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6. NEWIBUSINESS (Cont'd <br />part to ask us before you did the work." Commission Legal <br />Counsel, Mr. Kevin J. Butler, arrived in the meeting in <br />the portion of the above conversation and President Nimtz <br />briefed Legal Counsel, and Mr. Nimtz stated that he asked <br />Mr. Butler, privately, -a question, and "I will ask him <br />publicly so each Commissioner will understand what the legal <br />status is on this thing. Mr. Butler, we were discussing a <br />request for a change order for $236.00 for some work that <br />was done by Madison Builders here, without prior Commission <br />approval, and Mr. Wiggins has raised the question that if we <br />are audited by HUD and this is run across and they disallow <br />this payment, who's responsible for the $236.00 ?" <br />Mr. Butler advised, "Audited by HUD, or by the State Board of <br />Accounts - -in either event - -if it's determined that a claim was <br />paid, which could not have been paid properly under the contract <br />documents -- proper procedures - -the individuals who sign that <br />claim form are responsible. Of course, all of you are bonded <br />and the Bonding Company would, of course, have to make good on <br />that, and then the Bonding Company has an action against the <br />claim." President Nimtz [also an attorney] added, "That's <br />right." Commissioner Wiggins said, "I'm sorry. You just <br />bought the roof, but I am not going to." <br />Mr. Madison said, "I s till can't understand--I don't see where <br />you're sticking your neck out. I don't know what the legal <br />ramifications are." Commissioner Wiggins responded, "You just <br />heard it from our attorney." <br />President Nimtz added, "I'm sorry, Mr. Madison. There is a call <br />for the question here - -the situation is that any Commissioner <br />who signs this claim, and if it is disallowed in the audit- - <br />either by the State Board of Accounts or by HUD - -the Commissioners <br />who sign the claim are responsible for that amount of money. The <br />question has-been called for, and the motion is that this claim <br />for $236.00 be disallowed." The motion was made by Mr. Wiggins, <br />seconded by Mr. Chenney. Four (4) "ayes" were cast in favor <br />of the rejection of the change order, with Mr. Donaldson casting <br />a "naye" vote. <br />The motion was carried by four Commissioners to reject Change Order <br />No. 2 to Rehabilitation Contract No. 5, with Madison Builders,. Inc., <br />for specification change request at 610 East Ohio Street, for an <br />increase in contract amount of $236.00. <br />Mr. Madison asked, "Can I question the decision in that? Is it <br />okay if I re -open the matter, or leave the matter open for my <br />attorney to get involved in it ?" President Nimtz said, "You have <br />a right to consult your attorney and have him consult Mr. Butler. <br />Surely." Mr. Butler said this can be raised at a later time. "In <br />other words, the matter can be brought up again." <br />- 12 - <br />