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6. OLP BUSINESS (Cont'd) <br />Mr. Kagel interrupted, "Gentlemen, the City of South Bend, through this <br />Body, has asked for the citizens to be heard, as to whether there should, <br />or should not be a stage. It's rather obvious that the citizens have asked <br />that there be a stage. It's a matter of what kind of stage. It was rather <br />ironic, and I ask this question: That it appeared - -or at least there was <br />a consensus by the citizens- -that there be a hydraulic -type of a stage. <br />Now, you can go to any street corner in the City of South Bend and find <br />the bases of the stage that we are talking about. To me - -I think it is <br />rather difficult - -I don't comprehend why that type of stage could pose <br />such a great problem to this community that that dream couldn't be ful- <br />filled." I ask this question, "Why is it that a hydraulic stage is so <br />difficult, if it's in operation in every street corner in the community <br />in a filling station ?" <br />'resident Nimtz requested Mr. Oesterling to address himself to that ques- <br />,ion. Mr. Oesterling advised: "I certainly will not advocate that I am <br />n exact expert in the hydraulics of the stage, but as we studied this, <br />,e went to two well` -known firms: the Dover Company of Chicago, and the <br />oyce Company out of Dayton, who specialize in this type of construction <br />nd erection, and our cost estimates came basically from them. The pro - <br />lems associated with the hydraulics, with this particular problem, as <br />elated to a hydraulic lift of a filling station - =which I think was made <br />eference to - -is a little different than what we are proposing here, in <br />hat the elements of safety have to be taken into account. We have a much <br />arger element here than what is in a filling station. Skirts if they <br />re operated independently - -we have two stage lifts -- skirts will have to <br />e provided for; on size they will have to be provided for maintenance - <br />ree,dirt intrusion, ice and things of that nature. We've got utilities <br />nvolved which will include additional cost here; the construction of a <br />it which you do not ordinarily have with a filling station operation <br />hat will have to be constructed here. It's not something that can't be <br />one; we're not saying that at all,-but the cost has got to be recognized. <br />he Chair asked what the depth of the pit that would have to be constructed <br />e, and Mr. Oesterling said approximately four (4) feet. The Chair thE:n <br />sked Mr. Farrand what that would do in relation to the various utilities <br />hat are along Michigan Street - -the old Michigan Street - -Mr. Farrand replied <br />e sees a real significant cost of relocating those utilities because every <br />ne of the utilities extends right up through that block- -the power, tele- <br />hones-- everything is there. <br />1rs. Allen asked if Mr. Oesterling hadn't said in the previous meeting's <br />liscussion that if the stage were placed along the east sidewalk that <br />:his would save about $6.5,000 in relocating all those utilities? Mr. Oester- <br />ing said that the major utility that would be involved is I &M - -it's true- - <br />iutting the stage, the long part - -60 ft. length part -- parallel with the <br />:enter line of the street is a solution, but they don't feel it is a viable <br />olution. Mrs. Allen again said that she had thought he said, 'right along <br />:he east sidewalk, just below those.' Mr. Oesterling replied, "Right, <br />re did discuss that in our meeting with you and that could be developed <br />n that way, but it doesn't lend itself to the viewing total like it would <br />f it was transversely with the center line." <br />- 10 - <br />