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City of South Bend Disparity Study 2020 <br />When you tell companies that you're WBE, DBE, some men ... do get a <br />little defensive.... You have to kind of evaluate, is this gonna help me, <br />or is this gonna give us a stigma that we need help? Sometimes you <br />have to swallow your pride, get that project, get that purchase, and <br />then show them that you provide the value that they're looking for. <br />I really felt like [the City staff] didn't want me to have the job. It wasn't <br />because I wasn't the best at what I do, because I am. It was just <br />because they would say, "Well, you don't need that much money." <br />Like, "You just a little black girl. You won't need that much money." <br />Our problem is that people are trained to believe that Black folks, poor <br />people, or minorities can't deliver.... There's a whole lot of Black <br />people in here that wanna do something, and somebody needs to see <br />that. <br />These types of barriers led minorities and women to unanimous agreement that <br />M/WBE goals remain necessary to level the playing field and equalize opportuni- <br />ties. Aspirational or voluntary approaches were reported to be ineffective. <br />If [prime contractors or City staff] don't have to, they're not gonna <br />make the choice to funnel any work this way [to minority-owned <br />firms].... It's almost as if they're saying they don't want to try to have a <br />relationship with you. <br />We've had people who've hired us as their diverse partner say, 'Yeah, <br />well, I have to hire you because I need diversity.' <br />There are Black -owned construction companies, but one reason a lot of <br />them that I talked to went out of business, because they can't get <br />contracts with the City. So, they can't get any big contracts, then they <br />have to try to build their business with only small ones, and it's hard to <br />maintain a cash flow with the other issues that you deal with. <br />The engineers and the architects, we do exist. We're out there. We <br />understand they're looking for capacity, reliability, capability [but we <br />still don't get the work]. <br />Minority and women entrepreneurs felt excluded from the networks necessary for <br />success. <br />Minority entrepreneurs aren't in the networks <br />People will buy from people they like. <br />One thing I hear is, 'I don't feel I should have to do business with you <br />just because you're DBE, WBE, ACDBE.' It really is about service, and <br />price, and it boils down to relationships. <br />0 2020 Colette Holt & Associates, All Rights Reserved. 45 <br />