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SOUTHIBEND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION <br />SPECIAL MEETING: July 10, 1975 <br />Paae 15. <br />to the people, and if you put offices there that close at night, <br />you're not; but if you can have something else along with it, <br />then it's a good land use, and I still think it makes sense to <br />change the plan and have an open-ended land use on it and throw <br />out the things you don't want and include the things you do." <br />Mr. Allen Schrager said, "The only thing I'would like to say is <br />that Lloyd Taylor and his group should be congratulated for sub- <br />mitting a bid. It is easy to sit back and take pot shots and <br />say, well we should do this and well we should do that, but over <br />the last couple of years, no one has come forth with a bid, except <br />a lot of promises that never materialized. Now, granted, this <br />may not be the ideal plan, but an old cliche, 'a bird in the <br />hand is worth two in the bush!' Now, the only thing that bothers <br />me, Lloyd, is this. I think one of the main problems downtown <br />in office space is the parking, because people don't like to pay <br />$20 a crack, or $15, or $10, or what have you, when you can go <br />out to surrounding office buildings. I know you people just lost <br />Xerox to Industrial Park, where they want 20 to 30 parking spaces. <br />Unfortunately, in your plan, you are going to have these one and <br />two story office buildings with parking included, and this is <br />going to make it more difficult to develop new office buildings <br />downtown, because if people have a choice of getting their own <br />buildings with free parking or, coming downtown in a high -rise <br />and having to pay for their parking, they will take the free <br />parking, but as I said, you can't have your cake and eat it too, <br />so half a loaf is better than none." <br />Mr. Taylor said he thought the obvious thing here is, "Allen, you <br />are right in what you say, except you know and I know that we have <br />been losing a lot of offices to the downtown area because of that, <br />as you well know. It's not a question of a choice between forcing <br />them to go into a high -rise office building because they don't <br />have any other choice; the other choice is to go out to Industrial <br />Park or to Colfax Avenue, so what we are doing is trying to retain <br />some of these major complexes here in the downtown area. Also, I <br />think you lose sight of the fact that the only - -I would say- -the <br />only difference between the proposal of International Constructors <br />and our proposal is in the hotel, that's all - -or, they call it <br />the motor lodge. That is the only difference! We propose a luxury <br />restaurant with all of the facilities that they proposed. It's <br />possible, if Hoffman is interested without the motel, it could be <br />a Hoffman, I don't know. There area lot of nice restaurants in <br />the country. I think that's really the only 'basic difference. You <br />have the hotels in the downtown area that are not doing too well in <br />their occupancy. Now, regardless of what the name is on that hotel- - <br />whether it is Royal Inns, Pick, or Sheraton, or what - -I don't know <br />one of them - -even out on North Michigan the motels are not doing <br />well in occupancy. Plow, whether or not a market study- -which would be <br />an absolute requirement in land'use change to permit a hotel- -would <br />be a market study which would say whether one is feasible- -not one <br />which would be feasible five years from now; but one that is feasible <br />today." <br />