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Toppel: We have an ajjirmed demolition order from the Hearing Ojjicer. Before the City cam proceed with demolition, we need to come forward for a Certificate of Appropriateness, but we actually have an order to proceed with demolition of the property... Klusczinski: Due to safety issues. And do we have that as part of our record? That you have control of the property? Toppel: We actually don't own the property. This is a hearing order, and no, I apologize I have a copy here that I can certainly submit... Greene: When property is in, the condition such as it goes before the Code Enforcement bureau or division, there is an administrative hearing that is held and the property owner has the opportunity to come forward, they're cited for violation of City Code. They have the opportunity to come forward, present evidence, they're given the opportunity to repair the property. If they don't comply with the order that is entered by the Code Enforcement officer then a demolition order is entered, and Code Enforcement has the right by statute to proceed to demolish the property and then the property owner becomes responsible for the cost of demolition. Correct, Catherine? Toppel: That's absolutely correct. Under Indiana Unsafe Building Law 36-7-9, that is what gives the department of Code Enforcement the authority to proceed with demolition hearings. They do have a 10 day appeal period only. In fact, he never did, but in fact contacted us which is why we came in for a modification. There have actually been several demolition hearings- March 31, 2005, May 10, 2005, May 12, 2005 and May 19, 2005. Finally, in February, we took bids on February 27, 2007. We've been through numerous hearings on this with the hopes to entice the owner, as opposed to demolition. Demolition is always my last resort. Frankly, its going to cost the city lots of dollars and there's beautiful architecture on this home that's been totally ruined because its out in the elements. I can submit the findings to you; they have been recorded, and are in fact on the title of the property. Greene: The appeal period has run, correct? Toppel: Absolutely, two years ago. Patrick: I'd like to ask a question if I may. Has anyone been inside the structure? In a professional capacity? Hostetler: Wayne and Bob Yapp went through it. Patrick: Oh really? Hostetler: That's what the report says, the staff report. The Preservation Specialist toured the house and documented the damage in 2005. That's where you've got those interior shots from. Patrick: So that's my question, pursuant to that, in more recent times, have... Hostetler: It's not safe. Patrick: That was my question, it's not safe enough for anyone to salvage anything out of if indeed there were anything....? Hostetler: It's not worth dying over. Patrick: No, nothing's worth dying over. Toppel: These are our actual findings that we did allow for modification, and if the modification conditions were not met that it was to go forward... Hostetler: May we have that? Toppel: Yeah, and then I'll get with you to get a copy back Chase: I have a question just for information. So what is procedure for the city when a property is abandoned and it must be destroyed... does it go up for auction and then the proceeds go to the city to repay the expense? What's the process on that? Toppel: Actually the demolition, we let out for bids. We did have a low bid at $6891.00, which was the low bid. That will go as alien on that particular property. Eventually, it may go up for tax sale, for back taxes, but no the city doesn't acquire the property itself. Ujdak: Is the property owner or former property owner still paying taxes on it? M