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REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 27 1975 <br />;OMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING (CONTINUED) <br />he hoped the Council and citizens would not have to go through the same problems and objections- <br />experienced with the center being located in the Park Avenue neighborhood. He wondered if a <br />meeting could be set up with the residents in the area to discuss the program. He felt a "monster" <br />had been created. He stated that he also felt every neighborhood should take a share of the public <br />burdens, and he noted that the North Frances Street location already had the Youth Services Bureau <br />and the Aurora House. Council President Parent stated that, as a comparison, a practicing <br />psychologist could have his office in a residential area. He briefly talked about zoning, stating <br />that the program had been put into a residential area. He felt the Council should not have involve <br />itself in the matter. He wondered if a lawsuit should be filed concerning the use of such a center <br />in a residential district. He also wondered what the community wanted. He stated that the Council <br />was not elected to be computers, but was elected to study the issues thoroughly and reach an <br />intelligent decision. He could not see the logic in moving the center from the Park Avenue area to <br />the Frances Street location. He indicated that it was much cheaper to rehabilitate someone than to <br />send him to prison. He stated that there were 500 addicts in the city and that addicts already <br />live in most neighborhoods. He felt that, everyone should be concerned about addicts in the <br />neighborhoods, and at least those in the Delos House were being treated for their addiction. He <br />stated that he would be happy to approve the funds to search for a new location. <br />ouncilman Miller made a motion to amend the ordinance as follows: <br />Amend the word "building" to "real estate" in Section I. <br />Add the following phrase after the amount of $50,000: <br />"and commonly designated 420 North Frances Street; and subject to a purchase <br />price which shall be not greater than the average of not less than two <br />appraisals by two or more members of a national appraisal association; and <br />including remodeling costs necessary to meet minimum state code; and <br />necessary transaction costs." <br />Councilman Taylor seconded the motion. Councilman Kopczynski felt the amendment changed the <br />ordinance drastically and should, therefore, be re- advertised because the location was being made <br />specific. Council President Parent felt Councilman Kopczynski had a good point. He stated that <br />the issue was the appropriation of $50,000 for "a building" and he did not feel the Council could <br />amend the ordinance in this manner. He felt the ordinance should be left open so that another <br />location could be made available. He stated that he had informed certain persons that a definite <br />location was not the issue -- merely the appropriation of funds to seek "a building ". He stated that <br />he would oppose the amendment. Councilman Serge stated that he agreed with Councilman Horvath on <br />his statement regarding the problems and objections received by the Council in the past concerning <br />the location. He stated that he had had enough of the problems created by the project. He felt <br />the center should be located in a commercial district and not a residential district. Chairman <br />Newburn indicated that, when the program became unacceptable in every area considered, the matter <br />should be brought to the Council. He stated that the public was under the impression that the <br />Council was going to approve funding for the location, not choose the location. Because of the <br />objections received in his proposal, Councilman Miller indicated that he would withdraw his motion <br />to amend. He stated that he felt the ordinance was inadequate and the Mayor had not taken a stand <br />and done the necessary work. He felt the whole concept should be re- worked. Recognizing that, he <br />made a motion to strike the ordinance. Councilman Kopczynski and Councilman Szymkowiak jointly <br />seconded the motion. Council President Parent wondered about a time period and the implications <br />of the motion to strike the ordinance. Councilman Kopczynski stated that the implications meant <br />"move ". He again repeated that the project belonged in an institutional district where there was <br />adequate and proper security. Chairman Newburn requested a roll call vote on the motion to strike <br />the ordinance, at which time Mr. Hojnacki indicated that the Council would be "killing the program" <br />if the motion carried. +He stated that the administration had been "ordered" to move the project <br />and, now that the administration had reached a decision to move the program to Frances Street, the <br />Council wanted to strike the ordinance. Chairman Newburn ruled Mr. Hojnacki out of order. He <br />stated emphatically that, by striking the ordinance, the Council was not killing the program. He <br />reminded Mr. Hojnacki that the Council had previously approved the funding of the program for 1975. <br />He stated that the issue was the appropriation of funds for relocation of Delos House and he did <br />not want Mr. Hojnacki to give the impression that the Council was killing the program. He also <br />stated that the Council had been led to believe that a final decision had not yet been made and <br />now Mr. Hojnacki had stated the administration had made a decision to move the treatment center to <br />North Frances Street. Councilman Kopczynski made a motion to recess, seconded by Council President <br />Parent. The motion carried, and the Committee of the Whole recessed at 8:27 p.m. Reconvened at <br />8:43 p.m. Councilman Miller indicated that he wished to withdraw his motion to strike the <br />ordinance. He then made a motion to amend the ordinance as follows: <br />Amend the word "building" to "real estate" in Section I. <br />Add the following phrase after the amount of $50,000: <br />"and commonly designated 420 North Frances Street; and subject to a purchase <br />price which shall be not greater than the average of not less than two <br />appraisals by two or more members of a national appraisal association; and <br />including remodeling costs necessary to meet minimum state code." <br />Councilman Taylor seconded the motion to amend. Council President Parent again stated that the <br />amendment was a separate issue from the program, and he could see no logic in moving the project <br />from one area to another in substantially the same character. Chairman Newburn indicated that the <br />proposed amendments were drastic, and perhaps the citizens should be given a right to speak on the <br />amendments. He asked if there were any comments or questions from the audience. An unidentified <br />gentleman wondered if there was a conflict of interest involved because the owner of the house was <br />a realtor and advisor to the Southeast Side Advisory Board. Council`President Parent felt there <br />would be no conflict of interest as he understood the matter. He referred to the amendment and <br />indicated that he felt it was a substantive change and the ordinance was being narrowed rather tha <br />expanded. He again repeated that he had talked to people in the neighborhood about the possible <br />location. He had mentioned to the residents that this matter was not on the agenda for the meetin <br />and he felt that, if the program was again placed in a residential area where there was objection, <br />the same type of problems would result. Councilman Nemeth felt there was a great deal of "buck - <br />passing" going on, and the Council was going to have to take a stand. He stated that the ordinanc <br />
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