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Klusczinski:Right. And she would have to negotiate that, or if these things are bound <br />and you're not at liberty to do that then our only option at that point would be to deny the <br />whole thing, which does not even give them the ability to take off the siding. Those are <br />the options. <br />Sporleder: So we still don't know anything? <br />Klusczinski: We still don't know anything, but we'll allow the AWN make their decision <br />on whether or not they want to take the aluminum siding off and go further which they <br />would have to do in any case. <br />Peterson: As a pragmatic, can they took under the siding without a C of A? Do you need <br />to pull some off in order to assess... <br />Zeiger: There's no way to pull it without taking it'off. The way it's installed you've got <br />to start at the top and work your way down. <br />Klusczinski: To do a sample in an area? It wouldn't be a complete picture of what the <br />structure would look like anyway, so I'm not sure that we would be comfortable with that <br />because it would be a sample spot <br />Sporleder: And we need to see what's happening with the trim. <br />Zeiger: To expedite things, one of the recommendations to the staff was to give them, the <br />Commission could approve the removal of the siding and then refer it to Standards and <br />Maintenance for final action, with regard for paint versus siding so that we don't have to <br />make them wait till next month. To me, I'm comfortable with that, we can take a look at <br />it and then work out something with regard to the siding. <br />Klusczinski: You would have to agree to an amendment on this to allow far the removal <br />of the siding and then we would have, in an additional motion, charge the Standards and <br />Maintenance Committee with that action. <br />Zeiger: Between now and the next Commission meeting, so that keeps you moving <br />forward in that way. <br />Maradik: Ok. <br />Peterson: And they would have to meet to make that action. <br />Patrick: We could meet onsite. <br />Peterson: But if you're going to make a determination then that's an actual meeting. <br />Klusczinski: Yes it is. It would have to be publicly notified. <br />Patrick: We could do that. <br />Peterson: A committee can't take final action, so what you'll be doing is approving, with <br />her consent, approving the application for the removal, and then amend the applications <br />to reflect whatever the committee does. So your approval will be an approval of <br />something, so whatever the committee is charged with they'll have that leverage to do <br />one or the other, and you can't revoke that charge. If other people don't like what <br />Standards and Maintenance decide with regards to wood or siding or whatever they <br />decide, you will not be able to revoke that approval because this is, in a sense, your final <br />action. <br />Klusczinski: Can this Commission charge the Standards and Maintenance committee <br />with that power with our by-laws. <br />Zeiger: Mm-hmm. <br />SporIeder: We've done it before. <br />Peterson: It's just like with staff, you can give them guidance with 'here are your <br />boundaries', that's why I said that when you approve it, it's a final approval. And it's <br />within their boundaries to say what goes on underneath it, and you've listed those <br />options- the cement, the painting or the same siding, those are the three things and now <br />it's up to them to determine which of those based on upon evidence. They will have the <br />opportunity to come to that committee meeting, basically the same thing as here, giving <br />them guidance on what they can or cannot do. But your approval will be final tonight if <br />that's what you do. If not, you can just wait till the next meeting to make that second <br />determination. . <br />11 <br />