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August 13,2001 <br /> Page 3 <br /> neighborhoods. Such activities make the city look like "we are out of control" with such bizarre <br /> activities being tolerated. <br /> Dennis Andres, Executive Director of the Morris Performing Arts Center, stated that he concurs <br /> with the remarks of Council Member King. In light of the traffic pattern by the Morris, ticket- <br /> scalping activities prevent individuals from getting to the box office since they impeded the public <br /> access. The perception is that the event is sold out when in fact it is not and then individuals buy <br /> tickets from other sources at premium prices. Mr. Andres noted for example that people think that <br /> the Seinfeld event is sold out, when in fact it is not. 125 seats are reserved for handicapped <br /> individuals and if they are not sold by the date of the event they are offered to the public with <br /> $ 76.00 being the highest price ticket in the house. Yet, PJ's is selling tickets in the first eight(8) <br /> rows from$ 175 to$300 each. Mr. Andres stated that the fines are not high enough. <br /> Bubba Cunningham of the University of Notre Dame then spoke in favor of the ordinance. Mr. <br /> Cunningham stated that the university is trying to be a good neighbor to Harter Heights. The <br /> university is concerned about the health & safety of the residents living around the campus and <br /> especially on Angela Boulevard. He sees such activities as real nuisances. <br /> Council Member Ujdak then called for individuals who may be opposed to the proposed <br /> ordinance. <br /> Mr. George Herendeen, a local attorney, spoke in opposition. He stated that the ordinance as a <br /> "wolf in sheep's clothing" since the entity who would benefit the most would be the University of <br /> Notre Dame. He referenced § 13.55.1 of the SBMC addressing "loitering" and said that that <br /> section was sufficient. He claimed that there are no other functions which the ordinance would <br /> address except Notre Dame football tickets. Mr. Herendeen suggested more study be done; that <br /> Mr. Dobbins of PJ's would be hurt by such an ordinance; that it would violate the commerce <br /> clause; and that it was only being proposed because of a special relationship to Notre Dame. He <br /> concluded his remarks by requesting that the Council table the measure. <br /> Mr. Jeff Kimmel, a local attorney, also spoke in opposition. He contended that there were <br /> sufficient regulations on the books currently. He cited a 1949 Indiana Supreme Court case which <br /> he contended authorizes ticket scalping. He voiced concern about taking the tickets when believed <br /> to be in violation and further noted that when you add all the extra fees which are required by the <br /> University that the actual cost for a ticket is $ 60 to $80 each. He suggested that zones be <br /> established where tickets could be hawked so that such activities <br /> could be removed from the <br /> residential areas. He concluded his remarks that he believed that the city would be inviting "racial <br /> profiling". <br /> As a part of the rebuttal, Council Member King asked the Council Attorney to briefly summarize <br /> his legal memorandum . She highlight a Connecticut decision affirmed by the United States <br /> Supreme Court and concluded that in her opinion the Council could move forward on sound legal <br /> grounds. (copy attached). <br /> Dr. Varner inquired about trespassing, obstruction of traffic concerns and obstruction of pedestrian <br /> concerns. <br /> Council President Pfeifer noted that inappropriate behavior.has resulted in disrespect for residents <br /> and their properties. This has resulted in compromising the quality of life, noting that civility has <br /> changed. Urinating on people's lawns and trashing their yards should always be unacceptable. <br />