01-24-77 Council Meeting Minutes

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Im REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 24, 1977 COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (CONTINUED) ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATING MONEYS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DEFRAYING THE EXPENSES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT AND TRAINING, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BE- GINNING JANUARY 1, 1977 AND ENDING DECEMBER 31, 1977 INCLUDING ALL OUTSTANDING CLAIMS AND OBLIGA- TIONS, AND FIXING A TIME WHEN THE SAME SHALL TAKE EFFECT. This being the time heretofore set for public hearing on the above ordinance, proponents and op- ponents were given an opportunity to be heard. Mr. Elroy Kelzenberg, Director of Employment and Training, made the presentation for the ordinance. He said Resolution No. 517 -76, adopted March 22, 1976, authorized the Mayor to apply for funds under the Comprehensive Employment and Training Act of 1973, and that Section II called for the submission of a line item budget for the Common Council's approval. He said that in accordance they had prepared a proposed line item budget for the expenditure of Title I allocations for 1977. He said that their fiscal year allocations were not concurrent with the calendar year, since their fiscal year was October 1, 1976 to Sept- ember 30, 1977. He said their present allocation is $1,450,491. He said they have been operating the present quarter mostly with FY 1976 carry -out funds, and for the same reason, the proposed budget extends one full quarter into their fiscal year 1978, for which they do not presently have allocations. He said their staff and program costs are absorbed under other titles of the Act, specifically II, III and VI. He said he would like to offer certain amendments: In the title, change the word appropriating to approving; after defraying insert "the CETA Title I "; in Section I where the word appropriated occurs insert approved. Council Member Miller made a motion to amen the ordinance as requested, seconded by Council Member Dombrowski. The motion carried. Council Member Miller made a motion to recommend this ordinance, as amended, to the Council favorable, seconded by Council Member Dombrowski. Council Member Adams indicated that the administration and personnel under Title I overlap into Titles IT and VI. She said that account 260.0, contractual services, has already been in effect since October 1. She said she would like to postpone approvi this until the other two budgets are submitted so the Council could see the entire budget. She indicated that her committee, Administration and Finance, met last week and they recommended the Council postpone approval. Council Member Miller indicated there might be some overlapping, but he did not understand the reason for the delay. Council Member Adams indicated that until the Council was able to see what the clients under Titles II and VI receive, she did not feel she could approve the support personnel as noted. Council Member Miller indicated that in this budget there were only three salaries over $15,000. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated that was correct. He then explained his department's reporting procedure to the Department of Labor. Council Member Miller commended Council Member Adams for doing an excellent job of getting information. He said he woul recommend the Council go ahead and recommend this ordinance favorable. Council Member Kopczynski asked how many clients were being serviced under this program. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated 4.25 at one time. Council Member Kopczynski asked how many were on his staff. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated 26. Council Member Taylor asked if this hearing was postponed would it jeopardize the program. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated he did not think so. Council Member Horvath indicated he could not vote for this ordinance at this meeting. Council President Parent indicated that this ordinance was still in committee. He indicated the chairman of the committee had recommended this hearing be postponed until all budgets were submitted. He said he recommended this be delayed and kept in committee. He said when presentations are made to the Council, he thought more use should be made of the overhead projector in order that the public could understand what was being presented. He said that perhaps the City Clerk could communicate this to the department heads. Mayor Peter Nemeth indicated this was a Federal program passed by the Congress and the purpose of the program was to create jobs. He indicated he thought the Council should have some sympathy for Mr. Kelzenb Council Member Horvath indicated that when the Mayor was on the Council he was the one who re- quested that Federal budgets come before the Council. Council Member Adams indicated that she still felt the Council should not approve this until the entire budget was submitted. She indicat the budget was not submitted timely and some of this could have been handled if it had been sub- mitted last year. She indicated it would be all right to submit this for the CETA fiscal year. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated that right now there would be no difficultly in presenting the other two budgets, but he would not have been able to do that in September because in many instances allocations come at different times. He said the allocation for Title I came November 20 for the fiscal year. Council Member Kopczynski indicated he questioned the hiring practices being used by CETA. He said he thought this was more important than the budget. He said he wanted to make sure there was no discrimination in the hiring policy. He said this was a matter of whether the program is even worth having in the community. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated that they did not hire employees, and that they would be happy to explain the basis of the practice. Council Member Serg indicated he had heard nothing but praise for the program. A roll call vote was taken on the motion to recommend this to the Council favorable. The motion lost by a vote of three ayes (Council Members Serge, Szymkowiak and Miller) and six nays (Council Members Taylor, Kopczynski, Adams, Dombrowski, Horvath and Parent). Council Member Adams asked if there would be time to have the other budgets filed for first reading February 14, so we could have second reading February 28. Mr. Kelzenberg indicated they would. Council Member Adams made a motion to continue public hearin until February 28, seconded by Council Member Dombrowski. The motion carried. Mayor Nemeth asked if they could continue expending the funds. Council President Parent said there was no indication they should stop, so they could continue. Council Member Parent made a motion to rise and report to the Council, and recess, seconded by Council Member Dombrowski. The motion carried. The meeting was recessed at 8:20 and reconvened at 8:40. ATTEST: ATTEST: City Clerk Chairman IN g•