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danger before we go outside picking on buildings that aren't even under our control unless the
<br />goal is to landmark. Just a thought. It's a great start though and the newsletter was awesome, it
<br />was good to get that out it looked good and great start.
<br />Martha Choitz: (on logos) We used one for Southhold that was particularly effective was one that
<br />represented tiny little buildings here in town, and houses, that and artist can render. We had
<br />every kind of building that was in town, or landmarked at that point had a representation, but it
<br />was a very effective thing, you had to look closely to decide that's a hotel, and that's a building
<br />and that's a house... but lots of people said, how did you get that done, who did that, how did it
<br />happen? I probably have a copy of it, but all of our records... all of our copies and things... but
<br />all of our big stuff is over with Pat Collins at the museum in storage. You can get it out with a
<br />good reason. We had all different kinds of things for various things.
<br />Lynn Patrick: Do you think that you could find that in the next week?
<br />Martha Choitz: I don't know, I haven't thought about it in a number of years. These things could
<br />be ... I mean, we could make new ones.
<br />Amy Herdman: These logos that you're seeing represent what we found over and over
<br />again ...from clicking around online to similar organizations whether other commissions, history
<br />museums or whatever. So, what you have here are the most common themes that we saw.
<br />Martha Choitz: They're very good... but what Todd said is true too, people really don't know that
<br />we have... what landmarks that we have.
<br />Todd Zeiger: Do you have any dollars that you might hire some graphic assistance?
<br />Catherine Hostetler: We wanted to do it in house.
<br />Todd Zeiger: Just to brainstorm some graphic ideas with you.
<br />Catherine Hostetler: Mr. Sedlack was supposed to be working on this, but he's not done
<br />anything. He teaches at ND, graphic arts and did the Chapin Park logos.
<br />Mary Jane Chase: I don't know if you want to do this or not, or maybe to draw more attention,
<br />would be to have a contest to have people submit, if you had one picture that represented South
<br />Bend, or its history, what would you do.
<br />Amy Herdman: We thought of something similar, and thank you for that suggestion, but when we
<br />thought about it, more often we came up with things that we wanted avoid .... not to feature a
<br />specific house as Todd pointed our or a specific style, we didn't want to tie to any Studebaker
<br />reference per se, because that doesn't represent South Bend as a whole or the HPC as a whole,
<br />so we really are treading delicately.
<br />Lynn Patrick: You've given us a lot to think about, but I think that we should move on...
<br />Joann Sporleder: (late arrival) I have a question I'd like to address to Counsel though with the
<br />potential of doing cards or representations of historic structures... whether we need the
<br />permission of the owners before we proceed with anything? We've run into that... we did maps
<br />and did drawings and we needed to get permission from every home owner ahead of hand to
<br />allow us to do thatfor a public distribution context. Maybe these things don't apply anymore, but
<br />I'm just raising the issue.
<br />Martha Choitz: That's absolutely necessary. We found that out. I mean, we never made that
<br />mistake at Southhold, but we had to be told we should. One artist on calendars, beautiful things,
<br />we'd done them for years ... but someone took it, and cut the thing out, and put it somewhere else.
<br />And it was discovered that this guys picture had gone into some other kind of form. It was
<br />nothing that we did, but this picture was now in some other form...and we got a letter, a very
<br />strict letter from an attorney that told us that we weren't going to do that. And I simply wrote
<br />back and said I know we're not going to do that, we didn't even know that had been done, we
<br />didn't do it, someone else did it. You've got to be very clear or something will come up later.
<br />Now, if you make them up that's fine. If you have an artist that will draw imaginary buildings,
<br />why, you're in good shape. You just pay him or her.
<br />Lynn Patrick: Another good point, and something to consider as this project unfolds. I'd like to
<br />move on, if we're done with this, because this sounds like its still in its naecency. I'd like to move
<br />onto the legal...
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