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N 4 <br /> Mr. Gilot stated that they would still have facilities in South Bend and they would continue to <br /> use fiber which would grow over to Mishawaka. <br /> Mr. Joe Kazinski questioned how many need dark fiber and that they must go through a service <br /> provider. He questioned how many of the seven(7)have fiber. He questioned what Notre Dame <br /> is paying for the Metronet since it is his understanding that they have been on for 1 1/2 years. He <br /> inquired about access to other businesses and building owners. He stated that SBC is on the <br /> cutting edge. <br /> Mr. Gilot stated that they all have access; adding that the premise is redundancy, availability and <br /> affordability. Currently they feel limited due to pricing and that they are looking for competitive <br /> pricing. He noted that Notre Dame gave $325,000. He stated that there must be a public <br /> purpose for lateral builds. <br /> Mayor Luecke stated that SBC was invited to participate early and that they chose not to; and <br /> then MetroNet moved forward. <br /> Les Dant, Integration Solutions Engineer with SBC noted that he has been in the business for <br /> over 24 years. He believes that "the needs of the few will be paid for by the many". He <br /> questioned the map presented by Mr. Gilot, noting that large routers are very expensive costing <br /> at least $100,000 for high speeds. 10 megabits are at most stations, now and what is being <br /> proposed is 100 times faster. He stated that if this goes forward that there would be three (3) <br /> bills instead of two(2). <br /> Mr. Washington noted that information requested of them by the city was proprietary and <br /> confidential. He noted that when he was on the City Council much of the information provided <br /> was overwhelming and that in some cases he was not fully informed. He then provided handouts <br /> with Exhibit 1 being a copy of a resolution providing $110,000 to Project Future for 2002-2006; <br /> with four (4) of the Council Members who adopted that resolution not being on the Council <br /> today. Exhibit 2 was a listing of "Other Community Models". Exhibit 3 was a 2-page <br /> document entitled "Project Future Website" and he stated that the issue is the use of taxpayer <br /> dollars, noting that SBC is in thirteen (13) states. Exhibit 4 was a 2-page document with <br /> excerpts from the South Bend Tribune; and Exhibit 5 was a 2-page document entitled"Marietta <br /> Selling City-Owned Internet Company at $24 million Loss". Exhibit 6 was a 2-page document <br /> on House Bill 1518. He stated that he believes that HB 1518 will pass. <br /> Mr. Washington stated that he has made two (2) promises; namely that SBC would be as <br /> transparent as possible and that he would provide copies of all documents to the Mayor. He <br /> stated that SBC believes in competition however does not believe that it should have to compete <br /> against the government. He gave the analogy to the cell phone industry. <br /> Mayor Luecke stated that the city is not creating an internet company, but rather providing <br /> money for infrastructure which is beneficial to South Bend. <br /> A representative from TCU stated that data moves in many different formats and questioned why <br /> SBC is not consistent. <br /> Information and Technology Committee Meeting of January 26,2005 -page 3- <br />