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https://www.google.com/search?q=fibrex+versus+fiberglass&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS825US825&oq=fibrex+versus+fiberglass&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i10i22i30j0i22i30l2j0i390l4.4786j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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From: <br /> <br />Subject:Re: updated window spec <br />Date:Wednesday, December 8, 2021 12:42:25 PM <br />Thanks Adam, put me on the schedule. I know you guys have wanted to get a list of approved <br />windows and I strongly recommend that list gets approved and communicated. <br />From my understanding - the Andersen fibrex is essentially fiberglass and certainly not really <br />vinyl. Frustrated at the “guessing game” but realized the difficult position you are in. <br />Sounded like there is no “advisory council”. I would formally like to volunteer and would be <br />happy to find 4 more qualified members. Let me know. <br />Thanks, <br />Randy <br />Sent from my iPhone <br />On Dec 6, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Adam Toering <atoering@southbendin.gov> <br />wrote: <br /> <br />Randy, <br /> <br />Sorry to hear about the Marvin’s – lead times on all sorts of construction-related <br />product has been consistently bad throughout COVID. The Andersen 100’s (‘Fibrex’) <br />are a mix of wood and plastic. Andersen A-Series (looking at Double-Hung, specifically) <br />windows are a composite of Fiberglass and Fibrex. Marvin appears to have reorganized <br />their product lines into a number of sub-categories (“Ultimate”, “Elevate”, and <br />“Essential”), and touts their “High-Density Fiberglass” and “Pultruded Fiberglass” <br />products, but some are composite assemblies of multiple materials. Marvin extruded <br />fiberglass windows were approved by the Commission (most recently in the East <br />Wayne Street Local Historic District for window replacement on mid-twentieth century <br />structures with casement windows. Manufacturers spill considerable ink making their <br />case as to why their product is better than the competitor’s (googling “Fibrex vs <br />Fiberglass” shows how competitive the different manufacturers are), and yet they <br />cooperate on the “National Fenestration Rating Council” and the “American <br />Architectural Manufacturers Association” – both of which sound very official, but are <br />national trade/professional advocacy groups. <br /> <br />I don’t feel comfortable substituting the Andersen 100 as an administrative approval, <br />but the Commission may approve it. The probability of approval is high, if the garage is <br />perceived as a later addition, and this window installation is shown to be <br />discrete/separate/unrelated to a future/later project to replace the windows of the <br />main house. If you want on the agenda for the December 20th meeting (which will be <br />held virtually), let me know. <br />
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