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and structural features. Exceptions to this community covenant must be objectively justified and ordered by this commission when that prime directive is not feasible. Feasible implies cost- effective, affordable — rather than a preference for new options and conveniences. In that vein I believe it is the duty of the petitioner to prove that restoration is not a feasible alternative-while it is our duty to make an informed and objective decision. Remember that exceptions to standards are universally expected. From page 82 of the Chapin Park Guidebook. `In making its determination, the Historic Preservation Commission shall consider three factors:... first, the appropriateness of the proposed work to the preservation of the building and district, second, the detriment to the public welfare if the proposed work is permitted even though it is not deemed appropriate third, the potential hardship that the denial of the Certificate of Appropriateness . would cause the applicant. " For the past few years this Commission has been a partner with Historic Landmarks of Indiana and its former Community Preservation Specialist, Bob Yapp. From this relationship, we've endorsed a philosophy to educate the public in restoration techniques while promoting this initiative as a cost-effective strategy. Windows have been a key topic of discussion with a clear emphasis toward restoration. I am aligned with that approach and I pray that this commission also supports it. " Thank you. LP: Thank you. JS: May I respond to that? Because the standards as written are extremely inconsistent. And it depends who makes the interpretations. It says inappropriate new windows and door feature, such as. metal, vinyl, fiberglass, awnings, hoods or aluminum insulating glass combinations that require removal of original windows and doors shall not be installed. If this actually means what it appears to say, that insulated glass is never going to be allowed in restored windows if in fact that is what is meant by this bit of confusion because later on, it says if you decide that it's beyond repair, it can be used so there is a confusion in the standards which is not very clear. If you ... I'm kind of addressing this to you Shawn, if you'd sort that out, because the standards are not consistent, and I said that when we were reviewing these standards, and I underlined them and they never got fixed. And so I'm reiterating that because now we're bunched into this thing because it says IF new sashes are installed, original materials should be used. Sashes are not, if they're going to be new, they're not the original. It doesn't make any sense. MC: That's a paraphrase. JS: Well, if it's a paraphrase, it shouldn't be in here, it should be quoted exactly. The whole statement... LP: I think that we're at the point where we're parsing the words about the standards... Wayne? WD: I'd like to give a little education to the members of the Commission. Insulated glass .... glass is a terrible insulator. It is the distance between two pieces ofglass that will give you the insulated value. JS: Exactly. WD: The further apart those two pieces of glass are the better insulation factor comes into play. The other real difficulty that I have with the double paned window is that many of them lose their gas and when they do that, they leak. Then moisture comes in. You can talk to almost anybody that's had replacement windows, and that's something that's happened to many, many people. You then have to replace the entire piece of glass. JS: That's right. WD: You've got to replace it. So, that's uh, a little window stuff. CH: I have to concur with Wayne on this because I was at the Center for History, I'm on their finance committee, and they had to completely replace all of those windows in the Carriage House restoration that were not, that were probably put in, brand new, insulated glass, not more than IS years, maybe not even 12 years ago. At a cost of $10,000, they had to re-replace them. New windows. LP: I know what you're talking about; we replaced all the windows in our house, my mom and dad's house, the new people. We replaced them again; they didn't last even 10 years. Did you have a motion that you wish to make about this because it seems that we still have questions.