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Councilmember Kelly asked, What about in particular? Did they get into details like the grocery <br />store, and those kinds of things? <br />Ms. Smith responded, They do not. It just called for a Mixed -Use building. It showed a two (2) <br />or three (3) story building wrapped around a parking garage, with the buildings kind of being on <br />LaSalle then wrapping around Sycamore, and then a public parking garage in the center. <br />Councilmember Kelly asked, Okay, but with regard to the East Bank Plan in general, it never <br />talked about the grocery store or... ? <br />Ms. Smith responded that a grocery store has been a goal for downtown in general. <br />Mr. Magliozzi stated, Each block was identified with specific uses in the East Bank. Those are a <br />guide. He stated, The East Bank Plan only mentions height in one (1) area, for one (1) particular <br />aspect of it, but when you look at the language, the charrettes, the samples of what people were <br />actually building on the tables and all of the illustrations, they are essentially three (3), four (4), <br />maybe five (5) story buildings at the most. <br />Councilmember Kelly stated, And obviously important to note that those are wish lists, because <br />it comes down to what developers are willing and able to do. <br />Mr. Magliozzi responded that it is very difficult to put specifics on any kind of plan. <br />Councilmember Scott interrupted the proceedings briefly to inform the Council that food had <br />been brought for the Council to eat before the Common Council meeting later in the evening. <br />Committeemember Jo Broden stated, Planning is more than academic. It's more than wish lists. <br />It drives, it gives predictability, it gives developers a template; a vision, in this case, to <br />distinguish itself from the West Bank of our Central Business District. As a Fourth District <br />Councilperson, I can speak to the benefits of strong and good planning. Committeemember <br />Broden continued to make the case for planners, and for plans in general, crediting planners with <br />successfully drawing developers into the city. She stated, Smart developers rely on planning. <br />Smart investors rely on planning. She stated that the East Bank Plan has been looked at by the <br />South Bend Common Council possibly over eight (8) times since its adoption. Each of those <br />times, the Council had a chance to reevaluate the plan and "come down on one side or the other, <br />to grant the variance or not." She stated, There are plans in place. There are routes to get to <br />height variances, and you can see them in this neighborhood specifically. She clarified that she <br />could not say enough how much she felt that this project should happen. She stated, It is an <br />awesome project, in terms of concept. I'm not second - guessing the smart folks of the Regional <br />Cities Plan or the money that is opening up for this project, but I am going to rely on some of the <br />smart planning that goes behind that. We want to attract residences to downtown. One - hundred <br />percent (100 %) agreement across that. There are two (2) really shiny cool things with this — <br />they're long on South Bend's wish list: a drug store, and a grocery store. We can make this <br />happen, but the PUD that this is riding on is not the way to go if we want smart development. I <br />want a win for the 4th District, but even moreso I want a win for the City, and I want to do it in a <br />9 <br />