethical positions about believing that this would be
immoral to place a child in a home with two homosexual adults, they no longer can do
their work that they have done so well for over a century. Where is the tolerance there?
Where is the willingness to be respectful of others? He happened to pick up today a
children’s story at the South Bend Public Library, it is called King and King. He stated
that he read it for the first time today, and it tells about the story of a young prince, who’s
mother is very over bearing, and who basically gives the prince an ultimatum that he
needs to get married. The Prince starts to interview all of these various Princesses. The
prince’s mother wants the interview done very quickly, so ultimately, the Prince cannot
find any princesses that he likes, but he does finds a prince, who he falls in love with. In
the end, he ends up marrying him and so they are known as King and King. The last
page has a very graphic picture of them both kissing each other with hearts by their
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mouths. The reason his brought up this book tonight is because this book is located in the
children’s section of the South Bend Public Library, and he is not saying that it should be
banned, but to say that this book was actually used for second graders, in Massachusetts
this past year. He urged the Council not to pass this amendment tonight. (Time limit was
invoked)
Dr. Phil Sutton, PhD, 528 Ostemo Place, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is a licensed
clinical social worker, marriage and family therapist, school psychologist in Indiana, and
an licensed psychologist in Michigan and Ohio. In that capacity he serves as part of his
work children, children from pre-school age to high school and he is also the father of
four and at last count a grandfather of three. Dr. Sutton said that when he spoke last on
May 10, 2006, he closed with the comments with the following words: “Offering special
rights to persons acting in ways that are harmful to their own medical, psychological and
relational health would only enable their risk of harm and prevent there receiving the
hope and the help in which they may need. He also said that such an ordinance would
also disaffirm our children. Presenting to them the GLBT lifestyles as healthy ways to
live when they are not. Dr. Sutton referred to a research study in the NARTH brochure
that he delivered to the Council at their office last week. In a 1992 study, of over 34,000
Minnesota teenagers, one-fourth, roughly 26% of twelve year olds reported that they
were uncertain if they were heterosexual or homosexual. This compared with the only 2-
3% of adults who self-lable as homosexual. This means by his calculation that roughly
90% of the twelve year olds who may be uncertain about their sexual orientation would
be falsely identified as persons who would label themselves as gay when they became
adults. With that study in mind, he offered three points: 1. The earlier that a young
person begins a mood altering behavior the more likely it is that he/she will develop a self
defeating habit, compulsion or addiction. Whether smoking tobacco, using drugs or
engaging in sexual behaviors, whether the same or opposite sex, the younger a person
starts, the harder it is to stop. Many adult men regret that they ever began viewing
pornography over the internet, when they were younger. The behaviors typically of the
GLBT lifestyles all to commonly become habitual, compulsive and frequently addictive
to those who practice them. The younger a person starts the more difficult to stop. What
may feel fun and free in the beginning all too soon entraps. 2. The proposed ordinance if
passed would give young people the false message that the GLBT and lifestyles are not
as dangerous as unbiased research shows them to be. He has spoken previously about the
medical, psychological and relational dangers of these behaviors along with the NARTH
brochures that he distributed last week. 3. In other parts of the Country after ordinances
like Bill 29-06 have been passed, local school systems have been petitioned to provide so
called gay affirming teaching and also counseling programs in the schools. In such
programs students who are not confident that they are heterosexual too often are
encouraged to explore the homosexual lifestyle. Again, what feels fun and free in the
beginning often entraps. He asked the Council again, not to approve Bill 29-06, it is not
in the best interest either of our current or future children, or of those who currently live
one of the lifestyles.
Dr. Dave Jenkins, Pastor, Calvary Baptist Church, 50596 Mayfair, South Bend, Indiana,
commended the Council for addressing this issue. He appreciates Mr. Kelly and Ms.
Pfeifer’s passion for this and this issue needs to be resolved. Dr. Jenkins agreed that this
is a critical issue of discrimination and as a Pastor he preaches against this. He wishes
that everyone could embrace what Confucius, Moses and Jesus taught us, to do unto
others, as we would have done onto us. He opposes this for two reasons, in spite of the
fact that he is a preacher he will keep them brief. First of all spiritual, what concerns him
in this issues is when you begin to enter into the area of sexuality and try to legislate it,
what he does not hear is issues of right and wrong, or to quote a famous book from a
psychiatrist Dr. Meneger “whatever became of sin” we don’t address that issue in this.
As a pastor, this concerns him, he appreciates Bishop D’Arcy addressing it in the South
Bend Tribune, and as a protestant he says this is something that has to be considered. It
is a critical issue and need to be careful, when you go into these areas. Whether it is
heterosexual or homosexual those are issues that need to be explored. As a pastor he has
counseled with people in homosexuality and he has shown them respect and
consideration in that process. The second issue why he is opposed to it is politically.
Fifteen years ago, he was in Palm Springs, California, pasturing, he was on the Human
Rights Commission there. They made history there as well as he hear what was going to
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happen tonight, this is going around the country, and at that time, they were assured that
there was not a homosexual agenda on this issue. But last year in June, he was in San
Francisco for a number of weeks, and the news had a lot about what is in the current
California legislature, about teaching homosexuality, to the kindergarten through fourth
grade children. This is an important issue and there is more to this, and we need to
address the issue. This is not a civil rights issue, he implored the Council to continue to
pursue it. He has Pastored in the South Bend area for twenty-years, and we are great
people here, we are ahead of the curve, in many areas, but this is not the solution. He
believes that there is another way this can be done. He encouraged the Council to oppose
it and continue to explore it, Mr. Kelly and Ms. Pfeifer keep pushing the issue. He stated
that he is opposed to discrimination in every form, but this is not a good solution to it.
Please oppose this bill.
Thomas Burnett, 18907 Cleveland Rd., South Bend, Indiana, stated that he wanted to talk
about his rights tonight. He has not heard one other person even discuss this aspect of it.
He believes that he has under the constitution the right of free association to associate
with and do business with who he wants to for any reason that he wants to. He owns two
houses in South Bend, and what the Council proposes tonight would make him civilly
liable for substantial damages and attorney’s fees, if he refuses to rent one of his houses
to a homosexual. He is disgusted by homosexuality, he believes that there are a few acts
on the face of this earth that are worst than this, he equates this entirely with bestiality,
incest, child molesting, all those are criminal acts. He sees no difference between
homosexuality and these other criminal acts mentioned. He does not want to do business
with these people, they are evil. The vary nature of what they do is disgusting. He is
disgusted by these people. He feels that this impacts his rights terribly and is totally
against this. He stated that the Council is going to have to look at what this is going to do
not only to him, but to a lot of landlords in South Bend. There are a lot of landlords who
are not going to want to rent to these people. We have already got a lot of vacant houses
in this City, because there aren’t any jobs here. If you make more rules about this kind of
thing, we are going to have a lot more of them. You can start with his two houses,
because he would probably give the City the title, because he doesn’t want to do business
with the homosexuals. He feels he has the right to do business and should have the right,
and absolutely should have the right to do business with who he feels like he should do
business with. He stated that he should not feel like he is put under legal constraints by
the City of South Bend. He considers this proposal an outrage and urged the Council to
reject this.
Nancy M. Hartman, 1709 Lincolnway West, Mishawaka, Indiana, stated that she works
in South Bend, Indiana. Ms. Hartman stated that she did not know if the gentleman that
spoke before her stated whether he was a Christian or not? But she wanted to say that as
a Christian, and a grandma, she stands here and asked the Council to vote against this
proposal. As a Christian, she is in sales not management, she is called to love. Yet, she
is also called to condemn behavior that scripture condemns. She has a lot of practice in
doing this because she is a parent. She loves her kids, but sometimes there are times that
they behave in such a way that she stated that she doesn’t like them. She wanted
everyone here tonight that has spoken on the other side to know that she loves them, and
cannot think of a thing that she wouldn’t do to help them, if they needed it. She stated
that she has probably helped a lot of them at her work, without condemning or judging
them. Ms. Hartman stated however, she is against this. She asked the Council to vote
against this.
Rev. Michael Patton, 707 Sherman Avenue, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he is a
Pastor in this community. He is a leader as well in this community and is asking the
Council not to support this ordinance. He believes that there are other ways that can
solve the issues and the concerns that have been heard tonight. As a Pastor and a leader
in this Community, there are many people within the Community that are a part of the
GLBT group, that he has ministered to, people that he has had to support as well, and as
well he does love them as human beings. He stated that he does not love the acts or
behaviors of the GLBT community. He thinks that as he pleads to the spiritual side of
everyone here and the natural side, please vote against the ordinance tonight, based on all
of the information that the Council has heard from Mr. Mangan, and the No Special
Rights Group. He believes that there needs to be more dialogue on this issue, through
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meetings and discussions to come to a common solution that will address the concerns
that have been presented here. Rev. Patton asked the Council to do the right thing and
vote against the ordinance tonight.
Jan Torma, 901 Wheatly Drive, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she is full-time nursing
faculty at an area college here. She is a registered nurse and a wellness educator, a
community wellness educator, she is here to summarize and conclude her statement that
she began in this room in May, 2006, with Members of the City Council, in which she is
lovingly opposing the special rights initiatives of the GLBT Community. Medically
speaking the homosexual lifestyle is a chosen lifestyle. There is no proof that people are
born homosexual. No gene has been found or discovered, there are no immutable
characteristics such as race, skin color associated with this lifestyle. GLBT individuals
do not qualify for inclusion in this ordinance as a protected class. By promoting this
revised ordinance, the Council is in fact promoting the homosexual lifestyle. There are
devastating health consequences, for individuals who engage in the GLBT lifestyle and
the promotion of this lifestyle will lower the standard of health in the community. She
spoke of the risk of getting anal cancer soaring by 4,000 % in those who engage in anal
intercourse, according to the March 2006 issue of Health Psychology and the National
Association of Research and Therapy of Homosexuality. She spoke about the realities of
anal penetration with a penis, a human fist, and sex toys, that irreparably damage the
tissue and nerve endings in the anus and the rectum, often requiring an irreversible
colostomy. This presents a drastic change in ones activities of daily living and coping
with an altered body image is a huge psychological challenge. In November, 2005 the
Center for Disease Control, issued a warning about an alarming increase in the spread of
Syphilis nationwide, and attributed most of the grow to gay sexual activities. In addition,
there is evidence that antibiotic resistance among homosexual males, is 23.8%, eight
times the rate for heterosexual males. The genital human papillomavirus (HPV) is the
most common STD in the United States and it has no cure. We know that HPV is the
cause of genital warts, there is a growing body of evidence demonstrating its association
with anogenital cancers. HPV differs from other STDs in it mode of transmission, it
spreads from skin to skin, it is that kind of contact. HPV infects the entire genital area;
the penis, scrotum, vulva and surrounding areas. Condoms do not cover the scrotum, nor
most of the other areas that can be infected with the virus. According to the CDC, there
is an extremely high prevalence of HPV infection among homosexual and bisexual men
and almost universal infection among HIV positive individuals. She stated that she was
lecturing in a pharmacology class for nursing students s a few weeks ago. According to
the text by Lilley, in the United States unprotected anal intercourse among male
homosexuals is still the most common cause of new cases of the Human
Immunodeficiency Virus infection. HIV can have a dormant phase of 10 years or more
before giving rise to AIDS, acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. AIDS is the end
stage of the disease process caused by HIV. There is no cure and it is ultimately fatal. It
results in a severe disorder of the body’s immune system functioning, leading to an
inability of the body to fight off disease. She stated that they want to build a healthy
society, not one that is built of sexually transmitted diseases, for which there is no cure.
They want to build a civilization of life not a civilization of death. She appealed to the
Council, to their intellectual honesty and strongly urge the Council, to vote against
adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the ordinance governing the South Bend
Human Rights Commission.
Mary Grabill, 22361 Kern Road, South Bend, Indiana, stated that she is a nurse and she
teaches, and sometimes does a little counseling She wanted to let the people here tonight
to know that God is a healer, and a deliverer. There is nothing that we can go through
that God is not deeper. He is deeper and a healer and a deliverer and no matter what
people say, that he will give us the strength to go on. She is saying this because she is a
black woman, and it seems like every time that when something comes up, it always
about being black and civil rights, well that’s good because homosexuality and
lesbianism, and bi-sexual and all the other stuff doesn’t come under the subject of human
rights, because black people were born black, being a homosexual, being a lesbian that is
something that you choose to go into. That lifestyle is chosen or introduced into that
lifestyle. God so loved the World, that he gave his own son, not just for black or white or
whatever, for the whole World, because we are all his creation. God wants all of us to be
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healed, delivered and made free. But, we have to want to be what the creator made us to
be.
Stuart Clark, 1860 St. Michaels Court, South Bend, Indiana, stated that he has lived there
for three years, grew up in the New Carlisle area, a small town. He knew of one
homosexual individual in that town. The whole town knew about it, he worked in the
Library. He never knew what happened to him. Mr. Clark stated that he worked for over
forty years electrician, and he worked with a man, that he heard was homosexual. He did
not abuse him, he talked with him about the job and job related work. Mr. Clark stated
that over time he made some signs in reference to a code that he heard about. Mr. Clark
stated that he is concerned about the folks that believe that they are locked in. Mr. Clark
referenced a book Psycho-Cybernetics written by Maxwell Maltz, written in 1960, it is
still on the bookshelves, he saw that with two upgrades probably since computers have
become so popular. The opening statement that he made in the book that’s all he had to
read was “we are what we think we are” and of course this man was a plastic surgeon,
who worked with famous, beautiful, handsome people who wanted him to change their
faces. But he discovered what they really needed was for them to take a different look at
themselves and do some analysis, with counseling; he understands that, they could
change without the surgery.Another reference is the 7 Habits of Highly Effective
People. Mr. Clark referenced a couple of words out of that book: “For every impulse we
have as Human Beings we are not dogs, we have the ability, really the privilege, of
making a choice. We make a choice for every impulse comes into our lives. He had to
make a choice to get out of the chair he was sitting in to come up here to speak. But he
thought that if he doesn’t speak now, shame on him. He stated that he sees a
deterioration in this country, that has come along ever since, he guessed, Judge Black,
who decided to take religion out of politics, the separation of church and state. This has
been implied in so many of these cases that now Christians cannot even speak for
themselves hardly, on the street. The other reference is of course the Ten
Commandments. He looked at the civil law side of it, a mans property rights were
protected in that, Though shall not steal, his life is protected, Though shall not murder,
his family and wife were protected, They were not to commit adultery. But the thing
that really impressed him about that was before it was written, it was written with a
promise, God had told these people if you will do these things, I will put none of these
diseases upon you, and this is what happened with the Nation of Israel for centuries as
long as they were obedient, they didn’t have any diseases. When they went the way that
our country is going, they became rampant with diseases and went into slavery. One
more thing under the constitution, were are under that umbrella, you are supposed to
promote the general welfare, not the specific favors.
Luke Bruner, 5818 Winamar Drive, Apt 3-A, Mishawaka, Indiana, stated that he is a
student at Holy Cross College. Thanked the Council for letting him address them today.
The issue at hand that he would like to address is the addition of sexual orientation to list
of causes that a person may not be discriminated for in the City of South Bend. This
issue is an emotionally charged one, yet he believes that many people here tonight agree
with him, that when it comes to writing public policy, it is always better for cooler heads
to prevail. Indeed it is always best for logic and reason to guide us when policy and law
are being framed. He also believes that it is best for policy to be clear and concise and to
say what it really means and implies. Indeed it would be foolish if a lawmaker were to
write our policy shall be to do this, when he or she really intended our policy should be to
do that instead. He examined the term sexual orientation in a big greater detail. This
term seems to be inclusive term, encompassing all sexual orientations, however, yet it
appears that the intention of this legislation and what people here tonight want is not to
encompass all sexual orientations, but in fact only some sexual orientations. If one
consults any number of organizations such as the American Psychological Association,
one encounters a rather exhaustive list of sexual orientations, these include
heterosexuality, pedophilia, homosexuality and a very long list that went on for quite a
few pages. Mr. Bruner stated that he quit looking after three. He stated that he is quite
sure that this City does not want to mandate by force of law, that day care providers may
not discriminate against persons with a pedophiliac sexual orientation. Mr. Bruner stated
that he hopes that he is not mistaken, that this Council is in favor of such a thing, please
correct him. It seems then to a reasonable person, that an inclusive and all encompassing
term is being used, when what is really meant is homosexual, bi-sexual, trans-gendered
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and heterosexual orientation. These are terms that by definition encompass all adults
who seem to have really any sort of sexual attraction to other adults. Some may argue
that those sexual orientations out of those just listed are mental illnesses. And in such do
not deserve this special protection, such persons point out that homosexuality was at one
time considered a mental illness, but in the 1970’s was removed from the category by the
APA. They took a vote on the matter. Surely, these and other conditions could be
removed from the list of mental illnesses, by a popular vote of the APA, meaning they
would then mandate special protections under this law. Others may argue that those
sexual orientations outside of those listed, cross the threshold into criminal activity, and
as such, might not be covered by this law. Mr. Bruner pointed out that only in the last
three years has the Supreme Court overturned sodomy laws, which essentially
criminalized homosexual activity up to that point in several states. Although it may seem
absurd, only a majority vote in the legislature is needed to appeal pedophilia laws or a
court ruling of similar matters. Yet, 50-100 years ago, it would have been absurd to say
anti-homosexual sodomy laws will one day be overturned. Futhermore, this amendment
carries no clause to his understanding excepting orientations deemed to be mental
illnesses or criminal. Finally reaching clarity on sexual orientation, it seems overly
ambiguous for us, and most importantly does not say what is really meant. Yet, these
words and phrases very clearly cover orientation, other than those just listed, and covers
only orientation and not action.He urged the Council not to pass this resolution as stated,
because the resolution does not seem to ask or enforce what it is actually wanted. It is
explained to him as being one thing, and has turned out to be another. He questioned the
purpose of this commission, that investigates such bias’ because political speech is not
receiving extra-special protection, and indeed he could be punished for these very
reasons. (Time limited emposed)
Tom Uebbing, 1737 Brookmede, South Bend, Indiana, stated that this issue can be
summarized as two wrongs don’t make a right!By opposing this legislation, he is not in
anyway condoning the verbal or physical abuse that may have been heard tonight. Mr.
Uebbing, stated that unlike one of the speakers tonight, he is willing to do business with
homosexuals. He stated that he had a couple of ladies come into where he works, one
referred to the other as her partner, the other called her dear. The factors that he objects
to, just don’t come into play with that. He has no animosity towards homosexuals.
However, this is a two-dimensional issue, and existing laws already cover a lot of what
has been brought up tonight. What citizens and the Council cannot ignore however, is
that the basis on which these special rights are being founded involves unnatural and
immoral sexual activity, which should never be elevated for a special place in the law.
Mr. Uebbing stated that he makes a distinction between orientation and the actions. He
because of this inescapable moral dimension of the issue there are limits on the
accommodations that society can give those who are living the gay lifestyle. His
particular concerns, which have been mentioned many, many times before, has to do
with, positions involving youth, role models for youth and the education of youth should
this thing pass. With all the negative medical, physical, moral, emotional effects
mentioned, with those effect in mind, the frequent charges in the press of bigotry, just
don’t stick. By voting no on this proposal, the Council can be quite confident, that such a
decision, involves not bigotry, but setting common sense limits. He stated that he
attending the public hearing chaired by Councilmember Charlotte Pfeifer, held at the
Fiddler’s Hearth in 2004, he was struck by the good qualities of endearing humanity of
some of the gay right supporters who spoke. His appreciation for the goodness and
humanity that he saw in them, could not lead him however, to endorse special rights for
homosexuals. Because then he would not be loyal to the truth or to them. He would not
be their true friend, for love and truth are inseparable. While pro family groups such as
no special rights may be considered the greatest enemy of gay rights supporters, in the
end, they are the best friend that gays ever had, because they are willing to speak the truth
in love, even at the cost of rejection. He humbly asked the Council to vote against this
proposal.
Kevin L. Mitschelen, 16061 Petro Drive, Mishawaka, Indiana, stated that his is a father,
an elder at City Chapel, and married to a great and wonderful wife. He thanked the
Council for believing in democracy, he sees it displayed here tonight.He stated that the
Council is hearing from the Kings and Queens of this land. He wanted the Council to
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know that he is running a campaign, he is running as the 6 District, Representative
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against Mr. Bauer. He is opposed to this ordinance for several reasons. He is opposed as
well to discrimination, whatsoever, in saying that he has to make a distinction of behavior
and genetics. First, from someone who obeys the laws, set up by our creator. The
Creator or God, if you will has established some foundational laws for any society. We
as a society cannot abolish those laws, or we will see the ruin of it. He says this in grace,
knowing full well that he is asking for mercy all the time. He has dedicated his
campaign, to protect organizations like the Boy Scouts, and other parent/church
organizations like what was mentioned before, the Catholic Charities and Hope Rescue
Mission. This ordinance will send a confusing message to their freedoms and by-laws
that are set up. He stated that he could have avoided tonight’s debate, but as a candidate,
he must fight for the foundation of our culture. One of the leaders of this bill spoke about
our creator, the big question is that will we as a community honor the words written in his
book? We are trying to ignore the elephant in the room, the elephant was eluded to in
tonight’s prayer. Mr. Mitschelen stated that quite frankly, his is still trying to figure out
who we pray to will all do respect. Mr. Mitschelen stated that he says this in grace and
mercy, knowing that those words written in the bible make it clear, that he should lay
down his life, if necessary for anyone in this room, this is not a genetics issue, this is one
of behavior. Rights haven’t been violated, this will effect business in a negative and will
cause confusion. Especially those individuals confused about gender. Mr. Mitschelen
further noted that he is for the marriage amendment act as well. He stated that he
worships at a downtown church, he sees children walk through their doors every single
day, many confused. He used to work with teenagers, many of them would come to him,
many came from good homes, some that didn’t come from good homes, he would have to
work with them, love them with a great deal of patience. He stated that he sees a lot
confusion with the kids today, he believes that this would add to their confusion. He
stated that he loves all the people in this room. Mr. Mitschelen advised the City Council
that they have a great charge tonight. Are you going to stay with the foundations that
have been set up for many, many years or are you going to go on your own path? Mr.
Mitschelen suggested that the Council stay with the foundations that have been set up by
our creator.
Joe Sergio, PhD, Organizational Psychologist, 1919 S. Michigan Street, South Bend,
Indiana, stated that he has a master degree clinical psychology, PhD in organizational
behavior management from the University of Notre Dame, researcher by education, and a
businessman by profession, married for 28 years, 4 children, and spent his entire life in
the South Bend area. He found it very interesting as a man looking for factual
information to build off of. Of the kinds of things that haven’t been brought in through
all of these hearings. Some of those things, include the genetic basis for the GLBT
lifestyle. In the first hearings, and speeches, he made a significant number of notes and
the times that it was referred back about having no control that it was all genetic. Yet, he
has challenged anyone to bring information for this, because half of America believes
that there is volumes of genetic research supporting the immutable genetic basis of this.
It does not exist. He still challenges people to bring solid research forward. Mr. Sergio
stated that interestingly enough while his is based upon behavior, that no body wants to
speak about what those behaviors are. The activities that the GLBT lifestyle engages in,
and quite frankly, he did not want to either. He has found research that has been done
where they have done an assessment of what those behaviors are, and he thinks once you
read them, you will see why no one wants to even mention them. Because they are very
difficult, and he is a man who has spent the last 10 years fighting pornography and sexual
addiction and is used to speaking about these subjects, and still he doesn’t want to say
these things and is not going to say these things out loud, because they are that graphic.
Mr. Sergio stated that he can give the Council a copy of that information if they would
like to have a copy. (Time limit imposed) Mr. Sergio stated that he would like to finish
with one sentence. Ed Henry and Ray Thomas, both past chairs of the Human Rights
Commission wanted to be here, they have both spoken out publicly against this
ordinance. Neither of them were able to remain here to speak.
In Rebuttal, Councilmember Kelly stated that Mr. Mangan was eloquent tonight,
however, he respectfully disagrees with some of his statements tonight. The statement
that was made throughout the objections tonight that this is a case of special rights, its not
special rights, we have never intended it to be a special right for anyone, we are just
trying to make sure that the civil rights that we were all guaranteed to have is done. Two
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words that were used tonight to focus on this situation one is fairness and the other is
justice. That’s what we are after is fairness and justice for the people who are
discriminated against because of their lifestyle. Mr. Kelly stated that he is not condoning
the lifestyle at all, it is just saying that discrimination exists in our community and people
are being discriminated against in various ways and we are just giving them some
recourse which they do not have presently. The referral of the brain drain in our City, we
have been talking about that topic for some time. We are loosing good intelligent people
from the community, not necessarily just GLBT types, because of the way that they are
treated in South Bend. Mr. Kelly stated that by passing this amendment to the ordinance
we can curb the brain drain. Sexually transmitted diseases were brought up, it’s a terrible
thing, but sexually transmitted diseases affect heterosexual as well as homosexuals. He
stated that to him, he doesn’t believe that homosexuality is a matter of choice, he stated
that there have been arguments about that all evening long, but anyone who would
choose the homosexual lifestyle in our homophobic society has got to be out in left field
somewhere, he just does not believe that it is a matter of choice. Mr. Kelly stated that is
his personal view, he is not a clinical psychologist, he cannot speak on a professional
basis, but it just doesn’t seem right to him that anyone would choose that lifestyle given
the kind of problems that exist in the Community.
Councilmember Pfeifer stated that she would leave it up to Councilmembers, if they
would like to ask questions of City Attorney Chuck Leone, or Human Rights
Commission Executive Director Lonnie Douglas about any of the issues that were raised.
Councilmember Pfeifer stated that what she wanted to say in summary, is that, our form
of government in the United States, we do have a separation of church and state. That is
the way that our government is, we protect the minority, from the Tierney of the
Majority. That is the way that our government is. This ordinance has nothing at all to do
with behavior being protected, it’s about protecting people, human beings that’s what it is
about. The behavior was mentioned over and over again, what people do sexually, this
ordinance has nothing to do with what people do sexually. This is about protecting
people. The very fact that young people are confused and undecided about their
orientation is even more reason that they need to be protected from discrimination while
they are sorting things out. A couple of weeks ago, a southern Indiana man who put
together the black holocaust museum in Milwaukee, died. He died at the age of 80
because sixty years ago when he was being lynched, in Southern Indiana, for a crime he
did not commit, somebody stepped forward and said he is innocent. Tonight, we have the
opportunity to step forward and say that these people being mistreated is inappropriate
and unacceptable in our community. In the areas of education, public accommodations,
housing and employment, that is what we are talking about. We have the chance to step
forward to protect people who cannot step forward and protect themselves. She
challenged each and everyone to think about human beings, about individuals, that you
care about. Remember the times that people stepped forward for you. Now it is your
chance to return the favor. She asked the Council to vote with them tonight.
Councilmember Puzzello stated that she believes strongly in equality and freedom. The
freedom of opportunity under the law for everyone. She also thinks that she owes respect
to everyone who does the best they can with the gifts given to them. That includes
helping to achieve equality for all people, and not accepting fear or making judgments
against those who are different from her. She thinks that we all have to fight against this
human tendency to make judgments. We have to fight that all of our lives, all of us!
Tonight, we are not talking about marriage, and we are not talking about trying to change
people’s religious convictions, a person who has the money to rent or buy a home, or has
the education or training to hold a job, should under freedom of opportunity be allowed to
do so. We cannot lovingly deny anyone this right. This is discrimination and certainly
has nothing to do with love. When speaking of discrimination against anyone, it is often
mentioned that when it comes to employment, we want to hire the best employee
possible. Well, she wants the best employees in her City and the best neighbors in her
neighborhood. Please give all law abiding citizens a equal playing field.
Councilmember Varner thanked everyone for their participation tonight. 850 e-mails,
numerous phone calls, volumes of information, most of which read and highlighted and
conducted on a high level a very professional level and a very respectful level, and
however this turns out tonight, he hopes that everyone walks away with the
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understanding that it was conducted in a way that democracy was supposed to be
conducted. Part of democracy assumes that there is going to be disagreement. A part of
democracy assumes that decisions will be made and people will live with those. He takes
exception at this point and time, to Councilmember Pfeifer oversimplification to what we
are doing here tonight. He had his suspicions that there have been more involved with
the legal aspect of this, than that was actually understandable by himself, who is not a
lawyer. He thinks that Professor Rice lends a great deal of credence after his explanation,
that there is more here than just adding rights or providing status for discrimination cases.
However well intended, its turned out to be something a little bit different. Emotion
which has been a great deal this evening, on both sides, is great for pleading a case a
rallying a cause, emotion is not a good way to make a decision. It’s not a good way to
consider a decision. The decision which is what we are being asked here to which is to
create, a protected status of the GLBT population. We have throughout the history of the
discrimination, through the Civil Rights Movement and Human Rights Movements,
created a process through the courts and through legislation which is created a systematic
means by determining if and when the status of a people or an organization or group of
people who request special status, its not quick, its probably not pretty, involves a lot of
meetings like this, but the process as he understands it, simply before the status is
recognized they must meet three or four criteria which have been established by courts
over time. The next step will be legislation be formulated on a Federal level and has been
done in the past, it goes from the Federal level which makes it uniform and if it is
uniform, he thinks that it is more fair than if 350 cities or counties write 350 different
ordinances. It is certainly more understandable. It will also be better researched, it will
be better documented, it will be better tested, for all of the information that he has
received, and tried to cover as much as possible, can walk away with a lot of questions of
the validity of it. The Council does not have the time, nor the staff or the effort. He
believes that if the Council does not have good information, a good decision cannot be
made. He believes that the Council has the responsibility to make a decision that is good
not an emotional decision. He stated that he took a lot of notes, that got him thinking,
that despite the fact that it won’t be quick or easy, if in fact that it is determined that gay
and lesbian status should be protected, it will proceed down the normal pathway, it will
happen, we will have it, and we will move on from there. Because it will be more
specific and thought through legislation.
Councilmember Kirsits thanked everyone for attending tonight’s meeting, he thanked Mr.
Mangan for the nice book. Councilmember Kirsits stated he did read most of what is in
the binder tonight. It was an overview of everything that the Council got. He wondered
about the subtle rainbow tab, if that meant anything? He reiterated a lot of information
has been received by the Council. He gave great consideration to Mr. Uebbing, and his
incredible writings and kind of got to know him through the meetings and really respect
what he has written. On the other hand, he appreciates everyone with their comments
being lovingly opposed, however, he thinks that every Councilmember here can state that
some of the e-mails and contacts that they received were way out there, almost to the
point of hatred. A voice mail was received today, on his recorder at home, that he had
investigated to see if it was a plant to get him to go to the other side of the issue. This
voice mail thoroughly disgusted his son, who he thought was old enough to listen to it.
As a member of this city, a lifelong resident, one who was educated both in the public
schools and the catholic schools and was fortunate enough to attend a public school that
had a great diverse population on to a catholic school that had no idea of what it was to
have minorities. He found himself very fortunate, as someone who has chosen schooling
for his children here, based on its diverse population representing African Americans,
Hispanics and even Asians. What he worries about with the City is that when you are a
resident of the corporate City limits of South Bend, you get the benefits of the City and as
well all know you get the challenges to. Often times it takes a special person and when
he breaks this down to a simpler issue of his neighborhood that he loves dearly, he looks
at neighbors and friends there that have celebrated in the triumphs and outright tragedies
in his neighborhood. That quite possible that wouldn’t be his neighbor because just
because they are gay or lesbian. Because they would be discriminated against in
employment and would not have the financial means or wouldn’t have been able to buy
that house. As someone who has lived all his life in this City, who has worked twenty
eight years on the Fire Department to protect its citizens and have represented its citizens
as a Councilmember for seven years, he finds that wrong. He certainly feels that a pubic
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policy is needed for those who have the hatred and violent nature in them towards this
emotional issue are not allow to do that. As far as the ordinance, as one who has worked
with citizens for community values to get the strip bars, and adult entertainment under
control and eliminated in this City, we built the legislative district some of that is
challenged in the Courts and hope that they will rule in our favor, we think it makes us a
better and stronger city. However, he thinks that this ordinance while it is strong to an
extent, also puts in it those amendments that legislative history that he has talked about
and the language in here that protects those institutions those catholic organizations,
those religious organizations, that they would not be extremely affected by this. He
thinks its time for this City to take a step forward, he doesn’t think that this is going to
have adverse effect to turn this into a gay San Francisco Parade, but he thinks that its
going to be a matter of fairness for all its citizens that choose to live and accept the
benefits and take up the challenges of living in the City of South Bend.
Councilmember Dieter thanked everyone for their time and effort that has been put in.
He appreciates both sides of the issue. Basically the time line sticks out, of the way this
started through neighborhood meetings and then the Human Rights Commission then
coming on a little bit afterwards. He stated that if this issue was a problem, that the
Human Rights Commission could not handle it at that time, that they would have
approached the Council before these meetings that Charlotte had. Another issue that
stuck out is that the people from the Human Rights Commission that spoke on behalf of
themselves and not the Commission, so that again points to something else. Also, he
agree with Dr. Varner and that the enforceability and the information that he received
from different people on that. He stated that Mr. Rice with his article, he was right on the
money on that , if we do get to this point, he also agreed with Councilmember Kirsits,
that the Council and everyone on the Council is opposed to discrimination of any kind.
However, the way that the ordinance the way it stands now, it doesn’t address and is very
vague on its definition. The choices that people make in their own lives is up to them.
But what is being put out here tonight, he is not in agreement with. So, that is how he
will be voting tonight.
Councilmember Kuspa stated that this is a very important decision that the Council has to
make. He has been off for a while, he stated that he had back surgery and while at home
recuperating he has received numerous phone calls and information regarding the
amendment to the Human Rights Ordinance, both pro and con on this issue. When you
get right down to the ordinance and the definition of gender identity and sexual
orientation, it is to vague. There are people saying that it is a religious issue, it’s a natural
law issue, it is something that has to be lived with, something that needs a plan. It’s like
everything else, if the Council tries to pin down a certain employer and tell them that they
have to do this or they have to do that, he thinks its also against their rights also. He
appreciates all the information he has received, the good, bad, pro, and con. The Council
has to decide and live with that decision. It is a very difficult issue.
Councilmember Rouse stated like his other colleagues, he would like thank everyone for
participating in this process. Contrary, to what Ellen Anderson is saying, that 504 adult
residence represent the feeling of the State of Indiana, we have had 850 e-mails and
letters and he can tell you from 850 it is definitely against this ordinance. The e-mail’s
and letters that this Council received was probably, 3-1 against the ordinance. He stated
maybe we are strange residents in South Bend, or Hoosiers, but from what information
that he had and he thinks that its more decisively from the 850 that it is 107 residents in
the City of South Bend, and that is about 3-1 against this ordinance. But that is not really
the issue with him, he took an oath of office that said that he would stand as a legislator
for the City of South Bend. The oath reads as follows: “ I Timothy A. Rouse, do
solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the
Constitution of the State of Indiana and I will faithfully and impartially discharged the
duties of the office of the Common Council Member at Large, according to the law and
the best of my ability. He stated that he did not say in any sense say that he was going to
be come a trailblazer and change the law and use this office to amend the constitution of
the United States or the State of Indiana. And strictly, from a legislative perspective, he
does not feel that there has been due diligence given to this ordinance. He stated that as a
matter of fact, if he looks at the record of when it went into Council into committee and
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he cannot find hardly one time that it met in dialogue with the Committee to come to the
ordinance that we are asked to sign as a Common Council of the City of South Bend. So
he stands boldly, saying it is wrong, he cannot support it, and it does not give it due
diligence.
Councilmember White thanked the co-sponsors of this bill for all of their work, their
passion and commitment to this issue. It has been an issue that has been discussed during
the last two years. She really appreciates the manner is which the co-sponsors have gone
about putting the issues on the table. Embracing the community at large but also
allowing the Council to have opportunity for input. Tonight is just an excellent example
of the process and democracy at its best, in regard to hearing those in favor as well as
those in opposition. She stated that she has heard a lot of comments in regard to Civil
Rights versus Special Rights. She has received a number of e-mails as well as telephone
messages and has kept a tally of those who have expressed their support versus those who
have been opposition. According to her tally the vote is running 2-1 in opposition to
amending the Human Rights Ordinance. There are a lot of issues that need to still be
addressed. There is a way that she believes this Council can continue to have the level of
discussions that she believes are needed to continue to wrestle and articulate as well as
talk about an issue that is very dear to everyone’s heart. She doesn’t believe that anyone
is saying that they support discrimination in any form or fashion. But as the Council
begins to look at amending the Human Rights Ordinance, there are still a number of
issues that she believes need to be addressed. Again, she reiterated thanks to everyone
for their commitment on this issue.
Councilmember Pfeifer made a comment to the audience. She stated that
Councilmember Rouse and herself often disagree over things. And she feels a need to
clarify that they are nine Councilmembers. We are elected, we are equals, there is no
boss here. Any Councilmember who wants to bring forth legislation and research it, and
do the work that they want to do, has the right to do that. They do not have to ask
permission of anyone to do it. But Councilmember Rouse wanted was a certain
procedural way and that’s not her procedural way. She did it her procedural way, the
way that she has been doing it for eleven years, the way she will continue to do it, until
she stops serving here, and that is her right as a three time elected legislature that she can
do it that way. She stated that she did it the legal way. She wanted people to understand
that the way she did this, is the way that she has co-sponsored and sponsored four other
pieces of legislation and that it is her right to do that.
Councilmember Rouse responded that they are nine separate Councilmembers, we do
disagree but we still respect each other. It is his understanding, but we go with
parliamentary procedure, but when a issue is submitted to a committee, it should be
received by the Committee. Each Councilmember can legislate his/her own ordinance in
its own legislation, but when it comes into a committee, then the committee should have
the privilege of reviewing the issues before it, and when that doesn’t happen, that is his
only point. He questioned nothing about the co-sponsors of this bill. It did go into
committee officially, and it came out of legislation out of that committee. We do
disagree on some points, but wanted to make it clear to the audience that he has the most
high esteem for Councilmember Pfeifer, however, they disagree. He stated that they
agree to disagree and a matter of fact that Councilmember Pfeifer and himself have
served in a ministry for persons who have died of HIV and they were both there
ministering to that family. He stated that he thinks that they will continue to do that, in
the future. But we do have this disagreement on how things should be handled, but that
does not diminish the esteem that they have for each other.
Councilmember Pfeifer made a motion for favorable recommendation to full Council
concerning this bill as substituted. Councilmember Kelly seconded the motion which
was defeated by a roll call vote of four ayes (Councilmembers, Pfeifer, Kelly, Puzzello,
Kirsits) five nays (Councilmembers, Dieter, Varner, Kuspa, White, Rouse)
Council Attorney Kathleen Cekanski-Farrand advised that a motion is needed to
recommend, so you are recommending either favorable or unfavorable.
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Councilmember Varner made a motion for unfavorable recommendation to full Council
concerning this bill as substituted. Councilmember Dieter seconded the motion which
was passed by a roll call vote of five ayes (Councilmembers, Dieter, Varner, Kuspa
White, Rouse) and four nays (Councilmembers Pfeifer, Kelly, Puzzello, Kirsits)
BILL NO. 38-06 PUBLIC HEARING ON A BILL OF THE
COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND, INDIANA, TO ADD ARTICLE 13,
SECTIONS 17-119 THROUGH 17-125 TO
CHAPTER 17 OF THE SOUTH BEND
MUNICIPAL CODE ADDRESSING POST
CONSTRUCTION STORMWATER ISSUES
Councilmember Al “Buddy” Kirsits, Chairperson, Utilities Committee, reported that this
committee held a Public Hearing on this bill this afternoon and sends it to the full Council
with a favorable recommendation.
Mr. Jason J. Durr, P.E., Assistant City Engineer, 1300 County-City Building, 227 W.
Jefferson Blvd., South Bend, Indiana, made the presentation for this bill.
Mr. Durr advised that this bill is for post-construction storm water erosion control. It
establishes permit procedures which include the review of erosion control plans,
inspection of erosion control measures and the maintenance of erosion control measures
after and during construction.
This being the time heretofore set for the Public Hearing on the above bill, proponents
and opponents were given an opportunity to be heard.
There being no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in
opposition to this bill, Councilmember Dieter made a motion for favorable
recommendation to full Council concerning this bill. Councilmember Puzzello seconded
the motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
RISE AND REPORT
Councilmember Dieter made a motion to rise and report to the full Council.
Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried by voice vote of nine (9)
ayes.
ATTEST: ATTEST:
_________________________ ______________________
John Voorde, City Clerk Karen L. White, Chairperson
Committee of the Whole
REGULAR MEETING RECONVENED
Be it remembered that the Common Council of the City of South Bend reconvened in the
Council Chambers on the fourth floor of the County-City Building at 11:50 p.m. Council
President Timothy A. Rouse presided with nine (9) members present.
BILLS, THIRD READING
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BILL NO. 29-06 A BILL OF THE COMMON COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA,
AMENDING VARIOUS SECTIONS OF
ARTICLE 9, OF CHAPTER 2 OF THE SOUTH
BEND MUNICIPAL CODE ADDRESSING THE
HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE BY THE
INCLUSIONS OF NEW PROVISIONS
ADDRESSING GENDER IDENTITY AND
SEXUAL ORIENTATION
This bill had third reading. Councilmember Pfeifer made a motion to consider the
substitute version of this bill. Councilmember White seconded the motion which carried
by a voice vote of nine ayes.
Councilmember Pfeifer made a motion to pass this bill as substituted. Councilmember
Kelly seconded the motion which carried. The motion was defeated by a roll call vote of
4 ayes (Pfeifer, Kelly, Puzzello, Kirsits) and 5 nays (Dieter, Varner, Kuspa, White,
Rouse).
Councilmember Varner made a motion to that this substitute bill be defeated.
Councilmember Dieter seconded the motion which carried by a roll call vote of five (5)
ayes (Dieter, Varner, Kuspa, White, Rouse) and 4 nays (Pfeifer, Kelly, Puzzello, Kirsits)
ORDINANCE NO. 9684-06 AN ORDINANCE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL
OF THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA, TO
ADD ARTICLE 13, SECTIONS 17-119
THROUGH 17-125 TO CHAPTER 17 OF THE
SOUTH BEND MUNICIPAL CODE
ADDRESSING POST CONSTRUCTION
STORMWATER ISSUES
This bill had third reading. Councilmember Varner made a motion to pass this bill.
Councilmember Dieter seconded the motion which carried. The bill passed by a roll call
vote of nine (9) ayes.
RESOLUTIONS
RESOLUTION NO. 3611-06 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE
ADOPTION OF A DECLARATORY
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING CERTAIN
AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND,
INDIANA, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 4747
WEST CLEVELAND ROAD TO BE AN
ECONOMIC REVITALIZATION AREA FOR
PURPOSES OF A FIVE (5) YEAR PERSONAL
PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR PEI-
GENESIS, INC.
WHEREAS, the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana, has adopted a
Declaratory Resolution designating certain areas within the City as Economic
Revitalization Areas for the purpose of tax abatement consideration; and
WHEREAS, a Declaratory Resolution designated the area commonly known as 4747
,
West Cleveland Road South Bend, Indiana, and which is more particularly described as
follows:
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Commencing from the East Quarter of said Section 20, said point being approximately
68.62 feet South of the South right-of-way of Indiana East/West Toll Road (300’ total
R/W) thence North 0104’10” West along the East line of the Northeast Quarter of Section
20, 704.03 feet to the point of beginning of this description; (note: The bearing for this
description was derived from the recorded documents from the Right-of-Way
undertaking); thence North 7734’00” West, along the North right-of-way of Cleveland
Road 1346.24 feet; thence North 0038’36” West, 629.12 feet to the South line of the Plat
of Clarence A. Gregory’s High Meadows Estates Subdivision; thence North 8937’14”
East along the South line of the Plat of Clarence A. Gregory’s High Meadows Estates
Subdivision and Hartman DeMaegt Subdivision, as recorded under Book 21, page H4
and Book 27, page H respectively; 1304.45 feet to the East line of the Northeast Quarter
of said Section 20; thence continuing along the South boundary of Hartmen DeMaegt
Subdivision on a bearing of North 8937’14” East, 80.5 feet to a point on a line West 80.5
feet of the West Half of the Northwest Quarter of said Section 21; thence South 0104’10”
East, 946.09 feet to a point on the North line of Cleveland Road; thence continuing along
the said North line of Cleveland Road on a bearing of North 7734’00” West, 82.79 feet to
the point of beginning.
and which has Key Number 25-1012-0199.37, as an Economic Revitalization Area; and
WHEREAS, notice of the adoption of a Declaratory Resolution and the public hearing
before the Council has been published pursuant to Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1-2.5; and
WHEREAS, the Council held a public hearing for the purposes of hearing all
remonstrances and objections from interested persons; and
WHEREAS, the Council has determined that the qualifications for an economic
revitalization area have been met.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Common Council of the City of South
Bend, Indiana, as follows:
SECTION I. The Common Council hereby confirms its Declaratory Resolution
designating the area described herein as an Economic Revitalization Area for the
purposes of tax abatement. Such designation is for Personal property tax abatement only
and is limited to two (2) calendar years from the date of adoption of the Declaratory
Resolution by the Common Council.
SECTION II. The Common Council hereby determines that the property owner is
qualified for and is granted Personal property tax deduction for a period of five (5) years,
and further determines that the petition complies with Chapter 2, Article 6, of the
Municipal Code of the City of South Bend and Indiana Code 6-1.1-12 et seq.
SECTION III. This Resolution shall be in full force and effect from and after its
adoption by the Common Council and approved by the Mayor.
s/Timothy A. Rouse
Member of the Common Council
Mr. Marcell Levin, Attorney at Law, May, Oberfell, Lorber, 300 N. Michigan Street,
South Bend, Indiana, made the presentation for the bill.
Mr. Levin advised that Tuliptree Associates, LLC is in the process of acquiring 20 acres
of land in South Bend to build a new manufacturing facility. The initial facility will be
approximately 142,400 square feet; however, the site will support a facility in excess of
350,000 square feet and the building is being designed to accommodate phased
expansion. The facility will be leased to PEI-Genesis. As the new facility will be twice
the size of PEI’s existing facility, new equipment will need to be purchased including:
conveyors, glue machines, insertion machines, rackers, loaders, ovens, test equipment,
automatic baggers, mold machines and tools, numerous other tools and equipment,
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automatic baggers, mold machines and tools, numerous other tools and equipment, as
well as logistical distribution equipment and information technology equipment. It is
estimated that the total project will generate (12) twelve new, permanent, full-time jobs
representing a new annual payroll of $340,000. The project will also maintain 140
existing, permanent, full-time jobs and (4) four existing, part-time, jobs representing an
annual payroll of $3,700,000.
A Public Hearing was held on the Resolution at this time.
There being no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in
opposition to this Resolution, Councilmember Dieter made a motion to adopt this
Resolution. Councilmember Puzzello seconded the motion which carried and the
Resolution was adopted by a roll call vote of nine (9) ayes.
RESOLUTION NO. 3612-06 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE
ADOPTION OF A DECLARATORY
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING CERTAIN
AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND,
INDIANA, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 4747
WEST CLEVELAND ROAD AS AN ECONOMIC
REVITALIZATION AREA FOR PURPOSES OF
A (8) EIGHT-YEAR REAL PROPERTY TAX
ABATEMENT FOR TULIPTREE ASSOCIATES,
LLC., PEI-GENESIS, INC.
WHEREAS, the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana, has
adopted a Declaratory Resolution designating certain areas within the City as Economic
Revitalization Areas for the purpose of tax abatement consideration; and
WHEREAS, a Declaratory Resolution designated the area commonly known as
4747 West Cleveland Road, South Bend, Indiana, and which is more particularly
described as follows:
Commencing from the East Quarter of said Section 20, said point being
approximately 68.62 feet South of the South right-of-way of Indiana
East/West Toll Road (300’ total R/W) thence North 0104’10” West along
the East line of the Northeast Quarter of Section 20, 704.03 feet to the
point of beginning of this description; (note: The bearing for this
description was derived from the recorded documents from the Right-of-
Way undertaking); thence North 7734’00” West, along the North right-
of-way of Cleveland Road 1346.24 feet; thence North 0038’36” West,
629.12 feet to the South line of the Plat of Clarence A. Gregory’s High
Meadows Estates Subdivision; thence North 8937’14” East along the
South line of the Plat of Clarence A. Gregory’s High Meadows Estates
Subdivision and Hartman DeMaegt Subdivision, as recorded under Book
21, page H4 and Book 27, page H respectively; 1304.45 feet to the East
line of the Northeast Quarter of said Section 20; thence continuing along
the South boundary of Hartmen DeMaegt Subdivision on a bearing of
North 8937’14” East, 80.5 feet to a point on a line West 80.5 feet of the
West Half of the Northwest Quarter of said Section 21; thence South
0104’10” East, 946.09 feet to a point on the North line of Cleveland
Road; thence continuing along the said North line of Cleveland Road on a
bearing of North 7734’00” West, 82.79 feet to the point of beginning.
and which has Key Number 25-1012-0199.37, as an Economic Revitalization Area; and
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WHEREAS, notice of the adoption of a Declaratory Resolution and the public
hearing before the Council has been published pursuant to Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1-2.5;
and
WHEREAS, the Council held a public hearing for the purposes of hearing all
remonstrance’s and objections from interested persons; and
WHEREAS, the Council has determined that the qualifications for an economic
revitalization area have been met.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Common Council of the City of
South Bend, Indiana, as follows:
SECTION I. The Common Council hereby confirms its Declaratory Resolution
designating the area described herein as an Economic Revitalization Area for the
purposes of tax abatement. Such designation is for Real property tax abatement only and
is limited to two (2) calendar years from the date of adoption of the Declaratory
Resolution by the Common Council.
SECTION II. The Common Council hereby determines that the property owner is
qualified for and is granted Real property tax deduction for a period of eight (8) years,
and further determines that the petition, the Memorandum of Agreement between the
Petitioner and the City of South Bend, and the Statement of Benefits comply with
Chapter 2, Article 6, of the Municipal Code of the City of South Bend and Indiana Code
6-1.1-12 et seq.
SECTION III. This Resolution shall be in full force and effect from and after its
adoption by the Common Council and approved by the Mayor.
s/Timothy A. Rouse
Member of the Common Council
Mr. Marcell Levin, Attorney at Law, May, Oberfell, Lorber, 300 N. Michigan Street,
South Bend, Indiana, made the presentation for the bill.
Mr. Levin advised that Tuliptree Associates, LLC/PEI-Genesis, Inc., core business is the
manufacture, assembly, and distribution of electronic components, primarily electronic
connectors. The company also designs and manufactures electronic systems, cable
assemblies, and specialized connectors and components. The addition will allow PEI-
Genesis to consolidate its North American manufacturing operations. The estimated cost
of the addition is $7,250,000. As a result of the expansion, the company will increase its
full-time workforce by (12) twelve people. It is estimated that the total project will
generate (12) twelve new, permanent, full-time jobs representing a new annual payroll of
$340,000. The project will also maintain 140 existing, permanent, full-time jobs and (4)
four existing, part-time, jobs representing an annual payroll of $3,700,000.
A Public Hearing was held on the Resolution at this time.
There being no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in
opposition to this Resolution, Councilmember Varner made a motion to adopt this
Resolution. Councilmember Kuspa seconded the motion which carried and the
Resolution was adopted by a roll call vote of nine (9) ayes.
Councilmember Pfeifer asked Mr. Levin if he know if his company would be interested
in partnering in a venture with the City?
Mr. Levin stated that he was not able to answer the question at this time. He would need
to consult with the company.
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RESOLUTION NO. 3613-06 A RESOLUTION CONFIRMING THE
ADOPTION OF A DECLARATORY
RESOLUTION DESIGNATING CERTAIN
AREAS WITHIN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND,
INDIANA, COMMONLY KNOWN AS 6140
BRIDGETON LANE AS RESIDENTIALLY
DISTRESSED AREAS FOR PURPOSES OF A
FIVE (5) YEAR RESIDENTIAL REAL
PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR AUSTIN J.
HICKEY
WHEREAS, the Common Council of the City of South Bend, Indiana, has adopted a
Declaratory Resolution designating certain areas within the City as Residentially
Distressed Areas for the purpose of tax abatement consideration; and
WHEREAS, a Declaratory Resolution designated the area commonly known as 6140
Bridgeton Lane, South Bend, Indiana, and which is more particularly described as
follows:
a parcel of land being Lot 27 as the same is shown and designated on the plat of
Kensington Farms East, P.U.D., Section 6, Part Two, the same being recorded as
instrument number 9857462 in the office of the recorder of St. Joseph County,
Indiana,
,
and this property has Tax Key Number 23-1050-3201.06be designated as a
Residentially Distressed Area under the provisions of Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1 et seq.,
and South Bend Municipal Code Sections 2-76 et seq., and;
WHEREAS, notice of the adoption of a Declaratory Resolution and the public hearing
before the Council has been published pursuant to Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1-2.5; and
WHEREAS, the Council held a public hearing for the purposes of hearing all
remonstrances and objections from interested persons; and
WHEREAS, the Council has determined that the qualifications for a residentially
distressed area have been met.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Common Council of the City of South
Bend, Indiana, as follows:
SECTION I. The Common Council hereby determines and finds that the petition for real
property tax abatement and the Statement of Benefits form meet the requirements of
Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1 et seq., for tax abatement.
SECTION II. The Common Council hereby determines and finds that the area meets one
of the following conditions as formally established in Ordinance no. 8845-97, which was
passed on December 8, 1997:
A. The area is comprised of parcels that are either unimproved or contain only
one (1) or two (2) family dwellings designed for up to four (4) families,
including accessory buildings for those dwellings; or
B. Any dwellings in the area are not permanently occupied and are:
i. the subject of an order issued under IC 36-7-9; or
ii. evidencing significant building deficiencies; or
C. Parcels of property in the area:
i. have been sold and not redeemed under IC 6-1.1-24 and IC 6-1.1-25;
or
ii. are owned by a unit of local government; or
D. A significant number of dwelling units within the area are not permanently
occupied or a significant number of parcels in the area are vacant land; or
E. A significant number of dwelling units within the area are:
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i. the subject of an order issued under IC 36-7-9; or
ii. evidencing significant building deficiencies; or
F. The area has experienced a net loss in the number of dwelling units, as
documented by census information, local building and demolition permits,
or certificates of occupancy, or the areas are owned by Indiana or the United
States; or
G. The area (plus any areas previously designated under this subsection) will
not exceed ten percent (10%) of the total area within the Council’s
jurisdiction.
SECTION III. The Common Council also hereby determines and finds the following:
A. That the description of the proposed redevelopment meets the applicable
standards for such development.
B. That the estimate of the value of the redevelopment is reasonable for
projects of this nature;
C. That the other benefits about which information was requested are benefits
that can be reasonably expected to result from the proposed described
redevelopment; and
D. That the totality of benefits is sufficient to justify the requested deduction,
all of which satisfy the requirements of Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1-3.
E. The deduction will not be allowed unless the dwelling is rehabilitated to
meet local code standards for habitability.
F. The deduction will not be allowed unless the dwelling rehabilitation is
completed within five (5) calendar years from the date of the adoption of
this Resolution by the Common Council.
SECTION IV. The Common Council hereby confirms its Declaratory Resolution
designating the area described herein as a Residentially Distressed Area for the purposes
of tax abatement. Such designation is for Real property tax abatement only and is limited
to five (5) calendar years from the date of adoption of the Declaratory Resolution by the
Common Council.
SECTION V. The Common Council hereby determines that the property owner is
qualified for and is granted Real property tax deduction for a period of five (5) years, and
further determines that the petition complies with Chapter 2, Article 6, of the Municipal
Code of the City of South Bend and Indiana Code 6-1.1-12.1 et seq.
SECTION VI. This Resolution shall be in full force and effect from and after its
adoption by the Common Council and approval by the Mayor.
s/Timothy A. Rouse
Member of the Common Council
Mr. Bernard J. Feeney, Registered Land Surveyor, Land, Feeney & Associates, Inc., 715
South Michigan Street, South Bend, Indiana, made the presentation on this bill on behalf
of the petitioner Mr. Austin J. Hickey
Mr. Feeney advised that the petitioner intends to construct a single-family, three to four-
bedroom home on a vacant lot located at 6140 Bridgeton. The estimated cost of the
home will be $350,000.
A Public Hearing was held on the Resolution at this time.
There being no one present wishing to speak to the Council either in favor of or in
opposition to this Resolution, Councilmember Kelly made a motion to adopt this
Resolution. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried and the
Resolution was adopted by a roll call vote of nine (9) ayes.
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BILLS, FIRST READING
BILL NO. 39-06 FIRST READING ON A BILL AMENDING THE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED AT 1921 GREENOCK, 1927
GREENOCK, 1931 GREENOCK, 1935
GREENOCK, COUNCILMANIC DISTRICT (5)
IN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to refer this bill to
the Area Plan Commission. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried
by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
BILL NO. 40-06 FIRST READING ON A BILL AMENDING THE
ZONING ORDINANCE FOR PROPERTY
LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF 1424
SLATER DRIVE, COUNCILMANIC DISTRICT 6
IN THE CITY OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to refer this bill to
the Area Plan Commission. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried
by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
BILL NO. 41-06 FIRST READING ON A BILL OF THE
COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND, INDIANA, APPROPRIATING THE SUM
OF $514,000 FROM EDIT FUND 408 AND
$40,730 FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
FUND 288 FOR THE FIRE STATION NO. 2
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to consider the
substitute version of this bill. Councilmember White seconded the motion which carried
by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes. Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to refer this
bill to the Health and Public Safety Committee and set it for Public Hearing and Third
Reading on July 24, 2006. Councilmember Varner seconded the motion which carried.
BILL NO. 42-06 FIRST READING ON A BILL OF THE
COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SOUTH
BEND, INDIANA FUNDING $20,300.00 FROM
CDBG PROGRAM INCOME TO VARIOUS
ACCOUNTS WITHIN FUND 212 “COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT” IN THE DEPARTMENT OF
COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT
This bill had first reading. Councilmember Varner made a motion to refer this bill to the
Community and Economic Development Committee and set it for Public Hearing and
Third Reading on July 24, 2006. Councilmember Kuspa seconded the motion which
carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business to come before the Council at this time.
NEW BUSINESS
Councilmember Puzzello made a motion to receive the Community and Economic
Development Committee’s Review of Tax Abatement Procedures Report by November
1, 2006 instead of the October 1, 2006 date. Councilmember Varner seconded the
motion which carried by a voice vote of nine (9) ayes.
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Councilmember Charlotte D. Pfeifer, Chairperson, Personnel & Finance Committee
announced that the Council will be holding a Budget 101 Session on Saturday, July 15,
2006 from 10:00 a.m. until 12:00 (noon) for anyone interested in learning general
information about the city’s budget, including revenue sources and projections, and an
overview of how tax dollars are allocated. She encourage everyone to attend.
PRIVILEGE OF THE FLOOR
Mr. Steve Wessco, Mishawaka, Indiana, thanked the Council for everything they did this
evening.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Council, President Rouse adjourned
the meeting at 12:10 a.m., Tuesday, July 11, 2006.
ATTEST: ATTEST:
__________________________ ___________________________
John Voorde, City Clerk Timothy A. Rouse, President
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