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OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
KAREEMAH FOWLER,CITY CLERK
COMMUNITY INVESTMENT SEPTEMBER 11, 2017 4:20 P.M.
Committee Members Present: Gavin Ferlic, Regina Williams-Preston, Oliver Davis, Will
Smith(citizen member)
Committee Members Absent: Randy Kelly
Other Council Present: Tim Scott, Jo M. Broden, John Voorde, Karen White
Other Council Absent: Dr. David Varner
Others Present: Kareemah Fowler, Graham Sparks, Bob Palmer
Presenters: Oliver Davis, James Mueller, Eric Horvath
Agenda: Bill No. 17-56-Addressing the Double Tracking of the
South Shore with Regard to Residents of Ardmore
Neighborhood
Bill No. 48-17- Tax Abatement Amendment (Continued)
Committee Chair Gavin Ferlic called to order the Community Investment Committee meeting at
4:20 p.m. He introduced members of the Committee and proceeded to give the floor to the
presenters.
Bill No. 17-56-Addressing the Double Tracking of the South Shore with Regard to
Residents of Ardmore Neighborhood
Oliver Davis, 1801 Nash Street, stated, I am a social worker for Dickinson and Coquillard
school. I am over in the Ardmore Area often and I see a lot of the families from the schools. In
talks with them we wanted to come up with a resolution that is pro-Transit and at the same time
pro-Neighborhood. The $25 million has not been discussed with the Council because it goes
through the Redevelopment Commission. I want to thank all the co-sponsors of this legislation.
This resolution is a summary everything that has gone on in the news. We recognize Ardmore is
not in the City but the proposed track would displace many people. The main question is whether
or not the $25 million is worth the ten minute travel deduction.
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James Mueller, Executive Director of Community Investment with offices on the 14th floor of the
County-City Building, stated, The Administration shares a lot of the goals of this resolution to
make sure we get this fifty (50) year decision right. We have two (2)points with this resolution.
We first want to know what we are expecting out of the two (2) firm study. If you are referencing
the full study,that is already required as the environmental assessment. It is incredibly expensive
for just one (1) firm, let alone two (2). We want to know what the Council expects from the two
(2) firm study. The second bullet in the resolution is actually a matter of federal law so they
would be reimbursed by the Federal government. Also, if this passes with the third bullet
remaining as written, it would make the whole project infeasible.
Committee Chair Ferlic suggested the co-sponsors and the Council Attorney, Bob Palmer,to
work with James to find the correct language to make the resolution passable before the 7:00
p.m. Council meeting.
Councilmember Tim Scott asked, What does it cost for having two (2) studies instead of one (1)?
Mr. Mueller replied, It depends.
Committeemember Davis stated, People want options.
Mr. Mueller stated, Feasibility studies range in the tens of thousands, but if you were to do the
whole study we are talking about hundreds of thousands.
Eric Horvath, Director of Public Works with offices on the 13'floor of the County-City
Building, stated, Feasibility studies determine if there is a path there and what it would take to
build it. That probably costs around $50,000 to $100,000. The other analysis that takes into
account the NEPA requirements is $500,000 to $700,000.
Councilmember Scott then asked, Is the study in the resolution referencing the feasibility study?
In my experience usually we do three (3) firms.
Committeemember Regina Williams-Preston stated, It is important for us to demonstrate our
commitment to development without displacement. Whether it costs additional funds or time it is
worth it. We need to look at people over profit.
Councilmember Karen White stated, This is a fifty (50) year decision and we must address all
the questions, especially from those that will be impacted. If people have to be displaced we
must do our very best to make them whole.
Committeemember Will Smith asked, So there has not been any sort of economic impact
analysis the City is aware of?
Mr. Mueller replied, There has been some preliminary research done with coalitions but for the
record, we have not entered into an agreement with NICT on this. This is still in the preliminary
stages.
Committeemember Smith followed up, I just want to make sure that if we are spending $25
million that it will bring the benefits that we actually need.
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Mr. Mueller replied, The goal of this is to create South Bend as a commuter City to Chicago. In
terms of dollar-per-minute saved, this is the cheaper alternative than the double-tracking project.
Committee Chair Ferlic then opened the floor to members of the public wishing to speak in favor
of or in opposition to the legislation.
Mick Perry, 901 E. Fox Street, stated, Actual double-tracking goes from Michigan City to Gary.
I can see the wisdom of cutting down the time. I'm also concerned to hear the possibility of
losing homes. Why couldn't we consider putting the track along Lincolnway?
Randy Dudeck, 55171 Homes Road, stated, I want to know the reason for dead-ending the
railroad at the airport. It used to be out of the Amtrack Station and the quickest way between two
(2) points is a straight line. If you put it back to where the Amtrack Station is then maybe they
could run lines to Elkhart or Goshen.
James Dudeck, 55443 Orchid Road, stated, I concur with that. There would be more bang for the
buck if they did that.
Jeff Rea, President and CEO of the South Bend Chamber of Commerce located at 101 N.
Michigan Street, stated, I'm not philosophically opposed to the content of the resolution. I'm just
here to thank the Council on behalf of the Chamber for taking leadership on this important issue.
We understand there are a number of details needed to be worked out but hope, at the end of the
day, we accomplish the goal of becoming a commuter City to Chicago. I also think the language
of making someone whole is very subjective and we need-to be careful of what that means.
Marty Wolfson, 809 Park Avenue, stated, I support this. We are proposing $25 million,
displacing thirty-five (3 5)to forty (40) families and saving nine (9)to ten(10)minutes in the
commute from South Bend to Chicago and there is no concrete study that has been done to
document the specific benefits. I would support a much stronger resolution that states we won't
spend the money until we know more about the impact.
Joseph Shabazz, 906 Blaine Avenue, stated, I've listened to the conversation and I hope this
doesn't turn into something where you'll favor some residents over others. I hope you haven't
decided that there is a particular group of people who are more entitled to keep their house than
others.
Sue Kessim, 4022 Kennedy Drive, stated, I'm also concerned with the terminology of making
someone whole. It is really easy to relocate when you are young but we are eighty(80) and I
have no idea where I would go. It is important to remember that there are real people in these
homes. There is a person behind these decisions and they need to keep that in mind.
Committeemember Davis stated, South Bend would not have double-tracking. There will be
comments tonight regarding the dead-ending of the train at the airport. This resolution didn't
want to address that yet because we are still in the early stages. I wanted to start the conversation
and come to the middle ground.
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Committeemember Williams-Preston made a motion to send Bill No. 17-56 to the full Council
with no recommendation. Committeemember Davis seconded the motion which carried by a
voice vote of three (3) ayes and one (1) nay(Committeemember Smith).
Bill No. 48-17- Tax Abatement Amendment (Continued)
Committeemember Davis made a motion to continue Bill No. 48-17 indefinitely.
Committeemember Williams-Preston seconded the motion which carried unanimously by a voice
vote of four(4) ayes.
With no further business, Committee Chair Ferlic adjourned the Community Investment
Committee meeting at 4:53 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Gavin Ferlic, Chairperson
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