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SOUTH BEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
April 9, 2010
10:00 a.m. 227 West Jefferson Boulevard
Presiding: Marcia I. Jones, President South Bend, Indiana
1. ROLL CALL
Members Present: Ms. Marcia Jones, President
Ms. Nancy King, Secretary
Mr. Greg Downes
Mr. Donald Alford
Members Absent: Dr. David Varner, Vice President
Ms. Stephanie Spivey
Legal Counsel: Mr. Charles S. Leone, Esq.
Mr. Lawrence Meteiver, Esq.
Redevelopment Staff: Mr. Robert Mathia, Economic Development Specialist
Mrs. Cheryl Phipps, Recording Secretary
Mr. Bill Schalliol, Economic Development Specialist
Mr. David Relos, Economic Development Specialist
Ms. Debrah Jennings, Property Manager
Others Present: Mr. Jeff Gibney, Executive Director
Mr. Tom Price, Mayor’s Office
Mr. Patrick Strickler Blue Waters Group
Ms. Heather Short-Davis, Blue Waters Group
Ms. Christine Tembo, Blue Waters Group
Ms. Elizabeth Leonard, Community Development
Mr. John March, Community Development
Ms. Rita Kopala
Mr. Jeff Parrott, South Bend Tribune
Mr. Mark Peterson, WSBT
Ms. Ingrid Mathias
Mr. Arthur Gray
Ms. Sarah Brady
Mr. Terry Wruble
Ms. Debra Wruble
Mr. Warren Ward
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South Bend Redevelopment Commission
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2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Approval of Minutes of the Regular Meeting of
Friday, March 19, 2010.
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Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by Ms.
OMMISSION APPROVED THE INUTES OF THE
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King and unanimously carried, the Commission
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approved the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of
Friday, March 19, 2010.
3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS
Redevelopment Commission Claims submitted April 9, 2010 for approval.
324 AIRPORT AEDA
Indiana Michigan Power 7.00 501 Wenger St. SPRK SYS/Johnson Blvd
Witt Appraisal Services, Inc. 1,000.00 RC Marketing Srvc for Ignition Pk
Michaels Appraisal Service 1,000.00
Transpo Site Environmental Inspection
Richard Bros., Inc 95,304.00
Demolition of Former WM Property
Wightman Petrie 34,578.00
William & Lafayette Traffic Analysis
Holladay Corp WNIT Façade
338,680.00
420 FUND TIF DISTRICT-SBCDA GENERAL
Indiana Michigan Power 172.27 237 N Michigan
Rose Pest Solution LaSalle Hotel
93.00
Lakota Group Inc 2,478.55 Planning & Strategy Development for Ignition Pk
Populous Master Planning for Coveleski Neighborhood
5,500.00
DHA Survey
5,682.50
True Value LaSalle Hotel Management Fee
30.83
CB Richard Ellis LaSalle Hotel Management Fee
1,242.44
DTSB Downtown Beautification Program Streetscape
34,375.00
Schindler LaSalle Building Elevator
150.00
Jerome E. Michaels, MAI Appraisal Vacant Land - East Bk
1,275.00
Ralph D. Lauver Appraisal 122 S Nile Ave.
950.00
Phifer Environmental Services, LLC Engineering Services
3,000.00
Populous Professional Services Coveleski Stadium
51,849.02
Wightman Petrie Monroe & Main Site Design
720.00
454 AIRPORT URBAN ENTERPRISE ZONE
Project Impact 145,833.00 Project Impact
$ 819,224.61
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3. APPROVAL OF CLAIMS (CONT.)
Mr. Downes pointed out a claim that appeared to be on
the list two times under different development areas. It
was clarified that that was a duplicate and belonged
under only the Airport Economic Development Area.
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Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by Ms. King
OMMISSION APPROVED AS CORRECTED THE
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and unanimously carried, the Commission approved as
ORDERED THE CHECKS TO BE RELEASED
corrected the Claims submitted April 9, 2010, and
ordered checks to be released.
4. COMMUNICATIONS
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There were no Communications.
HERE WERE NO OMMUNICATIONS
5. OLD BUSINESS
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There was no Old Business.
HERE WAS NO LD USINESS
6. NEW BUSINESS
A. Public Hearing
(1) Public Hearing on Resolution No. 2663, an
Additional Appropriation Resolution of
the City of South Bend Redevelopment
Commission (South Bend Central
Development Area)
Ms. Jones noted that due to errors in
publication of the Notice of Hearing for both
Resolution No. 2663 and Resolution
No. 2664 the public hearings on each will be
opened to hear anyone who wishes to speak,
then continued until April 23 so that proper
notice can be made.
Mr. Mathia noted that Public Hearing file is
complete, containing a copy of Resolution
No. 2661 determining to make the
appropriation and setting the public hearing
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on Resolution No. 2663; a copy of the Notice
of Hearing; a copy of Resolution No. 2663,
the subject of the public hearing; an affidavit
from Carol Smith, Advertising Director of
the South Bend Tribune, that the Notice of
Hearing was published in that newspaper on
March 26, 2010; an affidavit from Richard
Andrysiak, Classified Manager of the Tri-
County News, that the Notice of Hearing was
published in that newspaper on March 26,
2010.
Ms. Leonard noted that Resolution No. 2663
will appropriate an additional $399,000 to
make a payment on the Century Center
bonds. The city will receive funds from the
Hotel-Motel Tax Board to make that
payment. The city is just a pass-through, but
does need to appropriate the funds if they go
through its books.
PHRN.2663
Ms. Jones opened the public hearing on
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Resolution No. 2663 for anyone who wished
to speak. There was no one who wished to
speak at this time. The public hearing was
continued until 10:00 a.m., April 23, 2010.
(2) Approval of Resolution No. 2663
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Approval of Resolution No. 2663 is
PPROVAL OF ESOLUTION O IS
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continued until 10:00 a.m., April 23, 2010.
(3) Public Hearing on Resolution No. 2664, a
resolution of the South Bend
Redevelopment Commission
appropriating monies from the
Redevelopment General Fund (Fund 433)
for the purpose of paying for certain
expenses incurred by the Redevelopment
Commission.
Mr. Mathia noted that Public Hearing file is
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complete, containing a copy of Resolution
No. 2662 determining to make the
appropriation and setting the public hearing
on Resolution No. 2664; a copy of the Notice
of Hearing; a copy of Resolution No. 2664,
the subject of the public hearing; an affidavit
from Carol Smith, Advertising Director of
the South Bend Tribune, that the Notice of
Hearing was published in that newspaper on
March 26, 2010; an affidavit from Richard
Andrysiak, Classified Manager of the Tri-
County News, that the Notice of Hearing was
published in that newspaper on March 26,
2010.
Ms. Leonard noted that Resolution No. 2664
would reappropriate $15,000 from the
Redevelopment General Fund to pay for
certain expenses incurred by the
Redevelopment Commission, primarily legal
expenses that may come up throughout the
year.
PHRN.2664
Ms. Jones opened the public hearing on
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Resolution No. 2664 for anyone who wished
to speak. There was no one who wished to
speak at this time. The public hearing was
continued until 10:00 a.m., April 23, 2010.
(4) Approval of Resolution No. 2664
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Approval of Resolution No. 2664 is
PPROVAL OF ESOLUTION O IS
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continued until 10:00 a.m., April 23, 2010.
(5) Public Hearing on Resolution No. 2666
confirming a resolution amending the
development plan for the South Bend
Central Development Area and adding one
or more parcels to the List of Parcels to be
Acquired.
Mr. Mathia noted that the public hearing file
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is complete, containing a copy of declaratory
Resolution No. 2655 amending the
development plan for the South Bend Central
Development Area; a copy of the Area Plan
Commission’s Resolution No. 208-10
approving the declaratory resolution; a copy
of the South Bend Common Council’s
Resolution No. 4020-10 approving the Area
Plan Commission’s Resolution No. 208-10; a
copy of the Notice of Hearing; a copy of
Resolution No. 2666; and affidavits from the
advertising directors of the South Bend
Tribune and the Tri-County News confirming
that the Notice of Hearing was published in
those newspapers on March 26, 2010; a
statement from Bill Schalliol that on
March 31, 2010 affected property owners and
neighborhood associations were sent the
Notice of Hearing. The mail was checked
prior to this meeting and as of 10:00 a.m.,
there were no written remonstrances to
Resolution No. 2666.
Mr. Schalliol noted that Resolution No. 2666
would add nine parcels to the South Bend
Central Development Area List of Properties
to be Acquired. The properties are all part of
122 S. Niles Ave., the former Troegger Sheet
Metal property.
PHRN.2666
Ms. Jones opened the public hearing for
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whoever wished to speak regarding
Resolution No. 2666. There was no one who
wished to speak. Ms. Jones closed the public
hearing for whatever action the Commission
wished to take.
(6) Approval of Resolution No. 2666
Upon a motion by Ms. King, seconded by CRN.2666
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CONFIRMING A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE
Mr. Downes and unanimously carried, the
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Commission approved Resolution No. 2666
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ENTRAL EVELOPMENT REA AND ADDING
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confirming a resolution amending the
ONE OR MORE PARCELS TO THE IST OF ARCELS
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TO BE CQUIRED
development plan for the South Bend Central
Development Area and adding one or more
parcels to the List of Parcels to be Acquired.
(7) Public Hearing on Resolution No. 2667
confirming a resolution amending the
Development Plan for the South Side
Development Area and adding one or
more parcels to the List of Parcels to be
Acquired.
Mr. Mathia noted that the public hearing file
is complete, containing a copy of Resolution
No. 2658 amending the Development Plan of
the South Side Development Area; a copy of
the Area Plan Commission’s Resolution No.
209-10 approving the declaratory resolution;
a copy of the South Bend Common Council’s
Resolution No. 4021-10 approving the Area
Plan Commission’s Resolution No. 209-10; a
copy of the Notice of Hearing; a copy of
Resolution No. 2667; and affidavits from the
advertising directors of the South Bend
Tribune and the Tri-County News confirming
that the Notice of Hearing was published in
those newspapers on March 26, 2010; a
statement from Bill Schalliol that on
March 31, 2010 affected property owners and
neighborhood associations were sent the
Notice of Hearing. The mail was checked
prior to this meeting and as of 10:00 a.m.,
there were four written remonstrances to
Resolution No. 2667.
Mr. Schalliol noted that Resolution 2667
would add six (6) properties to the
acquisition list for the South Side
Development Area. These properties are part
of the site area proposed for the Erskine
Plaza drainage pond project. The process to
add these properties to the Acquisition List
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began with a declaratory resolution by the
Redevelopment Commission, which was
approved by the Area Plan Commission, then
the Common Council and has returned to the
Commission for a public hearing and action.
The parcels in question are adjacent to the
Erskine Plaza shopping area. Two of the
properties are presently owned by the city,
one is privately owned and is used as a
shortcut connector to the western end of the
western most pond from the shopping center
on out. Three residential properties are
proposed to be added to the acquisition list.
The pond project is directly related to the
present and future planning objectives for the
Southside Development Area. The pond
project will improve the drainage situation,
not only in the immediate Miami and Ireland
intersection, but also downstream. The
development of the new pond system will
create a new taxable development site on the
Southside for future commercial
development. The pond project itself was
part of the discussion in the confirming
resolution documents that was approved by
this body, Area Plan and the Commission
when the Southside Development Area was
established. Drainage in this area has long
been a concern.
PHRN.2667
Ms. Jones opened the public hearing for
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anyone who wished to be heard concerning
Resolution No. 2667.
Mr. Warren Ward
, 751 W. Ewing Ave.:
When Christian Center Church was built, I
worked for the company that installed
cisterns to take care of all the water in the
parking lot area of Christian Center. Why
can’t they, when it’s not raining, pump water
out of existing ponds into pipes in the regular
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streets that would handle the water when it is
raining? That’s my first question. Why don’t
they put cisterns like they did at Christian
Center in the parking lot. The second
question is, the water is already there.
Wouldn’t it be a lot cheaper to install pumps
when it is not raining to empty those ponds
into the current drainage system of the streets
like Miami? Where is this water coming from
that is going into those ponds?
Mr. Schalliol: The water comes from the
bypass, from Erskine Plaza and Erskine
Village, Broadmoor Plaza, the road networks
(Miami and Ireland) and from the Scottsdale
neighborhood. Some actually comes from
south of the bypass into this area. The water
collects in the first pond and some of it is
suppose to percolate into the ground there
before it overflows into the second pond.
There is overflow into the combined storm
sewer network, something the city is actively
working citywide to correct. The city
installed a sensor that shuts the drain off
when it gets too wet. The problem is, both of
the ponds need to be rehabbed and
reconfigured. That will be part of the central
pond initiative. We have worked with the
church to disconnect a lot of its water from
its water network. Part of the flooding that
happens on the golf course is a direct result
of the church and some of the overflow into
this area. We are trying to reconfigure this
whole network to better accommodate all the
water for the whole area.
Another condition that makes these ponds
necessary is the planned improvements to the
bypass, as part of the U.S. 31 project. There
will be an expansion of the roadway as far
back as Miami, so we will need to be able to
account for additional water coming off the
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bypass into this network.
Mr. Ward
: My main question is, when it is
not raining, so all the drain pipes are empty,
why can’t rather than the overflow shutoff,
which is a good thing, why don’t they pump
the ponds out. Do you really need the two
ponds?
Mr. Schalliol
: We actually do need two
ponds, we actually need a bigger second
pond. Because of the amount of water that is
generated in this network we need more
retention than we have now. We have looked
at pumps and pumping the water down to the
existing retention area back behind the
shopping center of Ironwood and Ireland, but
you would be pumping water up hill to pump
it downhill to pump it into a pond, so that
doesn’t work. The problem is we don’t have
a lot of positive discharges other than the
combined storm sewer network which we are
not allowed to be pumping into.
Mr. Ward
: When they put the Ireland Road
railroad overpass in,they had monstrous
pumps pumping water out. So they don’t
have a pump that’s sufficiently …
Mr. Schalliol
: They do, but the cost to install
a pump to pump water uphill, and then
maintenance costs, there are all sorts of
issues.
Mr. Ward
: Do you have a dollar amount?
Mr. Schalliol
: Not with me today, but it is a
very expensive process.
Mr. Ward
: Is it a quarter of a million
dollars?
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Mr. Schalliol
: Yes, because it would require
lead pipe, putting in pumps, long term
maintenance, so yes.
Mr. Ward
: How much would you spend on
buying the properties they’re suggesting to
buy?
Mr. Schalliol
: We don’t have a dollar
amount total yet, but maybe in the
neighborhood of $450,000 to $500,000, by
the time you do the ponds and all. But you
have different long term expenses with ponds
than you do with pumps and pipes.
Mr. Ward
: So are they considering buying
up all the properties on Fellows Street and
taking the overflow off the bypass to Ireland
Road?
Mr. Schalliol
: That’s a whole separate
project. I don’t know what will happen with
the full extent of Fellows Street project will
be.
Ms. Sarah Brady
: I am representing myself
and my husband, Terry Brady, who has
work responsibilities, and my son, 713
Hawbaker Street. We purchased our home
just over four years ago and have lived there
from the day we received the keys. When we
were looking for a home there were several
factors that went into our decision to
purchase this particular home on Hawbaker.
First and most important, it was easily within
our budget with both of us working, but more
importantly, we knew that it would still be
within our budget when the time would come
for me to leave work and start a family and
only have one income. Secondly, the size of
the house and yard were a huge plus to us.
We knew we would have room to grow both
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inside the house with a family and outside
the house with a big garden. The third
important reason we chose our home, and
that’s the reason I am here to talk about, is
the neighborhood and location. When we
first looked at the house we thought, how
cool is this! Within walking distance to
Menard’s and Martin’s, yet tucked away on a
nice little street with other houses. We
quickly got to know our neighbors, most of
whom are here today, and even though there
aren’t many of them, we enjoy the sense of
community that we do have with them. There
were many times that I would walk down to
visit the Pickfords, who lived at the house on
the corner, what will be acquired in the time
line. Before the Wrubles moved in to where
they live, which is right next to where the
Pickfords live, the Blackfords lived there,
they were a young family like us and it was
really fun visiting each others houses and
chatting about kids and housework, and
things that neighbors talk about. In fact, even
though the Blackfords moved to Indy, I still
keep in contact with them. When the
Wrubles moved in, we quickly got to know
them and there are many occasions, in fact,
just one the other night, when it was still
warm out. We were out walking and would
stop and chat, just like neighbors do. Our
son, Benjamin, gets a kick out of seeing
Sockey’s mommy and daddy. They have a
dog named Sockey, and my son just loves
him. When we went on vacation a few
months ago, they came to our home, and got
our mail and papers for us without us even
asking them to do that. It’s a neighbor thing
to do. And the Keszeis, the next property that
is going to be acquired, he always got a kick
walking around our back yard looking for
golf balls. We always got a lot of them
because of the course. Apparently not a lot of
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people know how to golf in South Bend
because we get a ton of golf balls. Arthur
Gray lives right across from us, and we have
gotten to know him as well. We always find
ourselves just in each other’s yards, just as
neighbors do. My point with all of these little
examples about our neighborhood is this is
what makes a neighborhood. My husband
and I have some concerns about the plans
involving our neighborhood. First, let me be
clear about one thing, I am not here to raise a
big stink. I am not here to be difficult or
make a bunch of demands. I am just here to
give you a perspective about this project you
may not have thought about. All I ask is, that
as I briefly go over my concerns, you listen
with an open mind and heart and try to put
yourselves in the shoes of my husband and
myself and our son. The first concern we
have is the loss of community within our
neighborhood that is going to take place.
Albeit a small community, it is still a
community. Mr. Arthur Gray and ourselves
will be the only people left living on
Hawbaker Street. To us, that greatly reduces
one of the top reasons we bought the house in
the first place. If these ponds had already
been in place when we looked at the house
we never, ever would have purchased the
property. Our fear is having to try to sell our
house in the future. I would find it hard to
believe someone would purchase a residence
that is surrounded by commercial things,
where a little neighborhood once stood. We
have a fear selling commercially would not
work either because it is going to be too
small of a parcel for businesses to then want.
As you can see it would only be only us and
possibly the residence next to us, which is the
church.
The second concern is the value of our
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property changing. Although none knows for
certain how this would play out we feel that
our value would decrease based on having
these ponds directly across from us. We are
also dealing with our bank about flood
insurance issues. Depending on how this
plays out and how it gets zoned our bank has
let us know that flood insurance may be
required for us. We did check with our
insurance agent and this would cost us to the
point that we would no longer be able to
afford our home. We are also concerned
about what this could do to our tax rate. This
is something I’ve not yet looked into,
however, it is just a concern of ours that
taxes could possibly go up with the new
development of the area. The third concern
that we have is crime and loitering. We
already have a small problem with crime in
the area. The bank has a situation that it gets
robbed frequently, and there have been some
other robberies in the area. We feel that
taking away these houses is just going to
create more places for criminals to seek
cover in and hide out. We also have a
problem with the homeless in the area. They
often sleep in the cemetery, and the cemetery
is located directly behind us. This is going to
draw more of that type of thing because we
are going to have another area that is not
residential, but just kind of…area.
The fourth concern that we have is the
upkeep of the new pond area. The amount of
trash that comes down Hawbaker from the
parking lot is just unbelievable, a large
amount. We are constantly picking up
wrappers, plastic bags, bank receipts,
McDonald’s cups, etc. As of now, we have
everyone working together to try to keep our
street clean. A big fear is once these houses
are gone there is going to be no one to pick
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up all the trash and it is going to look like a
dump rather quickly. Would you want to live
next to some like what you see? Did you see
my pictures? That is a lot of trash that
collects and we have that same type of thing
on Hawbaker because there are residences
there right now we are all in our yards
picking the stuff up. I know there is a lot of
talk about different design options for
aesthetic purposes with the pond, but once
again we feel like it is a lose-lose for us. If
there is a big fence or trees lining the
perimeter, trash is going to collect similar to
the fence that I have provided the pictures of.
On the other hand, if it is made more like a
pond with no fence, every day I am going to
live in fear of my toddler who has no fear of
water, wandering over there and possibly
something terrible happening. As you can see
from the pictures, our property is not far off
from where this is going in. I did take a
couple of pictures from our front porch so
you can see it is really close proximity to us.
We would have never chosen to live next to
or in close proximity to water. We also know
the City fully intends to keep up the
appearance of the pond, but let’s face it,
times are tight and if things down the road
have to get cut, maintenance on a pond is
going to be cut over police or fire or schools.
And then, what would we be left to look at or
deal with? I know Bill had stated what those
ponds were for, the maintenance has been let
go, and that’s why part of the reason why
they are in the situation that they’re in now,
so yeah, maybe one or two years they’re
going to be up kept, but I am thinking three
or four years down the road, are they going
to then look like what the ponds look like
now.
The fifth and final concern I have regarding
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these ponds is the stagnant water. I did take a
picture, you can see the slime on top of it. I
think this is prime breeding ground for
mosquitoes. My husband and I are an athletic
family and we frequently take walks in the
summer. We had to stop walking next to the
fencing of the current ponds because the
mosquitoes are so bad over there in the
summer. You can’t even walk by it. They are
horrible. I have a slight paranoia of the West
Nile. Two years ago my father contracted it,
fortunately he survived but it was a long road
of recovery. I know this could happen
anywhere at any time, living directly across
from a pond is going to increase our chances,
if not just the West Nile, the annoyance of a
large influx of mosquitoes every where. This
would not be enjoyable to deal with while we
are trying to have a grill out on our patio or
just be in our yard playing.
In conclusion, I would like to provide a
possible solution for the dilemma the Brady
household is facing. I have spoken with Bill
Schalliol earlier this week and his suggestion
and recommendation was to ask you, the
City, to add our property to the acquisition
list to acquire our residence in addition to the
others you are seeking. Less than a year ago,
the City was interested in our property and
we were actually under contract to sell, and
then things fell through on the City’s end. It
was a big disappointment to us because we
really did not want to have to live next to
these ponds. While not looking to take
advantage of the City, we are not asking for
any more money, nor do we want to stop this
project. We would be willing to go under
contract for the same selling amount offered
to us last year. We understand, for South
Bend to continue to grow and reach its fullest
potential, changes have to happen. We are
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just asking you guys to set aside the pens and
paper of this project and look at the human
aspect. If you were in our shoes, how would
you feel and how would you want the City to
treat you? We have tried to be as
understanding and reasonable throughout this
entire process, we just ask that the City be as
understanding towards us as we have been
with you guys. I thank you for taking the
time to listen to our concerns and just ask
that you think about the Brady household
from a human perspective and not just the
pen and paper of it. Thank you.
Mr. Patrick Keszei
: My parents own the
house currently at 722 E. Hawbaker. I am
representing myself, my parents, my brother-
in-law and my sister. I would like to
summarize everything before I start. This
pond would cause a great deal of pollution
and danger to the area. The pond over there
is extremely nasty and dirty and the City has
demonstrated that they really are negligent in
caring for that area. There is a school next to
that area and this would be harmful to the
students. Would you ant your kids going to a
school that is located next to a sewage dump?
It will decrease the value of all of the
businesses and the surrounding area
residents. It will create a polluted
environment. It will cause my parents a great
deal of cost and anguish. We were not
notified until two and a half weeks ago that
this was a City project. We were earlier
notified by Chris Davey of Grubb and Ellis
that they wanted to purchase the property and
there was no representation that it would be
purchased by the City. Basically, I believe
this was poor planning by the City and they
should have the pond located elsewhere, in
another location that will be more suitable
rather than in a beautiful residential area. I
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think what we have to do is weigh the cost of
putting in this new pond verse the pumps. I
know the gentleman over here said that he
didn’t know what the pumps cost or didn’t
have any numbers. I think it is a good idea
that you get the numbers and calculate those
numbers so we can have an accurate
calculation. What I would like to do now is
read the letter from my sister first.
“I’m writing to protest Resolution No. 2667.
It came to me as a shock when I read the
letter received by my parents, Emery and
Marian Keszei, from the City on March 26,
2010. This was the first time that my parents,
through me, had learned that the City was
interested in buying my parent’s home and
adjoining lot. I really wanted to be present at
this meeting but having spring break vacation
plans with my family. Also, the City
planning committee scheduled the meeting
for April 9, which was only two weeks from
when my parents received the letter from the
City because we were previously
misrepresented by Chris Davey. I wonder
why we were given such short notice and
why was it scheduled during the school’s
spring break. I called the City Planning office
to request a continuance but was informed by
David that there was no such thing as a
continuance in these matters. I was told that
these meetings are set by the City Council
and cannot be changed, so I am very
disappointed that it was scheduled during
spring break, and only two weeks notice was
given to us before a meeting was set, which
will potentially take my parents’ home away
from them. It was very short notice. (My
parents did receive the letter some time ago
from Cressy and Everett, through me, Pat
Keszei, the realty agent that said they were
interested in buying the property, but it was
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never disclosed that they working on behalf
of the City. We just thought that Cressy and
Everett wanted the property for development
purposes and I personally told them that the
property was not for sale.) Since my parents
have no intention of moving, we ignored the
letter. We didn’t hear any more until March
26 when a letter from the City arrived.
Mr. Keszei
: My parents are 86 and 88, soon
to be 87 and 89. They built their home in
1958. Andrew Toth, a prominent architect,
designed and built my parents’ home. It was
a beautiful, fully brick, unique home. You
will not find another in South Bend. My
parents love their home and they love the
area. They have been over there for fifty
years. My Dad has a garden there and I’ve
maintained it. They want to remain there
until their passing dates. I feel that the City
has not planned well. They allowed Erskine
Plaza to be built in the area, large stores such
as Mernard’s and Martin’s grocery store are
part of the Erskine Plaza. They allowed them
to put in a huge parking lot, no wonder there
is no place for the water to go. The City’s
poor planning should not constitute the
destruction of my parents’ home in order to
put in a retention pond. The City should look
for another location for the retention pond,
one which will not ruin a residential area. It
would appear to me that it would be a good
idea to place it more near to the bypass rather
than a residential area. The City wants the
retention pond to be in a residential area.
There are homes with children in the area.
The River of Life Church and school are in
this area. The school playground is very
close to my parents’ property. This would be
a dangerous situation if a child were to
wander off. Even a fence would not prevent
an adventurous child from getting into the
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retention area. Retention areas are smelly and
insect infected. Just like the City has
demonstrated their negligence in having what
I call a sewage dump. It would ruin the
property values of the area residents. It seems
that the City doesn’t care about the small,
residential owners. In conclusion, I hope and
pray that the City will reconsider their plan
and find a more suitable location, one which
is not a residential area or at least consider
the idea of the pumps. The demolition of my
parents’ home and the installation of a
retention pond would negatively affect
everyone in the neighborhood. No one wants
to live to a retention area.
Mr. Keszei
: This is from my brother-in-law,
Tom Callahan. “On March 26, they were
given notice, which was only two and a half
weeks notice, which was not ample notice.
The Keszeis received no communication
from the City or any of its representatives
about the City’s intention prior to March 26,
2010. The Keszeis received a letter from a
private developer about obtaining their
property but that communiqué never
mentioned that the City of South Bend was
involved in any way. The communiqué led
the Keszeis to believe that the property was
very valuable. The private developer
contacted the Keszeis’ son (me Patrick)
about the property and informed him, as
opposed to Emery and Marian Keszei, who
are the owners, about the City of South
Bend’s plan. The private developer never
indicated to Patrick that he might be acting
on behalf of the City of South Bend. At this
point, Emery and Marian Keszei had no
reason to believe that anyone ever attempted
to contact them about the City of South
Bend’s plan, prior to receiving this letter
dated March 26, 2010. Consequently, at this
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point, since there has been no effective
communication, the Keszeis are left to
attempt to determine what is transpiring and
ask questions. Nearby property owners, both
residential and businesses, have not been
notified that the private property that they
currently own might soon be adjacent to a
retention pond. (I personally went to Mutual
Bank and the Dental office, Fitness USA,
they have no communication from the City of
South Bend. I feel that is very negligent and
unjustified. Why not notify everybody that’s
going to be in the area? Why are these
people, who clearly have an interest being
excluded at this point? That fact that every
Emery and Marian Keszei have lived there
since 1958, 52 years, should not be dismissed
as irrelevant. They acquired two lots, built on
this property and landscaped it, and enhanced
the image of South Bend long before others
did the same. They have paid their property
taxes much longer than others who have just
recently developed their properties. It
appears to them that since they don’t pay
much property taxes as private developers in
the area, their property has been chosen to be
converted. Compared to the Keszeis’ 52
years in the area, Erskine Village and Erskine
Plaza, these other people are new comers.
When the village and plaza were built the
developers failed to acquire the amount of
property necessary to support the use they
chose for their property they developed. They
apparently did not obtain or develop enough
property for water to run off. Since they have
not received any communication other than
the afore-mentioned notice, the Keszeis
assumed that public funds would be used to
obtain their property instead of the
developer’s funds, thereby increasing
citizen’s taxes, as well as the developer’s
profit. In addition, the Keszeis daughter,
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Judy, was informed that the City would
employ two appraisers to determine the value
of their property. While the City may view
this as a service to its residents, the later may
view it as self serving. The Keszeis are
concerned that if they can’t change the City’s
plan they will be forced to accept whatever
the City’s hired appraisers say the property is
worth, where it should be valued at its best
and available use such as for selling to a
commercial organization. They are
concerned that the City has a vested interest
in keeping the amount low. It appears that the
City will incur the cost of conversion by
itself. It doesn’t appear that the Village plaza
owners and development properties, likely
the biggest cause of the water runoff, will
likely benefit from the conversion the most.
We have to make monetary contribution to
the conversion effort, sacrificing private
property for community need doesn’t need to
be done lightly. The causes necessitate the
need for change should be identified.
Government entities and property owners
responsible for those should be held
accountable. The Keszeis and any private
property owners should be left to simply
conclude that their private property is subject
to be converted for the benefit of other
private property owners. Thank you for
listening to my concerns. But it will just
greatly harm the school, the value. I think
because of the poor planning that the city
should go ahead and have the pond located
elsewhere, like I said, next to the bypass
where it’s more of a commercial area.
Because the city has done a terrible job of
maintaining that area. It’s just polluted,
insect infested, there’s litter everywhere. It’s
just a sewage dump.
Ms. Jones asked Mr. Mathia if all the
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remonstrance that were written addressed
publicaly and he said they were.
Mr. Chris Davey
: Grubb and Ellis, Cressy &
Everett. I’d like to give some perspective
here. We own the shopping center where
Martin’s is, built it in the mid ‘80s. We don’t
own the Menard’s parcel, that is owned by a
group called Kimco, but it looks like it is all
one center. A number of years ago, Bill
(Schalliol) contacted us because they had
ideas, you probably saw the pictures in the
paper, maybe you remember and maybe you
don’t, but they were talking about doing
something like this and taking a lot of water
across the street to the golf course. That is
when we first got involved in talking to the
City because we own that property and
obviously that has an impact on us, as well.
So, that’s how we got involved in this project
a number of years ago. At the time it just
didn’t work out.
Maybe it was two years ago or a year and a
half ago, Bill got back in touch with me and
asked me if we would have some interest in
this. We really like the idea of what they
were doing here because it created some
more opportunities from our perspective to
develop that area where the existing ponds
are. I don’t know how long those ponds have
been there but they were there before we
built the shopping center. So they have been
there for some time. I think the City is on the
right path in doing what they are doing. For
Mrs. Brady and her family, I think what they
will do is probably lessen the possibility of a
need for flood insurance verses the other way
it is now. I and my sons went out and spoke
to all of the people that are here today that
are impacted by this property. I tried getting
in touch with the Keszei family and I don’t
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think they were living there at the time, if
they were, I knocked, I left business cards,
and Mr. Gray told me perhaps the best thing
to do was to get in touch with Mr. Keszei.
Never once did I misrepresent the facts that
we were doing this development. It was
always the City, I explained what they were
doing, they were looking to relocate the
retention ponds, so I take exception to what
you had to say, Mr. Keszei, because that’s
not true. I personally talked to you three or
four times about this project. The only reason
we were involved was because we owned
that shopping center and we were looking at
opportunities of maybe buying from the City
the excess ground to be created when they
improve retention for that area. So, that’s
how we got involved. If Mrs. Brady or Mr.
Gray, if I’m not telling you the truth, we
talked about that, so I just wanted to make
that very clear.
I think it is the right thing to do. I think that
there has been a lot that has happened out in
this area over time and things change. And as
more property is developed out there you
have to address these types of concerns. I am
happy to see that the City has spent a lot of
time, and a lot of money investigating the
best way to handle this problem. I think they
are on the right track so, thank you for that
opportunity.
Mr. Ward
asked Mr. Davey if he could ask
him a question and Mr. Davey agreed: Again,
I was involved putting the cisterns in in the
parking lot at Christian Center and if you
would like to quadruple the size of the
cisterns or the number of the cisterns in the
Christian Center parking that would
eliminate the water running down the hill.
Why can’t they just put many, many cisterns
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in that parking lot? That would eliminate the
need for ponds altogether.
Mr. Davey
: I am not an engineer so I can’t
answer that question. But I’ve got to believe
that the City has investigated those types of
opportunities.
Mr. Ward
: It is obviously easier to put in a
pond in. You’d have to take up the asphalt,
you’d have to dig a deep hole, and go down
below the clay level. Thank you.
Mr. Arthur Gray
: I own the property
immediately west of the three areas to be
acquired on Hawbaker Street. Just several
questions, a lot of what I have been
concerned about has been dealt with by the
other people that have spoken here today.
One, I’d like, if there is anyone here that can
give me some input on similar areas,
residential areas that have been affected by
retention ponds, what has been the effect on
their property value? Is there anyone here
that can give me input on them? Has it been
negative, has it been positive? (Mr. Schalliol
asked if the Commission wanted him to
address that.) Mr. Gray continued: I think
you have answered my question without
answering it.
Ms. Jones
: No, I have not. The best person
to answer it would be Bill or someone
involved with real estate. I know there are a
lot of developments that are going on…
Mr. Relos
: We just put in a new retention
pond over by Oliver Plow and there were
people who did not want to move out. They
are fifteen feet away from the retention pond.
We tried to acquire their properties, and they
did not want to move, they wanted to stay
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where they are, so I would have to believe
that they felt that it wasn’t a negative impact.
The pond is on Arnold.
Mr. Gray
: On Walnut near where Kokoku
Wire used to be?
Mr. Relos
: It is right back of where the old
Oliver factory was.
Mr. Schalliol
: Off of Chapin Street, where
the industrial park is with the Oliver smoke
stack.
Mr. Gray
: Were the houses are of similar
value?
Mr. Schalliol
: No.
Mr. Gray
: Are they less?
Mr. Schalliol
: They are just different, a
different area and different circumstances.
Mr. Gray
: Was the property valued at less
than $100,000?
Mr. Schalliol
: We just built a big retention
pond off of York Road by the York Road
Fire Station surrounded by residential,
surrounded by schools. We have asked some
of the appraisers that we deal with to get an
understanding how values might have been
affected in that area and, because Mrs. Brady
has asked that question, we have asked our
appraisers. I don’t have a good feel there,
their answer was it just depends on the
situation. The pond that we built at York, the
pond that we built at Oliver, they are
completely different style ponds than were
built back in the ‘40s and ‘50s and ‘60s, so it
is considerably different nature. While it
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might affect the value, it might not affect
value, so we are trying to get a good answer
on that. Again, it just depends upon the site.
Mr. Davey
: I can talk about Edison Lakes.
We have built retention ponds everywhere.
We have a very high water table out there
and we have a lot of unfavorable slope out
there so there is retention everywhere. So, it
can be done and it can be done well. It hasn’t
affected us thus far, and a lot of it has to do
with how it is maintained. There is no doubt
about that. That would be an important part
of it.
Mr. Gray
: I have lived on that property for
thirty five years. I have never, ever, in that
entire time, before the area was developed or
since it has been developed, experienced any
degree of major water problems. Now all of a
sudden this becomes a big issue. I also know
that right east of Ireland and Miami we have
a huge mall area out there that has been
covered with cement and asphalt all over the
place, yet there are no retention ponds there.
I find that interesting. Now all of a sudden in
this little isolated area, we have a need for
movement of retention ponds to make land
available for some other more useful purpose
for someone. And it just strikes me as being
very odd and unusual with the timing on this.
It doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of sense
at all. I haven’t witnessed any water
problems, yet I hear everybody voicing
concern, hearing many people about all the
water problems and it would be best for the
area. Tell me why they didn’t need any
across from Scottsdale Mall? A lot more land
there, the lot was covered up where it
couldn’t be drained by land. I am concerned
about those things and wonder if there aren’t
some things going on here that are a better
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explanation of why this project is even being
undertaken. And, it doesn’t leave a good taste
in my mouth. Thank you.
Ms. Brady
: It is just more of a comment, and
I don’t know what your name is. David, what
you had said and what Mr. Davey had said
about the ponds that they can look beautiful.
I agree, I’ve seen retention ponds with
curved rocks around them, and they can look
beautiful. Once again, for the Brady house, it
doesn’t affect those who don’t have a two
year old, but for me, yes it may look
beautiful and that may even increase our
property value but we would not want to
choose to live next to that because we are
planning on having more children and I am
not comfortable, I would not have ever
chosen to invest in a home that is going to be
so close to water. I just want to reiterate that,
so that you guys understand. I’m not trying to
say let’s not do this project; and yes, it could
look beautiful and even if it would increase
our property values, to us it would decrease
the safety value. This is a major concern that
we have.
Mr. Relos
: Oliver Plow Works was just done
within the last few months, do you know
where Oliver Plow is? It is right behind
Underground Pipe and Value and is the
newest, as far as I know, that the City has
done. I suggest you just go right behind
where Underground Pipe and Valve is
building their new location. You can drive
back there, right up to the pond and take a
look at it. That would be a good example.
Ms. Brady
: I am just thinking for us it is a
lose/lose, because it is either going to be
fenced or contained in some fashion and
there is going to be debris and trash that
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collects. The City is not going to be able to
come every day to pick it up. Or it will be
open and beautiful, but a real safety hazard
for our home because we are, you can see
from the picture we are right there.
Ms. Jones asked for those who had not had
an opportunity to speak yet.
Mr. Terry Wruble
: Me and my wife live in
the middle property that is going to be
acquired. We lived there for a year and a
half. I just want the board to know what kind
of neighborhood it is, you know. Most of the
houses, I think, were owned by the church
and were fairly dilapidated. When we
bought our house, it needed a lot of work. It
still does. I have been doing that kind of
thing for my whole life and look forward to
fixing this house up. We are getting on to the
age where we don’t want to do this any more,
so I came to this meeting to get an answer.
We have been dealing with this “we’re going
to buy the house, we’re not going to buy the
house” for a year now. It’s time to make a
decision. This project needs to go forward or
you’re going to tell us, OK. I either want you
to make a decision or go away so we can get
on with our lives. And that being said, I also
want to say this man here said they gave
people choices if they didn’t want to be
acquired. The person here is willing to be
acquired, under the same circumstances. She
doesn’t want to live there, and I think you
need to really think about that and get what
she is saying. She has just as much of an
argument as the people that don’t want to
move as the people who do want to move.
So, that’s all I have to say.
Mr. Keszei
: You are talking about the value
of Art Gray’s property and the other
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adjoining property, is anybody from the City
taking a look at the care that they take of the
current pond? It is ugly and polluted. I don’t
see how anybody can say that his value or
her value remain the same. His property
would go from like $150,000 to zero. Who
would want to live next to a sewage dump? It
is an eyesore, it is so nasty.
Mr. Ward
: I do know that it is a very
important thing to study. I know a person
who knows a property on U.S. 31, they paid
over $200,000 for it. The very first offer was
less than $200,000, then they came in with
eminent domain, and said you have to sell.
We’ll offer you $180,000, it was way less
than he paid for it. They gave an additional
$5,000, and this is…
Mrs. Jones
: This is the State.
Mr. Ward
: This is State. This has nothing to
do with the State?
Ms. Jones
: None.
Mr. Ward
: Eminent domain will never step
in?
Ms. Jones
: Right. We don’t have eminent
domain. The State has it for right of way for
the streets and things but we don’t.
Mr. Ward
: The State wasn’t offering him
the value—and he paid taxes for years.
Ms. Jones
: I am only familiar with the
regulations that we …
Mr. Ward
: They’re offering people I’m
sitting next to less money than it’s worth
to…than they had offered, on the same street.
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Ms. Brady
: Once, again, we would be
happy with the same offer that we had
previously.
Ms. Jo Simmons
: 63151 S.R. 331. Could I
just ask one more question? Somebody had
mentioned that the businesses around the
area hadn’t been sent letters. Why is that?
Ms. Jones
: First of all, procedurally, I just
wanted to tell you a couple of things, for
people who have never been here before.
When we do the public portion, we listen to
statements, and then we closed the public
portion. Then we will have the Commission
portion. I have lots of questions, too. We
will address that in our side. That’s,
procedurally, how things go.
Ms. Brady
: We did not receive public notice
of this hearing. We got information from our
neighbor. I don’t know if ours got lost in the
mail?
Mr. Gray
: I didn’t either.
Mr. Davey
: I just want to say, I know the
fellow that owns that, if you see Bowen
Drive, that’s the road that comes off of
Miami that’s right in front of Martins.
There’s a little shopping center, a little small
strip where Arby’s is. I know that floods.
Art, you sit on high ground. As you go up
Hawbaker, as you go west, that’s higher
ground than what you have down here. I
know that fellow has told me on a couple of
occasions that water has come into his
building there. So, there are problems out in
that area.
Another thing that is interesting, that yellow
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line you see where it says, “pond remains.”
Bill, is that about where that pipeline is?
There’s a very high volume gas pipeline
running right through there. It runs right
through the retention ponds. Just be aware of
that.
Ms. Jones asked if there was anyone else
who wished to speak regarding Resolution
No. 2667. There was no one else who
wished to speak. Ms. Jones closed the public
hearing for whatever action the Commission
wished to take.
(8) Approval of Resolution No. 2667
Mr. Downes said he has many questions.
Can anyone affirm for us, did we notify
neighboring businesses?
Mr. Schalliol responded that, based on state
law, notices go to the property owners whose
properties will be added to the Acquisition
List and to affected registered neighborhood
associations in time to be received at least ten
days before the public hearing. These
notices were mailed three weeks before the
hearing.
Mr. Downes said he heard a lot of conflicting
information about how long people have
known about the potential purchase of their
properties. Some mentioned knowing a year
ago, some said they didn’t get notice until
two weeks ago.
Mr. Schalliol noted that about a year and a
half ago, about the time we finished the
intersection of Miami and Ireland, we noticed
the property at Arby’s was flooding badly,
the ponds were seeing an increase in water.
About that same time we put a sensor into the
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storm sewer overflow.
Mr. Downes asked if the question of pond
capacity came up at the time the city widened
the intersection.
Mr. Schalliol responded that we knew when
we were doing Erskine Village six years ago
that we needed to address the drainage on the
west side of Miami. That was about the time
we looked to move the pond to the golf
course. And then we thought about selling
the golf course as part of a retention project.
Then, we went back to the concept of putting
retention ponds into the golf course. The
problem with the retention needs that we
have are that we need holes. We don’t need
ponds with fountains, because there’s
nowhere to put the water. Ponds with
fountains require a more or less constant
level of water. As we worked with the golf
course to design a system that would allow
for water to look nice, but would also allow
for the overflow. In 2009 there were eleven
days of course closure at Erskine Golf
Course due to flooding. For years before we
put in the sensor, every time it would rain it
would flood out the Twyckenham Hills
neighborhood. Anybody who didn’t have
proper systems would get water in their
basement.
This has been a long, ongoing problem. The
ponds were developed years ago, before we
had the 100-yr storm water requirements.
They are very under-sized. Maintenance has
been an issue. As we’ve explored the
condition of these ponds, we’ve found some
places where there is 14 ft of silt built up.
Even clearing the existing ponds out would
improve the situation. The existing ponds
are not large enough to re-slope to get the
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depth needed for adequate drainage. New,
larger ponds would allow the proper sloping
for good drainage. This project does call for
reshaping the interior, middle pond.
When we first started looking at the pond
project, we had a lot of input from Menards,
Martins, etc. When we were looking at
putting the ponds on the golf course, we had
to take the ponds out. There are ten pipes
that come into the eastern edge of the
existing pond. We would have had to put a
whole new pipe system in, so High Street
would have been closed for a long time while
that was done. Just to get the water over to
the golf course. There had been contact with
adjacent businesses over the years as we
looked at the initial design, because they
wouldn’t have had Ireland Road access for a
period of time.
This project, as designed, wouldn’t require
tearing out the street, only some basic
maintenance on the pipes. Communication
with them has not been necessary.
Mr. Downes asked what’s been the major
cause of the deterioration of the existing
ponds. Mr. Schalliol responded there has
been forty years of neglect. Before the
improvements to the Ireland/Miami
intersection, all the rain water there had been
going into the combined sewers. That rain
water now goes into the ponds and further
taxes them.
Mr. Downes asked what happened a year ago
to break down negotiations with the Brady
family. Mr. Schalliol responded that when
staff originally started looking at this project,
we looked at a way to take out both ponds
and build two new ponds where the two
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houses are squared out on the north side of
Hawbaker. But state law requires a drainage
structure to be 150 yards from a cemetery.
By the time we would give the pond a 150-
yard setback, the pond’s size would be too
small. Also, because of the high pressured
gas pipeline that runs through that area, you
would have to construct two ponds, one on
either side of the pipeline. That didn’t seem
like the best idea. The concept of keeping
the interior pond and constructing a new one
south of Hawbaker developed. The
properties on the north side of the street were
no longer needed.
Mr. Schalliol noted that the city was
interested in converting the pond on Miami
to a development site. Chris Davey was
interested in purchasing the development site
if one became available. So Mr. Davey
approached home owners about purchasing
their property to trade city for the Miami
Street (pond) site. The city would use the
Hawbaker property for a new pond. That’s
how Chris Davey has been involved. Mr.
Schalliol assured the Commission those
conversations always made it clear that the
city was involved.
Mr. Alford asked if the city has a
maintenance procedure for its ponds. Mr.
Schalliol responded that it does. He noted
that the city didn’t acquire responsibility for
these ponds until about ten years ago. They
were privately owned. They are tough to get
to. Until the city started studying the ponds
in anticipation of moving them, we didn’t
know how deficient they were in their ability
to drain. The water table in the south side
36’ below grade. If we can get the water to
the permeable network, it will drain well.
What we didn’t know until we drained them
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a couple of weeks ago was that the reason
they didn’t work was they were full of silt.
There are some basic things we need to do to
clean them up anyway. As part of the larger
project, we would rebuild the interior pond
and it would be built to be maintainable and
to be more of an asset. It will still be a hole.
It won’t be a pond with a fountain in it. But
it will be a maintainable hole.
Ms. King asked the difference between the
capacity of the pond that we would be
closing and the one to be constructed. Mr.
Schalliol responded that the new pond will be
deeper and wider. He didn’t know the exact
difference in volume. Staff is still working
on the design. To make this pond a feasible
pond for this network would require all three
properties. Originally staff looked at
acquiring the Gray property, but its elevation
is higher and wouldn’t benefit the drainage of
the pond.
In 2003 the city did buy a property just off
the bypass on the south side of Widener
Lane. It bought that property with the
intention of using it for drainage from the
bypass, but the route of the bypass was
changed. That property doesn’t drain well.
Also, we had to put a large utility pole in the
middle of it to serve the mall.
Ms. King asked if we might just maintain the
two ponds we have and make them more
effective. Mr. Schalliol responded that we
would still need more drainage. Even if we
sloped them properly and cleaned out the
bottom.
Mr. Downes said he heard mention of work
to the bypass, or expansion and asked what
that was about. Tell me about the feasibility
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of other locations on or adjacent to… Mr.
Schalliol responded The proposal with the
U.S. 31 Corridor South, it’s a larger road
segment. To accommodate that, it starts to
flare the road out, add another lane. At
Fellows St. which is the next light west,
there’s a proposal for a flyover for the local
traffic to come over from south to north---an
overpass over the bypass that we connect
those areas. As part of that there may be an
opportunity to take some of this water out of
this network and put a pond over there. But
they aren’t far enough along in their design
to know that.
Ms. Jones asked if there’s no area behind
Martins, going up to the … Mr. Schalliol
responded that there’s a neighborhood…
Ms. Jones asked if there’s no empty property.
Mr. Schalliol responded that there is not.
The only empty property is the one that we
own that doesn’t give us enough area, it’s
uphill, poor soil.
Mr. Downes said he felt like he needs more
information. He would like to table this item
until the staff can respond to some of the
unanswered questions.
C
Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by
OMMISSION CONTINUED ITS DISCUSSION OF
6.A.(8)
ITEM UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
Ms. King and unanimously carried, the
Commission continued its discussion of item
6.A.(8) until further notice.
C. South Bend Central Development Area
(2) Resolution No. 2669 approving and
authorizing an Addendum to the Master
Agency Agreement (Coveleski Stadium
Improvements Phase 1A, Project 2)
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Mr. Schalliol noted that the Commission
previously budgeted $1M for the Phase IA,
Coveleski Park Improvements. $750,000
was authorized to be spent on Phase 1A,
Project 1. By the time we have completed
Phase 1A, we will have spent approximately
$650,000 of that. Today’s request is to
approve the use of an additional $250,000 for
Project 2, restrooms, gutters, dugout
improvements and sewage ejector pumps.
Quotes will be opened April 12 for that
project. We expect them to be approximately
$170,000. We want to be able to award on
those quotes.
Mr. Downes asked about the timing of
installation of the new nets and backstop.
Mr. Schalliol noted that after the next home
games, installation of the nets will start and
be completed by the end of April. The wall
pads installation will start during the
following away stand and be completed by
early May.
Mr. Downes stated for the record that he is a
minor investor in the Silverhawks. Legal
councel has determined he does not have a
conflict of interest on items related to
Coveleski improvements.
CRN.2669
Upon a motion by Ms. King, seconded by
OMMISSION APPROVED ESOLUTION O
A
APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING AN DDENDUM
Mr. Alford and unanimously carried, the
MAA
TO THE ASTER GENCY GREEMENT
Commission approved Resolution No. 2669
(CSIP
OVELESKI TADIUM MPROVEMENTS HASE
approving and authorizing an Addendum to
1A,P2)
ROJECT
the Master Agency Agreement (Coveleski
Stadium Improvements Phase 1A, Project 2)
D. Airport Economic Development Area
(3) Olive Road Parcel 14 transfer to Board of
Public Works.
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Mr. Schalliol noted that the Olive Road
project extends from Lincolnway to Nimtz
Parkway, west of the airport. The
Commission has owned Parcel 14 for
approximately ten years. Staff would like to
transfer a sliver of that to the Board of Public
Works for road work right of way.
C
Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by
OMMISSION APPROVED THE TRANSFER OF
ORP14B
LIVE OAD ARCEL TO THE OARD OF
Ms. King and unanimously carried, the
PW
UBLIC ORKS
Commission approved the transfer of Olive
Road Parcel 14 to the Board of Public
Works.
B. Housing
(1) Loan and Grant in connection with the
South Bend Home Improvement Loan
Program for property located at 1801 S.
Kendall Street. (Donna M. Wright)
CLG
Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by
OMMISSION APPROVED THE OAN AND RANT
SBH
IN CONNECTION WITH THE OUTH END OME
Ms. King and unanimously carried, the
ILP
MPROVEMENT OAN ROGRAM FOR PROPERTY
Commission approved the Loan and Grant in
1801S.KS.(D
LOCATED AT ENDALL TREET ONNA
connection with the South Bend Home
M.W)
RIGHT
Improvement Loan Program for property
located at 1801 S. Kendall Street. (Donna M.
Wright)
(2) Loan and Grant in connection with the
South Bend Home Improvement Loan
Program for property located at 1806 E.
Fox Street. (Lisa D. Callahan)
CLG
Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by
OMMISSION APPROVED THE OAN AND RANT
SBH
IN CONNECTION WITH THE OUTH END OME
Ms. King and unanimously carried, the
ILP
MPROVEMENT OAN ROGRAM FOR PROPERTY
Commission approved the Loan and Grant in
1806E.FS.(LD.
LOCATED AT OX TREET ISA
connection with the South Bend Home
C)
ALLAHAN
Improvement Loan Program for property
located at 1806 E. Fox Street. (Lisa D.
Callahan)
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C. South Bend Central Development Area
(1) Proposal for landscaping services in the
South Bend Central Development Area.
(118 S. William and Southwest corner
Main and Jefferson)
Mr. Relos noted that staff would like to plant
trees on three Commission owned vacant
lots. All three are surrounded by large paved
parking lots. The planting of trees would
beautify the lots as well as downtown. The
three lots are at 118 S. William, the
southwest corner of LaSalle and William and
the southwest corner of Jefferson and Main.
The trees will be provided through the Park
Department’s City Forester. For a total cost
of $13,164. Mr. Relos asked for
authorization to spend up to $14,000. Staff
recommends approval.
C
Upon a motion by Ms. King, seconded by
OMMISSION APPROVED THE PROPOSAL FOR
SB
LANDSCAPING SERVICES IN THE OUTH END
Mr. Downes and unanimously carried, the
CDA.(118S.
ENTRAL EVELOPMENT REA
Commission approved the proposal for
WSM
ILLIAM AND OUTHWEST CORNER AIN AND
landscaping services in the South Bend
J)
EFFERSON
Central Development Area. (118 S. William
and Southwest corner Main and Jefferson)
D. Airport Economic Development Area
(1) Progress report on Phase II of the
Contract with The Blue Waters Group for
marketing/communication activities
related to Ignition Park
Mr. Price noted that the Commission has
supported marketing communication efforts
to enable the City of South Bend to make the
most of the designation of MIND in this
community by hiring Blue Waters Group to
develop an image and marketing materials as
well as publication of those materials across
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a wide media range. A year ago Blue Waters
Group report on their Phase 1 work. Today,
Patrick Strickler, president of the firm, is
here to give an update on Phase 2.
We already have some good indications of
the success we’ve had. This week the city
released results of a survey conducted in
2009 and 2010 on progress we’ve seen.
Nearly seven of every ten residents feel
optimistic about South Bend’s economic
future; more than 56% of residents are aware
of Ignition Park, a jump of 16% since last
year’s survey; and nearly a majority of
residents say that Ignition Park is important
to South Bend’s economic future.
Mr. Strickler expressed his thanks and
pleasure at being able to address the
Commission. Mr. Strickler noted that Blue
Waters Group (BWG) did not participate in
the research Mr. Price just spoke of. That
would not have been appropriate. BWG did
not in any way influence that research.
However, in his presentation Mr. Strickler
intends to talk about what they think the
results of that study mean.
Mr. Strickler noted that it is very difficult to
change public opinion. So, it is significant
that 60% of the people of South Bend are
optimistic for South Bend’s future. But,
more importantly, Mr. Strickler has seen a
sea change in leadership in South Bend. This
community is really pulling together at the
leadership level: Notre Dame, the City of
South Bend, Project Future, etc. People
around the country are taking notice of South
Bend because of the way it has stepped to the
table to work with Notre Dame to promote
nanotechnology research.
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The BWG project team has invested over
2200 hours of professional service over eight
months during Phase 2 of its contract. They
have distributed into the local economy
income for a wide variety of vendors. They
hire local vendors and people.
In Phase 1 BWG built Ignition Park’s
distinctive identity and began to create
promotional materials and a Web site. That
generated a lot of national interest, which
doesn’t get seen locally. There are thousands
of stories in press and on the Web about the
new South Bend.
In Phase 2 which began June 2009 and will
wrap up about June 2010, the strategy has
been to strengthen local awareness, generate
more positive attitudes toward the city and its
partners in these initiatives, and increased the
teamwork between all the partners. A lot of
people are seeing the paradigm shift from an
industrial based economy to a knowledge
based economy in South Bend and want to be
part of it.
While Ignition Park is still vacant land, a
vision, an opportunity, the study showed a lot
of people know about it. That is amazing.
45% of respondents in the survey understand
the importance of the relationship between
MIND, Notre Dame’s Innovation Park and
Ignition Park.
Mr. Strickler said that the South Bend ON
newsletter that is distributed nationally has a
very strong readership. BWG is seeing
“click-through rates” to the underlying
stories of 40%. That is double what is
expected from similar distribution.
Phase 2 has also enhanced the Ignition Park
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Web site with, among other things, a new
fly-through with Mayor Luecke talking. Site
visits to the Ignition Park Web site increase
every time South Bend ON distributes a new
newsletter.
(2) Confidential Settlement Agreement and
Release (Allstate Insurance Company,
Oliver Plow property)
CC
Upon a motion by Mr. Downes, seconded by
OMMISSION APPROVED THE ONFIDENTIAL
SAR
ETTLEMENT GREEMENT AND ELEASE
Mr. Alford and unanimously carried, the
(AIC,O
LLSTATE NSURANCE OMPANY LIVER
Commission approved the Confidential
P)
LOW PROPERTY
Settlement Agreement and Release (Allstate
Insurance Company, Oliver Plow property)
E. West Washington-Chapin Development Area
There was no business in the West Washington-
Chapin Development Area.
F. South Side Development Area
There was no business in the South Side
Development Area.
G. Northeast Neighborhood Development Area
There was no business in the Northeast
Neighborhood Development Area.
H. Douglas Road Economic Development Area
There was no business in the Douglas Road
Economic Development Area.
7. PROGRESS REPORTS
PR
There was no report.
ROGRESS EPORTS
8. NEXT COMMISSION MEETING
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NCM
The next meeting of the Redevelopment Commission is
EXT OMMISSION EETING
scheduled for Friday, April 23, 2010 at 10:00 a.m.
9. ADJOURNMENT
A
There being no further business to come before the
DJOURNMENT
Redevelopment Commission, Ms. King made a motion
that the meeting be adjourned. Mr. Downes seconded
the motion and the meeting was adjourned at 12:00 p.m.
EXECUTIVE SESSION April 9, 2010
The South Bend Redevelopment Commission met in Executive Session on Friday,
April 9, 2010, at 9:30 a.m. The meeting was held in Room 1200 County-City Building, 227
West Jefferson, South Bend, Indiana, for the purposes specified in I.C. 5-14-1.5-6.1(b)(B).
Commissioner’s Present: Marcia Jones, President; Nancy King, Secretary; Greg Downes. Others
Present: Jeff Gibney, Executive Director, Community & Economic Development, Attorney
Charles Leone, Attorney Lawrence Meteiver, David Relos, Ann Kolata, and Robert Mathia. The
Commission certifies that no topic was discussed other than the subject matter specified in the
Public Notice. The Executive Session was adjourned at 10:00 a.m.
CITY OF SOUTH BEND,
DEPARTMENT OF REDEVELOPMENT
South Bend Redevelopment Commission
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