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5. OLD BUSINESS (Cont'd <br />n reference to the trash problem in Pool "B Commissioner Wiggins said, <br />As it is now, you have a problem and are removing the trash as much as <br />hree times a day. --the debris that accumulates at the intake screen, which <br />assume to be a small area - -no more than a foot square at the most. In- <br />tead of that now, we are going to have to remove the trash three times a <br />ay from the whole blooming thing. Instead of trash in a little pile, <br />e will have it in a great b`ig pile. I'am afraid we are expanding our <br />roblem rather than decreasing it. I think the basic' idea of the screen <br />hat Ed had a sample of was more from a standpoint of preventing °someone <br />f. catching a heel in there, unless you can sweep off any debris that <br />ight get on top of it. Now, if you are going to have a screen under - <br />eath, there is no sweeping off; you are going to have to remove the <br />rates in order to get the debris off the screen." <br />resident Nimtz requested Mr. Bill Slabaugh have a report by the next <br />ommission meeting, his recommendation. <br />r. Kagel said, "My comments are not directed to the Clyde E. Williams <br />Associates or to Mr. Oesterling. My comments are 'directed, unfortunately, <br />o the architect firm who designed this Plaza. We have had, on record, as <br />r. Chenney knows, as Mr. Wiggins knows, of several occupational and safety <br />ealth acts. Now, the architect, in the first place, should not have come <br />p with that design to conform with the OSHA requirements, so as I said my <br />omments are directed to the architect that is not here." President Nimtz <br />greed, "That's true, John, but we got it; we're with it. Further, Mr. <br />agel continued, "You got it; you inherited it. That thing should not have <br />een designed. They were aware--the architect firms are aware of the <br />ederal and thE: State OSHA requirements, and I think this is the thing <br />hich is going to have to be cranked into the picture. The picture is beau - <br />iful; but it says in the book, and I think with just a visit with just one <br />f the Federal OSHA inspectors, they will come up with the answer. The <br />irst one who is going to be sued is the: City of South Bend and the <br />edevelopment Commission." <br />resident Nimtz added, "Mr. Kagel, I was about to make the comment, and I pre - <br />ume Mr. Butler will agree with me-- $9,000 is a lot of money, but when you <br />et into a lawsuit, you might be glad to get rid of it for $9,000. <br />rs. Allen added, "In spite of the aesthetics, there are a lot of things- - <br />ncluding the trash- -why couldn't they just cut that wire mesh and lay <br />t over the top right to the sides, set the flower pots there, and you have <br />ept the people away. You've held the trash up on top, where you can get <br />t it. It's very simple, and I don't think it will destroy the picture of <br />hose fountains one bit. Commissioner Chenney agreed with her that she <br />s right. President Nimtz' comment, "Well, Janet,'it depends on whether <br />t curdles, or the youngsters monkey with.it; there are just a lot of un- <br />nowns as to when you begin doing something like that that isn't permanently <br />nchored." Mrs. Allen said it naturally would have to be wired or anchored <br />o the grille that is already there. <br />r. Oesterling said they also studied the raised curb idea, but again if <br />hey would put a curb there, it would alert them, but `then ' they could stumble <br />ver the curb and fall into it, so again you would have to do something to <br />he grating, and again they do not believe it would "be in conformity with <br />he design. <br />- 19 - <br />