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CITY OF SOUTH BEND OFFICE OF THE CLERK take care of vacant properties that DCI owned. They're paying for that directly out of their accounts. We had previously put it in as a revenue item. But it never realized, so we wanted to get it out of there. Councilmember Scott stated, Okay. The other question, I talked a little bit about DTSB and West Side Main Streets, what do you mean by leaked$157,000, $400,000 annually? Mr. Perri replied, As we worked on combining Venues Parks & Arts over the past few years, we took on the management of DTSB,West Side Main Streets,and some of those things.Historically, those contracts had gone through the Redevelopment Commission and were paid for by DCI. For the most part that has remained true but various pieces and parts came over and got burdened on Fund#201.We're correcting that in this year's budget to make sure that the Redevelopment funding is taking care of those programs. So, you won't see those show up in our budget. You'll see those show up elsewhere. Councilmember Scott stated, Okay. That is a concern of mine because I didn't know. I've been on DTSB forever and it was always through DCI that the money was allocated from the City through DCI to there. I understand the parks, the red shirt part a little bit,but to me it's expanding way too much into parks. I look at DTSB as the business side first(1st)and then the funds side second(2n1), you know? So that tie back to DCI, I think, is really important. All right. Thank you. When will that happen? Mr. Perri answered, That will be in the 2020 budget. Committee Chair White stated, I do have some questions. Mr. Perri, as you look at some of the recreational centers, there are neighborhoods that are not as wealthy as others and are somewhat challenged. How do you view those neighborhood centers in regard to looking at them to generate revenues that might not be there? But also, as I look at the Charles Black Center from an operational perspective, that Center has been expanded but the personnel to maintain the Center inside and outside is not there. I notice that you have mentioned that you're proposing a part-time person for Howard Park. I know that there are a lot of questions but I want you to talk a little bit about the philosophy that you may have in regards to these centers that are not really the same. Mr. Perri stated, Absolutely. Our community centers, we really look at those as service first (1St) I think I've talked to the Council about our cost recovery pyramid before. This idea is that things like golf or concessions are supposed to make revenue and bring money back into the community. Things like mentoring programs or youth athletic leagues that we sponsor like the VPA Youth Basketball or otherwise, sometimes we'll have small participation fees but the cost to participate is significantly less than we'll ever be able to recover because we want to ensure participation remains high. Frankly,money shouldn't be a barrier to entry for any of our programs. The bulk of our programs at the centers are free. Very, very few programs cost money to participate. If you look at our recreation budget and you start to divide it out, more than fifty percent (50%) of our programing budget goes to the combination of Martin Luther King Center and the Charles Black Community Center. So that's a point of pride for us and one(1)that we don't want to throttle back on. When it comes to caring for the facilities and otherwise, we're trying to always optimize that as best as possible. My office doesn't get cleaned but once a week. We all take out our own trash and otherwise. Our programing staff talked about our mission statement and as they went through EXCELLENCE ACCOUNTABILITY INNOVATION I INCLUSION EMPOWERMENT 455 County-City Building 227W Jefferson Bvld South Bend,Indiana46601 p 574.235.9221 f 574.235.9173 TTD574.235.5567 www.southbendin.gov 14