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								       		REGULAR MEETING       							September 10, 2018
<br />   		Councilmember Davis asked, So there are no more of those that are coming before us?
<br />   		Mr. Mueller stated, There could be, there could be project delays that cause it as well.
<br />   		President Scott stated, We did talk about this in committee, and one (1) note that I brought up is
<br />   		that since I've been on Council the last seven (7) years, we've had four (4) directors of DCI.  I
<br />   		think they're being proactive to try to understand and correct the policy. You can set a policy, and
<br />   		there will be a basic standard that you're concerned with,and I agree with that. Then,you're going
<br />   		to have to look at it on a case by case basis.  Some projects go through on time, everything is by
<br />   		the book and its fine.  As new cases come up, they're going to be able to expand to the proper
<br />   		policy.
<br />   		Councilmember Ferlic stated, I agree with Councilmember Davis that any sort of policy changes
<br />   		in the next month or two (2), DCI could come before Council and explain the new policy moving
<br />   		forward, I think that would be beneficial.
<br />   		Council President Scott explained,If they are on the books and they've been voted on by this body,
<br />   		by state statute they have to come back to us and we would have to vote on those changes like we
<br />   		are going to do tonight.
<br />    		Councilmember Davis stated,You want everything to be caught up,but then you bring out another
<br />   		good point, that how do you establish a case by case basis when we have all eleven(11)here, and
<br />   		we don't have the time to actually go through each of the eleven (11) to evaluate each situation?
<br />   		That's where my concern is.  I'm at peace.
<br />    		Councilmember Broden asked, One (1) or two (2) projects actually had no investment per your
<br />    		chart and per what was submitted. Could you clarify what the actual investment going forward is,
<br />    		if we were going to be granting that particular extention?
<br />    		Council President Scott interjected,And these resolutions were brought forth by DCI. Each of the
<br />    		stakeholders are here for support data for DCI's resolution. If anyone has any questions for them,
<br />    		we can bring them up.  This is different than usual because they are not the actual petitioners in
<br />    		this case.
<br />    		Mr. Mueller stated, Starting with the Liberty Tower, the original investment across all four (4)
<br />    		pieces was roughly $30 million.  They've already invested $38.5 million for the hotel and garage
<br />    		components. They're estimating an additional $15  million.   They've already matched their
<br />    		commitment toward investment.
<br />    		Councilmember Broden asked,For Imagineering Enterprises, I think it would be instructive for us
<br />    		as Council as we are looking to extend this, with regard to that particular project,to note that they
<br />    		didn't hit all of the marks.  Going forward, what is going to be the specific level of investment?
<br />    		Perhaps the individuals could address that better.
<br />    		Mr. Mueller stated, For Imagineering, It's not changing the terms of the abatement at all, it's just
<br />    		changing the designating period.
<br />    		Councilmember Broden asked, With regard to precedent issues, and a full understanding of
<br />    		additional petitioners coming before us,what is your sense? This is eleven(11),and we've already
<br />    		done four(4) or five(5)previously. What are we looking at before the end of theme or in 2019?
<br />    		Mr. Mueller stated, This takes care of those from 2015 and 2016, we've tried to figure out a way
<br />    		forward where we don't have these moving forward.  There is a time between 2017 and 2018.
<br />    		We've reached out to folks,but people are always optimistic that they won't need to make a change
<br />    		before their deadline is here, so there are probably a few more that may come.  There are actually
<br />    		a few delays that the projects might encounter.  You look at the results of all of these abatements
<br />    		and the growth of downtown investment, these projects wouldn't happen without the incentives.
<br />    		Booms and busts have come and gone and South Bend hasn't seen that level of investment. From
<br />    		the Administration's perspective, as long as they're hitting their investment targets and their other
<br />    		substantial commitments, we'll do that every day of the week because it's a great thing for the
<br />    		City. Tax abatements are only on the increase of revenue,so it should more appropriately be called
<br />    		tax phase ins, because you're not losing any revenue.  These projects wouldn't have happened,
<br />    		and we wouldn't be abating anything because nothing would have been generated.  For these
<br />    		projects, we're losing zero (0) tax dollars, but adding over time.   Council, over time, has
<br />    		demonstrated that they believe in this, too, and that these are wins for our community.
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