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419 <br />pane window is stronger than a single pane window and here <br />420 <br />scientific research is very clear about it, two windows insulate <br />421 <br />better than one. So that is why I am saying I see three options <br />422 <br />either I mean that we discuss that we take the existing windows we <br />423 <br />install a second glass one the first, existing window, but this is not <br />424 <br />possible because my windows are too big. And if you do that they <br />425 <br />loose the strength, it is not stable any more; that is what Wayne <br />426 <br />Doolittle told me and what I could find in the literature. <br />427 Tim Klusczinski: <br />You said that you also met with Steve Schoberg and Paul <br />428 <br />Hayden... <br />429 Georges Enderle: Yes. <br />430 Tim Klusczinski: And I don't have the ability to ask staff if they documented the <br />431 <br />context of the meeting. But I am interested in knowing if Steve <br />432 <br />Schoberg ... because he is a contractor, window restoration <br />433 <br />specialist as far as we know. <br />434 Georges Enderle: <br />Right. <br />435 Tim Klusczinski: <br />And then Paul Hayden is also technical support from Historic <br />436 <br />Landmark. <br />437 Georges Enderle: Yes. Right. <br />438 Tim Klusczinski: <br />439 <br />440 <br />441 <br />442 <br />443 <br />444 <br />445 <br />446 <br />447 <br />448 <br />449 <br />450 <br />451 <br />452 <br />453 <br />454 <br />455 <br />456 <br />Georges Enderle: <br />Did they offer any other suggestions to you? <br />Well after that meeting, I got three things: I got two articles, which <br />I mentioned in my letter, and the brochure of light windows <br />invisible windows which are storm windows inside and outside. <br />Now, my point, I think is clear. That there are three things: first is <br />what can we do with the existing storm windows? The second is <br />what about interior storm windows and third question is what <br />about exterior storm windows? These are three questions. And the <br />first question is maybe we can put the second glass on top of the <br />first one? But this is not possible, I mean with all good will, it is <br />not stable and the strength of the big windows, they are huge <br />windows, you know. You cannot with the same wood frame place <br />another thing ... and, and think... believe that it is insulated over the <br />next 20 years. This is technically not possible. So, a possibility is, <br />and I discussed it with Mr. Schoberg, and he said what he would <br />do, he would restore the window as it is but keep the glass as it is, <br />not to add any second glass. Well, then I have the same problem <br />next winter as well, that one glass does not protect enough against <br />the cold from outside. You assume that I can put interior storm <br />13 <br />