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Mr. Agostino stated a simple way to think about that is to say you have three (3) police <br />departments operating who will want probably two (2) dispatchers each which is a bare <br />minimum. There's six (6) dispatchers. The fire departments are not asking for quite as many but <br />they in total need four (4) or five (5). That puts you at ten (10). Then you have the call takers to <br />take the calls before they get assigned to wherever they are going. Then we are at a minimum of <br />fourteen (14) or fifteen (15) people per shift. If you build from the bottom up like that, it is <br />simple math and you are over the number they originally allocated. It is hard to tell a person in <br />charge of a police of fire department that they are not going to get the dispatchers they need to do <br />their jobs. There are some nights where the City needs ten (10) or twelve (12) at one (1) time. <br />Vice Committee Chair White stated she knows they were mandated by the State to have two (2) <br />centers and South Bend could be the backup. She stated this originally was supposed to increase <br />efficiency and create better service, but we don't know if that has happened yet. She asked as of <br />now, what have we gained. That is important for us as individuals who must take action on the <br />budget, but also we interact with our constituents. <br />Mr. Croymans responded it is no secret that the State made a mandate without giving you any <br />funding mechanisms. The things that you do benefit from with the combined center is the use of <br />the equipment. For example, if you had to buy a 911 telephone recorder it is about a quarter of a <br />million dollars. If you had South Bend, the Sheriff, Mishawaka, and Clay all buying (1) that is a <br />million dollars where the total could have just been $250,000. The money that is truly saved is <br />going to be on the technology side. The human element is really something that you can't get <br />savings from. <br />County Council President Rafael Morton stated he never stopped and looked at it like that. <br />Because of the mandate and that we had to update the equipment, he will reluctantly agree that <br />there is cost savings in that arena. <br />Mr. Agostino stated you do also have some efficiencies in terms of the administrative side <br />regarding personnel. You are not going to somehow answer more calls with less people, you <br />can't do it. <br />Council President Scott stated your people are always going to be the most expensive thing in the <br />operation. <br />Vice Committee Chair White asked Mr. Murphy how much is being asked for from the City. <br />Mr. Murphy stated he was going to ask that himself. We had an estimate back on September 2 nd <br />� <br />2016 and that was a little over $2 million. We have to find out if that still is what the request is. <br />Mr. Agostino stated we are waiting on some financial advisor numbers to give us hard numbers <br />we need. The estimates range from $2.1 million to $2.4 million from the City of South Bend. <br />The County has $3.4 to $3.8 million. <br />