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6. OLDIBUSINESS (Cont'd 'he Chair requested action from the Commissioners on the subject, and :ommissioner Donaldson said he was kind of confused on all this, and are you talking about the question on whether we want a hydraulic lift tage or a fixed stage ?" President Nimtz said there are various ques- tions involved: 1) Shall there be a stage, or shall there not be a stage? 2) If there is a stage, shall it be a permanent -type of stage, or shall it be a hydraulic stage? 3) Do we proceed with one of the proposed three plans [Alternates A, B, D] that we had from the architects and the consultants concerning the Jefferson to Washington Street, without any stage? 4) Commissioner Wiggins has made another suggestion here now that we proceed with the original plan from Jefferson to Washington Street, without any stage in that block, and that the stage be relocated near thE: Baer's Furniture Store area. 'he Chair said one of the above has to be the answer. The new sugges- tion added is by Commissioner Wiggins here this morning that we go ihead with the original plan, between Jefferson and Washington Street, end if the cost factor is about thE: same, that the stage be relocated :o another block. r. Soltesz's response, "Mr. Chairman, the original idea that we had as strictly on the idea to have a 30 x 40 hydraulically - operated stage- - hat was the original idea; to that was added another area, to contain full performance orchestra - -a 30 x 60. Am I right? ' Mr. Wilcox aid that was correct. [11 -1 -74 Commission meeting]., Mr. Soltesz ontinued, "Now, is there any opinion here that we don't need a stage? haven't heard it yet'. I haven't heard anybody say that we don't need a tage. Needless to say, the 30 x 30 stage, as we talked about it with he people that were the designers from Pittsburgh and they came down nd suggested other areas also for a stage to contain bigger crowds of eople, but the items here was something for the immediate downtown area hat would not be in contest with the Morris Civic Auditorium or with he Civic Center. That was not the idea it was projected for. So the 0 x 30 stage really was realisti;cal.ly, something that would have been easible, that we wouldn't have had to tear up all of the street and ake up all the big excavations. Those that made the recommendation f the 30 x 60 stage have not been here in any of the meetings, or been n any of the discussions for the fight for it, so in the art of com- romise, I hope that you, gentlemen, will take a view of the size of he stage - -No. 1; it's geographic location and its purpose - -No. 2." ommissioner Wiggins asked Mr. Soltesz, "What is your feeling about the uggestion that I made, and the reasons that I made it? Mr. Soltesz nswered, "I don't disagree. The only thing, Don, as I' stated, it was n idea that was projected out of the Committee assigned to that particu- ar end. Now where the stage is, is something else, but the need for a - 12 -