Ben and Carrie Modlin vs. Historic Preservation Commission (COA#2019-1007A)

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Commissioner Hertel explained her opposition to PVC and vinyl siding and expressed that it is a responsibility to uphold the historic integrity of these homes,especially ones like this one,which were here long before much of anything else in the area. Commissioner Stalheim inquired as to what the plan was as to the decorative elements on the roof and over the windows. Mr.Modlin stated that he is in the process of repairing those,and that some have gone missing,and he's going to have to re-mill them as close as possible,with marine grade plywood,CNC'd out. Commissioner Stalheim asked if all would be replaced. Ms.Modlin stated that that would depend on the condition of the remaining pieces and indicated in the imagery on the projector that some of the pieces are hanging dangerously off the house. Mr.Modlin stated that he thought the new material looks good from the street. Commissioner Hertel expressed that she believes you can tell the difference between PVC,vinyl,and wood. She further stated that she agreed with Dr.Downs-Krostenko that it seems impossible that all the siding is bad,and that the replacement material should have the proper look. That there is evidence of long-term neglect. That she is hesitant to make a quick judgement. That she would like to see a better estimate as to the current siding condition. That replacing some of the material would be cheaper than replacing all of the material. Commissioner Brazinsky asked how long of a continuance would be needed to get an estimate. Administrator Feasel stated that it would be on the applicant to talk with restoration experts to determine the cost and time of that kind of project. That staff's role at this point would be negligible,as we have already determined the siding to be deteriorated beyond repair. Commissioner Brazinsky reiterated that the siding looked identical to what she had in Wisconsin,that had insects and bees nests. Commissioner Brazinsky stated that she was between outright denial and continuing for more information. Commissioner Hertel explained that the Commission could deny the application as it currently exists,which would require the applicant to reapply for the exterior changes again. The Commission could offer a continuance where you could get additional information that the Commission is requesting and come back at the next meeting with that information (without paying additional application fees). Commissioner Hertel asked the applicant what they would like to do. Mr.Modlin asked if they could discuss the options. Commissioner Hertel stated that the meeting could not be postponed. Mr.Modlin asked what they should do in the interim regarding the health concerns related to the condition of the house. Commissioner Hertel stated that they should get with their contractor immediately,but that these conditions don't appear to be new problems. As homeowners they should be combatting any mold or other biological concerns with the appropriate bleach mixture. Mr.Modlin stated that they've tried and that they are this point,and that they believe the house exterior is beyond repair. When they were sitting in the basement when the tornado came through and they saw bat feces raining down from the wall because the rain was coming in,it was actionable. The only way that was feasible was to take the old off and put the new on. Commissioner Hertel reiterated that they are still at the same point as five minutes ago:the Commission can deny the application,or give a continuance to find additional information. Mr.Modlin Sr.interjected that you have to have the money to be able to do the work. Mr.Modlin asked clarified that the options are continuation or denial. Commissioner Hertel explained that the Commission's feelings are apparent,and that the Commission wants to empower you to make the house better. Ms.Modlin asked what the time frame of the continuation would be. Legal Counsel Kennedy explained that the next meeting would within the time frame of the current application. Commissioner Stalheim expressed concerns regarding the weather. Administrator Feasel expressed that any additional information would need to be received by the COA deadline date. Mr.Modlin asked what the status of the Red Tag from the Building Department would be. Administrator Feasel explained that Staff would contact the Building Department to inform them that the project was still under review and more information would be available in late November. Commissioner Ponder made a motion to continue COA#2019-1007A and request the applicant get additional information about restoration of the exterior siding(with information about the amount of salvageable material),with the date of November 12`x'for more information. Seconded by Commissioner Brazinsky. Four in favor,none opposed. Vote: 4—0. Motion to continue COA#2019-1007A is passed. 3. 2119 Portage Avenue #2019-1011A #7020-82 Local Landmark